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October 1, 2025 12 mins

A woman on a Southwest flight was saving a seat for her friend to sit next to her and another passenger who wanted that seat, was angry at her for doing this.. What would you do in this situation?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Moraldi Monday on a Wednesday. And this is really a
moral question. It's more of an ethical question, and it's
about to end. It won't be possible soon any anyway.
But unlet's just well present time. We'll just talk about
present time. On a Southwest flight, a guy argued with
a woman who was saving a seat for her friend,
and he said she couldn't do that because of the

(00:20):
airline's open seating rules, which are ending January twenty seventh
of twenty twenty sixth on some flights that you already
have a science seating I guess which is making Southwest
people very mad because Southwest has slowly become like a
normal airline like everybody else. They've slowly become as expensive
or more than everybody else. It used to be on Southwest.
And I'm not just in Southwest people, because we have
a lot to listen to us and I have friends
that work there. But you it used to be like, look,

(00:43):
this is gonna be cheap. Okay, this is gonna be cheap,
and it's not. It's not We're gonna have it's gonna
be cowboys. We're gonna like last sue you. We're gonna
we're gonna throw peanuts at you, or we're gonna do it.
You ever been lowly did the peanut races? I used
to love the peanut races. The day it was a
total free for all on these flights and back of
the day they used to put like like peanut, like
a little peanut the servicey they don't serve peanuts anymore,

(01:04):
peanut peanut pean, and peanut peanut peanut.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
They don't start peanuts anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
But the little containers of them whenever they were packages,
they'd put them in the front of the plane, and
then as the plane took off, they'd see which one
made it to the end of the like they won two, three,
and then like if you bet, if you were like
in the back of the plane, you were three middle
to one. And then if the if the one made
it to the back of the plane first because the airplane,
you know, lifted off, then they got free drinks ooh,

(01:29):
or they sing their little songs, the little raps, which
I didn't always love anyway, the flight attendant called the
supervisor because they weren't sure what to do. The guy
wound up getting his seat, but then was of course
later asked to leave the plane because I'm sure he
wasn't chill about it. My guess would be to anyone
who's really just upset about it, was not chill about him.
But it does ask it begs a valuable question. If

(01:52):
I am one of the first people on the plane,
which he means either I fly Southwest a lot or
the airline a lot. In this case, I or I
paid for it. I paid for like an a seat
or something. And so I get on the plane first,
and I want my friend to sit next to me.
Is it cool? Do I get Do I have the
right to say no? This like I'm taking the front
row because I got a and that seat right there,

(02:14):
I'm saving that one too, because my friend is traveling
with me. This isn't a child, This isn't like an
elderly person who needs assistance. This is this is Do
I get to say that's my seat right there? I
would argue that you don't get to say that. Well,
I would argue that you don't get to say that.
I would argue that if it's two capable adults and

(02:34):
the other adult checked in like two minutes before the flight,
and as a cboarding group, I don't I don't think
you get to save a premium seat and say because
someone else paid for the premium. If someone got on
the plane behind you and they are similar, you know,
status on the airline or are they paid more and
they want the seat, then I think they can have

(02:57):
the seat, because that's how it works.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
This happened to you when he was flying with Marta,
Paulina's mom, to her wedding.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
And I want to know what you guys think. Eight three, five, Okay,
So what was the situation?

Speaker 4 (03:08):
So I forget I think Marta was a C book.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, I try to upgrade her and she screamed at
me for trying to do that.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
And I was an a because of course I checked in,
you know, the second that I could.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Right, Martha waited.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Until she got to the airport to check in or
do you want to check her in or something, And
so we were on the same flesh. She showed up
to Paulina's wedding and so I got like row you know,
seven or eight or whatever, and she was like before
we got on, She's like, save me a seat, save
me a seat. She's like, I'll sit in the middle.
I'll sit in the middle. I said, okay, and I'm
like so nervous because obviously this is not my character

(03:43):
at all, because I know that everyone walking in is like,
I want to sit in row seven, not twenty eight, right,
So I put my bag there and I'm sitting there
and I'm like looking down and I'm sweating and I'm
like swaying, and I keep calling her. I'm like where
are you, just like I'm almost there. Tell them your
mom is I believe you're my mom.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Look.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
But it worked and she got next to me. But
it was a very traumatic experience. Yeah, yeah, I'm forever
scarred forever.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Everyone knows that. And again this is all ending in January,
but everyone knows that. What you gotta do is you
get on the Southwest plane, right, and you take the
eye of the window, whichever one you prefer, and if
the rest of the row is open, you hope that
someone just takes the middle. And then what you do
is the or the other the opposite they take the
window or the aisle, you know, so the middle is open,
and then everybody knows. What you do is you team

(04:33):
up with the person who's who's you know in your
row but not in the middle, and you tell them
like froth at the mouth. You tell them like look
mean right, you you have credits?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Right, your langs like.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
A awful lot like like like take up all the room.
Everybody knows this is a game that you play. You
don't look you certainly look any one of the eye
because if you look them in the eye, they might
think that you're friendly, and then they might think you're engaging,
and then they'll go, we'll take that seat. No, no, no,
that is not what you do. Drool a little bit, convulse,
I mean, whatever it takes. Yeah, you know, pobo with

(05:06):
a can of like tuna, you know, but then close it,
make sure excealable so that you don't have it because
as soon as as soon as.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
No one sits in.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Here, like cite, I don't want this anyway, and you
throw it out the window or something. Everybody knows that's
how you do him. Yeah, but I don't think you
get to just claim seats.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Now. It would be different if you have a child.
But I would also say this, and this is going
to be unpopular. I mean, I certainly don't think that
a child and a mom should be separated on a flight.
But I do think as a parent, Polina, you do
have a bit of an obligation to plan the logistics
of that.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yes, you got to make if you're traveling with your kid.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I think it's the parent's obligation to make sure that
I've got a seat next to my kid.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, my poor planning shouldn't affect your your trip or
like what, you know, what you've planned for your trip
as well. I agree with that wholeheartedly. Like again, it
depends she is a kid older or smaller. I don't
think me and my one year old are going to
be separated. I'll throw her on my lap. But like, yeah,
I mean, if you want to trade, that's nice. Cool,
but I'm not going to force anyone to do that.
But I am a freak in Southwest flier And you know,

(06:02):
the saving seat game is it's getting real difficult, you know,
I know, January twenty whatever, it's gonna be cut. Yeah,
my perks are gone. But I do enjoy playing that
game too. I'll throw sweater on the sea and make
it look like someone's ready there.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I don't know where they went, but all your skits
and games. I try it. I do try it.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
But if somebody says, hey, if someone's sitting there. You know,
it's an ethical question, it's a moral question, and you
have to make a split decision.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yes, I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
The other one that it's happened to me before is like,
you know, when I travel, I will research.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I'm a nerd.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I will get online and i will research, like the
plane and where the best seat on the plane is.
You can do this like on Reddit and stuff, like
frequent travelers will do this. You could say I'm flying
on a seven eighty seven, nine hundred or something like,
what's the best seat on the plane, and they'll tell you, like,
you want Row twelve, you want exit row, you want this,
You don't want this one.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Cause is too close? That's best seat?

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Like what are the like again, leg room proximity to
the bathroom, but not too close. I don't want to
be on the plane where the bathroom door is just
to my right because that's gonna be terrible. So I've
gotten a premium seat like exit row window, lots of
leg room, premium seat, and then and it's a signed seating.
And then I'll get on the plane and somebody will go, hey,

(07:14):
my husband's up there.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Will you switch seats?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
And I have said no before and people look at
you like you're the a hole, and it's like, no, no, no,
I have an amazing seat, like on the Southwest, the
Southwest exit row, where there's no seat in front of me.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
I just experienced that. I was like, this is another.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Tell me to get out of that seat so that
their wife or husband could sit there because they had
the middle of it. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
we're not I'm sorry. That's not that's a you problem.
That's a mean problem. And so this is my rule
on this. I think that if you're going to ask
someone to change his seat, it needs to be to
a superior seat to the one that they're in. Like,
you're not getting me out of premium economy, you know,

(07:54):
because my little credit card upgraded me. You're not getting
me to go from premium economy to the back of
the plane because you didn't plan.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I'm sorry, maybe I'm a terrible human being, but you know,
if if you want me to move, then you got
to be offering me something better than I have.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Why don't you? Okay, so you have a premium.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Economy seat, you want me to give up my premium economy.
Why don't you offer it to Why don't you take
the seat in the back and offer that person to
come up front. But you don't want to because you
want the two free cocktails. Okay, you want the pre
departure cocktail, the PDC, and I'm not here for that.
It's called the PDC in the industry. It's with Hey, Jessica, Hi,

(08:31):
jes Winning, good morning. So this is the Southwest trick,
which is not going to work after January twenty seventh,
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
But it's what what's the trick, Jessic. I'm on the
edge of my seat. This is where you tell me
worry about that.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yes, the trick, The trick is okay. So you sit
in your seat and you grab the puke bag out
of your seat in front of you, and you breathe
into it and you pretend like you're about to throw up,
and the people will just continue to walk right test you,
and then you get to seat yourself.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Evil Gene.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
I picked up this trick. I picked up this trick
from someone else though, so it's not my own personal trick.
We were on the way to Vegas and I saw
a guy that I was with in my group. I'm like,
if you okay, like what is going on? And I
was like and he gave me, he like winked at me.
He's like, no, we're going to We're God.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I like this.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
I like this the puke bag trick. Yeah, a lot
of people don't know about that one, Thank you, Jessica.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
They don't. They don't. Yes, nice talking to you, guys.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Have a great day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
It's another one is I have a friend who works
for an airline. I'll just say, an airline that allows
people in wheelchairs, uh early access to the to the
aircraft before everybody else. I hope it's before everybody or
what I think it may be the very first people
on the plane.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay, find in Southwest.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
And the reason this matters is, well, the reason this
matters is because it's not a signed seating. So if
you get on the plane first, you get the best seats.
Now if you're if you're disabled, you absolutely should get
you know, as much time as you need.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm all about this.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
But the guy says to me the other day, he goes,
you know, I'm I'm a miracle worker. And I said,
what do you mean? He goes, well, I flew a
plane and we left one city and there were twenty
people in wheelchairs and when we landed there were only
three that needed wheelchairs to get off. Now, you are
not a good person right now. You are not a
good person. If you are faking an injury to get

(10:19):
in row one.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Two three, that's bad karma too. That's not cool.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Like, that's not cool at all because you got people
who really need that and you're just doing it to
scam the system. Now that's not cool. Now you want
to you want to, right, you want to pretend like
you're gonna puke. That's one thing, right, Okay, But yeah,
hey Matt, Hey, what's up for it?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Hey man? You got a system?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
And if it's the one I just said about the wheelchair,
I don't want to hear it might hang up on you.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
No.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
So I'm a family of four, So my family they
get the right side. I get the left side, and
then I team up with the person at the window
seat and we kind of use it as a draft pick.
As they're walking by, we kind of look at each
other and we're like, hey, do we want this person?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
This I see.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
And then we kind of just pick from the people
who are walking to the back of the plane.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I see, I see, because you gotta make up the
chortes like this is a smaller human being, and if
it's gonna be the middle seat, we want the smaller person.
We don't want the we don't want the big person,
because right exactly, I understand that. And the worst is
when you head your bets and you say, fine, this
person will do, only to find out that there are
going to be empty seats on the plane and you
messed up. That's not good. Matt, Absolutely, yeah, no, you

(11:30):
know what I'm talking about. Thank you, Matt, have a
good day. A lot of great strategy in this segment, guys,
except it won't really matter soon because everyone's gonna have
to have an assigned seat.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
But don't be messing around.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Don't be doing stuff where you pretend that you're well,
maybe like a little emotion sickness that doesn't hurt anybody,
But don't don't be acting like you you have any
kind of like disability and you don't.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's not okay. Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
But yeah, it's like, dude, twenty people on the first
on the front end, and only at the end it
was like, ah, we're gonna be here forever. We need
twenty wheelchairs and the person's like, no, there's only three, requested,
what about the other seventeen? He healed him, He healed
them all, waiting by the phone.

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