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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Order a Fresh Show. It's all right, the honorable is here.
Yeah yeah, Judge Kik, your honor take it away.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, let's step into the court room. The gavel
has been hit and for our new friends. If you
ever want to send a case, you can hit me
up on Instagram at on air Kiki and Fresh Show Radio.
Let's get into it, it says Heiki Key. My name
is Dan. I'm a new listener and I love the show.
I've been a single dad for three years. And then,
(00:30):
don't try to persuade this, Okay, I'm a single dad
for three years now after my wife ran off with
another man. However, raising my girls has been the joy
of my life until recently because I'm having a big
issue with my daughter's teacher. A few months ago, I
stopped my daughters from wearing deodorant and using body wash
because of the chemicals. Well, just last week, I noticed
(00:53):
that my seventh grader kept coming home smelling like a
floral garden. I did some investigating and found a travel
bag of no I found a travel a bag of
travel sized toilet tries.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
In her backpack.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
When I asked her about it, she said that her
teacher gave her what she called a smell good bag.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I was livid.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I called the teacher to remind her that I am
the father. I am the parent, and given my child
theodorant is extremely inappropriate. The teacher told me that my
child's body odor was distracting to the other students and
the only other option is to move her desk in
the hallway away from the other kids. Ki ki, I
want this teacher fired immediately. And then he goes on
(01:37):
to list her name and the school, which I won't
read on air.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Wow? A smell good bag?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
A smell good bag?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Damn yeah, Dad, anybody ever handed me a smell good bag?
I would just crumble into a pile of nothing. Oh yeah, yeah,
I would just cease to exist. My god, you never
see me again. The person who handed me said smell
good bag. I would change my name and move to
a foreign country and where the nosed classes mustache combination
(02:07):
from now on so that nobody knew is me?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Judge Kinky? What say you?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Welcome to the family. First of all, welcome to the family,
and we love you.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, However, you cannot send your kid to school smelling
like funk Master flet okay, because you have just decided
on a Tuesday to boycott deodorant, like, there has to
be another alternative, you know what I'm saying, There has
to be another option. I don't like to sit. Teachers
are already underpaid. You want her, your teacher, to sit
(02:37):
in the class with a kid that is smelling it
up in here. And then she tried to be helpful,
I think, by giving her a little bag of toilet trees.
And I don't think the teacher is wrong in this scenario,
because what do you want her to do?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well, we talk about this all the time. First of all,
I do think she probably should have talked to the
dad ahead of time. Oh you don't before given any
kind of product, you can see that. But at the
same time, we talk about how teachers do so much
more these days than just than just teaching, you know,
and a lot of ways they're sadly, uh doing duties
(03:14):
that parents should be doing, and so well, I think
there should have been at least an attempt at a conversation,
you know. I think the teacher was probably just trying
to be helpful, you know, because unfortunately there are a
lot of negligent parents out there. Now I'm not I'm
not saying he is, which is which is great, right,
which is why you would want to have that conversation
with the parent to assess, Okay, is this person just
(03:35):
unaware of what's going on with his child? Is this
person what's going on here? Because if it's like, oh,
I don't know, I don't care, well, then maybe you
need to intervene, sadly, But in this case, it was
more like, Hey, the conversation would have gone, I'm not
giving my daughter X y Z because I think it's
bad for her or son or whatever. So and then maybe, Okay,
(03:57):
now we have a problem. We need to figure out
an alternative, right, like you work it out together, at
least you try to, because I would imagine the teachers
can tell pretty quickly which parents are engaged in which
parents are not.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Absolutely, and I'm just assuming here that the seventh grader
probably went to school and probably wants to wear deodorant
or wants to wear smell good because you know you
don't want these other kids may be teasing you or
being mean to you. So maybe that's why she didn't
tell her dad or communicated with her dad.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
But for sure, feel so bad.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
I can't blame the teacher because, like we talked about,
I'm sure they can recognize like which students might need
like certain items, and I believe they're consider mandated reporters.
So I think that also means like if they feel
like a student's being neglected, I know they have to
report that. But sometimes there's budgets within the school system
that I hear about that do provide like bathing items
like for audiodorants or lotions and stuff like that, and
(04:49):
body wash which you can hand them to the kids discreetly,
you know what I mean. And I think that helps
a lot of students unfortunately that you know that do
need it.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And I think I'm really really happy that that's provided.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
So maybe it was something like that when the teacher
wasn't sure, although I do agree maybe a conversation first
is a great place to start.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Right, Yeah, So you can't necessarily give a child food
or you know, hygiene products or medicine or something like that.
You wouldn't do that, right unless you've spoken to the
parents first, And I guess you know, if there have
to be probably social workers, it's people who could intervene.
So it's like, you know, maybe you go to the
parents say hey, this is the issue, and the parents said,
oh my gosh, let's figure out a solution. And here's
(05:27):
the reason why I think this is happening versus I
don't know, I don't care, or if the parents unreachable
or something.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
There's got to be another way.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, but I think everybody here was was well intended.
Hey Amber, yes, him, good morning, Good morning, eight five
five three five, you're the jury.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
What say you?
Speaker 7 (05:48):
So?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
I have three late teens early twenties kids, and I
have to say I think the father should talk to
his daughter. She has to have her choice right and
her body her choice. That's what I tell my kids.
You know, they can do whatever they want with their hair.
They can do they could, they could wear yodorant. I mean,
if they didn't want to wear yodorant, I'd probably have
(06:10):
to have a conversation with them. But you know, it
is their body and they need to learn that and
they and so he should really be talking with his
daughter because she's twelve. You know, they don't become independent
young people and making good choices overnight. So he needs
to start having conversation with.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
His daughter when And I'm not a parent, and or
when do you When does that transition take place where
it's it's your body, your choice, when you go from
being you know, needing parental permission or needing that influence,
to then be able to say no, it's twelve years old,
when you can say I want to use these products
because I don't care about the repercussion.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I don't know the answer.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I think it's gradual, right, So when they're little, they can.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Choose their clothes.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
When they get older, they can choose their hair. Anything
that's not permanent. I tell my kids before eighteen, you
can do whatever you want with your your hair. You
want to diet, you want to cut it, you want
to shave it, have at it. If you want piercings,
that's a different thing. So you're going to have to
wait until you're eighteen because that's more of a permanent choice.
(07:11):
And while I still believe that it's their body, their
choice for tattoos or piercings, that's the kind of thing
that I think you don't really understand what permanent means
until you're older.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
So I feel like they.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Need to be at a point where they can legally
choose for themselves.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I think it's while the teacher was doing tattoos and piercings.
That's crazy for it. I mean, that's that's crazy. That's
I mean that to me, that's a little much. But
you know, thank you, An have a great day.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
Thank you too.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah, I mean, Aaron, how you doing.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I'm all right with you.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Hey, good morning, welcome Geeky's Court. What say you?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So?
Speaker 8 (07:49):
I just wanted to make the point that everybody's saying,
you know, you should reach out to this dead, but
this dead is also putting this teecher on blast right
now and thing to get her because the teacher did
something nice for the kid, so he might not be
the most approachable parent to talk to.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Good point, Okay, all right, because so cause he reached
out to Keiki's court, and because we're talking about this
now on the radio, it's like, well, that's not necessarily
the thing you would do if you were a regional
I don't know this person, but what you're saying is
this isn't necessarily the way that you would react if
you if you were interpreting the message appropriately.
Speaker 9 (08:27):
Yeah, yeah, because why would the dad not just assume
positive intent, like oh shoot that I got to do
something about my kid, and this teacher was trying to help.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Aaron, thank you. Have a good day
you too, well, I know, without getting too much into it.
I also have a question about so you said that
it's his daughter, but the mom is not present.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, the mom is not in the picture. So he's
a single father.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I have.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I have at least one friend whose wife passed away
when they had a young daughter, and I often kind
of wondered, and I never asked the question, but like,
is it possible that he doesn't Maybe, And again, I
don't know this guy. I'm not I'm not saying anything
negative about him, but maybe there needs to be a
female influence involved here because and maybe, and maybe that's
what the teacher was trying to do, because I know
(09:13):
that's a very tenuous age and there's transition going on,
and there are things that are probably happening that he
doesn't understand as a man. Right And it doesn't there's
nothing wrong with that. It's not his fault. Yeah, but like,
you know, maybe maybe there does need to be a
female influence saying hey, dad, you know, we need to
think about this and that and the other thing, because
these things are happening, And how as a man would
(09:34):
I know if I didn't have someone sort of consulting
me on how to how to approach that with my daughter, right, Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
That would be helpful to him.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But I also think if you just make this decision
to sing your child to school with no deodorant and
no fragrance, you know you should discuss that with her
teachers because there is a change in body odor and
the teacher is not wrong for trying to help the
situation and stop her from distracting the other kids, I
mean getting bullied potentially, right, that is, you know, it's
hard being in middle school and all kind of stuff
(10:03):
is happening to your body, right, you know, And it's
like you can't just make those decisions for her without
like having a plan.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, And is it Shanita or Shanta?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Shanta? How you doing?
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I'm good?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
How are you very well? What do you want to say?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Okay, So this dad, he's completely out of line. You
have to think about it. These are girls, and he's
talking about one is in seventh grade. That's when your
hormones are changing and kids are very cruel, So you
have to think it's maybe they're getting bullied or talked
about at school. And it's plenty products out here that
(10:39):
don't have the harsh chemicals in them that some do.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
She runs helves down with a tree every day and
she feels fun.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Rarely. Do I have an odor issue with kaylor snubby coming?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Yeah, I think the dad should have probably looked into
this a little more and investigated other options before just
making a drastic change for the girls.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I think there's a misunderstanding here maybe or maybe just
I don't know, because there are your point, there are
alternative products. If his concern is about you know, metals
or whatever people are concerned about, then there.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Are others or the there are other options.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
It's it's a little bigger than that than just I
don't want my kid to use X y Z, Like
we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Have to come up with an alternative of that. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Yeah, and these are girls, like you can't just up
and do that.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (11:32):
And I also think that the girls need to make
the choice if they want that specific deorder when they
get of age to make that choice. You know, you
have a duty right now to like protect your kids
or whatever. You can't you can't decide that for them
the whole natural dedan thing.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, it's a good point. Thank you, have a great day.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Glad you called Kiki's court. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So this this dad is writing in because his twelve
year old daughter he doesn't want her using you know,
different fragrances and de orderance because he thinks that they're
bad for her. And yet apparently at school she doesn't
smell very good, and the teacher intervene and gave the
daughter some products to smell better at school. I think
trying to be I assume trying to be helpful for
(12:11):
a lot of other reasons. And the dad's upset because
you're not going to give my kid. You know, you
don't get my kids stuff for their body, for her
body in this case without talking to me about it first,
which I also understand.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Hey Nicole, yes, hi, good morning. What do you want
to saying? I love you guys, love you too, thank you.
Speaker 11 (12:30):
But I disagree this time, and I just sure because
I feel like the teacher. I mean, yes, seventh grade
is hard. Chemicals are bad though, and there are other
types of deyodorants that they could use, but they don't
have the smells that other deyodorans have to make you
(12:51):
smell better, but they do work against bo And I
think the teacher giving her a smell good beat is
telling her she's smells bad, but there's a better way
to say that, and that could also affect the girl's
you know s image and whatnot. And so I feel
like a smell good bag. I just don't like how
(13:13):
she she used.
Speaker 12 (13:15):
That language, or you know, she could have given her
a hygiene bag and talked to her about it and
use different words and so, and it sounds like the
father said.
Speaker 11 (13:26):
It's come she's come home a couple of times.
Speaker 12 (13:28):
And like he's tried to tell the girl not to
do it and she's still doing it. So he's frustrated
with the teacher, which is again something him and his
daughter should talk about. But I also feel like the
teacher went.
Speaker 11 (13:38):
A little overboard there.
Speaker 12 (13:40):
And I don't like the terminology used there of a
smell good bag, because that's also telling her like she's
she smells bad and she doesn't deserve to be around everyone,
and so there's there's a there's a middle ground here,
But I just I really feel like he has good
intentions and while she has good intentions.
Speaker 11 (14:00):
You really go through the father, not through the daughter.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, I think that makes sense. I think there's a
compromise here for sure. Thank you, Nicole, Thank you, have
a good day. Glad you called. Okay, So case not closed,
problem not solved, not at all.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Hit but the teachers that deal with all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And that's what I'm saying too. It's like you guys
are managing so much stuff. The entertainment report in two minutes,
Fred Show
Order a Fresh Show. It's all right, the honorable is here.
Yeah yeah, Judge Kik, your honor take it away.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, let's step into the court room. The gavel
has been hit and for our new friends. If you
ever want to send a case, you can hit me
up on Instagram at on air Kiki and Fresh Show Radio.
Let's get into it, it says Heiki Key. My name
is Dan. I'm a new listener and I love the show.
I've been a single dad for three years. And then,
(00:30):
don't try to persuade this, Okay, I'm a single dad
for three years now after my wife ran off with
another man. However, raising my girls has been the joy
of my life until recently because I'm having a big
issue with my daughter's teacher. A few months ago, I
stopped my daughters from wearing deodorant and using body wash
because of the chemicals. Well, just last week, I noticed
(00:53):
that my seventh grader kept coming home smelling like a
floral garden. I did some investigating and found a travel
bag of no I found a travel a bag of
travel sized toilet tries.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
In her backpack.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
When I asked her about it, she said that her
teacher gave her what she called a smell good bag.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I was livid.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I called the teacher to remind her that I am
the father. I am the parent, and given my child
theodorant is extremely inappropriate. The teacher told me that my
child's body odor was distracting to the other students and
the only other option is to move her desk in
the hallway away from the other kids. Ki ki, I
want this teacher fired immediately. And then he goes on
(01:37):
to list her name and the school, which I won't
read on air.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Wow? A smell good bag?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
A smell good bag?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Damn yeah, Dad, anybody ever handed me a smell good bag?
I would just crumble into a pile of nothing. Oh yeah, yeah,
I would just cease to exist. My god, you never
see me again. The person who handed me said smell
good bag. I would change my name and move to
a foreign country and where the nosed classes mustache combination
(02:07):
from now on so that nobody knew is me?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Judge Kinky? What say you?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Welcome to the family. First of all, welcome to the family,
and we love you.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, However, you cannot send your kid to school smelling
like funk Master flet okay, because you have just decided
on a Tuesday to boycott deodorant, like, there has to
be another alternative, you know what I'm saying, There has
to be another option. I don't like to sit. Teachers
are already underpaid. You want her, your teacher, to sit
(02:37):
in the class with a kid that is smelling it
up in here. And then she tried to be helpful,
I think, by giving her a little bag of toilet trees.
And I don't think the teacher is wrong in this scenario,
because what do you want her to do?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well, we talk about this all the time. First of all,
I do think she probably should have talked to the
dad ahead of time. Oh you don't before given any
kind of product, you can see that. But at the
same time, we talk about how teachers do so much
more these days than just than just teaching, you know,
and a lot of ways they're sadly, uh doing duties
(03:14):
that parents should be doing, and so well, I think
there should have been at least an attempt at a conversation,
you know. I think the teacher was probably just trying
to be helpful, you know, because unfortunately there are a
lot of negligent parents out there. Now I'm not I'm
not saying he is, which is which is great, right,
which is why you would want to have that conversation
with the parent to assess, Okay, is this person just
(03:35):
unaware of what's going on with his child? Is this
person what's going on here? Because if it's like, oh,
I don't know, I don't care, well, then maybe you
need to intervene, sadly, But in this case, it was
more like, Hey, the conversation would have gone, I'm not
giving my daughter X y Z because I think it's
bad for her or son or whatever. So and then maybe, Okay,
(03:57):
now we have a problem. We need to figure out
an alternative, right, like you work it out together, at
least you try to, because I would imagine the teachers
can tell pretty quickly which parents are engaged in which
parents are not.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Absolutely, and I'm just assuming here that the seventh grader
probably went to school and probably wants to wear deodorant
or wants to wear smell good because you know you
don't want these other kids may be teasing you or
being mean to you. So maybe that's why she didn't
tell her dad or communicated with her dad.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
But for sure, feel so bad.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
I can't blame the teacher because, like we talked about,
I'm sure they can recognize like which students might need
like certain items, and I believe they're consider mandated reporters.
So I think that also means like if they feel
like a student's being neglected, I know they have to
report that. But sometimes there's budgets within the school system
that I hear about that do provide like bathing items
like for audiodorants or lotions and stuff like that, and
(04:49):
body wash which you can hand them to the kids discreetly,
you know what I mean. And I think that helps
a lot of students unfortunately that you know that do
need it.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And I think I'm really really happy that that's provided.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
So maybe it was something like that when the teacher
wasn't sure, although I do agree maybe a conversation first
is a great place to start.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Right, Yeah, So you can't necessarily give a child food
or you know, hygiene products or medicine or something like that.
You wouldn't do that, right unless you've spoken to the
parents first, And I guess you know, if there have
to be probably social workers, it's people who could intervene.
So it's like, you know, maybe you go to the
parents say hey, this is the issue, and the parents said,
oh my gosh, let's figure out a solution. And here's
(05:27):
the reason why I think this is happening versus I
don't know, I don't care, or if the parents unreachable
or something.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
There's got to be another way.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, but I think everybody here was was well intended.
Hey Amber, yes, him, good morning, Good morning, eight five
five three five, you're the jury.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
What say you?
Speaker 7 (05:48):
So?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
I have three late teens early twenties kids, and I
have to say I think the father should talk to
his daughter. She has to have her choice right and
her body her choice. That's what I tell my kids.
You know, they can do whatever they want with their hair.
They can do they could, they could wear yodorant. I mean,
if they didn't want to wear yodorant, I'd probably have
(06:10):
to have a conversation with them. But you know, it
is their body and they need to learn that and
they and so he should really be talking with his
daughter because she's twelve. You know, they don't become independent
young people and making good choices overnight. So he needs
to start having conversation with.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
His daughter when And I'm not a parent, and or
when do you When does that transition take place where
it's it's your body, your choice, when you go from
being you know, needing parental permission or needing that influence,
to then be able to say no, it's twelve years old,
when you can say I want to use these products
because I don't care about the repercussion.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I don't know the answer.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I think it's gradual, right, So when they're little, they can.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Choose their clothes.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
When they get older, they can choose their hair. Anything
that's not permanent. I tell my kids before eighteen, you
can do whatever you want with your your hair. You
want to diet, you want to cut it, you want
to shave it, have at it. If you want piercings,
that's a different thing. So you're going to have to
wait until you're eighteen because that's more of a permanent choice.
(07:11):
And while I still believe that it's their body, their
choice for tattoos or piercings, that's the kind of thing
that I think you don't really understand what permanent means
until you're older.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
So I feel like they.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Need to be at a point where they can legally
choose for themselves.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I think it's while the teacher was doing tattoos and piercings.
That's crazy for it. I mean, that's that's crazy. That's
I mean that to me, that's a little much. But
you know, thank you, An have a great day.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
Thank you too.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah, I mean, Aaron, how you doing.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I'm all right with you.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Hey, good morning, welcome Geeky's Court. What say you?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So?
Speaker 8 (07:49):
I just wanted to make the point that everybody's saying,
you know, you should reach out to this dead, but
this dead is also putting this teecher on blast right
now and thing to get her because the teacher did
something nice for the kid, so he might not be
the most approachable parent to talk to.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Good point, Okay, all right, because so cause he reached
out to Keiki's court, and because we're talking about this
now on the radio, it's like, well, that's not necessarily
the thing you would do if you were a regional
I don't know this person, but what you're saying is
this isn't necessarily the way that you would react if
you if you were interpreting the message appropriately.
Speaker 9 (08:27):
Yeah, yeah, because why would the dad not just assume
positive intent, like oh shoot that I got to do
something about my kid, and this teacher was trying to help.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Aaron, thank you. Have a good day
you too, well, I know, without getting too much into it.
I also have a question about so you said that
it's his daughter, but the mom is not present.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, the mom is not in the picture. So he's
a single father.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I have.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I have at least one friend whose wife passed away
when they had a young daughter, and I often kind
of wondered, and I never asked the question, but like,
is it possible that he doesn't Maybe, And again, I
don't know this guy. I'm not I'm not saying anything
negative about him, but maybe there needs to be a
female influence involved here because and maybe, and maybe that's
what the teacher was trying to do, because I know
(09:13):
that's a very tenuous age and there's transition going on,
and there are things that are probably happening that he
doesn't understand as a man. Right And it doesn't there's
nothing wrong with that. It's not his fault. Yeah, but like,
you know, maybe maybe there does need to be a
female influence saying hey, dad, you know, we need to
think about this and that and the other thing, because
these things are happening, And how as a man would
(09:34):
I know if I didn't have someone sort of consulting
me on how to how to approach that with my daughter, right, Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
That would be helpful to him.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But I also think if you just make this decision
to sing your child to school with no deodorant and
no fragrance, you know you should discuss that with her
teachers because there is a change in body odor and
the teacher is not wrong for trying to help the
situation and stop her from distracting the other kids, I
mean getting bullied potentially, right, that is, you know, it's
hard being in middle school and all kind of stuff
(10:03):
is happening to your body, right, you know, And it's
like you can't just make those decisions for her without
like having a plan.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, And is it Shanita or Shanta?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Shanta? How you doing?
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I'm good?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
How are you very well? What do you want to say?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Okay, So this dad, he's completely out of line. You
have to think about it. These are girls, and he's
talking about one is in seventh grade. That's when your
hormones are changing and kids are very cruel, So you
have to think it's maybe they're getting bullied or talked
about at school. And it's plenty products out here that
(10:39):
don't have the harsh chemicals in them that some do.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
She runs helves down with a tree every day and
she feels fun.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Rarely. Do I have an odor issue with kaylor snubby coming?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Yeah, I think the dad should have probably looked into
this a little more and investigated other options before just
making a drastic change for the girls.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I think there's a misunderstanding here maybe or maybe just
I don't know, because there are your point, there are
alternative products. If his concern is about you know, metals
or whatever people are concerned about, then there.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Are others or the there are other options.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
It's it's a little bigger than that than just I
don't want my kid to use X y Z, Like
we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Have to come up with an alternative of that. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Yeah, and these are girls, like you can't just up
and do that.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (11:32):
And I also think that the girls need to make
the choice if they want that specific deorder when they
get of age to make that choice. You know, you
have a duty right now to like protect your kids
or whatever. You can't you can't decide that for them
the whole natural dedan thing.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, it's a good point. Thank you, have a great day.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Glad you called Kiki's court. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So this this dad is writing in because his twelve
year old daughter he doesn't want her using you know,
different fragrances and de orderance because he thinks that they're
bad for her. And yet apparently at school she doesn't
smell very good, and the teacher intervene and gave the
daughter some products to smell better at school. I think
trying to be I assume trying to be helpful for
(12:11):
a lot of other reasons. And the dad's upset because
you're not going to give my kid. You know, you
don't get my kids stuff for their body, for her
body in this case without talking to me about it first,
which I also understand.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Hey Nicole, yes, hi, good morning. What do you want
to saying? I love you guys, love you too, thank you.
Speaker 11 (12:30):
But I disagree this time, and I just sure because
I feel like the teacher. I mean, yes, seventh grade
is hard. Chemicals are bad though, and there are other
types of deyodorants that they could use, but they don't
have the smells that other deyodorans have to make you
(12:51):
smell better, but they do work against bo And I
think the teacher giving her a smell good beat is
telling her she's smells bad, but there's a better way
to say that, and that could also affect the girl's
you know s image and whatnot. And so I feel
like a smell good bag. I just don't like how
(13:13):
she she used.
Speaker 12 (13:15):
That language, or you know, she could have given her
a hygiene bag and talked to her about it and
use different words and so, and it sounds like the
father said.
Speaker 11 (13:26):
It's come she's come home a couple of times.
Speaker 12 (13:28):
And like he's tried to tell the girl not to
do it and she's still doing it. So he's frustrated
with the teacher, which is again something him and his
daughter should talk about. But I also feel like the
teacher went.
Speaker 11 (13:38):
A little overboard there.
Speaker 12 (13:40):
And I don't like the terminology used there of a
smell good bag, because that's also telling her like she's
she smells bad and she doesn't deserve to be around everyone,
and so there's there's a there's a middle ground here,
But I just I really feel like he has good
intentions and while she has good intentions.
Speaker 11 (14:00):
You really go through the father, not through the daughter.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, I think that makes sense. I think there's a
compromise here for sure. Thank you, Nicole, Thank you, have
a good day. Glad you called. Okay, So case not closed,
problem not solved, not at all.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Hit but the teachers that deal with all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And that's what I'm saying too. It's like you guys
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