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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Is Stay or Go.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The The reason I think modeling has got to work
is because I see this in my nieces, And I
think the reason this is more pronounced to me is
because I don't see them every day, you know, maybe
once a week or whatever. But like the stuff they
pick up on is incredible. Like it's so I feel
like that's that's how you got to do it when
they're not talking to you, is you just got to
model the behavior that you want because like.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Where did you come up with that? Like how did
you notice say that?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Like, no, it's crazy. It's like a little psychology experiment.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Hilsa.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Good morning, Hi, good morning him, welcome to say her go.
So you need some advice. This is about your boyfriend,
and sadly last year you guys broke up out of nowhere,
like really truly. You know, we have people on the
show all the time, all waiting by the phone and
like the self awareness is lacking. But you're like, one
day everything's fine, the next day he's breaking up with you.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
That's how it.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Happened, literally, like it came out of left field.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I did not expect this, okay, And what was his
reasoning for breaking up with you?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Basically he told me that he wasn't in love with
me anymore and then he just cut off all communication.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Hmm okay, So so oh wow, all right, so you
guys are together and then he comes to you and
see the out of love with you anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So you're upset about this and you have to move on,
and I assume you did that.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah, obviously I was devastated, but I had to pick
myself up and get my life together. So you know,
I started to move on, but like a few months ago,
he reached back out to me and he's like, oh babe,
I want to win you back, and I'll do whatever
it takes.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yes, tails so old as time, Alyssa.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The grass was in fact not greener elsewhere, right right?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
So initially, like I told him, I wasn't sure that
I could do that, But you know, he's been trying
really hard and he seems to have changed. But like,
so you know, slowly I've been letting heck in.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Wow, okay, so you're gonna take it back? So after
all this, you you you hear what he's saying. You
believe that he in fact maybe learned his lesson, or
at least you're willing to let him show you that.
So you you have slowly let him back in. So
where what do you need to know from us?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Well?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
You know, I he says he wants to be together,
he wants to get married, the whole thing. But like
my problem is like I'm having a hard time trusting
him and that like he won't just out of the
blue break up with me again. I think, yeah, yeah,
Like I just I just need advice as to like
am I dumb to get back with him? It's not
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like he cheated or he didn't he said he wasn't
with anybody in between, like us being separated so like,
but I still feel betrayed by him, and I just like,
I don't know if I can get over it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Okay, I'd love to know what people have to say
five five five one three five in our little group
therapy thing here, What is his justification? Like when he
comes back to you and says, I screwed up? Did
he get scared? Did do you think he thought maybe
he likes someone else better? I mean, does he is?
Did he explain to you why he was so abrupt?
Because I'm with you, like if someone's if I'm if
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I'm invested in someone and they that abruptly can walk
away and then they come back and say, nah my bad,
then I'm probably always going to be you know, unless
you can justify why you did that in some way,
I'm probably always going to wonder when that she was
gonna drop, the next she's gonna drop, Like, what's the
next time you're gonna come to me and be like, eh,
I'm out again?
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Right?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And like he didn't actually give me a definitive answer.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You gotta go? Why exactly you gotta go? You gotta go?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I'm sorry, I mean, this isn't you know, I'm not
currently licensed as a therapist. We're working on getting it back,
but I you gotta go because if this dude didn't
have a very good reason why he was able to
discard you like that in that way, if he can't,
I got scared. I had a tragedy happen in my life.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
For example, I'll give you an example from my life.
Like I was dating a girl a few years ago,
and she was lovely and didn't do anything wrong. There
were some things about it that were a little mysterious
to me, things that didn't really add up. And it
was moving at a pace that was a little abnormal
for me. I mean, we were talking shed live somewhere else.
There was talking about her moving across the country. And
this is not my talk, this was her talk. I'm
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gonna move there, I'm gonna to live with you. We're
going to you know, do this and that. And I
liked her a lot, so I got it. Around that
same time, I lost two very close people to me.
I lost one of my closest friends and I lost
someone else very very suddenly, and I just I retreated,
Like I just it was too much, it was moving,
it too fast, of a pace. People in my life
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that I cared about were just disappearing, you know, they died,
It wasn't any wrongdoing of their own, and I was
just overwhelmed and I just had to pull away at
that moment. Months later, I went back and explained all that,
and sadly this person was no longer interested, and that's
fine and fair, but I also felt, while I could
have handled it better, I felt very justified. And this
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was like, this was two months old, and it was
moving at a very quick pace, and I felt abandoned
by a lot of people, and I just couldn't imagine
putting putting my heart into something else only for someone
else to disappoint me or leave me, you know kind
of thing. But for this that that woman was not
willing to hear that that wasn't good enough for her,
and she moved on. And that's I completely understand that.
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I also felt justified, not necessarily in a way I
handled it, but in the way that I was feeling.
But this dude has no explanation. He's just he just
left you hanging, and he's like, yeah, I don't know,
I want you back now, that's not good enough.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, you're right, I mean, it's it's hard because I
do love him, like I really fell in love with him,
but I don't know that I could spend a lifetime
just absolutely in the back of my mind worrying that, Okay,
today's going to be the day that he just is
like tired of.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Me, you know, and knowing that he's able to be
that cold and calculated and not explain why. I mean,
what's going on? Is it a you thing? Is it
a him thing? It's probably a hymn thing? What is it?
What happened?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Why?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
How are you going to work on it? How are
you going to get better? Are you going to go
to therapy? Is this some kind of an abandonment thing?
What is it? And if he's not, if he has
no explanation, how do you trust this person?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
You're right, You're absolutely. I mean that's not what I
wanted to hear, but it's what I need to see here.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Let me get some phone calls on this. Listen, maybe
someone else will have a different perspective. But I appreciate
you a good luck, have a good day.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I don't know much.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I mean, I've been talking a bunch of but what
do you guys think. I mean, what does your gut
tell you? Is anyone in here of the mindset that
you can take this guy back with good conscience?
Speaker 7 (07:18):
I wouldn't because she's already established what she feels. And
I think you should trust your gut feeling on most things.
You know, like you're trying to trick yourself into believing
something else, or that he's a different person. But he's
shown you who he is, and if you feel that way,
you should take that and leave.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
I feel like she'll always wonder, though, And I think
that's the hard part, is like, or it would be
really difficult to walk away from someone that you loved
and wanted to be with.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And I wouldn't want that.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
I would maybe try again, and if I got hurt,
it would be on me, so I didn't have to wonder.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I think it would be hard to give yourself to
that the way that you once did with no explanation, right,
you know, again, if this guy can show grandma something,
if this guy wants right up with something, man, Grandma,
I missed my grandma, you know, because when I think
of you, I think of my nana, right, And I
was missing her a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But you know, I'm over it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Now give me something this very much and someone texted
this it very much gives to me that he thought
there was something better, went and realized there wasn't exactly
and then now he now, oh my bad because he
doesn't have an explanation, and that one's not going to work.
If he went to her and said, no, I there
was a shining new object that I was going to
chase after and now I decided I don't want that anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
That's not going to help his cause.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But he doesn't seem to have any other story, so
you know what I mean, Like maybe if he wants
to get vulnerable and sit down and really like bear
his soul something.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Right, make up dog dog, I miss my childhood dog.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know we're whiteboarding here. We're going to need to
improve the story a little bit, but you know we'll
get there. Marabelle, Hi, good morning.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
I are you?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Good morning?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I'm one of your thirteen listeners here.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Well, thank you. So what you hear this story? You
hear this woman? She was a guy.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
He suddenly they were in love, she thought. He suddenly
says I'm out no communication, and then he reappears, I'm sorry,
I'm gonna make it all right now makes sense.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
We don't know why. It's still no explanation. What do
you think?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Absolutely, do not get back together with him.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
He obviously show you his true colors.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It took you a while to pick yourself back up,
and it is very hard to come back from when
you're broken in a relationship. He obviously went no contact,
no communication, He could care less if you were okay,
and then all of a sudden he loves you again. Yeah,
I don't think so. I think that you honestly, you
gotta follow your gut feeling.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Don't do this again.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
You do not want to fall back in that hole
where you're gonna have to pick yourself up again, especially
if he's trying to get married with you. You cannot trust
a person who cannot go with you through sick and
thin and file through their struggles as supposed to just
running away from you every single time he feels like
he's there's something better on the other side.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It's very.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It is very much giving that his his whatever, whatever
his agenda is, is more important than yours. It's not
an equal thing. And he's not willing to admit that
he fully that he made a mistake. And why that's
the thing. Maybe he's saying he made a mistake, but
why help me understand why you were able to do
I think.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
There was someone out there. There was he was probably
you know, going be for someone else, and that person
probably kicked him to the curve, and all of a sudden.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Now he wants to come back. I think that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, it's giving that. Thank you, Maraville, have a good day.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
M M, have a good one.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
It is giving that.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Uh hattag hot girls summer and somebody said, yeah, yeah,
get out there girl.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Hey Rosie, Hey, hi Rosie. What do you think I
think she should head out?
Speaker 5 (10:43):
No, like, do not stick for that. He broke up
with you, He hurt you out of nowhere, and like
just wants to get back to you. I'm a feeling
that he shown somebody and then that's why he decided
to break up with her, that didn't work out and
announced he wants to come back. I don't think that's cool.
I got it okay, And then for you to earn
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that trust again and just to be okay with that,
and I don't think that's going to end up working
out because she's going to comfortably have the doubt and
then trust issues.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right.
Thank you, Rosen. Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, thank you, glad you call it. Thank you for listening. Hi,
I'm ALEI good morning.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Oh that's done.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Hey great, thanks for callin, Thanks for listening. What are
you think is going on here? Or what would you do?
Speaker 6 (11:27):
I think it's like that thing you know, where you
get in a relationship and it's like your exes all
have that like sixth sense that you know you're happy
or whatnot. So she absolutely needs to run hide. Just
don't put yourself through it again, especially you know, I
agree with everything that's since said, Like I just can't
reason out like if he's not going to at least
give her some sort of conversation to get like an
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insight to his mind, like just like where his mind
was at when he broke it off. Like there has
to be something. It can't just be I got bored.
And if it is that, then.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Like the horrible right him.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
My guess is the real story is just is just
not justifiable. My guess is it is about another person
or something that he did swung and missed and failed
or whatever or thought the grass was greener, because if
if it were something more emotional and the guy was
willing to be vulnerable, then I think, you know, there's
a chance, there's a chance somebody could hear you and
realized that you were weak and made a mistake. But
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the fact that there's no explanation. Either he's a narcissist
and doesn't care about you. It just expects that you'll
take him however he is, or somehow his problem was yours.
And again she didn't say any of that, so I
don't know if that's true, but it definitely is giving.
I don't have a good story for you. I just
I just want you back, and that's not good enough
for me.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
I love you, guys.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Thank you, Emily, have a good day. Glad you called Jackie. Hi, Jackie, Hi,
Oh my god.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
I love you guys. I'm so nervous.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I don't be nervous, love you too. But you get
the final say in this, this actually happened to you.
And then the dude came back, and then what happened.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Yeah, so we broke up suddenly a few weeks into
the pandemic, who had made everything a lot worse. It
was super sudden. We got back together a year later,
and he was like, I'm so sorry. I regret everything.
You know, I want to be better, but I never
truly like learned to trust him fully again. I was,
and I told him as much. When we broke up again,
I was like, I've been waiting for the other shoe
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to drop for the last year, and I just it
was never the same, and so I just I think
she's always going to be waiting for something to happen,
and she's always going to be like ticktoeing around this guy,
especially if he hasn't given her like a true reason
for having broken up in the first place. So like
it sucks, and I understand, like I totally understand where
she is where she is right now, but I just
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for me, it was too much to get.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Over, okay, And I'm sorry you mentioned this to go eventually,
you just you called it like.
Speaker 9 (13:52):
We can't do this, yeah, basically because I was just
like it had just gotten to the point where I
was like, all right, we're going to see each other
like once a week, and I would sudden, okay with that,
and then I wasn't okay with that. It was just
once a week. So when I thought about why, you know,
we went from like I need to see you every
day to just once a week. It was kind of
like something changed, and it just I always thought about
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what he said while we broke up. Yeah, it was
just always in the back of my head.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, makes makes sense. Thank you, Jackie. Have a good day.