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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Frend show is on it Stay or go. Craig
is here, Craig, good morning, welcome, Hey Craig Man. Doing
all right? How you joined? I'm I'm all right, just
all right. Well, I'm trying to be like a therapist.

(00:20):
You know, what's on your mind? That's what my therapist says.
Every Sauron just starts. So what's on your mind today?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
What's coming up for you?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
What's on your mind today? Bicycle people? Yeah, buddy, Hey,
look here, buddy, Craig, what's on your mind? What's going
on with this woman Vanessa? I pretend like I don't know.
I have your email right here, but you know, i'd
like to be inspired, I'd like to be surprised, Craig,
tell me what's going on?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Of course, So I've been dead, miss girl Vanessa get
to each other for about like four months. Everything's going
really well. I really really like her. We have a
great time together. The thing is we just like haven't
had sex.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yet, okay in four months? Okay, hmm okay, all right,
well why would you say that's the case.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
So that's the thing. I don't really know why we've
talked about it before, She says, I mean she's not
waiting for marriage, and I know she's not a virgin,
she's had sex before, but whenever it comes up, she'll say, oh, okay,
well we'll do it when I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Okay, okay, huh hmm. So have you guys done anything?
I'm just I'm pondering this. I mean, the wheels are
spinning here? Have you done anything else?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Do you guys get to a certain point and then stop?
We don't have to be too specific. I mean are
we talking? We round? And are we round?

Speaker 4 (01:43):
And?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Third?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Are we like?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Not?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I mean are we were? Second?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
We're I mean we're barely leaving home based, We're like
make out, but not really anything much more than that.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Have you ever seen her baby pictures?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
What does that have to do with anything?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Just curious?

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Have you ever heard are you saying I'm not saying anything.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I've seen if you photoed from like childhood, I don't
know about infant baby photos?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Okay, just wondering what are you suggesting that she's not
the gender?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
She says, I don't know what's going on. I'm just asking.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's all that where you're going She's hiding her gender
identity or something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I never said that. You said that, Wow, have you
ever seen.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
That thing?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I don't know. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, well that's that is one possibility. Then her name
is Vince and not Vanessa. But I don't know. I
don't think so.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
I'm and I'm sure he's felt around.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
He barely can get the first base, not even over
the pants stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I do think I would know at this point.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Okay, right now, that was okay, that was.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
My friends here.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
That was all out of pocket. Both of these guys
are out of pocket. I don't know that. I never
met them anyway, Craig, have you discussed this with her?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
So?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I think after four months it would be fair to
say a conversation could take place where you're like, hey,
you know, where is this going? Where's the chemistry here?
You know, like what what what are your boundaries? What's
your comfort level? How do you see that? I mean
I think it's I would say after that period of time.
I mean you're calling each other girlfriend and boyfriend. I assume, right, yeah, no,

(03:48):
we're definitely like dating. Okay, okay, so have you man,
I'm gonna ask with you, Craig. It's like it's like
it's pulling information out of your here. It's just tough.
It's like an interrogation. Okay, so it's a safe place,
so I'm not the cops. So I mean, what is
she saying when you're like, hey, I kind of want
to progress this thing physically, What does she say to you?

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I mean, she really just doesn't give me any information,
that's the thing. Or she'll say like we we've talked
about it, and she'll say that when she's ready, will
absolutely have sex, but she's really not given me any
indication of when that point will be. And I don't
want to pressure her or anything, like I get it
takes time for people. It just feels like I want

(04:31):
to feel like I'm in an adult relationship and like
that's that's that's a part of being in a relationship.
So it just feels a little like.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Is your financial situation, Craig, What is your How are
your finances?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I mean, I have a full time job.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
You're making salary a good amount of money for a
one k Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
What are you too?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
You're being used? Told me a little being used for
your dollars. I'm assuming if.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
She's if she's not willing to have she just brings
it up and like, oh, we're not gonna progress any further.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
She's getting from somewhere. It's she might she might have
a penis, and she's using you for money. That's what
we've gotten.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
She's just not ready yet.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I mean, but that's fair. But I would say if
she Craig, if she's somebody you're saying, she's had sex before,
so it's not as though she's waiting for marriage or
that it maybe it's it may or may not be
this this strong moral stance, but but yet it's not
progressing in four months with you. Like I don't think

(05:40):
it would be unfair to say, hey, what's going on here?
Why not me? You know what I mean? Like again,
if she were to say to you, I'm a virgin,
I'm waiting until marriage, then there's your answer right there.
Someone suggested maybe she's had some trauma. Do you know
if she's had any trauma, Not.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
That anything has come up for I mean, the thought
has crossed my mind. Maybe she actually hasn't had sex
and she doesn't want to say anything.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I got to be honest, like in this day and
age with somebody who's done it before. I got to
kind of feel like maybe the chemistry's off or something,
and she likes you and doesn't necessarily not want to
be around you or with you, but like maybe you're
being friend zoned here. I really don't know. And the
fact that there's no conversation about it, and the fact

(06:29):
that like when you're like, she just says she's not ready. Again,
I'm not shunning her. She has every right to go
at whatever page she wants. But I also think that
if you're in a relationship with one another, then I
think that some sort of explanation as to why might
be helpful. Hey I'm waiting for this, or I don't
I won't be comfortable until here or something right, you know,

(06:52):
Like I just I think it's an adult conversation about
expectations and needs is reasonable, And the fact that she's
not giving you any information concerns me. And I don't
want to be the guy that's like, if she's not
doing it with you, she's doing it with somebody. But
I think she's doing it with somebody.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, the thought has definitely across my mind that there's
somebody else and that's why.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
So how much longer, Craig, are you willing to wait
with no explanation and no real sort of plan or
you know, no ability to have an expectation and not
feeling like you have all the information? Like? How much
longer are you willing to be in this relationship without
having your needs met? Because you're allowed to have needs too.
You're not allowed to pressure anybody to meet them, but

(07:39):
you're allowed to have needs.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Right, I mean, I think like another month at this
point without at least just like having more of an
in depth conversation. And even if there is a reason
she wants to wait, just like I would like to
be able to discuss that reason with her.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Okay, all right, fair enough, let me take some phone
calls on this, Craig. I really don't This one is
a little bit perplexing for me. But well, they have
the radio on. Let's see what people have to say.
Appreciate you, man, have a good day and good luck.
Eight five, five, five nine one one o three five. Gina,
don't enable.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
Even minute you said it. I was like, girl, and
know exactly where you're going. I heard you I talk
and I'm saying that's what's going on.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Okay, we're sure.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
So you're saying that she is a man?

Speaker 6 (08:36):
No, what, I'll say it.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Out long swell.

Speaker 7 (08:40):
I do think that's right.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
I feel you.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm telling you so, Gina, it's impossible that she's just
not into it. She just she must have a penis. Yeah,
there's no other way. There's no other girl.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
A minute, it's quite all right.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
How do you wrong with that? No? No, no, it
might be false advertising, but no, no, there wouldn't be
anything wrong with that. But I think he has a
right to know at this point. But Gina, thank you
for your certainty. I appreciate you. Gina. Some other possibilities
that have been presented, perhaps she has some form of
STD and is not willing to discuss that with him

(09:22):
at this point, which again I think he also probably
at this point has a right to know. Again, we're
not talking about a date or two or a week
or a month. We're talking about four months. It's a
long time, and we're talking about boyfriend and girlfriend. You know,
we're talking about a relationship. And again, he doesn't get
to pressure anybody, nor does she. But I do think
that he has a right to hey, say, hey, these
are my expectations for what this relationship should look like

(09:45):
and what I want it to look like. How do
we get there? And for her to have just say
I will barely hold your hand speaks to either something
much more serious, a lack of chemistry another person. I mean,
it really does. So there's no world where you can
want to wait that long, but just say that. I mean,
I think you just say, like.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
When she's ready, she'll do it. She's not ready.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
But they don't even barely kiss.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
He said that they do kiss.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
He said, he's barely rounding off a home base. Yeah, oh,
she's not ready.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I don't understand, like why that's not okay? Yeah, it's
okay if you have the conversation.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
I think some people want to abstain until marriage, which
is a good thing to do.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
But she's she's already told him that she's been with
other men right.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Now that I wouldn't have said. I wouldn't have told
him that.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
But Craig, you might be ugly send us a photo, Craig,
because that might be the issue to she might be
trying to grow to like him, like you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Saying, that's what I think. I like him. She likes
his money. I think he's a nice guy. Maybe and
she wants to like him for that reason, but it's
not attracted to him. That's what I think is going on.
That's what I think is going But if you could
Craig a picture of you and the baby picture of
her would be helpful. Yeah, bank accounts, show radio just
for a thorough investigation and for RUFIO a credit score

(10:59):
would be just because I want to be able to
provide you with the highest level of service. Hey, Reggie,
good morning. Hey, what's good Reggie? What what's going on here?
I can't wait to hear this take please?

Speaker 7 (11:11):
Yeah, man, so check this out. So is using him,
you know, she uses people like that to go on
like the plate pen during the summer, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Like material.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
And this man is also a boat owner. Okay, now
that's a good question. We should ask him do you
own a boat? Because that would make perfect said, she's
just waiting for voting season.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
It's almost everybody knows it's been.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Very cold outside and she's stalling for voting season. Perfect explanation.

Speaker 7 (11:40):
And then here's the thing. Bills make for the guys
they don't want. They break rules for the guys that
they do want.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Tell us about girls.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I don't that is that wrong, though? Make rules for
the for the guys you don't like, and break rules
for the guys you do like.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Is that that's with guys that I don't want?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
And I would never have some weird controlling rules.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
She's been in like seven year relationship. He's saying, but.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
The boat.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Everybody dreams of having a sugar daddy that you don't
have to give sugar to.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Right, right, and Reggie, Reggie, thank you man, have a
great day. I'm gonna tell you, I've been on both
sides of this. I've been the guy that other guys
have to follow the rules and I don't. I've been
the guy who gets whatever I want, and I've been
the guy who other men don't have to follow the
rules but I do. I've been on both sides of this.
I've been on yeah, I hook up with him, but

(12:31):
you can take me on dates. And I've also been
that he can take me on dates, but I'm hooking
up with you. I've been on both sides of this,
So I don't know that that's I don't know that
he's wrong about that.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Reggie, you ain't wrong, King, because I've.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Seen it go both ways. Hey, Corny, good morning, Welcome Cony.
A lot of theories floating around here, a lot what
are you thinking?

Speaker 6 (12:52):
A lot of speculation. So I just think he needs
to have an adult conversation, if you guys, Yeah, right,
Like it seems like suck is important in a relationship.
Seems like she might have some issues with not doing
that with you right away. Have a conversation and not
just like, don't push, just let them know what you need.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's what I'm saying. And maybe she can provide a
little further insight, you know, maybe she can say, hey, look,
last in my last relationship, I waited a year or something.
I mean, maybe there's just some context here, or you know,
maybe there's more to the story that we don't know.
But I do think two grown adults who have been
intimate with other people before in a committed four month

(13:30):
relationship for there to be little more than handholding with
no explanation, I do think that's a little bit abnormal.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
Yes, something is definitely going on, but not talking about
it is not going to fix it.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Amen, Thank you, Courtney, You have a great day now.
That is the most intelligent thing we've heard so far.
Maybe picture speaking, I would like to see them actually,
but that one, yes, I mean I would like to
see a picture of him as an adult in her
as a baby. Hey, Tyler, good morning.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Tyler? A lot of takes here, what's yours?

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Honestly, I was thinking stay up first, I'm changing my
mind here. I believe he should leave.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
She's using him.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Something is not right, And again, nobody has to do
anything they don't want to do. But I do think
you got to talk about it, and there's got to
be an explanation that makes him feel safe and confident
in what's going on here, because why are there men
but not me?

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Right, I'm thinking I'm thinking the exact same thing right now.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Again, I think it would be helpful to have that
conversation and understand where her boundaries are and what her
expectations are and what her comfort level needs to be
because it is important to him and we're grown ups.
I think, Tyler, thank you man, have a good day. Yeah,
I'd like to see medical records. Hey, Amanda, how you doing?

Speaker 4 (14:59):
I am well?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I mean, Amanda, the text today, You're on fire. In
high school, A lot of people, a lot of people
saying she's a man. Craig is gay. She knows it.
I mean, I don't know about that. I really, Amanda,
what what say you?

Speaker 6 (15:19):
I think that she's using him and he may be
her sugar daddy and she's sleeping with someone else.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Honestly, that's where my brain goes. My brain goes, if
you're not doing it with me, and you've done it before,
then who are you doing it with? And you can
You can get on me for that, but I that's
why I think, Amand I think you're onto something. Have
a good day. Thank you so much. He Jenny's is

(15:48):
it Denise? Okay? Bean's on fire today with the spelling.
But anyway, go right ahead, please. What do you think?

Speaker 4 (16:00):
I think he should totally stay it's only been four months,
have some further conversations with her, get really.

Speaker 7 (16:09):
To the root.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
I think he could just have a girl who has
some strong values, and I think.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
It's totally reasonable. I'm sorry, I think I'm listening to you.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I'm listening to you too. I'm just the text a
coming in the texture. Here's what we here's what we
just got. I bet they no no, no, no, no,
no no no no, It's just I'm listening to you
with the text, I bet they both stand to be.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
They need a real conversation, man to man.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
You started, niece, I think you're exactly right.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
The key here, though, I think I'm totally right.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
The key is communication, right. I want you to know
I started, I started this whole thing by saying the
key was communication. And now we've got a little off track,
but I still the key is communication, right.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Holy communication, find out what the deal is. But four
months is completely reasonable. I think he has a girl
with values.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Okay, fair enoughs that's so rare that girls with that.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
But that's just crazy that people are thinking about.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
But let's talk about Jenny's thank you have a great day. Yeah,
she's gotta girl with values, values, expensive things. I don't know. Hey, Nikki, Hi, Nikki,
you say stay too? You get the final say because
it's really gone off the rails. So yeah, please, Okay.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
I think she should stay, he should stay. I think
maybe the young lady has a six month rule for
where Hey, after six months with Field, then maybe I
will have six or two works.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I mean again, I think that's something maybe you say
to people. I really hate that though, I gotta and
we've talked about this for years on this show. When
you say, ah, I have a three date rule, I
have a one month rule. I have a six month rule.
To me, it's no. But it's so like it's so mechanical,
it's inorganic at that point, like you don't have nobody

(18:24):
has to do anything. But don't tell me you better
take me on three dates because you talk. Let's let's
survey people, Nikki, who have a three date rule? How
many times you get a fourth date? I want to know,
like just just say, look, I'm not ready. I like
to wait a while. In my last relationship, I waited
this long, like I'm just not I don't know. There's
a way to talk about this that comforts him and

(18:46):
makes him feel like she is into him. She's just
not ready, but she's not saying anything to him at all,
and he's becoming insecure about it. And it's a full
on relationship and he has a right to feel secure
and he has a right to have his needs. Man,
And if it's not going to happen, then you know,
I still think there's an elements.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
They definitely have a conversation about it, and then she
does have a six month rolls let him know like
I've been through this before and I'd rather wait to
see how far this is going.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
You know. Fair enough, Nikki, thank you, have a good day.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
You'll walk you too,

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