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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's a fresh show. It's Kiki's Court, all right, the
Honorable Kikileik is in the courtroom. Judge ke take it away.
Oh yes, court is in session.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Okay, this one has me torn, so I definitely need
the thirteen to wigh in. It says, hey, Kei, Kei,
my name is Maya and I'm getting married in September.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Please tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
But I just had the biggest argument with my sister,
who also happens to be my maid of honor. The
argument started because we're going over my wedding guest list
and my sister acts word plus one. She's been dating
this guy for a few months, and now all of
a sudden, she wants to bring him to my wedding.
I said no, because my fiance and I are paying
for this wedding out of our pockets and our budget
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is already tight. I'm not paying for some random guy
that you're dating. If you're not married, you don't deserve
a plus one. Single people need to understand that why
would I pay for someone to just start that you
just started dating to eat and drink for free.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Now she's threatening.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
To drop out of my wedding and causing a lot
of drama all because of her little boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Am I wrong? Wow? I've always been a little like
unclear on the rules with the plus ones same same
because like you know, people will say, well you get
the invitation, and it will say and guessed. But I've
had plus ones where it didn't say that right, And
then I've also like had to do the uncomfortable thing
where I have to ask like, hey, can I bring
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somebody to this thing or you know, and then you asks, well,
I mean, I don't know what else. Isn't that better
than just showing up with somebody?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, if they don't put plus one on my invitation,
I just assume that a plus one is not allowed.
And that's what I think is like crossing the wires
here because Maya, like you, I understand, this is your wedding,
and a wedding is not a date night, you know
what I'm saying. A lot of people get that confused.
A wedding is not a party for the family. A
wedding is not a family reunion. It's somebody's wedding. So
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you have all right to invite whoever you want and
disinvite whoever you don't want. However, to say single people
don't deserve a plus.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
One, that's a little that's a little crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But if I get an invite and I don't see
the option four plus one, I just automatically assume that
I cannot bring somebody.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, because this is where it gets confusing, is most
of the time the RSVP card is the same for everybody,
so like you have to look at I guess how
it's addressed to you, like if it's so and so
and guest or whatever. But because like oftentimes everybody has
the thing to fill in, you know, summer custom, I guess,
and it will only give you one choice, but like
others will be like how many are attending, and it's
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like whoa steak or chicken? Then I'll say like two, yeah, right,
well I'm taking I'm bringing all three my girlfriends. I mean,
there's an empty line there. I just filled it in.
Yeah that's crazy, but I get it, and I don't
get it because I feel like, if you're inviting me
to an event, it's maybe not fair to assume that
I'm just going to show up by myself. Maybe I
don't know a lot of people there. Maybe it's kind
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of I don't mean it's your sister's wedding.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So if your sister told you, Amanda was like, Frank,
you're in my wedding. I need you at my wedding.
You're my brother, But you cannot bring the girl you
just started dating five months ago.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well you know what's your drop back? That actually did happen. Oh,
I was seeing somebody and for a couple of months
before my sister got married, And the only rule was
my parents were like, don't bring this girl. The first
time that we meet her should not be at your
sister's wedding like we need because we're not going to
have a chance to really even meet her because we're
going to be busy with other stuff. So you need
to bring you need to bring her around before then.
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And then that we went wound up breaking up, so
it didn't matter. But there was a rule. It was basically,
don't bring this person around here for the very first
time unless we've also had a chance to get to
know work. Could it would be uncomfortable for her too.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Right, But if she had given you the ultimatum like
I don't care if you bring her around. You've only
been dating her for five months, she's not allowed to
come to my wedding. Would you have been upset with
Amanda or threatening to drop out of our wedding?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Nuo? No, okay no, But I also think, like I mean,
I should be able to bring somebody with me. I
agree I shouldn't have to just because I'm single doesn't
mean or I'm unmarried. Really in this case, yeah, it
doesn't mean I should have to show up everything by myself.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's what I say to as a single woman. You know,
I feel like I should get a plus one. But
in my case, in her case, if I'm only dating
this guy a couple months, I don't know if he's
going to be around a long time. Like, people need
to understand, a wedding is very expensive, and when you
think about putting it together, I would think if I
wouldn't pay seventy dollars or more for a dinner with
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this person, why would I invite them to my wedding?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Because she's your maid of honor and she's your sister,
and I would be okay with her bringing the guy
that she's dating, Like that's completely fine to me, honestly.
And I say this for you guys too, Like if
you are single, you can bring a plus one that
doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I think at that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Point the host or the bride and room should just
offer that to their guests, like for example, with Rufeo,
I said, Rufio and Jests are invited. Rufeo wasn't gonna
come with no other plus one. It was Rufio and
Jess because they are a couple and I know them.
They're married. But for like you guys are, who ever
was single, I said, bring bring somebody if you'd like.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Kaylen brought a friend, Like, I was completely okay with you.
Kaylen brought a friend and then I probably she was
popped up against me. Yeah, yeah, yeah I was. I was.
I was a physical tripod for this woman. Yeah, like
literally was weekend at Bernie's at your wedding. It was, Yeah,
she brought a friend and it was here and after
two drinks she was so hammered. It was just proper
up against the six foot five guy. And you'll just
I wasn't mad about it, but at least she made
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it to the welcome party. She did. Like that's true,
unlike you're now husband, make it. She had to be
propped up.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
She was there.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
She was there all that matters. There wasn't. I don't
think there was really a time except we were in
the pool that I wasn't concerned that she was going
to fall over if I didn't stand next to her
and in the pool, I was worried about her drowning.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Never mind, don't give a plus one.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
In my experience, if you're ever in the wedding party,
no matter if you're single or with someone, you always
get a plus one because I think it's a nice
nod to say, hey, thank you, it's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Whatever I have heard of.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
If I don't know of you dating someone, you're not
getting a plus one.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I've heard of that. I think it gets shady.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I guess maybe when it's family because you want your
sibling to like be with you the whole day and
spend family time, and it's hard with some like random
dude around.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
But what do I care? I mean, get your plusurele see.
I would argue, if you're in the wedding, unless it's
someone you're pretty serious with who knows other people there,
I would argue not to bring. I would argue that
the time to bring somebody you just started dating is
if you're just a guest. Because if I just started
dating you and I'm in the wedding, that means there's
a lot of time that this person who nobody knows
is just gonna have to offend for themselves, right, And
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I'm not sure if I think that's fair.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
It's just a gesture that like usually the Brian groom do.
But I also would say that this is the deal.
You're going to be alone a lot of the day
and leave it up to my date. And if they're
fine with it, why not.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Eight five five five nine three five. You guys are
the jury. Kate. Good morning, Hi, good morning, how are you? Hey?
Good morning? So Kiki's court, why don't you recap it
real quick for everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Maya is getting married in September. Her sister wants to
bring a guy that she just started dating to the
wedding and Maya said absolutely not. Now the sister, who's
also the maid of honor, is the threatening to drop
out of the wedding.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Same you can drop by the wedding over and do
it anyway. What do you think, Kate?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Well, I think if the bride and groom are paying
for the wedding, they do have the right to decide,
like if you get a plus one or not. If
they can't afford it and they want their friends there,
I think that's fine. But to say that people don't
deserve a plus one, that's like giving me Bridezilla a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah. Yeah. And then to say that you're not going
to attend your sister's wedding, come on, Like, you can
be pissed, but don't do that. Don't hold it over.
I mean it's you know, you hope this only happens
like two or three times in her life, so youly
happens once, so like, but you don't that's not cool.
I mean you could be pissed, but you still you
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don't tell her. You're not going to add to the
stress of the event by saying also, I'm not gonna
calm Like, come on, I mean that she got to
stand up. What's that kid?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
What is this guy gonna do if there's no club?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Uh? Oh? If what you well, what's that going to
do with one?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
If like, if there's no other plus ones there, the
bridal party's got to go like do pictures and all
the wedding parties.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, well, I mean he can fend for himself. But yeah,
I get I guess it's more about the expense than
it is like his happiness or comfort or whatever. But Kate,
thank you so much. Have a great day you too. Taylor.
Hi Taylor, good morning. How you doing.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
I'm doing great?
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Thanks?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
How are you guys?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Hey? Great? Welcome? What do you think?
Speaker 6 (08:28):
So this actually happened to me at my wedding. I
have two sisters and one of them I didn't even
know she was dating someone. She had been dating him
secretly for six months, and she was like, where's my
plus one? And I was like, b you didn't even
tell me we're dating somebody. But I think to what
some other people have said, like with immediate family, I
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think you give them that. I think there's a ring
of kind of like if an extended friend is asking
for a plus one and I didn't know you were
dating someone, I'm sorry, but no, But if you're my sibling,
I'm going to get.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
You a pass.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
So I allowed my sister to bring her secret boyfriend.
I had allowed my other sister then to bring her
boyfriend of three months. Thankfully my persister not married to
her secret boyfriend. So had I denied? Had I denied?
That I would have been essentially denied my future brother
in law. So I think there's a little liberty and
grace you have to give your you know, your siblings
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to say that if you think this is the one. Yes,
they need a fend for themselves because they're going to
be by all day. I need you to hold my
dress while I pee.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So no, right exactly. It's like, look, you can bring somebody,
but like your obligation is by going to be the
maid of honor or whatever your obligation is to me
on this day. So like that, right, yep?
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Because I think what would be worse is in the
future if your sister ends up marrying that guy and
that she's mad at you because you didn't let him
come to your wedding, the repercussions of that might be
really unfortunate for you.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, ye's true truth. Thank you so much. Have a
good day, Taylor, Yeah you too.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
The other thing is the guy who's always single you
also and who brings has been known to bring a
plus one now and again. You got to be as
the person bringing a plus one, you got to be
thoughtful about who you're bringing. Because you're right, this is
not date night. Like, I'm not bringing the girl I
just met on he injuror whatever to the wedding of
my close personal friends because that's awkward for her, it's
awkward for me. Like either, if you're seeing somebody and
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it's semi serious, maybe you bring that person. But if
you're not, don't just bring somebody and take a spot
and spend their money just because you don't want to
be alone. Yes, you got to be thoughtful about Like
I've gone to a couple of weddings where I didn't
want to go alone, so I brought in somebody that
was more significant to me than just someone I was dating,
you know, because I didn't want to go alone. But
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I also needed somebody who could hold their own and
was gonna, you know, a known quantity, right, Because the
last thing I'm trying to do is bring somebody I
don't know to a wedding only to find out at
the wedding that they're a crazy person. Right, They're a
mean drunk right in front of all my friends and family.
And then I just did that to myself him Elise, Hey, hey,
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good morning. What do you think?
Speaker 8 (11:07):
So I think she has to take an account too,
is how far is the wedding because some venues they
have between like three months, you have to have the
final count.
Speaker 9 (11:19):
Okay, So if you don't have the final count, that's
an unexpensed so they're going to charge your arm in
the lake.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Oh I see. So if you meet somebody within three months,
then it's like I'm not adding. I'm not adding this
person for you.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
And then it depends also too, when when is her wedding? Okay?
If it's like six months in advance, okay, I don't know.
If you guys are going to be together. Have I
met this man?
Speaker 10 (11:40):
Like for me when I had my wedding, I but
if I didn't know the person and I didn't meet
them within that year, like my friends and his friends,
I didn't.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
Invite them to the wedding. I think we only allowed
one exception, which was one of his closest friends, his
childhood friends. I'm like, oh, okay, you're the only one
who can bring someone I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Okay, that's fair. Yeah, thank you, Malise, have a good day.
Thank you, glad you called. Good morning, Thanks for listening.
Hey Cheryl, Hi, hi, Hi Cheryl. What do you think
so Jakiki's court. This woman is getting married her sister,
who is the main of honor, who wants to bring
this dude she's been dating for three months. The bride
says no, and so now the sister's looking to back
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out of the whole thing because she wants to bring
this dude. What do you think, Well, well, my.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Take is a little different. It's kind of not about
the money. It's about if she's not letting her sister
bring a plus one. Is she not letting anybody else,
say she's inviting to the to the you know, reception,
bring a plus one either.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Well, what she said was single people, if you're not married,
you don't get a plus one.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
That was her words.
Speaker 10 (12:47):
Oh, if you're not married, you don't get a plus one.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Yeah, but I don't know, I think, you know, I'm
just wondering if she the way I the way I
you know, heard it was like she's not she's only
inviting like mary people.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Oh yeah, it's just the person has to be more
significant than just a flame or just a casual date,
because it's expensive and you're taking a spot of somebody
that maybe this person knew well or better.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Yeah, but also you want everybody to have fun at
the at the wedding. Also, you know you don't want her,
you know, her sister just sitting there. You know, I
wish you know, so and Soul could have been invited.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Also, you know, yeah, yeah, fair enough, thank you, Cheryl,
have a good day, thank you. I've said fair enough
like thirty times today. I don't know if that's like
my new new thing. Fair enough, fair enough, fair enough. God,
I need to shut up. Emily, Hi, good morning, good morning.
So this just happened to you, this same scenario kind of.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Yeah, my sister just had her wedding in May, and I.
Speaker 11 (13:47):
Was here made of honor, and she had the rule
that if I hadn't been with a significant other for
a year before the wedding, then I couldn't invite a
significant other because she didn't want no random person in
her photo.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Oh yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 11 (14:03):
At the end, she did let me bring up my
best friend, though she's still getting me a plus one.
She just we had the situation for my parents. One
of their uh siblings had a random date and because
he broke up with his girlfriend. But then that old
girlfriend uh I ended up being his wife, and so
we had this random person at all of my parents'
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wedding photos.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, that's a good point about the pictures. I mean,
not like the formal ones, but they would still be
in the casual pictures, like from the events, like who
is this idiot? Like, oh, yeah, I dated I met
him on Tinder, I dated him for two months. It's like, oh, well, thanks,
now he's in our pictures forever. Well, yeah, I get that.
Thank you, Emily, have a good day. Thank you loving
Yeah yea, love you to Crystal. Hi, Crystal, you had
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a tough time getting the plus one of your friend's wedding.
Speaker 9 (14:50):
I did, And to make a long story short, because
she wouldn't let me have a plus one, which.
Speaker 10 (14:55):
I've been with this guy for al those two years
at the time, we ended up going.
Speaker 9 (14:59):
To Mexico the weekend of her wedding.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Damn.
Speaker 10 (15:01):
Not only was there, yeah, damn.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Now was it worth burning your friendship down over?
Speaker 10 (15:09):
No? Not at all. I even told her, like the
week beforehand, like, girl, you should have he would have
bought the gifts.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Okay, so you you would. She wouldn't let this guy go.
So you say, I'm not gonna I'm not going to
the wedding at all, I'm going to Mexico instead, and
this woman is still your friend.
Speaker 10 (15:25):
Yeah, well I didn't.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I didn't propose the trip he did.
Speaker 10 (15:30):
I had to oblige.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Oh I mean no, you didn't. You played Crystal. You
could have said no, I got to go to this wedding.
You can't go see this. This friendship is more important
to me than than this trivial experience here. But this
woman forgave you. You're still friends with her? TD. What's that? TVD? TVD? Okay,
well I don't know about that. Did you have fun
in fun in Mexico? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I did?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
We did?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
We did?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
There you go, Crystal, have a good day.