October 7, 2025 • 17 mins
Whitney is concerned about her relationship with her significant other because they've never really defined their relationship.. And now he's going off the grid in Europe for a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
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doing Whitney?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
There she is, Hi Whitney, Welcome to the program. What's
going on with this guy? You've been dating him for
two months? I act like I don't know. I read
the whole email, but let's pretend like I don't know. Yeah,
so you've been dating this guy for two months. You
have yet to DTR which I'm not sure if that's
de termined, that people still use any more, that the
youth still moving us any more. But you've yet to
(01:03):
determine the relationship, define the relationship after two months? But
where's the issue.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Well, so, First of all, there's no where flags and
he's really good at communicating. Okay, I do appreciate that. However,
he did tell me this week that he's going to
be you know, quote unquote going dark for two weeks
because he's going on a trip to Europe with his sister.
And you know, he's had this put trip planned for
(01:31):
like months before we even met, Okay, and you know,
they're thing in hostels and you know, obviously he doesn't
know if or when you'll have service, And I get that, and.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
He really, where is he going? Is he going to
like war torn Russia? Like, where where is he going?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
No, they're going I think they're going.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm like like Paris, and you know, progue. Then my
understanding is that there's Wi Fi and the and the
interwebs and phone and you know, cellular service.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So I don't know. Okay, I'm sorry. Continue.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So, so he's going on a trip with his sister
for two weeks and he's telling you ahead of time,
I'm not going to be in communication with you.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, I mean he wants to go off the grid
and like really enjoy it and decompress, which, honestly, like
I really appreciate him.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Telling me that way.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I'm not like, oh no, did I do something wrong?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Where'd he go?
Speaker 5 (02:28):
You know, like I'd much rather have.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You met his sister?
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Is this legit? Is he definitely going with his sister.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I haven't met her yet, but you know, they facetimed.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
They talk about this trip all the time, So like,
I know that I believe that part.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Okay, and honestly, like I believe the whole thing until
you know, I talk to my friends about it, and
they think it's kind of bs and they don't really
buy the story.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
They're like, we don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I could see this two ways.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I mean, if he's if he's take some other woman
on this trip to wherever he's going. I mean, trust me,
people who are people who are very much in relationships
have managed to pull off a whole lot more in
the same city, in the same country, in the same
zip code. So I don't know why he would be
unable to text with you or communicate with you if
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this was some sort of you know, the trip he
was going on with that had some sinister issued, some
sinister layer to it, Like if he was going with
an ex or another woman or something, he would very
easily be able to text you or keep something going,
like he wouldn't have to call his shot in this way,
you know what I mean, Like, Hey, I'm not going
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to be able to talk to you for two weeks
because I'm, you know, off doing something with someone else.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know what I mean? Like that, that's too obvious.
It's too obvious to me. What like, how many people
do you know? The cheap married people do this?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Married people have full on relationships with other people using
the very same phone and the very same hands that
they do things with their husband with her wife, you
know what I mean. So, like what I'm saying is
stuff happens right under people's nose. He doesn't have to
go out of the country and say he's unavailable. So
it's very possible. And you know me, I'm not I'm
a skeptic. I'm a pessimist. I tended to go to
(04:15):
the plate the worst place that he's up to something.
But I mean, this could be. But I also don't
know why in twenty twenty five, we're not just like
shooting someone that we care about a text every now
and again to say hey, I'm okay, I'm here having
a good time. You know what about social media? Is
he active on social media?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Usually?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
No, he's got a big coaster really not.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So I think this is your little friend's meddling.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think this is your little friends during this up
because it's very possible that this guy wants to be
present on his trip as sister.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I mean hello, like it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I don't know if my sister when I was younger,
if my sister had been you know, not in a
relationship and didn't have kids, I don't know, I could
see it wheld we would travel.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Yes, but you you could also talk to other people,
like why do you need to like go off the
grid with your sister?
Speaker 8 (05:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Do you guys communicate regularly? Like is it you? Are
you always in communication with me? With with this guy?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I mean it's not every day.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh it's not no coffee bless you, whatever that was.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It would be one thing if it were like you
guys were constantly communicating all day every day and this
guy's going like, hey, look, just a heads up, Like
I'm gonna be on planes and I'm gonna be you know,
less reachable, so we're not going to have, you know,
hourly communication in a way that we typically do, and
just just know that that that's because we're doing stuff.
Because if I'm on vacation and I am just ripping
out text messages to someone else, I'll think that's not
(05:43):
I'm not present, I'm not enjoying what I'm doing, you
know what I mean the way that I might if
id me just in everyday life, doing the same routine
every day. But I want to know from everyone else.
Eight five, five, five nine one one oh three five
You know, just what do you think when you hear
Whitney talking about this guy to.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
My snow red flags.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
He's going out of town with his sister and he's
basically saying he's going to go dark for two weeks.
I think if he were cheating, he could still pull
off communication.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
What what?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I don't think you're just staring at me? But I
don't what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I don't feel like being called insecure today. So I
was actually just gonna let the people speak. But you're
not going to nowhere for two weeks, they me, and
I can't talk to you unless you're going to say
the country is your name military, Mike?
Speaker 8 (06:26):
If not.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's true, I mean Shelley's husband does this all the time.
Granted this because he's like it has top secret clearances
and we're not supposed to know where he is, right, I.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Guess I just don't know what sound this man. This
is the second day in a row.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
We're automatically going to the worst possible outcome, and I
don't I think it's a little weird, but I think
that you know, twenty years ago or fifteen years ago,
this would have been the norm. You know, you wouldn't
have necessarily had communication in your pocket twenty four to seven,
and you would have had to use a phone or
a payful with been expensive like we.
Speaker 8 (07:01):
Use the horses too.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
We've evolved to a new standard where you're supposed to
be in constant communication with everyone whenever they want. And
I don't necessarily think it's unfair to say, Hey, I'm
stepping back for a minute because I'm I'm going on
this trip and it's it's a special thing and I
want to be present for it.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
None of you are buying that. No, no, none of you.
Two weeks you cannot speak to me.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Did he say that? Did he say you will not
hear from me for two weeks? Or did he say
that it's going to be just a whole lot lass.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
No, he just wanted to like definitely let me know
that's gonna be a lot less.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
He's gone, And you don't even talk every day?
Speaker 8 (07:37):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
But you don't even talk every day and you're in
a relationship for two months? I mean again, like, so,
I guess I don't know why it's a big deal
if it's a few more days.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Yeah, but I.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Mean like two weeks. Okay, we talk like almost every
day and we always text good night.
Speaker 9 (07:52):
To each other.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Okay, so yes, there is some kind.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Of communication every day. I guess it's just not constant.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean, is there any I don't know how to
do this and people are texting about I don't know
how to do this without looking paranoid or like you
don't trust him? But is there a way to meet
his sister before he goes, like just so that you
can verify it and casually, not like an interrogation.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Local And I've like said hi on FaceTime, like when.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
I'm over his house, like are he going on vacation?
Would another woman?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No, he's not.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
Just you go get you another man, girl? And then
y'all link up when you get back.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
He's not doing that, like again, I you know, because
because cheaters cheaters. I mean, it's people have had multiple
concurrent relationships right under people's nose.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
You're better at it. I've seen really dumb, obvious crimes
from sure.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But what I mean is he doesn't have to go, hey,
heads up, I'm going on a trip with my sister
and you can't meet her, nor can you communicate with
me before, right, I don't. I don't think I would
go that far. I think I would just say I'm
one on a trip and then if you got mad
at me because I wasn't as responsive because I'm doing
some other girl, then I would be like, well, I
(09:05):
don't know, sorry, I didn't have Wi Fi, like I'm
in the.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, I mean, I just I think there's a way
to do this without calling your shot.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Well.
Speaker 10 (09:11):
They also don't really talk a lot, it sounds like,
which is another red flag.
Speaker 8 (09:14):
She says. We know we've time.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
We almost talk every day.
Speaker 11 (09:17):
The man that you lie with, you almost talk every
day for two months and maybe by the way, Whitney,
have you had any issue with the fact, I mean,
are you upset about the fact that your communication patterns.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Is it not enough for you?
Speaker 9 (09:29):
So she's it's the perfect time, like we've been like
growing at like a healthy, wonderful pace. I'm if this
trick didn't what wasn't like in existence, I would feel great.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
About where we were.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Okay, well, let me take some phone calls on this,
because you've heard our perspectives. But let me let me
see what people at home have to say. And I
wish you the best, Whitning. I don't this doesn't jump
out at me as necessarily a breakupabule offense.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And I think you'll know.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Pretty quickly when he gets back, by the way, I
think you'll read it on his face if he was
up to something or if he guilty about something, or
something develop while you were away from each other, then
I think I feel like you'll sense that. But I
don't think we're we're breaking up with someone now Friday breakup.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
I would just date. Oh God, do you say hello?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
All right?
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Thank you, Whitney, have a good day when you ring?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Your advice is all over the place.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Is it not a red flag that they don't talk
every day?
Speaker 8 (10:22):
Though I do?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, But see, you could say that, except I just
asked her if she's okay with them, she says yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
Because she's just covering her feelings.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No, you have to, so let's not take people their
face value because you don't agree the person.
Speaker 10 (10:35):
You're dating like like boyfriend girlfriend, not like casual like hookups,
not casual dinners.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
I'm talking about dating boyf girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You don't talk to me just to say hey.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But again, that's what you need. I just asked her,
are you okay with it? And she said yes? And
then your response is, well, she's lying to us. Maybe
she's maybe she's not. Maybe maybe that's not what she requires. Okay, Hey, Jessica, Hi, Jessica, there.
Speaker 12 (11:03):
Go, Oh, definitely go. I feel like she's in the
stage where it's ignorance is bliss and she wants so
desperately to hold one day. Is actually what you say
is that he is, even though she knows it's not.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
I feel like she's the other.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Woman, I will say, Jessica.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And the part of this that we and someone texted
this just now, the part of this that we didn't
really hone in on, is that they have not defined
the relationship after two months now. For some people. That
would be normal. But I mean technically they are not
in a relationship, so he could be going with someone
else and getting with her. So I guess I don't
know what the purpose of lying is. He could be
omitting because he doesn't want he doesn't want her to
(11:40):
go anywhere but two months and they are not technically
in a relationship, which means that technically he wouldn't be
cheating on her.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
He has every right to do what he wants.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
He's on vacation with his wife and kids.
Speaker 12 (11:50):
Oh god, that means he's definitely going with another woman.
I kind of went through a situation, like they know.
They say people go through things, but you don't have to.
That's what I know her.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You know he is going with another woman. Yeah, Jessica,
you have a good day. I love you, guys.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I do.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I just I don't. I don't know, Amber High, I
don't Amber stare goo.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Awting why it's only two weeks. If it's really a
big issue, they could both get what'sapp and communicate through there.
But I don't think it's that big of issue, especially
if he's only going with his sister.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I do think I do think it's interesting that the whole,
not defined the relationship thing.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But I mean, what is the appropriates?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I mean, they don't talk every day, so is it
I mean, is this is it a slow burn? Is this?
I mean, I don't know what it is. It is strange,
But then again, he wouldn't have to lie to her.
You know, he wouldn't have to say anything. They're not together.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Me and Lats today said chicks all the time. You
don't let you, you don't let your SATCHI know she is
sad cheek.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay, ever, thank you, You're right, have a.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Good day this two weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, it's a little.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Strange, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Not jumping to immediately. You know this other stuff.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
You're courting me, like write letters, get what's app send
a carrier pigeon, let me know you miss me.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, okay, that's fair, and it's.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
Too he would.
Speaker 10 (13:24):
And honestly, if you were dating a girl and she
told you I'm going to Europe with my brother for
two weeks, you probably won't hear from me.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You would be okay with that.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I wouldn't love it, But I guess I'm not necessarily
going to all of this these other things. Hey, Crystal,
good morning. So I gotta wake up now, you say, okay,
I'm await, So go right ahead.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Tell them this morning, did you congress on your engagement?
Thank you? You can play this too way, Honey. You
need to find out for him if something happens on
the trip, who does he contact?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean, what do you mean it's mom? I don't know.
You mean who's these emergency contact? They're not in a relationship, Crystal.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
She said they've been dating too much, but they haven't.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Then she did say that, but they have not defined
the relationship, which I think if any of this is suspect,
it's that part of it.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I guess. I wonder what's up with that? Yeah, Fred,
once you get the good of this.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
So no, no, no, two weeks?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So what would you expect every day he needs to
contact you every day?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
He's gone, No, who doesn't need to every day?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
I know, I get your own vacation, have fun on
your vacation. But you're not going to say you're going dark?
Two week?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay, fair enough, thank you? Crystal. Hey, I hear you
have a good day. You asked me if I would
like it. I wouldn't like it, But I again, how
do we know based on what little information we have
that he's absolutely lying and he's cheating and all these things.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
This, this is how this happens.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Is we're the little friends here and we're in We
have no idea what we're talking about it. We're injecting
all of our own insecurities into this police saving her.
Speaker 10 (15:01):
Listen, we live in twenty twenty five, Like we said,
what's app this that there's wine down time when you're
on vacation, you're in your room, you're on the toilet,
you're doing your own thing.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Like you can call her.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It would be easy enough to drop a text every
now and again. I agree, I agree. I do you agree?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Leaning Tower Pieza, You're right here, it is it's leaning.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
So I'm in the Vedic.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yes, absolutely, I'm praying for you with my mistress. Yeah. Carolina, Hi, Hi, Hi,
good morning. Just to recap here, this woman's been dating
a guy for a couple of months. They haven't to
define the relationship she has. She indicated on her own
no red flags about this guy. But he's going on
a trip for two weeks with his sister, he says,
and let her know that he wouldn't really be communicative
(15:43):
during that time.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
What are your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (15:46):
Definitely stay.
Speaker 13 (15:47):
I think that unless she sees other red flags, no
reason to be alarmed. Once it's something similar many years ago,
three week three trip for three weeks for someone I
was just talking to here and there, getting to know
and we're married now, and it was all fine. He
actually did reach out throughout the trip here and there,
not as often as you typically spoke to each other,
(16:09):
but you know, knew where he was at here and
there every few days and gotten nice souvenirs. Ended up
picking him up from the airport, So I think that
might be something she can try, picking him and the
sister up from the airport, getting to know her after
the trip, maybe trust a little bit.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, or booking a flight and imagine, you know, ended
up at the same resort.
Speaker 13 (16:34):
I've only been dating for two months. I would say
that's also a little I don't want to go on
a trip with someone I've just stated for two months.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And their sister.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, well I get that too, a wife, Yeah, Carolina,
thank you, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
There are definitely holes in this and it definitely is
a little strange, But I guess I don't know. I mean,
why is he You're.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
A good person and you give the benefit of the doubt,
not always. I'll though you would not go for this.
I wouldn't like it. No, I wouldn't like it. But
I mean again, after two months it's like well,
This is the Fred Show. Each time.
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's stay or go. Okay, Whitney, good morning, how you
doing Whitney?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
There she is, Hi Whitney, Welcome to the program. What's
going on with this guy? You've been dating him for
two months? I act like I don't know. I read
the whole email, but let's pretend like I don't know. Yeah,
so you've been dating this guy for two months. You
have yet to DTR which I'm not sure if that's
de termined, that people still use any more, that the
youth still moving us any more. But you've yet to
(01:03):
determine the relationship, define the relationship after two months? But
where's the issue.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Well, so, First of all, there's no where flags and
he's really good at communicating. Okay, I do appreciate that. However,
he did tell me this week that he's going to
be you know, quote unquote going dark for two weeks
because he's going on a trip to Europe with his sister.
And you know, he's had this put trip planned for
(01:31):
like months before we even met, Okay, and you know,
they're thing in hostels and you know, obviously he doesn't
know if or when you'll have service, And I get that, and.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
He really, where is he going? Is he going to
like war torn Russia? Like, where where is he going?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
No, they're going I think they're going.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm like like Paris, and you know, progue. Then my
understanding is that there's Wi Fi and the and the
interwebs and phone and you know, cellular service.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So I don't know. Okay, I'm sorry. Continue.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So, so he's going on a trip with his sister
for two weeks and he's telling you ahead of time,
I'm not going to be in communication with you.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, I mean he wants to go off the grid
and like really enjoy it and decompress, which, honestly, like
I really appreciate him.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Telling me that way.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I'm not like, oh no, did I do something wrong?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Where'd he go?
Speaker 5 (02:28):
You know, like I'd much rather have.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You met his sister?
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Is this legit? Is he definitely going with his sister.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I haven't met her yet, but you know, they facetimed.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
They talk about this trip all the time, So like,
I know that I believe that part.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Okay, and honestly, like I believe the whole thing until
you know, I talk to my friends about it, and
they think it's kind of bs and they don't really
buy the story.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
They're like, we don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I could see this two ways.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I mean, if he's if he's take some other woman
on this trip to wherever he's going. I mean, trust me,
people who are people who are very much in relationships
have managed to pull off a whole lot more in
the same city, in the same country, in the same
zip code. So I don't know why he would be
unable to text with you or communicate with you if
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this was some sort of you know, the trip he
was going on with that had some sinister issued, some
sinister layer to it, Like if he was going with
an ex or another woman or something, he would very
easily be able to text you or keep something going,
like he wouldn't have to call his shot in this way,
you know what I mean, Like, Hey, I'm not going
(03:39):
to be able to talk to you for two weeks
because I'm, you know, off doing something with someone else.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know what I mean? Like that, that's too obvious.
It's too obvious to me. What like, how many people
do you know? The cheap married people do this?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Married people have full on relationships with other people using
the very same phone and the very same hands that
they do things with their husband with her wife, you
know what I mean. So, like what I'm saying is
stuff happens right under people's nose. He doesn't have to
go out of the country and say he's unavailable. So
it's very possible. And you know me, I'm not I'm
a skeptic. I'm a pessimist. I tended to go to
(04:15):
the plate the worst place that he's up to something.
But I mean, this could be. But I also don't
know why in twenty twenty five, we're not just like
shooting someone that we care about a text every now
and again to say hey, I'm okay, I'm here having
a good time. You know what about social media? Is
he active on social media?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Usually?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
No, he's got a big coaster really not.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So I think this is your little friend's meddling.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think this is your little friends during this up
because it's very possible that this guy wants to be
present on his trip as sister.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I mean hello, like it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I don't know if my sister when I was younger,
if my sister had been you know, not in a
relationship and didn't have kids, I don't know, I could
see it wheld we would travel.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Yes, but you you could also talk to other people,
like why do you need to like go off the
grid with your sister?
Speaker 8 (05:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Do you guys communicate regularly? Like is it you? Are
you always in communication with me? With with this guy?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I mean it's not every day.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh it's not no coffee bless you, whatever that was.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It would be one thing if it were like you
guys were constantly communicating all day every day and this
guy's going like, hey, look, just a heads up, Like
I'm gonna be on planes and I'm gonna be you know,
less reachable, so we're not going to have, you know,
hourly communication in a way that we typically do, and
just just know that that that's because we're doing stuff.
Because if I'm on vacation and I am just ripping
out text messages to someone else, I'll think that's not
(05:43):
I'm not present, I'm not enjoying what I'm doing, you
know what I mean the way that I might if
id me just in everyday life, doing the same routine
every day. But I want to know from everyone else.
Eight five, five, five nine one one oh three five
You know, just what do you think when you hear
Whitney talking about this guy to.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
My snow red flags.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
He's going out of town with his sister and he's
basically saying he's going to go dark for two weeks.
I think if he were cheating, he could still pull
off communication.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
What what?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I don't think you're just staring at me? But I
don't what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I don't feel like being called insecure today. So I
was actually just gonna let the people speak. But you're
not going to nowhere for two weeks, they me, and
I can't talk to you unless you're going to say
the country is your name military, Mike?
Speaker 8 (06:26):
If not.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's true, I mean Shelley's husband does this all the time.
Granted this because he's like it has top secret clearances
and we're not supposed to know where he is, right, I.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Guess I just don't know what sound this man. This
is the second day in a row.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
We're automatically going to the worst possible outcome, and I
don't I think it's a little weird, but I think
that you know, twenty years ago or fifteen years ago,
this would have been the norm. You know, you wouldn't
have necessarily had communication in your pocket twenty four to seven,
and you would have had to use a phone or
a payful with been expensive like we.
Speaker 8 (07:01):
Use the horses too.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
We've evolved to a new standard where you're supposed to
be in constant communication with everyone whenever they want. And
I don't necessarily think it's unfair to say, Hey, I'm
stepping back for a minute because I'm I'm going on
this trip and it's it's a special thing and I
want to be present for it.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
None of you are buying that. No, no, none of you.
Two weeks you cannot speak to me.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Did he say that? Did he say you will not
hear from me for two weeks? Or did he say
that it's going to be just a whole lot lass.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
No, he just wanted to like definitely let me know
that's gonna be a lot less.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
He's gone, And you don't even talk every day?
Speaker 8 (07:37):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
But you don't even talk every day and you're in
a relationship for two months? I mean again, like, so,
I guess I don't know why it's a big deal
if it's a few more days.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Yeah, but I.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Mean like two weeks. Okay, we talk like almost every
day and we always text good night.
Speaker 9 (07:52):
To each other.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Okay, so yes, there is some kind.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Of communication every day. I guess it's just not constant.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean, is there any I don't know how to
do this and people are texting about I don't know
how to do this without looking paranoid or like you
don't trust him? But is there a way to meet
his sister before he goes, like just so that you
can verify it and casually, not like an interrogation.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Local And I've like said hi on FaceTime, like when.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
I'm over his house, like are he going on vacation?
Would another woman?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No, he's not.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
Just you go get you another man, girl? And then
y'all link up when you get back.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
He's not doing that, like again, I you know, because
because cheaters cheaters. I mean, it's people have had multiple
concurrent relationships right under people's nose.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
You're better at it. I've seen really dumb, obvious crimes
from sure.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But what I mean is he doesn't have to go, hey,
heads up, I'm going on a trip with my sister
and you can't meet her, nor can you communicate with
me before, right, I don't. I don't think I would
go that far. I think I would just say I'm
one on a trip and then if you got mad
at me because I wasn't as responsive because I'm doing
some other girl, then I would be like, well, I
(09:05):
don't know, sorry, I didn't have Wi Fi, like I'm
in the.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, I mean, I just I think there's a way
to do this without calling your shot.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Well.
Speaker 10 (09:11):
They also don't really talk a lot, it sounds like,
which is another red flag.
Speaker 8 (09:14):
She says. We know we've time.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
We almost talk every day.
Speaker 11 (09:17):
The man that you lie with, you almost talk every
day for two months and maybe by the way, Whitney,
have you had any issue with the fact, I mean,
are you upset about the fact that your communication patterns.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Is it not enough for you?
Speaker 9 (09:29):
So she's it's the perfect time, like we've been like
growing at like a healthy, wonderful pace. I'm if this
trick didn't what wasn't like in existence, I would feel great.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
About where we were.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Okay, well, let me take some phone calls on this,
because you've heard our perspectives. But let me let me
see what people at home have to say. And I
wish you the best, Whitning. I don't this doesn't jump
out at me as necessarily a breakupabule offense.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And I think you'll know.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Pretty quickly when he gets back, by the way, I
think you'll read it on his face if he was
up to something or if he guilty about something, or
something develop while you were away from each other, then
I think I feel like you'll sense that. But I
don't think we're we're breaking up with someone now Friday breakup.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
I would just date. Oh God, do you say hello?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
All right?
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Thank you, Whitney, have a good day when you ring?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Your advice is all over the place.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Is it not a red flag that they don't talk
every day?
Speaker 8 (10:22):
Though I do?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, But see, you could say that, except I just
asked her if she's okay with them, she says yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
Because she's just covering her feelings.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No, you have to, so let's not take people their
face value because you don't agree the person.
Speaker 10 (10:35):
You're dating like like boyfriend girlfriend, not like casual like hookups,
not casual dinners.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
I'm talking about dating boyf girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You don't talk to me just to say hey.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But again, that's what you need. I just asked her,
are you okay with it? And she said yes? And
then your response is, well, she's lying to us. Maybe
she's maybe she's not. Maybe maybe that's not what she requires. Okay, Hey, Jessica, Hi, Jessica, there.
Speaker 12 (11:03):
Go, Oh, definitely go. I feel like she's in the
stage where it's ignorance is bliss and she wants so
desperately to hold one day. Is actually what you say
is that he is, even though she knows it's not.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
I feel like she's the other.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Woman, I will say, Jessica.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And the part of this that we and someone texted
this just now, the part of this that we didn't
really hone in on, is that they have not defined
the relationship after two months now. For some people. That
would be normal. But I mean technically they are not
in a relationship, so he could be going with someone
else and getting with her. So I guess I don't
know what the purpose of lying is. He could be
omitting because he doesn't want he doesn't want her to
(11:40):
go anywhere but two months and they are not technically
in a relationship, which means that technically he wouldn't be
cheating on her.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
He has every right to do what he wants.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
He's on vacation with his wife and kids.
Speaker 12 (11:50):
Oh god, that means he's definitely going with another woman.
I kind of went through a situation, like they know.
They say people go through things, but you don't have to.
That's what I know her.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You know he is going with another woman. Yeah, Jessica,
you have a good day. I love you, guys.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I do.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I just I don't. I don't know, Amber High, I
don't Amber stare goo.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Awting why it's only two weeks. If it's really a
big issue, they could both get what'sapp and communicate through there.
But I don't think it's that big of issue, especially
if he's only going with his sister.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I do think I do think it's interesting that the whole,
not defined the relationship thing.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But I mean, what is the appropriates?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I mean, they don't talk every day, so is it
I mean, is this is it a slow burn? Is this?
I mean, I don't know what it is. It is strange,
But then again, he wouldn't have to lie to her.
You know, he wouldn't have to say anything. They're not together.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Me and Lats today said chicks all the time. You
don't let you, you don't let your SATCHI know she is
sad cheek.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay, ever, thank you, You're right, have a.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Good day this two weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, it's a little.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Strange, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Not jumping to immediately. You know this other stuff.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
You're courting me, like write letters, get what's app send
a carrier pigeon, let me know you miss me.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, okay, that's fair, and it's.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
Too he would.
Speaker 10 (13:24):
And honestly, if you were dating a girl and she
told you I'm going to Europe with my brother for
two weeks, you probably won't hear from me.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You would be okay with that.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I wouldn't love it, But I guess I'm not necessarily
going to all of this these other things. Hey, Crystal,
good morning. So I gotta wake up now, you say, okay,
I'm await, So go right ahead.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Tell them this morning, did you congress on your engagement?
Thank you? You can play this too way, Honey. You
need to find out for him if something happens on
the trip, who does he contact?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean, what do you mean it's mom? I don't know.
You mean who's these emergency contact? They're not in a relationship, Crystal.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
She said they've been dating too much, but they haven't.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Then she did say that, but they have not defined
the relationship, which I think if any of this is suspect,
it's that part of it.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I guess. I wonder what's up with that? Yeah, Fred,
once you get the good of this.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
So no, no, no, two weeks?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So what would you expect every day he needs to
contact you every day?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
He's gone, No, who doesn't need to every day?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
I know, I get your own vacation, have fun on
your vacation. But you're not going to say you're going dark?
Two week?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay, fair enough, thank you? Crystal. Hey, I hear you
have a good day. You asked me if I would
like it. I wouldn't like it, But I again, how
do we know based on what little information we have
that he's absolutely lying and he's cheating and all these things.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
This, this is how this happens.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Is we're the little friends here and we're in We
have no idea what we're talking about it. We're injecting
all of our own insecurities into this police saving her.
Speaker 10 (15:01):
Listen, we live in twenty twenty five, Like we said,
what's app this that there's wine down time when you're
on vacation, you're in your room, you're on the toilet,
you're doing your own thing.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Like you can call her.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It would be easy enough to drop a text every
now and again. I agree, I agree. I do you agree?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Leaning Tower Pieza, You're right here, it is it's leaning.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
So I'm in the Vedic.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yes, absolutely, I'm praying for you with my mistress. Yeah. Carolina, Hi, Hi, Hi,
good morning. Just to recap here, this woman's been dating
a guy for a couple of months. They haven't to
define the relationship she has. She indicated on her own
no red flags about this guy. But he's going on
a trip for two weeks with his sister, he says,
and let her know that he wouldn't really be communicative
(15:43):
during that time.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
What are your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (15:46):
Definitely stay.
Speaker 13 (15:47):
I think that unless she sees other red flags, no
reason to be alarmed. Once it's something similar many years ago,
three week three trip for three weeks for someone I
was just talking to here and there, getting to know
and we're married now, and it was all fine. He
actually did reach out throughout the trip here and there,
not as often as you typically spoke to each other,
(16:09):
but you know, knew where he was at here and
there every few days and gotten nice souvenirs. Ended up
picking him up from the airport, So I think that
might be something she can try, picking him and the
sister up from the airport, getting to know her after
the trip, maybe trust a little bit.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, or booking a flight and imagine, you know, ended
up at the same resort.
Speaker 13 (16:34):
I've only been dating for two months. I would say
that's also a little I don't want to go on
a trip with someone I've just stated for two months.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And their sister.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, well I get that too, a wife, Yeah, Carolina,
thank you, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
There are definitely holes in this and it definitely is
a little strange, But I guess I don't know. I mean,
why is he You're.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
A good person and you give the benefit of the doubt,
not always. I'll though you would not go for this.
I wouldn't like it. No, I wouldn't like it. But
I mean again, after two months it's like well,
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