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to the airplanes. Now we're back on an airplane, and
there's a Brazilian woman who is suing an airline because
her experience being filmed not giving up her seat to
a child has apparently affected her life negatively.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So here's the story.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Amaan bankwerker who refused to swap seats for the crime
toddlot on a flight is now see in the airline
and the passenger who filmed her The viral spot unfolded
on a Gold Airline flight from Brier to Genero to
Beta Juzante on December fourth.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I have no idea where any of those places are December,
I'm assuming in Brazil, but she did a bunch of
places where just mentioned that I cannot spot on a map.
I have to be honest with you, so that doesn't
really matter. But they were on a plane in Brazil,
on the Brazilian Airline.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Io A CATTR. She used to give up her window
seat to a young boy.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
The child reported he had a window seat in another row,
but insisted on sitting in Jennifer's sport and began drawing
a fit when he didn't get what he wanted. After
she declined up boarding, passenger whipped out her phone and
began recording the exchange.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So he had The kid had a window seat in
another part of the airplane I guess, another row, and
he didn't want that window seat. He wanted her window
seat that she paid for. She paid for an upgrade
of this window seat, I guess. So she gets on
the plane, the kid is in her seat, the father's
across the aisle. The father says he's gonna sit there.
You take the aisle. You can take an aisle seat,
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which I guess was his original seat. So apparently maybe
they both wanted different seats.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
All I know is the child had a window seat
somewhere else, but he wanted her window seat that she
had already paid for, and then she was being offered
an aisle and then she said, I don't know how
that happened, but she said no, I want my seat.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
The kid then cried the whole trip.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And then another person decides she's not even involved with
all this, to film her and then turn her into
this villain and then that goes viral and it's affected
her life negatively, and so she's suing I guess I
don't know the airline. I'm not sure who else she's
suing here, and so the debate has become.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
This.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
This is in the article from Times of India. The
reservice clip has reached out in a familiar argument about planetiquette,
entitlement and who owes what to whom in cramp public spaces. This,
for her, she says, is not about parenting your courtesy.
It's about boundaries. I believe that we should respect people's
choices and decisions, especially when they're within their rights. It's
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essential to normalize no and understand no one should be
forced to justify something that they simply don't want to do.
She also hopes the case will send a message about
the casual way that strangers now reach for their phones.
No one deserves to go what I went through, being filmed, insulted,
and attacked for exercising a basic right. So that's the question.
Eight five five, five nine one one h three five
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Collin text the same number. I mean, I kind of
agree with her, like, she very easily could have put
this whole thing to bed, and there would have been
no issue if she'd just taken whatever seat two other
people decided she should have, and then she goes to
her destination and nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
But she hadn't have to do that, that's right. No,
she didn't have to.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Do that simply because two other people decided that's what
they want to do. And then someone else pulls out
a phone in an effort to essentially bully this person,
who I can I have to imagine didn't know the
whole story, because I would imagine the person filming if
their seat had been taken that they paid for, they
might not have been very happy about that either. So
I mean an other thing was the kid had what
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the kid wanted. The kid just wanted that, and the
parent was unwilling to sort of use that as an
opportunity to say, hey, you can't have that. So I
don't know that anybody was served here, but I'm sure
there are people out there saying, well, she should have
just sat where she was told to sit. But I
think that's kind of what the point of this is
and what's becoming of the world is, like people are
just so afraid of confrontation, and on the other side,
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people are so entitled to what they think they should
have right now, and the information they think they should
have and the location they think they should have in
the access think so then so now you've got really
this woman, I have to say, I think she's kind
of a victim in all of this, Like she didn't
do anything wrong, and yet she's made out to be
the bad person because someone's got a camera and someone
has decided that the rules won't apply to them, right,
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I mean, is there any other side of this? I
mean again, could she have just sat where she was
told to sit and none of this happens? Yeah, But
I mean if the whole world does that every single time,
then I mean we can't.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
We can't be in this place.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
But it's true, like anytime anyone's nappy now the phone
comes out right or get right, or they get online
and they and they start writing nasty reviews about stuff.
And now I don't know what to believe, you know,
I don't, I don't know. You never know, Like you
really had to dig into that story, because if I
first saw that video, then I think that the story
that the person was trying to portray was that this
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lady basically just denied the child. It's you know, his
windows seat. That's yeah, which is now what happened.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Two sides to every story, and the kid already had
to see, like you mentionedryu everything was fine.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
There was no like dire emergency situation here.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I don't not seeing one, So like, why do I
have to rearrange my plan here because of your poor planning?
I know the kid wanted this, but I think what
you said Fried was very true. We cannot show the
kid you can get what you want when you want that.
It's not how life works, especially in an airplane with
one hundred other people or yeah, an airplane where I
purchased a seat.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Sorry sorry, kid, Well it's like this stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
You know, we're talking about a real human being here,
Like this woman has a name and a face and
a job, and I got to imagine when this all
comes out and goes viral. And I'm sure if I
dig into this story, there's something like there's something like
this in the story somewhere where like she goes back
to work and the company is probably like, we didn't
want this exposure because now we figured out her face,
and then someone will identify her name.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You always do, and then somebody will go to her yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Her LinkedIn, and then somebody will start writing to the company,
and it's like, wait a minute, this is all over
a woman who wanted to sit in the seat that
she purchased, purchased and wanted to.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Sit in because she was mad. She didn't get her way.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Because the kid was the guy was yeah, no she was,
she'd yeah, no, it was it was the other people.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Okay, sorry, I got there.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It was the other people. But hey, Zen, how you doing.
You say your parents the parents had the problem.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Yeah, And like as a teacher is a parent looking
at other kids out in the world, like these kids
these days, they just get what they want to get
what they want, get what they want at no point
in time or parents taking into consideration other people or
anything else that's going around in the environment they're in
and it's actually find itself to watch. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And I'm sure there are situations where people can be kind,
you know, and it's different.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
This is different.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I mean, but again, it was an assigned seat, she
paid for it, and I think it's more it's could
she have moved, Yes, but I think it's more the
issue of someone else was making these decisions for her
based on on their needs, and so why aren't why
wouldn't her news have been considered in this.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Yeah, And like she wasn't even on a plane yet,
and you're telling this kid they can do whatever they want. No, Yeah,
that's not how this works.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, I agree, Thank you, Dan, have a good day.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, I mean that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And look, I think that this kind of action has
been used in good ways. People are discriminated against, you know,
businesses or mistreating people. People are being scammed, people are
acting out people. I mean, you see this all the time.
I hate cancel culture. But like, if you're in public, right, like,
if you're acting this way, you can't believe, you can't
possibly believe in twenty twenty five that you could act
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in a racist or sexist or disgusting way and not
be called out for it, Like, come on, this is
there's checks and balances, and I think the internet can
be used for that. But at the same time, I
went to a restaurant the other night and it was
near the hotel where I was staying, and and it got.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Pretty good reviews.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
But there were a number of reviews saying the service,
the food was okay, the service, tux service, tux service.
I went to, the service was amazing and to the
point where I and the food was great, to a
point where you'ven asked, did you guys like change ownership
or something, and they're like no, but we know about
the reviews or people say their service isn't good, and
like we really don't understand why somebody went in there
and you know, or a couple of people are a
disgruntled employee or who knows who it was like, or
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maybe they stepped up. I don't know, but like the
bottom line is, anyone can say anything. And there was
a chance that I wouldn't have gone to that restaurant
thinking that they were doing a bad job when I
don't see a world where they were because everybody was
so kind and like went out of their way, don't.
I don't know where that culture just emerges.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
There's got to be a new system for reviews.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
I wrote this like as a note to talk about
on the show, Like there should be some sort of
like background check or something, because if you didn't like
I've been looking for, like specifically a non toxic air fryer.
I don't know if they exist, but anyways, reading all
the reviews, like people have such opposite experiences and then
you read down a one star I didn't like the
Shade of Green, I got like you should not be
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allowed to leave that as a review about the product.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It's sad.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You should have to put your name, your face, like,
like make them authentic.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You should.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You should have to prove that you own the product,
like I honestly, there should be some skin in the
game for the people. And I feel the same way
about commenters, you know, people on the internet, Like the
amount of stuff I've read the last year on the
internet that is just absolutely untrue. All you have to
do is just write it and it's fact, and then
and then your comments are fact too, because and then
what you find is like sometimes if you go into
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comments and read like the narrative becomes whatever other people wrote,
it's fake, and then people are mad about the fake thing,
and then before long it's like, this is all this
outrage about, and no one really knows what actually happened
and what the real truth is. But these are you know,
oftentimes you're associating this stuff with real human beings, and
that have it has negative impact, and sometimes the real
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human beings didn't do anything wrong. Amanda High, Hi, Hey,
so you're a teacher and you think this is about
about how we how we're teaching kids?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Really?
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, I think they need to hear no and
it's okay that they don't get everything they want.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, I mean, do you see this? What the hell
of the kids you teach six and seven? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And do you see this? Like our parents afraid to
tell their kids no? I mean, are you do we
have any faith in the future generation?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Should we?
Speaker 8 (10:12):
I That's a really good question that I don't have
any answer to. And I think parents are not telling
their kids no, and it really affects then teaching and
just then them becoming, like you said, our future generation.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
A man as a teacher or because of that, like,
if parents are not disciplining their kids and telling them
no and just giving them what they want, is there
any part of you then that says I'm not going
to do it either, because I don't I don't want
the backlash, I don't want the parent. I don't want
my job affected by this because I would imagine if
you say no to a kid, even if you're right,
and it's the wrong kid and the wrong parent, then
before long you've got a problem.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, that's why I am leaving education. See, this is
exactly what I mean. Like, this is a man.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Is probably someone who is an amazing teacher and should
be teaching, but doesn't want to deal with it because
we're not being real Yeah, fair and healthy way right,
Like I'm not talking about trust me. There's a lot
of scumbags out there, and I think technology exposes that.
But here you are. You try to do a good
thing and you don't want to deal with it anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Exactly. Yeah, thank you a man to have a good day.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I'm sure there are coaches that don't want to coach
anymore because they don't want to deal with the parents.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I'm sure that.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I mean, look at it, O there're people that will
probably be great politicians that are not going to beat
politicians because they don't want it. Because even you're never
gonna make anybody happy. So why bother? Why would I?
I could, I could help the world, But why bother?
Because someone gets on the internet and says I'm terrible,
and then you know, yeah, wild.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
I break out one comment about me because I want
to run for politics when they we talked about this
with one of your friends who's in politics, and I
won't do it now.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well, he's perfect for it because he simply doesn't care
what anybody. He's a great politics. He's a great politician,
but he's just I think. I think that negativity fuels
him and pumps him up.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I am not that. I'm not that guy right talk
to me. Yeah, not that guy. Make me? You make
me cry. But for different reasons.