June 2, 2025 • 16 mins
A listener has lost sleep over catching her coworker stealing food from the break room. She reported it to HR and her coworker was fired. After her coworker was fired, she found out her coworker was using the food to feed his niece after his sister passed away... Judge Keke weighs in!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Order up. It's a fresh show. It's Kiki's court, all right,
the Honorable Kikilik is here, Judge Kiki. But I'm taking away.
You guys are get jury by the way, eight five five.
I want to hear your thoughts after we hear the case.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I need them today because I'm torn. Let's get into
this court room. It says, am I wrong for reporting
my coworker for stealing food. I work at a mid
sized tech company with a decent cafeteria. Nothing fancy sandwiches, snacks, coffee,
but it's all paid for by our company. Well, a
month ago I started noticing food was going rather quickly.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
From our kitchen.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Snacks will be put out at eight am and completely
gone before noon. It became a running joke in the office.
We called it the lunch room bandit striking again. People
were getting annoyed. Some brought it up in meetings. HR
sent the friendly reminder email, and cameras were quietly installed
near the break room, and we were told it was
just for safety reasons.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, two weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Later I walk into the kitchen and catch my coworker
mid swipe, taking a handful of sandwiches and chips.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Slipping it into his backpack. I was shocked. He saw me.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He froze, and then he muttered, it's not what it
looks like. I still decided to report it okay. Later
that day he was quietly escorted out by HR. However,
the next morning, I get an anonymous email with a
subject with no subject line, just a link. So I
clicked the link and it was a GoFundMe page. Well,
(01:32):
apparently my coworker had secretly been raising his thirteen year
old niece and sixteen year old nephew alone for the
last year after his sister died in a car accident.
According to this GoFundMe, she died with no insurance and
no help for the kids, leaving my coworker behind on rent,
barely affording groceries, and sleeping on a couch so that
his niece and nephew can have a bedroom. No one
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at work knew about this. He never told us that
he was going through all of this. Well, the gofund
me that he didn't want to burden anyone and asking
for help by asking for help, so he tried to
handle it all by himself. And now because of me,
he's unemployed. Now my co workers are split. Some say
I was right to report him stealing and stealing. Others
(02:15):
say I destroyed a man who was trying to feed
some kids. HR said, hey, their hands are tied once
it was caught on video, and honestly, I don't know
if I would have done anything different, but I feel
like garbage.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Was I wrong?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Man? Woo wow? Five three five. You guys are the jury,
but you're the judge, judge Kicky, what say you? Yo?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I lost sleep over this one over the weekend because
I'm for.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Real, for real torn because on one hand, I'm sometimes
we need to mind our business, like sometimes we needed
they put cameras there to be the police. Why did
you share and feel the need to go be the police?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
You know, you feel like you didn't pay for this stuff.
It's not your stuff. I mean, yeah, it sucks that
it's a perk that's not available to you because it's
all on. But at the same time, like, who are
you to complain about?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I mean, you know, But then it's like, I mean
you are still like it's so sad because now this
man has no job and he's trying to take care
of these two kids.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Who have lost their mother. Okay, and Sharon you didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Oh god.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But Sharon thought she was doing the right thing at
the time. So it's like, what do you do if
you see your cowork and steal it from work? I
mean people steal paper, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
PM.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm not saying a word. No, I'm staying out of
it unless you're doing something that's like.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Harmful to others something, yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, like I don't know if you're selling company secrets
or something. I mean something that could affect the bottom line.
That could mean that a bunch of people, you know,
lose their jobs, or that the company closes, or's something
something more, something like really nefarious. I'm stealing sandwiches at work, yeah,
I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
But you go every time you go to the break room,
it's completely empty. There's not a snack in.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well, that's just because they don't put anything here that's
right there right now. That's because they cut the budget.
We don't get to have nice things anymore. That's why
that is.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But it's like she feels as if she lost this
man his job, but then on the other hand, he
kind of lost the job himself because he was stealing y.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
I asked, though, are these like free snacks or is
this like you gotta pay in the jar, Like what's
the deal.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
With the snacks?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's all paid for by the company, so it's free snacks.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
So he can't just say, oh, I wanted to eat
these doritos at home with my sandwich, Like sometimes I
got to hear with the break room snacks because I'm
going to my car, but I still want to eat
my funions. I'm just really confuseding. So, yeah, why you're
such a company girl that you feel you felt the
need to be the police of the chips and the whatever,
the crackers, whatever the sandwich is and now you.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Kind of blew up this guy's life.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, and those poor children.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I mean, it's a company cared enough to look into
it to catch him. I guess that's one thing. That's
one thing, But like, as a coworker, I get that
the stealing is wrong, but it's also like, why are
you such a busybody? Like this was a perk, This
wasn't owed to you, right, and now this person's got
much bigger problems when you could have just minded your
(05:09):
own business.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
It's so sad.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I think you got to Hey, Brittany, I'm with you
you got to mind your own business, right.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Oh my god, So I get it, but like, yeah,
it calls zero dollars and takes zero.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Minutes to mind your own essing business.
Speaker 8 (05:25):
Like it's not that.
Speaker 9 (05:26):
It's never that serious, I promise you. Like you said,
if he was like packing information and you know, releasing
like stuff like that, I get it.
Speaker 10 (05:36):
Look, she needs to man her business.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah yeah, I just I think, yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
You got to feed these kids.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
And one one thing I always say is you never
know what people are going through. Yes, so like if
it is that serious that he's doing it, you never know.
So now we should feel like absolute you know, yeah we.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Have Brittany, thank you, have a good day. Someone tells
you this is tough. The company who failed the guy, well,
I mean, I also don't know if the company failed
the guy because they may not have known the context either.
They're just looking at it, like why are you taking
all of the things that we're putting on for everybody? Right,
I'm not sure if that's determinable offense, But we also
don't know anything else. Yeah, like what's this dode on
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a performance thing? Was like you know, who knows if
this was the only reason why, Like we never tend
to have the whole story.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Was he warned before or something right?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Right? Like when people get let go. You know, we
oftentimes don't know everything that was involved. That being said,
if this was the final straw and it hurt busybody,
as is the one that you know, like I just say,
out of it? Man, Hey, Johnny, Hey, how you doing
for it?
Speaker 8 (06:45):
He man?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Hey, good morning. So you say they should have fired
this guy.
Speaker 10 (06:49):
My thing is okay, So I'm part of a family business, okay,
And if we have employees dealing from their company, right,
it wouldn't make the company look good. Small steptit, theft,
It doesn't matter how you look at it. If they
were smart enough and they would have come forward, I
guarantee you somebody in that in that office would have
helped them and would have offered groceries, would have done
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something better than him stealing from her company.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That he worked for.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, but it's not always like that. People don't want
to put their business out there too.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, I mean right, like maybe he doesn't. But there's
right and wrong.
Speaker 10 (07:21):
You know, there's right and wrong, and there's they're stealing.
No matter how you look at it, stealing is stealing.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Stealing is a crime. It is a crime. But I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
I feel like this lady writing in probably wants to
take away free lunches for kids too at school.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I don't like something that.
Speaker 10 (07:34):
I get both sides of it. I do understand both
sides of it, but you have to realize, you know,
I'm also raising two boys. How would I want my
boys to act what I want my boys to steal?
Or would I want my boys to report somebody's stealing
so that that way they're they're.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
In the right. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, Johnny,
thank you, man. I have a good day. I get well.
A number of text you're saying like if she cared
that much, why didn't she just go to him? You know,
why don't she just go to him? Hey, look like
I see you taking all this stuff, like you know,
I don't get to eat it because you got it
all on your bag or whatever, Like what's up with that?
And maybe he would have explained, and then maybe she
(08:09):
could have helped come up with a better solution for him.
Then again, it's also not her responsibility to come up
with a solution, but maybe she could have been like, wow, okay, well,
I understand, like there, let's come up with some other
resources or something, because if you do get caught, you
might get fired.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Right now, she did catch him red handed in the kitchen,
and he said, it's not what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
But it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
That's all he said. Though if she still report it.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
So.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Why wasn't there a conversation there?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Like who just says that?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And another interesting point is is it stealing if it's free?
Oh yeah, I mean it was only free to you.
It wasn't free to the company, and it was a
company benefit intended for everybody to have, So so it
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is stealing because someone paid for it, you know, on
this whole thing with like and then there are people
going never side with the multi billion dollar company. It's like,
I mean, the multi billion dollar company is still paying
your bills. You still work there, they still bought the sandwiches,
they're still providing the work environment, Like I don't understand that.
It's like, well, we don't like the billion dollar company. Well,
(09:19):
the billion dollar company is paying our bills, so I
don't have to like everything they do. But I don't
own the billion dollar company, so I don't get to
tell them how to do things. I can choose to
walk away. I can choose to get a job somewhere
else in another multi billion dollar company.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That happens every day.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
But you know, it's like, sorry, but this is I mean,
we live in a hierarchy, guys, like there's always going
to be an owner of the business and they're always
going to be employees, and some of us don't get
to be the owner. Sorry, hey Emily, Hey, hi Emily.
So just to recap here at Kekey's court, basically a
dude was stealing free lunch from work that they were
(09:55):
providing for the employees. It turned out that he may
have been stealing. It was more than likely see it
because he was raising two kids at home that weren't
his and that he had nothing to do with. But
he didn't have any money and was trying to make
it work, but he wanted getting fired. Nonetheless, what do
you think?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Okay, So two things like one, so my company gave
the snacks and lunch and stuff too, and I have
I openly admit my coworkers that I shake, you know,
steal extras and whatnot. But it's mostly because they were
going to expire and we have like a plus thor us,
so opposite situation of we're not running low by any means.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But you know, just.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Sorry to take inventory.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Well, I mean I'm not being wasteful, right, I'm actually
saving the company money.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Right yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Oh wait, how are you? How are you saving the
company money? I'd like to hear more about that.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Well, I was just getting thrown away, I'm using I'm
using their money they've already spent.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, well fair enough, thank you, Emily.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I like Emily think.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
See here we go in the text, people going, well,
this is billion dollar companies paying a liverabol wage. We
don't know that. We don't know any of this.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Maybe they're not maybe they're not paying enough of a
wage for him to support two kids. But he didn't
know he was gonna have to. I don't, I don't know.
There's a lot we don't know here. You can't exactly
just take, you can't exactly steal, you know, And it
sucks that this dude has an extenuating circumstance. But you also,
I guess I don't know why our fellow employees are
(11:26):
ratting each other out either, Like I don't I guess
I would just look the other way and be like,
if you really feel the need to take that many
sandwiches home, there might my brain would go to there
might be something going on, like my brain would would go,
I mean, I guess it's one of two things. You're
either that greedy and that didn't consider it, or you're
taking the food because you need the food and and
and that to me would that's I guess. I don't
(11:49):
know the answer, so I would stay out of it. Right.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
What's like the policy though, Like, don't companies have policies
where it's like some sign that says one per person,
don't take it out of the break room?
Speaker 8 (12:00):
Have that here?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
When we used to have, you know, like a break
room full of chips, they didn't say anything. I mean,
and you know what, there were people here that would
probably take eight chips in there, people here that didn't
take any That's just kind of how it goes.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Some people want it, they don't want it. But now
I'm afraid leave the building with my chips. I don't
know do I take don't you now if we had them,
i'd be watching you. Maybe the reason we don't have it.
I don't know what to do look at you in
your in your in your your cheeto fingers over there.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Hi, Darren, good morning to my number one morning show.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
That is a perfect way to start this call. You
are a sexy man, you Darren. What do you think though?
What's the what's your what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 8 (12:44):
Well? You know, fred I could think of a couple
of reasons, from worldly to biblical reasons why she should
not have told on that man. It doesn't matter what
the reason is. World is speaking, You just get stitches.
Don't care Biblical biblic were speaking. Let he who's without
seeing casts the first stone.
Speaker 11 (13:03):
Amen, and you just you just can't do that to people.
That is between him and whatever he believes in. And
if he gets caught by the higher ups, then he
gets caught. It should not have been in your hands
to control that man.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
And that's exactly what you did. You control that man's life.
And now look at he's without a job, uh, and
he has to support kids that otherwise he probably couldn't
have done. So, like I said, she should have kept
her mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, I'm with you, Darren on that and a lot
of other issues that people that don't apply to people,
but they feel the need to insert themselves into It's
like if you if it doesn't apply to you, or
you think it's wrong, then don't do it. And then
you don't. I guess you don't have a problem. But
then this extra step where I need to make sure
nobody else gets to do it either. It's necessary a
(13:51):
lot of times, Darren, it is. Yeah, well look at that, Yes, sir,
A lot of reason there from Darren. Thank you man,
have a good day.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
You all have a great deals will Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Sa Hi, Tiana, good morning, good morning. Hey you say
report this person. I do why.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Because I actually have been a retail manager for a
multitude of years, and I will tell you whenever someone continuously,
you know, they get away with something and then they
continue to potentially steal, HR sends out an email, chances
are there's something else that they're doing wrong. What else
(14:30):
is missing? You never know with an individual, So it
could very well potentially be I don't know what company
this is. Maybe some other funds are going missing.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, I do hate to say that because it could
be and again I'm reaching here, but it could be
a slippery slope. And I don't know how much money
this represents to the company, this benefit they're providing. But
if you were to say this guy was stealing one
hundred bucks a day from the company or fifty bucks
a day, that right there, I think would resonate differently
with people. I think if you were to say this
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dude's siphoning off fifty bucks a day secretly from the company,
and then it turns out to pay for these kids' food,
that's a noble cause. But the money, I think immediately
would be oh, terminate him, fire him. Done. Well, he
kind of is stealing money from the company, but in
the form of food, right, So why is one okay
and the other one wouldn't be okay? Because I bet
(15:22):
you if you had said he's stealing fifty bucks a day,
one hundred percent of people would call up here and say, well,
you can't do that, right, And that's kind of what he's.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Doing, Tiana exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, thank you so much, have a good day.
Speaker 10 (15:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I wanted to say, I love you guys, thank.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You so much, thank you, love you too, have a
good day. And then like, I don't know. Again, I
think I would do my best to stay out of
it because I really don't like conflict and drama. And
I don't want to be bad. But then what if
you're on camera watching this. Okay, I know I'm reaching again,
but like you know, Devil's advocate here, what if they
look into this and they see you're standing there too,
and you didn't say anything?
Speaker 9 (15:59):
Right?
Speaker 10 (16:00):
You know?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
We have to take that stupid training every year where
it's like basically we're supposed to turn everybody in that
we see do anything that I was supposed to be doing. Like,
if we see somebody, you know, breaking company policy, we're
supposed to tell the company about it.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Right, Because now I can't get a raise because you
took seven sandwiches every day. That's why I can't get
because you need paper. It's your printer at home. So
Jason walking out of here with four bundles of paper
every day?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yes, you know that is crazy? You got that? Might yeah,
you're not a free postage I've gotten out of this
place over the years. Might be the reason why none
of us have gotten raised. It's never mind. I'm going
to terminate myself.
Order up. It's a fresh show. It's Kiki's court, all right,
the Honorable Kikilik is here, Judge Kiki. But I'm taking away.
You guys are get jury by the way, eight five five.
I want to hear your thoughts after we hear the case.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I need them today because I'm torn. Let's get into
this court room. It says, am I wrong for reporting
my coworker for stealing food. I work at a mid
sized tech company with a decent cafeteria. Nothing fancy sandwiches, snacks, coffee,
but it's all paid for by our company. Well, a
month ago I started noticing food was going rather quickly.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
From our kitchen.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Snacks will be put out at eight am and completely
gone before noon. It became a running joke in the office.
We called it the lunch room bandit striking again. People
were getting annoyed. Some brought it up in meetings. HR
sent the friendly reminder email, and cameras were quietly installed
near the break room, and we were told it was
just for safety reasons.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, two weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Later I walk into the kitchen and catch my coworker
mid swipe, taking a handful of sandwiches and chips.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Slipping it into his backpack. I was shocked. He saw me.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He froze, and then he muttered, it's not what it
looks like. I still decided to report it okay. Later
that day he was quietly escorted out by HR. However,
the next morning, I get an anonymous email with a
subject with no subject line, just a link. So I
clicked the link and it was a GoFundMe page. Well,
(01:32):
apparently my coworker had secretly been raising his thirteen year
old niece and sixteen year old nephew alone for the
last year after his sister died in a car accident.
According to this GoFundMe, she died with no insurance and
no help for the kids, leaving my coworker behind on rent,
barely affording groceries, and sleeping on a couch so that
his niece and nephew can have a bedroom. No one
(01:54):
at work knew about this. He never told us that
he was going through all of this. Well, the gofund
me that he didn't want to burden anyone and asking
for help by asking for help, so he tried to
handle it all by himself. And now because of me,
he's unemployed. Now my co workers are split. Some say
I was right to report him stealing and stealing. Others
(02:15):
say I destroyed a man who was trying to feed
some kids. HR said, hey, their hands are tied once
it was caught on video, and honestly, I don't know
if I would have done anything different, but I feel
like garbage.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Was I wrong?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Man? Woo wow? Five three five. You guys are the jury,
but you're the judge, judge Kicky, what say you? Yo?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I lost sleep over this one over the weekend because
I'm for.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Real, for real torn because on one hand, I'm sometimes
we need to mind our business, like sometimes we needed
they put cameras there to be the police. Why did
you share and feel the need to go be the police?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
You know, you feel like you didn't pay for this stuff.
It's not your stuff. I mean, yeah, it sucks that
it's a perk that's not available to you because it's
all on. But at the same time, like, who are
you to complain about?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I mean, you know, But then it's like, I mean
you are still like it's so sad because now this
man has no job and he's trying to take care
of these two kids.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Who have lost their mother. Okay, and Sharon you didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Oh god.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But Sharon thought she was doing the right thing at
the time. So it's like, what do you do if
you see your cowork and steal it from work? I
mean people steal paper, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
PM.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm not saying a word. No, I'm staying out of
it unless you're doing something that's like.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Harmful to others something, yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, like I don't know if you're selling company secrets
or something. I mean something that could affect the bottom line.
That could mean that a bunch of people, you know,
lose their jobs, or that the company closes, or's something
something more, something like really nefarious. I'm stealing sandwiches at work, yeah,
I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
But you go every time you go to the break room,
it's completely empty. There's not a snack in.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well, that's just because they don't put anything here that's
right there right now. That's because they cut the budget.
We don't get to have nice things anymore. That's why
that is.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But it's like she feels as if she lost this
man his job, but then on the other hand, he
kind of lost the job himself because he was stealing y.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
I asked, though, are these like free snacks or is
this like you gotta pay in the jar, Like what's
the deal.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
With the snacks?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's all paid for by the company, so it's free snacks.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
So he can't just say, oh, I wanted to eat
these doritos at home with my sandwich, Like sometimes I
got to hear with the break room snacks because I'm
going to my car, but I still want to eat
my funions. I'm just really confuseding. So, yeah, why you're
such a company girl that you feel you felt the
need to be the police of the chips and the whatever,
the crackers, whatever the sandwich is and now you.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Kind of blew up this guy's life.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, and those poor children.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I mean, it's a company cared enough to look into
it to catch him. I guess that's one thing. That's
one thing, But like, as a coworker, I get that
the stealing is wrong, but it's also like, why are
you such a busybody? Like this was a perk, This
wasn't owed to you, right, and now this person's got
much bigger problems when you could have just minded your
(05:09):
own business.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
It's so sad.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I think you got to Hey, Brittany, I'm with you
you got to mind your own business, right.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Oh my god, So I get it, but like, yeah,
it calls zero dollars and takes zero.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Minutes to mind your own essing business.
Speaker 8 (05:25):
Like it's not that.
Speaker 9 (05:26):
It's never that serious, I promise you. Like you said,
if he was like packing information and you know, releasing
like stuff like that, I get it.
Speaker 10 (05:36):
Look, she needs to man her business.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah yeah, I just I think, yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
You got to feed these kids.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
And one one thing I always say is you never
know what people are going through. Yes, so like if
it is that serious that he's doing it, you never know.
So now we should feel like absolute you know, yeah we.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Have Brittany, thank you, have a good day. Someone tells
you this is tough. The company who failed the guy, well,
I mean, I also don't know if the company failed
the guy because they may not have known the context either.
They're just looking at it, like why are you taking
all of the things that we're putting on for everybody? Right,
I'm not sure if that's determinable offense, But we also
don't know anything else. Yeah, like what's this dode on
(06:21):
a performance thing? Was like you know, who knows if
this was the only reason why, Like we never tend
to have the whole story.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Was he warned before or something right?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Right? Like when people get let go. You know, we
oftentimes don't know everything that was involved. That being said,
if this was the final straw and it hurt busybody,
as is the one that you know, like I just say,
out of it? Man, Hey, Johnny, Hey, how you doing
for it?
Speaker 8 (06:45):
He man?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Hey, good morning. So you say they should have fired
this guy.
Speaker 10 (06:49):
My thing is okay, So I'm part of a family business, okay,
And if we have employees dealing from their company, right,
it wouldn't make the company look good. Small steptit, theft,
It doesn't matter how you look at it. If they
were smart enough and they would have come forward, I
guarantee you somebody in that in that office would have
helped them and would have offered groceries, would have done
(07:10):
something better than him stealing from her company.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That he worked for.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, but it's not always like that. People don't want
to put their business out there too.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, I mean right, like maybe he doesn't. But there's
right and wrong.
Speaker 10 (07:21):
You know, there's right and wrong, and there's they're stealing.
No matter how you look at it, stealing is stealing.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Stealing is a crime. It is a crime. But I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
I feel like this lady writing in probably wants to
take away free lunches for kids too at school.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I don't like something that.
Speaker 10 (07:34):
I get both sides of it. I do understand both
sides of it, but you have to realize, you know,
I'm also raising two boys. How would I want my
boys to act what I want my boys to steal?
Or would I want my boys to report somebody's stealing
so that that way they're they're.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
In the right. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, Johnny,
thank you, man. I have a good day. I get well.
A number of text you're saying like if she cared
that much, why didn't she just go to him? You know,
why don't she just go to him? Hey, look like
I see you taking all this stuff, like you know,
I don't get to eat it because you got it
all on your bag or whatever, Like what's up with that?
And maybe he would have explained, and then maybe she
(08:09):
could have helped come up with a better solution for him.
Then again, it's also not her responsibility to come up
with a solution, but maybe she could have been like, wow, okay, well,
I understand, like there, let's come up with some other
resources or something, because if you do get caught, you
might get fired.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Right now, she did catch him red handed in the kitchen,
and he said, it's not what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
But it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
That's all he said. Though if she still report it.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
So.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Why wasn't there a conversation there?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Like who just says that?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And another interesting point is is it stealing if it's free?
Oh yeah, I mean it was only free to you.
It wasn't free to the company, and it was a
company benefit intended for everybody to have, So so it
(08:59):
is stealing because someone paid for it, you know, on
this whole thing with like and then there are people
going never side with the multi billion dollar company. It's like,
I mean, the multi billion dollar company is still paying
your bills. You still work there, they still bought the sandwiches,
they're still providing the work environment, Like I don't understand that.
It's like, well, we don't like the billion dollar company. Well,
(09:19):
the billion dollar company is paying our bills, so I
don't have to like everything they do. But I don't
own the billion dollar company, so I don't get to
tell them how to do things. I can choose to
walk away. I can choose to get a job somewhere
else in another multi billion dollar company.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That happens every day.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
But you know, it's like, sorry, but this is I mean,
we live in a hierarchy, guys, like there's always going
to be an owner of the business and they're always
going to be employees, and some of us don't get
to be the owner. Sorry, hey Emily, Hey, hi Emily.
So just to recap here at Kekey's court, basically a
dude was stealing free lunch from work that they were
(09:55):
providing for the employees. It turned out that he may
have been stealing. It was more than likely see it
because he was raising two kids at home that weren't
his and that he had nothing to do with. But
he didn't have any money and was trying to make
it work, but he wanted getting fired. Nonetheless, what do
you think?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Okay, So two things like one, so my company gave
the snacks and lunch and stuff too, and I have
I openly admit my coworkers that I shake, you know,
steal extras and whatnot. But it's mostly because they were
going to expire and we have like a plus thor us,
so opposite situation of we're not running low by any means.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But you know, just.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Sorry to take inventory.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Well, I mean I'm not being wasteful, right, I'm actually
saving the company money.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Right yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Oh wait, how are you? How are you saving the
company money? I'd like to hear more about that.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Well, I was just getting thrown away, I'm using I'm
using their money they've already spent.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, well fair enough, thank you, Emily.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I like Emily think.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
See here we go in the text, people going, well,
this is billion dollar companies paying a liverabol wage. We
don't know that. We don't know any of this.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Maybe they're not maybe they're not paying enough of a
wage for him to support two kids. But he didn't
know he was gonna have to. I don't, I don't know.
There's a lot we don't know here. You can't exactly
just take, you can't exactly steal, you know, And it
sucks that this dude has an extenuating circumstance. But you also,
I guess I don't know why our fellow employees are
(11:26):
ratting each other out either, Like I don't I guess
I would just look the other way and be like,
if you really feel the need to take that many
sandwiches home, there might my brain would go to there
might be something going on, like my brain would would go,
I mean, I guess it's one of two things. You're
either that greedy and that didn't consider it, or you're
taking the food because you need the food and and
and that to me would that's I guess. I don't
(11:49):
know the answer, so I would stay out of it. Right.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
What's like the policy though, Like, don't companies have policies
where it's like some sign that says one per person,
don't take it out of the break room?
Speaker 8 (12:00):
Have that here?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
When we used to have, you know, like a break
room full of chips, they didn't say anything. I mean,
and you know what, there were people here that would
probably take eight chips in there, people here that didn't
take any That's just kind of how it goes.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Some people want it, they don't want it. But now
I'm afraid leave the building with my chips. I don't
know do I take don't you now if we had them,
i'd be watching you. Maybe the reason we don't have it.
I don't know what to do look at you in
your in your in your your cheeto fingers over there.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Hi, Darren, good morning to my number one morning show.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
That is a perfect way to start this call. You
are a sexy man, you Darren. What do you think though?
What's the what's your what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 8 (12:44):
Well? You know, fred I could think of a couple
of reasons, from worldly to biblical reasons why she should
not have told on that man. It doesn't matter what
the reason is. World is speaking, You just get stitches.
Don't care Biblical biblic were speaking. Let he who's without
seeing casts the first stone.
Speaker 11 (13:03):
Amen, and you just you just can't do that to people.
That is between him and whatever he believes in. And
if he gets caught by the higher ups, then he
gets caught. It should not have been in your hands
to control that man.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
And that's exactly what you did. You control that man's life.
And now look at he's without a job, uh, and
he has to support kids that otherwise he probably couldn't
have done. So, like I said, she should have kept
her mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, I'm with you, Darren on that and a lot
of other issues that people that don't apply to people,
but they feel the need to insert themselves into It's
like if you if it doesn't apply to you, or
you think it's wrong, then don't do it. And then
you don't. I guess you don't have a problem. But
then this extra step where I need to make sure
nobody else gets to do it either. It's necessary a
(13:51):
lot of times, Darren, it is. Yeah, well look at that, Yes, sir,
A lot of reason there from Darren. Thank you man,
have a good day.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
You all have a great deals will Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Sa Hi, Tiana, good morning, good morning. Hey you say
report this person. I do why.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Because I actually have been a retail manager for a
multitude of years, and I will tell you whenever someone continuously,
you know, they get away with something and then they
continue to potentially steal, HR sends out an email, chances
are there's something else that they're doing wrong. What else
(14:30):
is missing? You never know with an individual, So it
could very well potentially be I don't know what company
this is. Maybe some other funds are going missing.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, I do hate to say that because it could
be and again I'm reaching here, but it could be
a slippery slope. And I don't know how much money
this represents to the company, this benefit they're providing. But
if you were to say this guy was stealing one
hundred bucks a day from the company or fifty bucks
a day, that right there, I think would resonate differently
with people. I think if you were to say this
(15:01):
dude's siphoning off fifty bucks a day secretly from the company,
and then it turns out to pay for these kids' food,
that's a noble cause. But the money, I think immediately
would be oh, terminate him, fire him. Done. Well, he
kind of is stealing money from the company, but in
the form of food, right, So why is one okay
and the other one wouldn't be okay? Because I bet
(15:22):
you if you had said he's stealing fifty bucks a day,
one hundred percent of people would call up here and say, well,
you can't do that, right, And that's kind of what he's.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Doing, Tiana exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, thank you so much, have a good day.
Speaker 10 (15:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I wanted to say, I love you guys, thank.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You so much, thank you, love you too, have a
good day. And then like, I don't know. Again, I
think I would do my best to stay out of
it because I really don't like conflict and drama. And
I don't want to be bad. But then what if
you're on camera watching this. Okay, I know I'm reaching again,
but like you know, Devil's advocate here, what if they
look into this and they see you're standing there too,
and you didn't say anything?
Speaker 9 (15:59):
Right?
Speaker 10 (16:00):
You know?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
We have to take that stupid training every year where
it's like basically we're supposed to turn everybody in that
we see do anything that I was supposed to be doing. Like,
if we see somebody, you know, breaking company policy, we're
supposed to tell the company about it.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Right, Because now I can't get a raise because you
took seven sandwiches every day. That's why I can't get
because you need paper. It's your printer at home. So
Jason walking out of here with four bundles of paper
every day?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yes, you know that is crazy? You got that? Might yeah,
you're not a free postage I've gotten out of this
place over the years. Might be the reason why none
of us have gotten raised. It's never mind. I'm going
to terminate myself.
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