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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Up.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's a fresh show. It's Kiki's Court. It's all rise
yonnor Bull, kik a Leek, It's here. Take it away.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Those approved eclipse glasses.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Oh yeah, you already know I had. I was way
ahead of the game. I was planning for this eclipse
last year.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Do not look at the eclipse, h please don't do.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We would Stevie. Wasn't there going to be the same?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hey, we can see, okay, because you know what I
think about stevee.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
We can both see. Anyway, let's get it to the case.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
If you would like to send a case to Kiki Court,
you can hit me up on all socials that on
air Kiki, but this case, let's hit the gabble. It says, Hey, Keikey.
My name is Julie. I've been a salon owner for
over ten years, and I've never been in such a
bad place. A while ago, I hired a young lady
and gave her her first job in a salon. She
brought in several clients, and I was proud to see
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her growth until she got pregnant. After she had the baby,
she broke up with her boyfriend and became a singe
mom our relationship took a turn for the words when
she started bringing the baby into the salon. For weeks,
I would get calls from other stylists complaining about her
daughter being in the salon. Not only is the salon
not a safe space for children, but her daughter was
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a terror and would constantly cry and disturb other stylists
and clients. I finally told her that she would have
to find child care or I would be forced to
fire her.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, long story short, I had to let her go.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
She yelled at me and had all of her clients
leave negative reviews about my salon online, and she accused
me of not being accommodating to a young, struggling single mother.
Am I in ahole for doing what I thought was
best for my business?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Judge Kicky, what' say you? Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well, I do sympathize with single mothers and knew moms
and working moms, But girl, get that baby out of here.
Literally literally, I mean you, When you have a child,
your life changes. You have to make different sacrifices and
plans or your baby. It sounds like this salone owner
was you know, leaning it to the point where she
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she gave her a couple of chances to you work
it out, figure out some childcare, but to the point
where your baby is and when you go get your
services done, you want to be able to relax, you know,
a baby crying and then how are you doing hair
and trying to take care of the baby. Like it's
just it seems like it was all too much, and
so firing her is just what you have to do
for your business. I hate to sound heartless, but rufeel's
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a parent and he's over there and not and.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean as a parent, like, of course, when
you have a baby, it's tough, you know what I'm saying,
especially with childcare, childcare and cheap.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Luckily, Ess and I we have family that that baby sit.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
But if I could, like like if I needed to
bring I would not I would just call off of work.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I'm like, oh, Ashton's got nowhere to go. Like I'm like, hey,
come in here, go sit in the other room while
I do work. No, you can't do that. That's not right,
that's not how that's not how it works.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I understand she's a single mom and she she needs
a place for her child to go, but bringing her
to work not the place to be.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Now, you guys are a jury by the way, eight
five five five nine one three five. I hate to say,
I have to agree, okay, And I realize I'm the childless,
you know, unmarried guy in the room, So maybe that
that sounds like that is what I would say. But
I mean, unless your work has childcare, you can't just
bring your kid to work like unfortunately. I mean if
you work at if you worked at I don't know, McDonald's,
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or if you worked at Target or something like, you're
not just gonna I don't know, you work at wherever.
You can't just bring your kid to work at every place.
And I would also agree that you got sharp objects
objects right, And to your point, you've got people who
are there to relax and unwinde. It's an adult environment
and it's going to affect other people's business, not just
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your own, because you're sharing this salon space with everybody else.
So I don't think you can have a kid crying
or running around or whatever. I hate to say it,
but I think you're probably right.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I think so like you can't. You you're putting your
child in harm's way, first of all, because they all
kind of things happen as lines you have weird. I
was coming in and out. You have people getting their
hair done and telling all their business and it's a
therapy session and you just don't want children in that
environment unless they are being serviced.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
So plus is if I were if I were a
client of this this woman, I would be upset because
you're one hundred percent focus is not on me, Like
you're cutting my hair, You're.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Doing stuff to my head. You know what I'm saying,
Like you're you're gonna be not seventy five percent on me,
twenty five percent of that baby. What's that baby doing?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You know what I'm saying, Like I want full attention
because you are you got scissors right next to my head.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Okay, this one looking at me time? Okay, it's all
about me.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You're like old on, let me breast.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You got one hand right washing my hair, the other
hand holder on the client's home the baby.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I know it's so hard for single parents. Now, Jason,
you look like you sympathized.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
So one thing that I that I think could have
maybe gone differently is I think there could have been
a different conversation between the boss.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And her, like can we change your hours?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Can we figure out a way where we could like
get childcare or switch the schedule round or something like that. Like,
I don't think it has to be so cut and dry,
because especially like I manage people in the past, and
that would be such a dicey road for me to
go down to be like, well, just because you're tak
care of your kid, like you're fired, Like that's wild
to me.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Like I think you can sympathize Jason, but then I
have to run a business too. Yeah, you know, so
like what am I supposed to do? I mean, it's
it's a tough spot. I agree that, you know, maybe
the approach, but we don't know how long she put
I mean how long did she say she put up
with a while?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, she said for a while.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So there was warning, Hey Teresa, good morning, good morning,
how doy Hey Hi, hello, I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
What do you think in this situation? You're Kiki's court,
This woman's bringing her baby to work in at the saloon,
and and after a while, the owner of this lone
is like, hey, this isn't the this isn't a place, right, So.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
I'm actually a single helf and I have been in
situations where my bosses have been pretty lenient, but I
would never take advantage of it, like maybe one day,
I assume, But I just feel like that she had
a big grace period in the salona. Isn't a place
for kids, you know, otherwise everyone would be bringing their
child there.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You know.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
I empathize, but ultimately she should try to figure out
something so she's not disrupting other clients or her other
co workers.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
In a way.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and I feel for both parties here,
because who's to say that this woman who owns the
salon's a bad person? She says like, hey, look, this
is not the place, you know, and and I don't
provide childcare, So I'm sorry, you know what I mean, don't.
I really don't know what else you're supposed to do.
I mean, it's it's kind of a just a bad
situation all around. Thank you, Teresa, have a good day, MITO,
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bye bunch. You can call two eight five, five, five
nine one one oh three five mother three grandmother of two. Uh,
this doesn't They don't need to be around chemicals daily,
like god. Oh yeah, another text. I grew up in
salons with my mom, But I wasn't a tear. I
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sat in the back. I was also eight. Yeah, maybe
when you were a little bit older. You can entertain yourself.
Here's an iPad right exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But then to drag this lady's business online?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Have your clients do it?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Have your clients go online and bash or business like
I under you know, I make a fake profile two,
you know, to go leave reviews. But I would never
do it for stuff like this, Like you can't bash
somebody because your life didn't line up with their work.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Policies like these aren't. These are the policies in place.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
And if your friend was like, hey this girl fired me,
you go on, you would go on yelp.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Not mean Victoria, and nobody would ever know.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know, it's Kiky's picture on the burner. Adriana, good morning.
You take your kids to work? What do you do?
You're a brain surgeon.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
I work at a restaurant, watch Dog.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
I've been there for about ten years now, and.
Speaker 9 (08:05):
They understand my circumstances and it's a little hot. I
stand soul, but when I'm the cashier, I also cook.
I do everything, and they understand that when I can't,
I either don't come to work, or I bring my kids.
But my kids are well being Hey, if they are little,
they've been going there to say with babies.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
All my customers know them. All my customers actually give them.
Speaker 9 (08:24):
Money, tip them out, and it's to be me, and
they treat them with respect, taking show do my bosses
and everyone else. I've never had a problem.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
I've been blessed to be able to take them with me.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Okay, but this is an understanding that you have with
the place already. You're not just doing it and you
talk to them about it.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
Yeah, I left them ahead of time.
Speaker 9 (08:42):
I would never just bring I would never just bring
my kids to work, but I would tell them either
I bring my child.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Or I can't come in.
Speaker 9 (08:48):
So what's more important me coming into work because there's
no one to take my place or me not bringing
me not coming in?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah? Yeah, okay, thank you, Adrian. I have a good day.
Well you two thinking, I mean, you know, I get it.
If the people that own the places are okay with it,
then I guess that's okay. But the person who owns
this place is not okay with it. And I don't
know the legal ramifications. I mean, maybe what she did
was illegal. I'm not sure, but I mean it's not
really the right environment. Hey Carla, Hi, good morning. So
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it's not isn't the right place to be bringing your
kid to work every day? Right?
Speaker 8 (09:20):
I don't think so, and I think especially hair salon,
absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, So what she's supposed to do, well, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
The answer for. But you know, I'm kind of thinking
of the kid. You know, you can got that environment
for the points that they as well, but also you
know the chemicals, you know, the you know, the quality
in those places, it's not good, you know, you know,
watch your child breathing that, especially a little one, you know,
for you know, eight hours in a.
Speaker 10 (09:47):
Time or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I don't know how old this kid is, but it's
time to teach him or how to work. You know.
Let's get them sweeping, let's get them, let's get them
maybe washing hair, maybe little assistant roles, something like that.
Thank you, Carla, have a good day, you I mean,
I mean, let's a hairwash her.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Look, if you're going to be here, you know, beverages
something like that. We come on, it's time for you
to work, young man or lady. Hey, Hazel, Hi, Hi, Hazel.
So Kiki's court. This woman owns the salon and one
of her employees keeps bringing her baby to work and
they had a conversation about it. Hey, you can't do that.
This isn't the place. It's disruptive. Finally she had to
fire her, and Kiki says, okay, what do you think.
Speaker 10 (10:28):
Well, I think with me being a single mother of two,
actually I prepared myself while pregnant to make sure that
I had child's care before I went to work. And
I feel like, if you are pregnant, you should prepare
yourself to be a mom and have the responsibility to
make sure that they are being taken care of while you.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Go back to work. Okay, all right, So this is
coming from a you're saying, hey, look, it was my
responsibility to find a place for my kid to go
so I could go and do my job.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Correct.
Speaker 10 (10:59):
Yeah, and also I get the assistant. You know, I
can't do it all about myself, so you know, the
state is helping me with daycare, and is she's struggling
to you know, maybe afford it or of course, he said,
a single mother, there's always you know, help around you
just help, you know, go for it and get that help.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, thank you, Hazel, have a good day, you too. Text,
it's a horrible spot to put an employer in. You
can't just bring your kids to work people, and a
restaurant isn't safe for a child either.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Hot Talks day might be in trouble, I know.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And she was so bold about it, which I love
that she has that, you know, the opportunity to bring
her kids.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I love that they allow that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
But like, if we all take that mentality, nobody wants
to pay for child care, Like childcare is crazy expensive.
Nobody wants to pay for that. But like, you can't
just have the tone of like, well if I can't
bring my kids and I'm not working.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
What right? But here's the thing. So she's got a
bunch of people that were writing and someone made a
similar point of the text. But she's got a bunch
of people supporting her, or clients or whatever. Then just
go rent out another go to another salon, and I
guess your clients don't mind that your baby's there if
they're supporting you. So take your clients with you and
tell somebody ahead of time, either rent your own space
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or tell someone ahead of time, Hey, I'm going to
have to bring my kid. My clients don't care. Maybe
that's okay with that person, but you do have that
flexibility to take all these people. Yeah, see here actually
saying that same thing. So actually you're just saying take
your clients and go somewhere else then, right, right.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
She's already got these clients who like her. I guess
if they were willing to go online and put these
bad reviews and find a babysitter. There's plenty of hairdressers
who work from home. This is not a safe environment
for kids. I didn't hear the first part with how
old they are, but it sounds like they're like, what toddler, it.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Was a baby.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
So she mentioned she had just had the baby, but
it was crying whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
However, oh oh my goodness.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Yeah, like I feel to me, I have two children,
and that's just neglectful. Like you can't leave your kids
somewhere that long. I wouldn't leave them even at a
restaurant that long. Like, yeah, they need things to do,
they need a lot of attention. Like B But I
get being a single mom because I was a single
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mom myself, and it's really hard if you don't have
family members to help out. But then you just have
to do what you got to do with pain for
someone or finding what you can do from home. But
they do have things that help single moms, like get
into programs.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, a number of people have been texting that too,
that there's different resources. Thank you, actually have a good day.
Let's see a text here. I'm an attorney with an
eighteen month old and often think about what I would
do if for daycare clothes. Damn right, I would bring
her to court with me. Well, right here, Hey, Samantha,
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good morning.
Speaker 10 (13:54):
S morning.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Okay, so this is you. You're a hairstylist and a
single mom.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
I am, Yeah, I have three kids.
Speaker 11 (14:01):
I mean my kids are a little older. They're you know, nine,
eleven and sixteen, so it's a little different. But when
they were little, you know, you can't have little kids
running around.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
You can't work, you know.
Speaker 11 (14:11):
But if I you know, if there was a circumstance,
I couldn't go into work. You know, like if you
have to take your clients, just take.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Them at home.
Speaker 11 (14:19):
You know, I have a swat in my basement, and
if I need to take people there, I take them there.
You know, you shouldn't be bringing.
Speaker 10 (14:25):
Them to work.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
There you go, right, this is coming from somebody who's
lived it. So thank you, Samantha. Have a good day.
Look at you.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Somebody on the text was like, since she has her
clients leaving those bad reviews, maybe one of the clients
can babysit.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Oh yeah, there you go right, you're so mad about it. Oh,
I got a baby for I'll swing by around nine.