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December 8, 2025 18 mins

A listener is upset after her kid was kicked out of daycare for cursing around other kids.

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I think what happened was you got bigger and we
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(01:28):
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Speaker 1 (01:28):
You don't really have to stand. He took that, Shelley stand.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm the sand it says, Kekey.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Tell me if I'm wrong for wanting to sue my
son's daycare after they kicked him out. My son Liam
was expelled because of the staff.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Claiming that he was randomly yelling F bombs.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
I kept sending me notes about his inappropriate language, and
I told them clearly that I raised my kids to
express themselves and that yes, I allow swearing if it's
used in the right context.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
After that, I was just kid, I mean daycare. So
we're talking like three or four.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, he's five. I could feel the judgment.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
They even started filming him and sending me videos as proof,
which I felt was completely passive aggressive, so I ignored it.
Then last week they officially terminated his enrollment, saying that
other parents complained that he was a bad influence. I
called total bs. I'm seriously considering calling my attorney, and
I've already had my friends leave bad reviews.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I've been holding on to this little nugget for a while,
and we'll probably revisit this this week. But I have
a little little audio to go along with this, really,
because I think we would have the same problem if
little gi Oh, if little went to daycare.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Learned a new word, oh boy, oh.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Man, oh not nice, learned a new word you're not
supposed to do that, Yep. I don't know that, Kiki,

(03:16):
a five year old, Judge, Kiki. I don't know if
a five year old's able to discern when you can
and can't use those words. So I think we got
to go with not using those words until we know
when the time.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
And the place is right.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
And even if they can figure out the right way
to use those words, because my nephew sure knows how
to use them, they should not be doing it at
daycare like I understand everybody has a different type of
parenting strategy whatever, but like, this is a society, Okay,
you can't have your kids just shouting f bombs at
daycare and now the other kids are singing along like

(03:49):
lady and then you you you are so wrong in
my opinion, because you had your friends go leave negative reviews.
Their kids don't even attend this daycare. You know, like
you're trying to take this business down because your kids
is disrupting the class.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah. I don't think this is a matter of them
being a bad daycare.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
No.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I think it's a matter of you letting your kid
at age five do things that at age five we
don't know that there is a time and a place
to do tho. Like, if you want to let your
five year old cuss, fine, right, but then they got
to know that then they can't just do it anywhere
because other kids will learn and it's just you know,
it's disruptive and offensive to some. So I don't know
if they're older and they know like, all right, fine,

(04:24):
I can cuss it home around mom and dad, but
I can't cuss at school.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well fine, but you're not old enough to know that.
Then that's what I say.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I mean, I think about me. I would love to
just curse.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
All morning, you know, curse, and I think it's very good.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I think.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Feel so good sometimes.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
But I can't get up here and just do that,
you know, in the morning, Like I have to watch
my words.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
You have to see your children the same thing, like
come on.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Man, oh yeah, we have we have filthy mouths here.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
What would surprise a lot of people is how much
Showbi Shelley Cusses.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Should love it?

Speaker 7 (05:01):
Yes, I love it.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
It's an F bomb dropper. Yeah, man, like it's nothing
and uh, I love I love it too.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
And I remember growing up, you know, teachers used to
say when you were young that if you you only
use those words if you didn't know a better word,
like if you weren't smart enough to know what else? No, no, no,
I know a lot of words, guys. I choose those
words because they do feel good to say. But I'm
also in a grown ass man.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Absolutely, we save those words for the podcast. Everybody knows that.
You know, there's a time and a place, So I
don't know if daycare is the place for your kid
to just be shouting out swear words. I would love
to hear from the parents, especially the gentle parenting.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, you know, let me know about that. Eight five
three five.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
What do you do if the daycare is complaining that
your kid is using words that he or she shouldn't
be using. I mean, I think it's pretty obvious, like you,
you simply can't let your kids do stuff until they
know how to moderate their behavior.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
So I have two kids in daycare, and from what
I think I've heard, they both make But I've heard
stories not just like swearing, but like if there's a
kid like daycare is not a fit for every kid,
And I've heard parents say that, like they they enrolled
their kid and for whatever reason the kid had like
behavioral things they couldn't calm it out in classic And
I think the daycare has the right to say, like,

(06:15):
you're not a fit for us, so we can't. You know,
maybe it's beast because I don't know that I want
my kid anyway. If you're kicking me out, why would
I try to force my kid like me? It's just
not a fit. I the teachers. I wouldn't want my
kids working with those teachers. Then if they didn't want
me there, I got.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
Kicked out of dance class, and my mom had to
make her peace with that.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
No, it's because I told.

Speaker 8 (06:35):
The instructor I wanted to do my own thing, which
you know what, I understand that's gone into adulthood like
it's nothing true.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Sure, yeah, no, if you ever want to know me,
that's my origin story. But yeah, my mom is like,
all right, she doesn't want to follow out the teacher.
We got to take her out of the stamps class.

Speaker 9 (06:48):
Well.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
And the other thing is, okay, this kid doesn't know
how to moderate. The other kids don't know. They're the
same age. They don't know how to moderate. So then
they hear it, right, and then they start saying it,
and then they go home and say it, and then
the daycare looks in at because it's like, what are
they learning at this place?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
So the daycare is in a no win situation here
either because the kids are going to pick up on
what they see and hear from the other ones. Is
it ellie ell it's just el oll hi al good morning.
So Kiki's court, this kid is there, would I guess
no longer allowed to go to daycare?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
And they're writing bad reviews.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
The parents are writing bad reviews and then having other
people write bad reviews because they won't let the five
year old cuss in daycare.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
Yeah, this is ridiculous. So I know my son used
the F word like at three, learned it from me.
I've never censored myself around him necessarily, and he learned
how to use it. I told him he was not
allowed to use it round anyone else and and he
knew that, and he learned that, and so it was fine.

(07:51):
I mean, he wouldn't even do it, like when I
wanted to trick my friends and be like listen to
what Cole can say like F you, and he wouldn't
do it. So it's like, no, this mom is completely
and utterly wrong because now those other kids are learning
it and that's just not that's not good parenting.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
So how do you deal with it? L Like you
you saying held your kid.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, not be seven, but you're saying when he was
younger and even now, like it's you're not centering yourself.
So then how do you was he a you able
to teach him at a young age? Like hey, there
are places that you can say this in places that
you can't, or is this just that that's just the
risk you take because you're not gonna gonna hold back.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
I mean, I guess it's the risk you take. But
also he did learn right away, because I do remember
I was at a parent event he was in pre
K and they were all like, oh my god, did
you hear so and so learn the F word? And
I was like, oh my god. I was like, you guys,
it was my son. And they're like, they all looked
at me first of all to being crazy that I
admitted to it, but I was like, he knows that word.
It was him, and they were actually like, no, it wasn't.

(08:51):
It was actually this kid over here. And I was like, oh, okay,
I'm good. So I mean that would have been when
he was four years old. So yeah, I mean it's
possible if you have the right methods to teach your
kid what to do.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, okay, well, thank you, have a good day.

Speaker 6 (09:05):
Thank you too.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Glad you called Nicole. Good morning, Welcome to the friend Shielle.
How are you.

Speaker 10 (09:10):
Right doing good?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
How are you guys doing great? Thanks for listening. So
what do you think you hear Kiki's chord?

Speaker 10 (09:15):
So I totally agree with there's I'm in a place
if you want to allow your kid to do that,
that's your prerogative. We have a three year old who's
in day Carrie. He's granted, not the one necessarily swearing,
but he is picking up on some of the language
and the arguing, whether it's from other kids or even
like teachers. So my perspective is kind of like you
can only control what you can control. So we're trying

(09:36):
to teach our toddler like these aren't nice words. You
don't say these words kind of honestly, like Fred, what
your teacher woulday growing up in school, Like if you
can't think of a better word, don't say that word.
Try to think of other words or expressing it a
different way. But I mean, it's going to happen, unfortunately,
So we just got to kind of deal with it
with our own kids.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, all right, thank you, Nicole.

Speaker 8 (09:58):
Yeah, we well, I want to know why five year
old's in daycare, Like isn't a kidergarten time? And my
kind bless him. Maybe it's a blessing it's time to
go to kindergarten. And then also five years old versus
two and three is so different, like even though they're
still young, like that is a huge different and like
developmentally and all that, you know what I'm saying. So
I feel like five year old should know a little better.

(10:18):
I'm not saying he's going to know everything coming. He's
a kid, he's five.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
My niece Polly's almost five, and she would know the
difference between a word she can and can't say, like
at that point, if she said the words, she made
the choice to say the word.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Like this kid is obviously using it in the right context,
like his mom is teaching.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
And good on him, because if you're going to use
the profane words, were using him correct? Right?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, yeah, but I think in five you know that
you should be able to say you should be able
to teach your kid, like if you insist on allowing
them to say that stuff, then only here and not there.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
He's clearly teaching the other kids at this time.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, she knows right from wrong. Yeah, absolutely, Hay Amber, Yes,
good morning. This story resonates with you. You were the parent.

Speaker 9 (11:02):
I was a parent. I unfortunately was my son. He's
he's now six and a half. But a couple of
years back, when he was in pre school, he overheard
me and my husband talking and I did drop an
F bomb because I tried to be you know, like
conscientious about what I'm talking about and what I'm talking
about with so she was my young children there, he
will ever heard me, and he went to school the

(11:22):
next day didn't even know he heard me, you know,
drop it. Went to school the next day. Apparently he
was dropping it quite a bit, and the school when
I went to go pick him up, the school had
to pull me aside and was like, hey, we noticed
a new vocabulary word in your son's vocabulary. And here
I'm thinking like, oh, maybe you know learned, you know,
I'm thinking he's like, oh, you know he learned something new,

(11:43):
you know. No, it was just just truly the F bomb.
And I sat there, my face turned right as a tomato,
and I'm like, oh my god, I am so sorry.
And you know, they they you know, they try to
do what they you know, redirecting and what have you.
And he continued that behavior for probably about another week
or two, and so he kind of just learned like, hey,
I can't do that. So you know, we tried our

(12:05):
best with redirecting, you know, because he was only three
at the time, so you know, there's only so much
discipline you can do with a three year old because
they don't really gress, you know, gress that concept. But yeah,
he continues to behavior for about a week or two
and then he kind of fortunately he stopped. Was that parent.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Remember kids cuss it's funny, and so like you got
to not laugh because if you laugh and then they
think they made you happy, they're going to keep doing it.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
You gotta be like, that's not it's.

Speaker 9 (12:33):
So funny yep, and then that only instills it more
and does that they think, oh, hey, this is a
good time. I'm making my mom and dad happier. You know,
they think it's funny, and so you know, they laugh.
I have three kids, and so you know, I every
everyone I've had, I've learned what to do and what
not to do, and he by far was the one
that gave me a run for my money. He's the

(12:53):
middle one, so the middle one. Definitely. Yeah, he's definitely
And even now at six and a half, he's still
I still have to look at him sideways like what.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Just came out of your mind?

Speaker 9 (13:03):
Because he's that's the funniest, most ridiculous things. But yeah,
definitely was at a parent. I can definitely tell you
I don't think a five year old. I mean, I'm
no expert in development, but they do have a bit
of a background in it. No child at the right
age of five has any type of awareness as to
win appropriate time, as to use a cost word to shoot,
but are still barely learning how to Michael potty.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
But I mean, I'm not a parent, but I still
I do think at that age that they might make
the mistake a couple of times, but I do think
that they know the choice and they and if you
teach them then they I think they can grasp that
at that age. So yeah, but the mom's totally in
the wrong here, and I gotta go have.

Speaker 9 (13:41):
A good day for sure, you too, Thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (13:44):
Just have a great one.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, this is not the daycare swelt.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
No, ladies, stop stop having your friends leave reviews like
come on, man, you're messing up their business and their
scores online over this little situation. Like you you need
to keep your kid at home. Honestly, I saw one
of the reviews. It was what is him, Gabriel? What's
your name?

Speaker 7 (14:01):
Now?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I want me it's your picture? But what's what's your burners? Oh?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
That was in my past and her name was Victoria.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's right, it was Victoria.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, Ki made she had she had a burner that
she liked to give negative reviews on. The problem was
it was your picture. So that was part of the
issue with that.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Kelsey, Hi brid How are you hi, Kelsey? Good morning?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
So Kicky's Court if you're just tuning in, A five
year old kid is at daycare cussing up a storm
and the daycare kicked him out finally because like, you
can't be doing this, and the mom now is matter
daycare writing nasty reviews, having her friends right with nasty reviews.

Speaker 10 (14:32):
The mom's in the wrong here though, right, I think
the mom's in the wrong.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
Because of the fact that a five year old, if
you feel like your five year old can make a
decision at that point where their brain is at to
decide whether it's a good time to swear or not,
I just don't think they're ready. Yeah, I don't think
a five year old's ready. And then if you expose
the other children to that, you can't really blame the
other parents, right for being like, hey, I don't want

(14:58):
my kid to start swearing too, And you know what,
in your home, in your own car, cool go for
it that if your kid, raise them the way that
you want to. But also having people do bad reviews
for that. I don't think this daycare had a choice.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I agree with you. I agree. Thank you have a
good day.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Fred.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
Have it come when you guys are awesome?

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, Kiki, that's what I have to I always have
to go Kiki, Yeah, all the time.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Every day. I'm my God. One more time, I don't
say that.

Speaker 8 (15:32):
You can say, oh, man, Jesus, she knows.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
That's right, not nice, not nice, that's funny. She's laughing
at herself saying it.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, she knows.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
She knows better because you you probably were struggling to
keep a straight face.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Right.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
I laugh every time, and she knows it. She knows it.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's my own fault, kicked out of daycare. Just sign
you next time, Blina. Honestly, something's got a.

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