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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm reading your Morality Monday that you sent morality Morality,
Morality Monday that you sendbodies. I know it's Wednesday, but
what we have here? Where's the original thing? Because there's
a lot of comments here. People are mad. Dear Abby.
I was shocked to eatr response to host it out.
This is a Dear Abbey Morality Monday who was frustrated

(00:20):
at having to host, feed, and entertain her husband's hunting
buddy and his wife several times a year. I grieve
you with your suggestion that she stay elsewhere while these
friends stay at her home so her husband will see
the light when he's the one doing the cooking and
the hosting. But then you made the comment that you
can't believe the friend's wife doesn't help with the cooking

(00:41):
and entertaining, and how lazy and insensitive she must be.
The apparently thatmic's Abby. So what's the story here, Paulina.
You sent this to me, so basically it said, let
me click on the original post. So it's a woman
who's tired to hosted her buddies.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Correct or her husband's buddy buddies.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
With cat Lady storing on it. Want that one? Okay?
Dear Abby, Dear Abby, dear friend. Well, I'm just a
straight stradup jackas uh? Is that still?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
By the way, Oh my god, it's like a famous commis,
isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
You've never heard of, dear Abby. No, Oh, it's kind
of like it. I don't know. It's from newspaper days,
I think. But people would write her and ask for advice.
This is before you had us, right, you know, this
is before you get in morning radio to help solve
all your problems.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
She was born in nineteen eighteen. No, that's her who
Pauline Esther Phillips. Hey are you girl? Also known as Abigail? Okay,
all right, anyway, thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, I appreciate that. So my husband is an outdoor
enthusiast and has a group of guys that he goes
hunting with every year. One of them has started coming
out west to vacation at our home twice a year
and now has followed us to our warm weather winter home.
Oh we have multiple homes, all right, an not feeling
bad for you. When he stays at our place, we
fix all the meals and he uses our washer, dryer

(01:59):
and urgent for several loads of laundry each time. He's
a longtime friend and brings his spouse, with whom I
get along well. But as time goes on, their visits
are becoming more frequent and longer in length. Always being
the host and entertaining makes me anxious. My husband can't
seem to understand what my issue is when I try
and talk with him about it. But I feel that
seeing these folks a couple times a year is more

(02:20):
than enough to keep the friendship going. How can I
get my husband to understand my side without ruining the friendship?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Abby died in twenty thirteen. By the way, it's a show, Abbey.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
The hell's who's writing this?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
It must have been It must be like how you
talk about when the show goes on, you know, after
someone passes old ones, or like I or somebody else's Abbey.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, it was like her daughter take it or something.
I don't know who the hell is you ask me that.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Now, I'll go find that rock.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Now you can still you can still write, and you
can still go to Dear Abbe dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Go to Abby Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, hold on. Dear Abby is written by Abigail Van Buren,
also known as Genie Phillips and was founded by her mum. Okayeah,
Pauline Phillips.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, there you go, that's what I was reading about.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Okay. Anyway, so what do you do? I don't know
about morality, all right, well let's make it immoral. I say,
you just kill him, Just kill him, killim may cake
him over anymore. I mean, I've never trying to make
this mean. What's the morality aspect to this?

Speaker 4 (03:17):
I think the morality aspect would be the husband getting
it together and if he wants his little buddies over,
then you do you handle it? I love that advice
that she gave of you going away. She goes to
her little like spa weekend whatever it might be, and
then he realizes how much work it is.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Hosting is a lot of work, Yes it is, and
I'm discovering that.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
And my mother in law, bless her heart, she hosts
every Sunday for her in laws, and I'm just like this,
a lot of people, a lot of food, a lot
of time.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, that's what Abbie said, or Abbie's daughter said, was
go get a hotel room. Basically, yes, I love your
husband has to assume all the responsibility for these freeloading friends.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
He'll see the light, see how quick he stops.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
And then she does also mention that it's lazy and
insensitive of the wife of the friend to let you
do all the work and be hosted not help. Yeah,
wait for the due Yeah, which I guess if you're
using somebody else, especially if you're not really if you're
inviting yourself, then I think the least you can do is,
you know, carry your own weight, right, I mean, like

(04:13):
offer to help out and that just sit around. I
mean I don't even care if you were invited by
someone else. If you're staying in someone's house, you should
help them, right Oh yeah, Oh, I mean like keep
your to keep your area clean and offer to help
with you know, whatever is going on, right, I mean
I don't if I stay at my friends at homes
or my sister's house, I don't expect to be waited on.
That's not part of the deal. So you got to

(04:35):
help out. So if you're if you're just showing up
and like, here's my laundry and where's the food, and
now let's go, I don't know, hunts for whatever we're
hunting for, Yeah, I don't. Yeah, no, I'm saying, let's
make key, let's make this immoral, Like I say, let's
this is this is this is far too uh plug

(04:56):
in for me. This is this is like yeah, get messy. Yeah,
I say, this is what you do. Okay, you put
a big pineapple flag out in front of your house,
so when your friends come growing up, it's like, oh,
and then when they ask it if they don't know
already what the pineapple means, and then when they ask, hey,
what's up with the pineapple? Or we're swingers and we're
having some folks over, but you know, part of the
deal is everybody has to sing here. I know. And

(05:18):
so maybe either they're gonna get excited and come to
stay more, or they're gonna be like, oh, not for us,
and they're gonna go stay at a hotel. Great idea, yeah, Kiki,
how would you handle this?

Speaker 5 (05:27):
The problem is I like the idea that she wants
to teach her husband or lesson by getting a hotel room.
The problem is I would be in my hotel room
pacing the floor having total anxiety because I don't like
when other people clean my house. I don't like when
other people do chores at my house. For some reason,
like I don't know. I don't like the feeling. I
feel like you're not going to do it right. I
feel like that's for me to do. So, Like even

(05:50):
though she wants to show him, to teach him a lesson,
I don't think she would get rest.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
You would still be worried about them people being in
your house. Good point.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, I don't think that my if I'm married, I
don't know that my friend's coming over a couple of
times a year to stay and hang out is that
big of a deal. But I gotta I gotta be
doing stuff like I gotta. I gotta be as involved
in this, or more involved in this than than than
my wife is. In entertaining my friends and you know whatever,
do whatever for cooking and cleaning and preparing. They're my friends, right,

(06:21):
So I can't. I can't just be like, hey, these
guys are coming, they're not gonna help. I'm not gonna help.
So you know, here you go figure it out. Yeah, host,
I have an adequate question. So if I I can't
ask five seconds.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Behind you, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah. The later, well, here, let me count to get
you caught up. Okay, when you stay at someone's house. Okay,
do you make it like when you leave. When you
leave the house, it's like your time to go to
the airport or whatever. You stayed at their house, you
slept in this bed for a couple of days or whatever.
I've heard two schools of thought. The first is every

(06:58):
like a piece of linen that you've touched, Strip it,
pile it up, put it on the bed so it's
like ready to be washed. Okay. My problem with that is, like,
as a person who I don't know, is I have
a little bit of OCD and anxiousness. Right if someone's
staying in my guest room that I don't have, and
then they just tear the place up in an effort
to help it so it's easier for me to clean,

(07:18):
I guess then it looks like crap until I immediately
fix it. Like now I have to go right in there.
If I'm gonna see this room and clean it and
fix it and make it better. What I usually do,
knowing that it's already gonna get cleaned anyway, is just
try and leave the room exactly as I found it,
Like make the bed, put it, make it perfect, so
at least that my host is not obligated to instantly

(07:41):
go straight in the room up.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I understand they still have to strip the bed and whatever,
but they're gonna have to do it anyway. They're gonna
have to go in there and undo everything anyway. So
I try and make it like perfect, like exactly the
way that I found it, because that way, you know,
that way, they don't feel like as soon as they leave, Okay,
now I got to go clean this room is all
messed up. What do you guys think? This is important?
These are important etiquet questions that we're tackling so early.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I always ask the host want me to do.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, because some people like that may bother you that
the room store up, but some people don't mind, and
they'd rather you have put it all in the laundry room,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
They don't want to strip the bed themselves.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
So I always ask the host, what would you like
me to do with the sheeps.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Because like, maybe I don't maybe maybe I don't feel
like doing it today, like I just had you over
all week. I don't feel like cleaning that room.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
But if you just left the room like that, though,
I messed up, Yeah, just messed up.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, no, that's wrong. Like if I'm staying at someone
oh forever.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Would it be okay to just leave it for a
night and then get to it tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah no, I but only if it's like, if it
looks presentable, if it's all torn up, then no, I
got to go in there and fix it. Yeah. No,
I couldn't just leave a disarray. No, it's a thing.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
No, I can't rest.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I couldn't. No, I wouldn't go right in there. I
don't know. It's it's it's it's the amy and me,
it's the mom and me. Like we come home from vacation,
doesn't matter if it's two in the morning with kids,
give me your laundry, really immediately, bags unpacked, Give me
your laundry. And my mom would be in there at
too in the morning, and she'd get a load going
because like she didn't want to wake up the next
day with a bag full of clothes and laundry and

(09:10):
all this stuff. It didn't matter. So now it doesn't
matter when I get home. If I get home at
two in the morning, bag gets unpacked, laundry goes in
or at least goes in the hamper. Because I don't
want to, like, you know, let's say, get home on
a Sunday night late, I don't really want to come
back Monday after work and be like, oh well I
got to handle on. I got a bag full of
crap now, you know. But I'm also the same guy
who basically dresses from the dryer. My drawers are the dryer,

(09:34):
and if it's wrinkled, then I spray it with that
stuff that makes it not wrinkled anymore, and off I go.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
So, yeah, there you go. You're a wild time.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Do you make the bed when you're staying in someone's home,
like if you're gonna get back, Like let's say it's
the Friday and you're staying till Sunday and you wake
up on Saturday morning, do you make the bed at
whether you would at home or not? Do you make
the bed in the place, you know, in the place
where you're staying, Yes, of course should I do too.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Always treat someone else's house better than I treat my own.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I love it people's house that I.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Would never do.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
I'm washing your base boards, I'm wiping down count like
I don't do any of that own.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I don't make a bed every.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Day, No, see I don't either. But on on the like,
if I'm staying in someone's house, I don't want them
walking by, you know, even though it's my room for
the weekend, I don't want them walking by and be
like what kind of what the slob is? Right, because
I don't want to make them uncomfortable because I'm just
organized in messy. Do you take stuff out and put
in the drawers when you stay in someone's home, do

(10:32):
you unpack because some people do that in the hotel?
You do you take so you unpack, Like if you're
staying in my house of the weekend, you're gonna unpack
and use the empty drawers, yes, or the closet uh
huh okay, So like just out of your bag is
not gonna work.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
No, no, no, I can't imagine like leaving everything in
my suitcase and like rummaging through it.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's all over the place, Like absolutely not, because.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Like my quote unquote guest room that I have is
not a bed in there. That closet is not a
I guess that's storage. Like if you opened it, it
would be like, oh well, never mind.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
Then I would be forced to But things have to
stay folded or hung or like whatever, what.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
About a hotel? Do you unpack into a hotel? Oh? Yeah,
into the drawers and everything into the closet, I hang stuff?
Why why?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Because then I.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Could see everything I brought and everything's still folded, and
like nice.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
But you could see everything you brought in your own
suitcase and that way is like right there. Well, because
you just live through it and then just leave it,
it just unfolded everywhere. I'd be afraid I'd leave a
whole drawer closed or something. Plus like who else is
in there? Like what's going on?

Speaker 6 (11:36):
I checked the room no less than twenty five times
before I leave a hotel room. It's insane.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Well, to strip the bed thing was very popular. Let
me see here. We built a new house. I love
hosting it because you have a new house. That might
be because you got a fancy new house.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
So it's like, everybody, come look at my fancy new house.
And she should Yeah, no, there you go, you should.
I bet she'd come home to a complete mess. Yes,
that's too. The Kiki's point is it like if she
just lets it, if she lets them just go about
their on their own devices, then who the hell knows?
Because apparently he's a bunch. It's a bunch of inconsiderate
people who are not helping out right, So like she

(12:14):
can walk into a probably bigger mess, and she would
have if she just stayed. Yeah, that's probably true. I
stripped the bed, but then I make the bed using
the comforter and the decorative pillows. Oh now that's nice.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
But then I have to I would have to undo
that to make the bed. So it's like make the bed,
don't make the bed.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
No, I replace the sheets. So like I strip it
and then if there's like sheets in the closet or whatever,
I put the new sheets on. You do uh huh Oh,
I've never get with the whole new get up and
then give them all the old linens. So literally I'm
ready to like get back in and if I come back.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Wow, I've never gone to that extent, like to look
around and see if there are other linens.

Speaker 6 (12:52):
Yeah wow, Okay, Well that's what it's for, right, so
use it.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
See Jason, Like, I'll come home the whole house is clean.
He cleaned the whole house. He's the guest you want, Yeah, exactly,
he cleaned the whole house. He filled up all the
drawers with his things him. Yeah, no, I can't. Now
that's the most surprising part of this morality Monday. First
of all, it was really nothing immoral about it. I
think I wanted to make it immoral desperately, but I

(13:19):
was not able to do that.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I think it's immoral that they're even staying at his
house that many times a year.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
That's emails.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Well, that's immoralmoral, What is it? He said? More immoral?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is it immoral?

Speaker 4 (13:32):
No?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
No, I'm not confused.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I am immoral, Okay, immoral, immoral, it's immoral. Tell me,
tell me to get an uber that Polinone.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Invented, Yes, alvacado toast for lunch.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, and get the hell out swice and morals. Go
be immoral at a hotel. It's right down the street.
There's a nice days in free breakfast too, so you
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