August 11, 2025 • 20 mins
A listener wants to know if she's in the wrong after confronting her child's bully!
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a fresh show. It's Kiki's Court. All rise, the honorable
(00:45):
Kikili Judge Kiki take it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Away, all right, let's get into the courtroom. The gabble
has been hit. It says Kiki, am I wrong for
telling a mom her daughter deserved to be left out
because she's a bully. My daughter's been relentlessly bullied at
school well and in her summer gymnastics league by my
neighbor's daughter. The kid is a terrorist from name calling,
physical attacks.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
The works. But my kid has come home crying multiple times.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So I've talked to her parents, who always make excuses,
and the school I've talked to them too, but nothing changes.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I finally told my daughter she.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Can defend herself if needed, and for her birthday, I
bought shriek bags and party invites for her gymnastics class.
I brought them for everyone except for the bully. At
the end of the class, I told everyone to stay.
Then when the bully approached me and her mom, I said, oh,
you two can leave.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
This isn't for your kid.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Her mom exploded, calling my kid a punk, and then
stormed out. The instructor lectured me on fairness, but I
think it's time that the bully feels what she dishes out.
Some parents say I cross the line, but I want
you guys to tell me am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I know I need.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I need the jury away in because I know I'm
going to be off on this one because.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I grew up.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Are you though you up in a house where it
was like nown't come in here crying about no bully.
If somebody is bullying you, you need to meet them
where they're at, and I'll leave it at that, and
then you come back and tell me how you met
them where they at and that's it. You know, it
was very much go handle your bully, and she handled this.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And I know that bullying has gone to a different
level now we've talked about this before with social media
and all. You know, it's just like it's never ending
as where when we were younger, there was less of
that and it was more just you know, you had
to deal with them one on one at school, on
the playground, whatever it was. At the same time, though,
you know that aside, I also think you can't ignore
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all bullying because then your kids grow up and they
into adults to get bullied by other adults because it
happens all the time as grown ups and they're not
equipped to handle that. Like some amount of that you
have to learn how to deal with as a human being,
because people are not nice. Now people bullied. You know,
there are bullies all over the place, and you're not
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going to avoid them. So you can't just hide from
them or make them go away or quit your job
every time. So I get that, but I don't know,
what do you think. I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Brilliant and very petty to have, you know, you announced
to the entire gymnastics class.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Everybody stay back, everybody stay behind.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I have treats for all the children, and then you
line up all the kids and the right when this
little girl comes to the front of the line, you're like, oh, honey,
not you. You know you could go bye. That was
slow down, that was but it was kind of brilliant.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, but it's like, is there a different way to
handle it, you know, like I mean, not ignore it
by any means, but like all the kids get treated
the same, and then you handle it with the parent
maybe if it's like way out of control, because I mean,
every every parent listening now is like, row, ray, I
want to beat up the kid that is mean to
my kid. But it's same time, you know, returning fire
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in the same way. Is that is that really right?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Because I don't think to beat a bully, you don't
become a bully, right, You don't become a bully, but
you do confront a bully.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Yeah, I think there's a parenting crisis right now happening
where people aren't, you know, really teaching their children certain things.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And that's just my hot take.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
I do feel that if your child is a bully,
I think that's something that you and you when you're
a parent, you who know your child's the bully, like,
don't play with me like you didn't, you know, And
as a parent, I think that's something that you need
to step in on, Like I would never allow my
daughter to ever bully another child. I've seen my best
friend get bullied, you know, growing up, Like I don't
like that. I ride for that hard, and that's something
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that I don't I think that we're not doing a
good job. We're throwing iPads at kids and letting them
say what they want, to do what they want actuss
social media. Like you mentioned Fred, things are different now
when it comes to bullying. When we're a kid, what
like you took.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
My lunch money?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But the parent calling the kid a punk, the parents,
that tells you where it's coming. That tells you there's
no account of ability.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And again it starts at home.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
So I'm really big on that, and I don't know,
like I wouldn't want my kids bully at the birthday
party either. Now the parents need to figure this out
and not name calic you said, don't do any of that.
I think there's ways to handle it. It's just it's
not with the kids like it's between the adults at
that point. That's my opinion.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Hey Joe, yes, all right, you guys are the jury
eight flash five five nine one one o three five?
What do you what say you?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I say you that she did the right thing. M okay,
my daughter, My daughter was bullied for a little while,
and we kind of did the same thing, me and
my wife. We we kind of brushed it on the rug. Oh,
it's not a big deal. It's your friends. You guys
are girls. You'll be friends again in a week. It'll
be over with. But it didn't. And we told her
to stand up for herself, and when she did, they
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started to back off and the parents got concerned. And
we hadn't mentioned to the parents that listen, we've brought
this to your attention multiple times, even to the school.
Like I even told my daughter, like I will deal
with the school, don't worry about it. And I had
a long conversation with the principal. But I had to
explain to our daughter that you know, if you let
this happen now, it's going to continue to happen and
(06:12):
all through high school and and everything, and you have
to just put it in the button. I don't go
pull off, you know, beating her up and assaulting her
and stuff. But you know, at the same time, you
have to defend yourself and stand your ground because you know,
even in middle school it can get worse.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, true, Yeah, I mean we Yeah, it's tricky because
I mean I want to say, as far as the
kids are concerned, killing with kindness almost as if the
bullying doesn't matter, Like you don't really have a voice,
you're not really influencing my decisions. But at the same
time it is and you wanted to stop, but then
the retaliation bullying, what does that accomplish. I mean, I'm
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not saying yeah, no, I'm saying this. I'm not saying no,
but that's what this that's what they did the mom
and that that's what they did.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, I mean it feels and I guess I can
understand where they're coming from, right, because if you try
multiple things and you have tied them with kindness, kill
them with kindness, before and it doesn't work. I mean,
you know, we don't know what kind of bullying was
going on, whether it was physical, whether it was social
media media type bulliant. You know, there's so much now.
For we were kids, it was just you got picked
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on and that was it. There's so much type of
bullying now that it mentally, I literally see it every
day mentally affect people that they probably said, we can't
do this anymore. Let's do this instead of doing something physical,
Let's start with this and see if this works. Yeah,
before they resulted in you know, the child hitting them
and then them sticking up to themselves and hitting them back.
(07:43):
Maybe it's let's not invite them to the party so
they can kind of get a little taste of how
it feels. And maybe that right there will change their attitude.
But I don't think it did.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Hi, Joe, thank you. Have a good day you as well.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Glad you called hey Rico. Yeah, hey, I'm going on Rico.
Hey man, So you were you were the bully? I was, Yeah,
I was. I regret it. I regret it one hundred
times fold, really I do.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
And no, and then like I don't know, one day,
I don't know, I started defending one of one of
the people that I was making fun of, and I
was like, I kind of beat them up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I got spunded from the bus. Uh how do you
kind of beat up a little bit? I'm just kidding.
How do you kind of beat them up? But anyway,
you know, just like I don't know, just I just
read him up a little bit. Yeah, okay, it a
little bit. But then how do you switch side? So
you saw the light?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I did it?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
And and and now that I look back on it,
I'm like, I regret that one hundred times fold. And
I'm just like, these people aren't aren't they're They're not geeks.
They're they're they're really cool people. Ye you know, Yes
I was no.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
And then well the thing is, so the thing is
I actually became one of them.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
I became a geek.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I wasn't in the band.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Also, I was a bank.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
One day, one day, up a little bit the next day.
You're the you're the guy right right right? But hey,
you saw your you saw that it wasn't right, and
that's that's good. Good for you, man, Hey have a
good day. Yes, oh yeah, I love you.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, no, thank you. You can continue with the compliments.
But I know he saw the light, he saw the
other side, because you know, I mean, you're growing up
and people bully you, and you'll come home and your
parents will be like, you know, that says more about
them than it is it's about you. And you know,
I don't know all these all these cliche things that
may be true, they don't help at the time, but
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the fact is this is going to be present your
whole life.
Speaker 9 (09:52):
It is.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I mean, to this day, we all still deal with bullies,
people who think they're more important than they are, people
who you know, say mean things and then hide whatever
is it's it's it's never going to end, so you
have to be equipped to deal with it. In some regard,
I would agree it's worse now than it's ever been,
because it's it's it's relentless, you know, from all different angles,
and you can hide behind screen names and accounts and whatever.
(10:16):
But I don't know that my parents ever would have
My parents definitely there were kids they didn't like, and
and you know I knew that, but I don't know
that they were going to treat the kids that way,
because what message does that send right? I mean, it's
it's retaliation bullying essentially. I don't know. I mean there
are parents listening. Now, I'm sure going good good for
that mom, But then would you really do that? I'm
(10:38):
not sure. Stacey, Hi hi Hi? So are you a parent?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I am, okay? So would you would you retaliate on
a bully, Like if your son or daughter came home and,
like in this case, it said this person is being
mean to me, would you then get involved?
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Yes? Well that's why I actually give the parents a
round of appause for calling out the blue because the
parents these days with the generation, don't teach their kids
any type of respect. And if you want to live
in this society, you got to have some kind of
you know, thank you, please, and all.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That other stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
But what are you teaching, Stacey If everybody gets a
treat except for the one kid, You know, what are
you saying essentially? I mean you're saying that it's okay to.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
We're being a bully.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
If you want to live in the society, then have
some type of mental stability to let you be in
the society with everybody else, because nowadays, with people like that,
you don't want to bring them in your thing, though,
not knowing if they don't have any type of mental issues,
and if they're going to come and shoot up.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Your party, well that's.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Where it ends up leaving, because that's where it ends
up leading too, because they want to start saying that
they get depressed because people leave them out because they're
being bullies, you know. And then when they start being
the and they started taking about harming yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Okay, all right, Stacy, well thank you, have a good day.
I mean, my dad took a turn.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
And turned into an episode of a mess.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I don't know though, see I guess from my perspective,
as as somebody who I don't know, not everybody. I
was kind of middle of the road. I mean, there
were people that made fun of me because I was
obsessed with radio and said it would never happen, and
I don't know, you're you're a dork for that, and
then there were people that were nice to me. I
I was right in the middle. But I guess at
the time my parents retaliating wouldn't have helped a whole
(12:32):
lot of If anything, their message was not killing with kindness,
which is easy to say, but it's almost like by
by not giving her a treat or not giving her
not including her in with the rest of the group,
you're essentially saying you're on you got under my skin,
I don't like you, and and and I'm you affected me,
And I think to a certain extent, if you can
learn to rise above it, It's almost like here with
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a smile, everybody knows the person who's mean to you,
and you're still kind to them even though you don't
like them. And I know that it's so crushing inside
for the person who you're still nice to even when
they're mean to you, and I think there's something to
be It's almost like I'm teaching you that that person's
words don't matter and that you'll just continue to give
good energy. But if I don't know, if my mom
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comes down there and solves my problems for me, what
is that? What am I learning from that?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I think you're sending the wrong message.
Speaker 9 (13:23):
Though.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
If I'm inviting the bully to my birthday party or
my kids' birthday party, like I'm rewarding your behavior at
that point, because what everybody gets to come over, it
gets a trophy. I personally don't like that children take
their lives for this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I don't play like.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
This was this was like at a class, wasn't it
like everybody was there?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, they were in gymnastics class.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah. I think you're more than welcome to have a
party and not invite everybody. I think that's fine. I'm
not going to invite the bully to my house. No,
but if it's in front of everybody, I don't know.
I feel like that's probably the message, is what you know?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
What is getting me though, the mom of the bully,
Like you had the audacity and the nerve to get
in line and get a treat bag, and you know
that your child is a bully. You know, I've confronted
you about it before, So like, bad on you to
get in line thinking your kid deserves something when you
know your kid is a bully.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, we all know what. We all know where it's
coming from them.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
The lack of awareness means that the parent is instilling
this and the kids exactly, Hey Lena, you're okay with this,
and you're a school counselor.
Speaker 10 (14:16):
Oh yes, yes, yes I am. And the reason why
I say that is because the kids nowadays are an
entirely different breed. I've been doing this for over six
years now, and I can see the change in the
way the kids interact with each other. And you know,
I feel like it it gives the bully, you know,
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because when a kid is being bullied and you know
they're the ones that are doing the bullying, they have
that sense of power. But I almost feel like what
the mom did just kind of help knock that child
down a little bit and maybe hopefully in the future
they won't continue to do the same behavior.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah. No, I see both sides of this. I mean,
I know what I would want to do as a parent,
and I want to kick the little kids ass. Yeah,
at the same time that I have to think, like, Okay,
what what is the lesson I'm teaching? What am I
instilling in my kid? Am I saying that I'll just
I'll be there for every every difficult situation that my
kids in and I'll fix it because I won't be
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you know. And again, it's not like this was in
front of everybody. This was It wasn't as though this
was at my house and that we were required to
invite a kid. No, we weren't. Like this was in
a thing that we're all involved with together, and one
of the kids is a little jerk, and I feel
like there's always going to be a little.
Speaker 11 (15:28):
Jerk for sure.
Speaker 10 (15:30):
Yeah, I definitely I can see both sides one. But
I don't know, I feel like the Mama Bear and
me definitely would have been like, okay, no, we need
to take you down a little bit. But I do
think that, you know, I have a feeling that they're
not going to have any issues with that kid anymore though,
and hopefully, you know, yeah, things will get better.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I hope so too. Thank you, Lena. All Right,
have a good day. I'm glad you called. Hey, Michelle,
Well Kicki's court. So basically, it's it's a bullying situation
in a gymnastics class and there was a party of
some kind and the kid being bullied gave that little
treats to everybody except the and the mom, except for
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the kid who was the bully, And then the bully's
mom got involved in it was sort of this tussle
we I mean, what do you think.
Speaker 11 (16:24):
I mean as somebody that I saw a bullying around me,
I guess I just have a question about the other
people that witnessed it. Bullying usually doesn't happen on nine
closed doors. It happened in front of other people, in
front of coaches, in front of other kids. Like, it
also comes down to the people that witnessed it. How
is that not complacency? So I guess it just comes down.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
To I guess.
Speaker 11 (16:50):
Yes, I think it could have been helpful because it
puts the bully in the place. But it's it's kind
of chicken or the egg. Which one comes first? Comes
down to. What about the community around that watched it happen?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
The mom says she's spoken to everyone, the school administrator,
she went to the parents, and nobody's taking her please seriously,
So she's.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Like, okay, I'll take matters into my own hands.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah yeah. Teammates so yeah, one of the other kids
that are standing.
Speaker 11 (17:20):
Up to those that were being bullied around me?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, this seems like young kids. Yeah, and the gymnastics.
I don't know. I wouldn't put the the responsibility on
the other kids. I've already approached the parents and the
adults in the situation.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you, Michelle, have a good day.
Speaker 11 (17:37):
Thanks you too.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Uh. I want to say, Antonio, hey, go ahead, how
you doing and tell you don't agree with me, I
gotta go. Sorry, have a nice day, Thanks for calling. No,
what do you want to say?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I get where you're going with it.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
I'm a parent of three, and I don't want to
call it revenge bullying because it's really hard to get
kids to stand up for themselves when it's life not
naturally in them. As she mentioned, it's something that's happened
at school, it's happened at gymnastic, and it's became physical.
Most people would have been lost it at that point,
and even me personally, I'm a challenge to parent at
that point. I need to see what's going on and
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if you're not going to correct your child, I'm going
to correct your child.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
And I thought that was.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Very gentle, a very gentle response, and for it, that's
the Fox move.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Baby, You out smarter them.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
You don't get physical, You're out smarter them.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
That's a Fox move.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Well, but I agree with you that, like, let's have
the conversation among parents, and as hard as it is
to do and as much as I don't necessarily always
do this in my life and would like to, the
killing with kindest thing is the move because what you're
saying to the bully kid or adult is that you
are not getting under my skin, Like I'm going to
continue to be nice to you because we're not, and
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it's hard to do. But like if I still give
you this pressent like everybody else or whatever, it's just
like at what point do they get bored and move
on to somebody else and then.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
And attacking more antagonize them. It's just more you don't
deserve to be there. And we have a writer's people,
especially as the mom said, I know that she went
a little off the richter with the school shooting, but
that happens. I've been in a situation where my kid
was at a school and this kid like that, that's
nothing nobody wants to ever be a part of. We
don't know where it starts, so we have to be
(19:22):
proactive and not reactive in them situations. And I'll still
you get stressed anxiety, like to be around somebody who
treats mistreats you. That's a very uncomfortable situation for an adult.
That's crazy off the chart for a kid. And like
I say, I agree with what you're saying as far
as like we don't want that to be Teddy hypocritical.
It can't get that's a fine line. So I agree
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with what you're saying. But I thought, as a dad,
that was gentle because I don't have that in me
like that, so I thought that was really clever, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, No, see, I know what I'd like to do.
I just would hope I wouldn't do it. Man, tell you,
everyone knows what you do. You smile to their face,
and you get online with a fake screen name and
you say that you know the mom's got drugs in
her house. Call the cops, get the docs, and we
get the swat team out there. Everybody knows what That's
how you handle it.
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(00:45):
Kikili Judge Kiki take it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Away, all right, let's get into the courtroom. The gabble
has been hit. It says Kiki, am I wrong for
telling a mom her daughter deserved to be left out
because she's a bully. My daughter's been relentlessly bullied at
school well and in her summer gymnastics league by my
neighbor's daughter. The kid is a terrorist from name calling,
physical attacks.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
The works. But my kid has come home crying multiple times.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So I've talked to her parents, who always make excuses,
and the school I've talked to them too, but nothing changes.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I finally told my daughter she.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Can defend herself if needed, and for her birthday, I
bought shriek bags and party invites for her gymnastics class.
I brought them for everyone except for the bully. At
the end of the class, I told everyone to stay.
Then when the bully approached me and her mom, I said, oh,
you two can leave.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
This isn't for your kid.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Her mom exploded, calling my kid a punk, and then
stormed out. The instructor lectured me on fairness, but I
think it's time that the bully feels what she dishes out.
Some parents say I cross the line, but I want
you guys to tell me am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I know I need.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I need the jury away in because I know I'm
going to be off on this one because.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I grew up.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Are you though you up in a house where it
was like nown't come in here crying about no bully.
If somebody is bullying you, you need to meet them
where they're at, and I'll leave it at that, and
then you come back and tell me how you met
them where they at and that's it. You know, it
was very much go handle your bully, and she handled this.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And I know that bullying has gone to a different
level now we've talked about this before with social media
and all. You know, it's just like it's never ending
as where when we were younger, there was less of
that and it was more just you know, you had
to deal with them one on one at school, on
the playground, whatever it was. At the same time, though,
you know that aside, I also think you can't ignore
(02:47):
all bullying because then your kids grow up and they
into adults to get bullied by other adults because it
happens all the time as grown ups and they're not
equipped to handle that. Like some amount of that you
have to learn how to deal with as a human being,
because people are not nice. Now people bullied. You know,
there are bullies all over the place, and you're not
(03:08):
going to avoid them. So you can't just hide from
them or make them go away or quit your job
every time. So I get that, but I don't know,
what do you think. I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Brilliant and very petty to have, you know, you announced
to the entire gymnastics class.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Everybody stay back, everybody stay behind.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I have treats for all the children, and then you
line up all the kids and the right when this
little girl comes to the front of the line, you're like, oh, honey,
not you. You know you could go bye. That was
slow down, that was but it was kind of brilliant.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, but it's like, is there a different way to
handle it, you know, like I mean, not ignore it
by any means, but like all the kids get treated
the same, and then you handle it with the parent
maybe if it's like way out of control, because I mean,
every every parent listening now is like, row, ray, I
want to beat up the kid that is mean to
my kid. But it's same time, you know, returning fire
(04:03):
in the same way. Is that is that really right?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Because I don't think to beat a bully, you don't
become a bully, right, You don't become a bully, but
you do confront a bully.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Yeah, I think there's a parenting crisis right now happening
where people aren't, you know, really teaching their children certain things.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And that's just my hot take.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
I do feel that if your child is a bully,
I think that's something that you and you when you're
a parent, you who know your child's the bully, like,
don't play with me like you didn't, you know, And
as a parent, I think that's something that you need
to step in on, Like I would never allow my
daughter to ever bully another child. I've seen my best
friend get bullied, you know, growing up, Like I don't
like that. I ride for that hard, and that's something
(04:45):
that I don't I think that we're not doing a
good job. We're throwing iPads at kids and letting them
say what they want, to do what they want actuss
social media. Like you mentioned Fred, things are different now
when it comes to bullying. When we're a kid, what
like you took.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
My lunch money?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But the parent calling the kid a punk, the parents,
that tells you where it's coming. That tells you there's
no account of ability.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And again it starts at home.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
So I'm really big on that, and I don't know,
like I wouldn't want my kids bully at the birthday
party either. Now the parents need to figure this out
and not name calic you said, don't do any of that.
I think there's ways to handle it. It's just it's
not with the kids like it's between the adults at
that point. That's my opinion.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Hey Joe, yes, all right, you guys are the jury
eight flash five five nine one one o three five?
What do you what say you?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I say you that she did the right thing. M okay,
my daughter, My daughter was bullied for a little while,
and we kind of did the same thing, me and
my wife. We we kind of brushed it on the rug. Oh,
it's not a big deal. It's your friends. You guys
are girls. You'll be friends again in a week. It'll
be over with. But it didn't. And we told her
to stand up for herself, and when she did, they
(05:51):
started to back off and the parents got concerned. And
we hadn't mentioned to the parents that listen, we've brought
this to your attention multiple times, even to the school.
Like I even told my daughter, like I will deal
with the school, don't worry about it. And I had
a long conversation with the principal. But I had to
explain to our daughter that you know, if you let
this happen now, it's going to continue to happen and
(06:12):
all through high school and and everything, and you have
to just put it in the button. I don't go
pull off, you know, beating her up and assaulting her
and stuff. But you know, at the same time, you
have to defend yourself and stand your ground because you know,
even in middle school it can get worse.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, true, Yeah, I mean we Yeah, it's tricky because
I mean I want to say, as far as the
kids are concerned, killing with kindness almost as if the
bullying doesn't matter, Like you don't really have a voice,
you're not really influencing my decisions. But at the same
time it is and you wanted to stop, but then
the retaliation bullying, what does that accomplish. I mean, I'm
(06:52):
not saying yeah, no, I'm saying this. I'm not saying no,
but that's what this that's what they did the mom
and that that's what they did.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, I mean it feels and I guess I can
understand where they're coming from, right, because if you try
multiple things and you have tied them with kindness, kill
them with kindness, before and it doesn't work. I mean,
you know, we don't know what kind of bullying was
going on, whether it was physical, whether it was social
media media type bulliant. You know, there's so much now.
For we were kids, it was just you got picked
(07:22):
on and that was it. There's so much type of
bullying now that it mentally, I literally see it every
day mentally affect people that they probably said, we can't
do this anymore. Let's do this instead of doing something physical,
Let's start with this and see if this works. Yeah,
before they resulted in you know, the child hitting them
and then them sticking up to themselves and hitting them back.
(07:43):
Maybe it's let's not invite them to the party so
they can kind of get a little taste of how
it feels. And maybe that right there will change their attitude.
But I don't think it did.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Hi, Joe, thank you. Have a good day you as well.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Glad you called hey Rico. Yeah, hey, I'm going on Rico.
Hey man, So you were you were the bully? I was, Yeah,
I was. I regret it. I regret it one hundred
times fold, really I do.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
And no, and then like I don't know, one day,
I don't know, I started defending one of one of
the people that I was making fun of, and I
was like, I kind of beat them up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I got spunded from the bus. Uh how do you
kind of beat up a little bit? I'm just kidding.
How do you kind of beat them up? But anyway,
you know, just like I don't know, just I just
read him up a little bit. Yeah, okay, it a
little bit. But then how do you switch side? So
you saw the light?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I did it?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
And and and now that I look back on it,
I'm like, I regret that one hundred times fold. And
I'm just like, these people aren't aren't they're They're not geeks.
They're they're they're really cool people. Ye you know, Yes
I was no.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
And then well the thing is, so the thing is
I actually became one of them.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
I became a geek.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I wasn't in the band.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Also, I was a bank.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
One day, one day, up a little bit the next day.
You're the you're the guy right right right? But hey,
you saw your you saw that it wasn't right, and
that's that's good. Good for you, man, Hey have a
good day. Yes, oh yeah, I love you.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, no, thank you. You can continue with the compliments.
But I know he saw the light, he saw the
other side, because you know, I mean, you're growing up
and people bully you, and you'll come home and your
parents will be like, you know, that says more about
them than it is it's about you. And you know,
I don't know all these all these cliche things that
may be true, they don't help at the time, but
(09:49):
the fact is this is going to be present your
whole life.
Speaker 9 (09:52):
It is.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I mean, to this day, we all still deal with bullies,
people who think they're more important than they are, people
who you know, say mean things and then hide whatever
is it's it's it's never going to end, so you
have to be equipped to deal with it. In some regard,
I would agree it's worse now than it's ever been,
because it's it's it's relentless, you know, from all different angles,
and you can hide behind screen names and accounts and whatever.
(10:16):
But I don't know that my parents ever would have
My parents definitely there were kids they didn't like, and
and you know I knew that, but I don't know
that they were going to treat the kids that way,
because what message does that send right? I mean, it's
it's retaliation bullying essentially. I don't know. I mean there
are parents listening. Now, I'm sure going good good for
that mom, But then would you really do that? I'm
(10:38):
not sure. Stacey, Hi hi Hi? So are you a parent?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I am, okay? So would you would you retaliate on
a bully, Like if your son or daughter came home and,
like in this case, it said this person is being
mean to me, would you then get involved?
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Yes? Well that's why I actually give the parents a
round of appause for calling out the blue because the
parents these days with the generation, don't teach their kids
any type of respect. And if you want to live
in this society, you got to have some kind of
you know, thank you, please, and all.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That other stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
But what are you teaching, Stacey If everybody gets a
treat except for the one kid, You know, what are
you saying essentially? I mean you're saying that it's okay to.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
We're being a bully.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
If you want to live in the society, then have
some type of mental stability to let you be in
the society with everybody else, because nowadays, with people like that,
you don't want to bring them in your thing, though,
not knowing if they don't have any type of mental issues,
and if they're going to come and shoot up.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Your party, well that's.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Where it ends up leaving, because that's where it ends
up leading too, because they want to start saying that
they get depressed because people leave them out because they're
being bullies, you know. And then when they start being
the and they started taking about harming yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Okay, all right, Stacy, well thank you, have a good day.
I mean, my dad took a turn.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
And turned into an episode of a mess.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I don't know though, see I guess from my perspective,
as as somebody who I don't know, not everybody. I
was kind of middle of the road. I mean, there
were people that made fun of me because I was
obsessed with radio and said it would never happen, and
I don't know, you're you're a dork for that, and
then there were people that were nice to me. I
I was right in the middle. But I guess at
the time my parents retaliating wouldn't have helped a whole
(12:32):
lot of If anything, their message was not killing with kindness,
which is easy to say, but it's almost like by
by not giving her a treat or not giving her
not including her in with the rest of the group,
you're essentially saying you're on you got under my skin,
I don't like you, and and and I'm you affected me,
And I think to a certain extent, if you can
learn to rise above it, It's almost like here with
(12:55):
a smile, everybody knows the person who's mean to you,
and you're still kind to them even though you don't
like them. And I know that it's so crushing inside
for the person who you're still nice to even when
they're mean to you, and I think there's something to
be It's almost like I'm teaching you that that person's
words don't matter and that you'll just continue to give
good energy. But if I don't know, if my mom
(13:17):
comes down there and solves my problems for me, what
is that? What am I learning from that?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I think you're sending the wrong message.
Speaker 9 (13:23):
Though.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
If I'm inviting the bully to my birthday party or
my kids' birthday party, like I'm rewarding your behavior at
that point, because what everybody gets to come over, it
gets a trophy. I personally don't like that children take
their lives for this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I don't play like.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
This was this was like at a class, wasn't it
like everybody was there?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, they were in gymnastics class.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah. I think you're more than welcome to have a
party and not invite everybody. I think that's fine. I'm
not going to invite the bully to my house. No,
but if it's in front of everybody, I don't know.
I feel like that's probably the message, is what you know?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
What is getting me though, the mom of the bully,
Like you had the audacity and the nerve to get
in line and get a treat bag, and you know
that your child is a bully. You know, I've confronted
you about it before, So like, bad on you to
get in line thinking your kid deserves something when you
know your kid is a bully.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, we all know what. We all know where it's
coming from them.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
The lack of awareness means that the parent is instilling
this and the kids exactly, Hey Lena, you're okay with this,
and you're a school counselor.
Speaker 10 (14:16):
Oh yes, yes, yes I am. And the reason why
I say that is because the kids nowadays are an
entirely different breed. I've been doing this for over six
years now, and I can see the change in the
way the kids interact with each other. And you know,
I feel like it it gives the bully, you know,
(14:37):
because when a kid is being bullied and you know
they're the ones that are doing the bullying, they have
that sense of power. But I almost feel like what
the mom did just kind of help knock that child
down a little bit and maybe hopefully in the future
they won't continue to do the same behavior.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah. No, I see both sides of this. I mean,
I know what I would want to do as a parent,
and I want to kick the little kids ass. Yeah,
at the same time that I have to think, like, Okay,
what what is the lesson I'm teaching? What am I
instilling in my kid? Am I saying that I'll just
I'll be there for every every difficult situation that my
kids in and I'll fix it because I won't be
(15:13):
you know. And again, it's not like this was in
front of everybody. This was It wasn't as though this
was at my house and that we were required to
invite a kid. No, we weren't. Like this was in
a thing that we're all involved with together, and one
of the kids is a little jerk, and I feel
like there's always going to be a little.
Speaker 11 (15:28):
Jerk for sure.
Speaker 10 (15:30):
Yeah, I definitely I can see both sides one. But
I don't know, I feel like the Mama Bear and
me definitely would have been like, okay, no, we need
to take you down a little bit. But I do
think that, you know, I have a feeling that they're
not going to have any issues with that kid anymore though,
and hopefully, you know, yeah, things will get better.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I hope so too. Thank you, Lena. All Right,
have a good day. I'm glad you called. Hey, Michelle,
Well Kicki's court. So basically, it's it's a bullying situation
in a gymnastics class and there was a party of
some kind and the kid being bullied gave that little
treats to everybody except the and the mom, except for
(16:15):
the kid who was the bully, And then the bully's
mom got involved in it was sort of this tussle
we I mean, what do you think.
Speaker 11 (16:24):
I mean as somebody that I saw a bullying around me,
I guess I just have a question about the other
people that witnessed it. Bullying usually doesn't happen on nine
closed doors. It happened in front of other people, in
front of coaches, in front of other kids. Like, it
also comes down to the people that witnessed it. How
is that not complacency? So I guess it just comes down.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
To I guess.
Speaker 11 (16:50):
Yes, I think it could have been helpful because it
puts the bully in the place. But it's it's kind
of chicken or the egg. Which one comes first? Comes
down to. What about the community around that watched it happen?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
The mom says she's spoken to everyone, the school administrator,
she went to the parents, and nobody's taking her please seriously,
So she's.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Like, okay, I'll take matters into my own hands.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah yeah. Teammates so yeah, one of the other kids
that are standing.
Speaker 11 (17:20):
Up to those that were being bullied around me?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, this seems like young kids. Yeah, and the gymnastics.
I don't know. I wouldn't put the the responsibility on
the other kids. I've already approached the parents and the
adults in the situation.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you, Michelle, have a good day.
Speaker 11 (17:37):
Thanks you too.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Uh. I want to say, Antonio, hey, go ahead, how
you doing and tell you don't agree with me, I
gotta go. Sorry, have a nice day, Thanks for calling. No,
what do you want to say?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I get where you're going with it.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
I'm a parent of three, and I don't want to
call it revenge bullying because it's really hard to get
kids to stand up for themselves when it's life not
naturally in them. As she mentioned, it's something that's happened
at school, it's happened at gymnastic, and it's became physical.
Most people would have been lost it at that point,
and even me personally, I'm a challenge to parent at
that point. I need to see what's going on and
(18:15):
if you're not going to correct your child, I'm going
to correct your child.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
And I thought that was.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Very gentle, a very gentle response, and for it, that's
the Fox move.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Baby, You out smarter them.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
You don't get physical, You're out smarter them.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
That's a Fox move.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Well, but I agree with you that, like, let's have
the conversation among parents, and as hard as it is
to do and as much as I don't necessarily always
do this in my life and would like to, the
killing with kindest thing is the move because what you're
saying to the bully kid or adult is that you
are not getting under my skin, Like I'm going to
continue to be nice to you because we're not, and
(18:50):
it's hard to do. But like if I still give
you this pressent like everybody else or whatever, it's just
like at what point do they get bored and move
on to somebody else and then.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
And attacking more antagonize them. It's just more you don't
deserve to be there. And we have a writer's people,
especially as the mom said, I know that she went
a little off the richter with the school shooting, but
that happens. I've been in a situation where my kid
was at a school and this kid like that, that's
nothing nobody wants to ever be a part of. We
don't know where it starts, so we have to be
(19:22):
proactive and not reactive in them situations. And I'll still
you get stressed anxiety, like to be around somebody who
treats mistreats you. That's a very uncomfortable situation for an adult.
That's crazy off the chart for a kid. And like
I say, I agree with what you're saying as far
as like we don't want that to be Teddy hypocritical.
It can't get that's a fine line. So I agree
(19:42):
with what you're saying. But I thought, as a dad,
that was gentle because I don't have that in me
like that, so I thought that was really clever, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, No, see, I know what I'd like to do.
I just would hope I wouldn't do it. Man, tell you,
everyone knows what you do. You smile to their face,
and you get online with a fake screen name and
you say that you know the mom's got drugs in
her house. Call the cops, get the docs, and we
get the swat team out there. Everybody knows what That's
how you handle it.
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