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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's talk to Patty and stier Goo. Good morning, Patty,
how are you welcome?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm okay, Good morning everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
So I'm looking at your story that you sent us,
and this is a very very long story. So how
do we rather than I read this, you know, reading
this whole thing, how do we condense this into like
a couple of minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
What's going on? What do you need advice about?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And by the way, at the very bottom of this,
it says I've gone to therapy, read it and church
for clarity, but I can't seem to figure it out,
which is why I'm calling you. Wow. Wow, you must
be desperate. You went to church and they can't solve
the problem, so you call the Fred Show.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
This is good.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Please tell us what's going on. We're going to solve
the problem right now, all right.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Fred, I hope.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So, but I'm it's been a lot the last couple
of months, so I'll try to sum it up as
best I can. It was a couple of months ago,
over my birthday, I had family and friends over the
plan which they have dinner at my house and then
go out to the casino for drinks to end the night.
Were relieving, We were trying to get people out of
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the house so we could lock up. I wasn't being
successful in that, so my fiance I was getting a
bit impatient and kindly told everyone to get the f
out of the house, which I didn't care for. But
there was one person that took that personally, and it
wasn't directed at anyone, anyone in particularly, but my maid
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of honor took it very personal. She let that affect
her entire night, and I believe there was a couple
other things that was going on that led up to
a blow up between her and my fiance. So she
decided to confront him twards the end of the night,
after she'd been drinking. My fiance didn't drink too much,
so he was sober for the most part. That consumptation
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didn't go very well. You know, in her perspective, he
was being rude, became like his apology wasn't sincere, and
then she and up blowing up on him and telling
him that he's a pos, he doesn't deserve me, and
that she can't be in a wedding where she doesn't
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support the groom.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So, okay, your best friend and your fiance do not
like each other at this point, like he thinks that
she's I don't know. They each believe they deserve an
apology from the other for whatever, and up.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Until this point, there was never an issue, So that
blow up was completely at a field. So my fiance
had zero problems with her. My made of honor. I
know there was like I don't want to say like dislike,
but she has her opinions, but I truly believe it's
because of other things that was going on in her
life that led up to all of this. But he's
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taking her words very seriously and doesn't want her in
the wedding, which is heartbreaking to me, But I also
understand like his feelings. I've always validated how he felt
he wasn't in the wrong all of that, and me
and her have talked and we spoke about that night
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and we've me and her essentially were able to kind
of get past it, but he wasn't. She's also reached
out sentiment apology. He won't accept it because he truly
feels like he thought he knew her and he doesn't.
Clearly she doesn't support us, so why would he want
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someone there that doesn't support us? And you know, I
tried to explain that that's she was drunk. She said
some things she shouldn't have. She didn't mean it. But
it doesn't matter what I say, how I spin it.
He is so adamant that she shouldn't be there.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I just want to sum this up.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So, at the root of this, this is a dispute
between your best friend and your fiance. You believe that
your best friend was in the wrong, so you're supporting
your fiance in this example, she's apologized, but he doesn't
like the apology, and so at the end, at the
end of all this, it's he doesn't want her in
the wedding. You don't want to lose your best friend
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and your maid of honor. So it's like, who do
you choose here? Basically? That is that that's the question, right,
Like how do you navigate this?
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Like, she's been in my life for twenty plus years
and I've been with my fiance for seven.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Years and he's about to be your husband. So it's like, cana,
what are we going to say?
Speaker 6 (04:32):
I'm sorry, Oh yeah, I don't know if I missed this,
forgive me, but did you mention the prior issue that
they had with each other? About when you were drunk
and he put you to bed and she wanted to
see you and he wasn't, oh, letting you her see you.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, So me, me and her, we have a good
time together. We always drink and we typically we take
care of each other right when we go out. And
we had friends over for for some holiday and I
blacked out, so my fance put me to bed. She
wanted to come in and talk to me, and he's like, no,
just let lea her alone. She needs to go to bed.
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And they argued about that, and she didn't like that.
She's very she can be confrontational and when she gets
told that no, she she doesn't accept it all the time.
But there was that spat and then a couple other
things that went on that night that she didn't agree with.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But okay, well let me let me do this.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Let me take some phone calls on this, patty, and
let's see what other people have to say. Eight five
five five three five. I'm sorry going through this, and
keep the radio on the iHeart Apple whatever, and let's
see what what people come up with, and and and
then we'll get back with you and see what you think.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Okay, all right, sound good thank you, good luck.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Have a good day. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
So basically what it comes down to you is a
spat between soon to be husband and made of honor
best friend. Who do you choose? I mean, she backs
her husband in this. It sounds like the friend has,
you know, maybe some attitude from time to time, or
drinks a little bit and then sort of acts up
and this kind of thing happens. It sounds like in
these examples, the husband was not influenced by alcohol as much,
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and an alcohol can be the culprit in so many
of these kind of things. You know, we all know
people who are very very different when they drink, very
confrontational and combative and unaccountable. But you know, the bottom
line is she's taken her husband's side in this particular argument.
What I would say is why does why is it
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that he has to stand on business here and say
she can't be in the wedding. I mean, that's a
long relationship. I feel like they don't have to hang out.
But I'm not sure that he should necessarily like make
a decision that will stand the test of time.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Well, yeah, the friend apologized, I mean, you know what
I mean, And he's choosing he said the apology wasn't
good enough. And I've been talking to her over the
course of like a month, and I feel like it's
interesting because I feel like maybe she's just working through
it all, but she's had different people. I feel like
that she's held accountable in the situation over the course
of our talks because I've been trying to like work
it out with her off you know, off air. So
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it's it's it's interesting to me, But I don't know
why you wouldn't just accept an apology.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I mean, they don't have to like each other,
but I mean, at the same time, I guess I
don't want to be the guy, no matter how much
I dislike the girl, I don't want to be the
guy who tells you you have to make a decision
that will probably affect the friendship forever, like maybe be
in the wedding. But maybe that's the compromise is, Hey,
I'm not telling you not to have her in the wedding,
but I don't like her and I don't want to
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be around her, and so I'm not going to be
you know, maybe that's the boundary. But of course we
go to the text line and it's all kinds of theories.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
He's sleeping with her. Oh, he's getting with her. That's
what this is all about, some deep history.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
It has to be deeper than oh, they just got
into a little argument because he's the way he's standing
on Biuz and then the way she's like constantly challenging him,
and then like in the house together, it's it's too
much co mingling for me with friends, like this is
my man, you're my friend. You get in line, and
you get in line to support me on my big day.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Like they're both like kind of fault, it seems like.
And also I wouldn't love my fiance telling my family
and friends to get the f out.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, no, of the house.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
I don't know he was out of line for that
for sure, But it's just like it has to be
something deeper going on.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
That sounds like the kid in high school that has
the party and then it gets too big so he
calls the cops on himself.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
That's what that sounds like.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Not that it ever happened to me, but one time,
one time I considered it, Hey, Yabby.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
How you doing. Don't worry, Hey guys.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I get yaviy. You just heard the scenario here, and
I'll just recap it quickly. But the patty, this woman called,
she's about to get married. Her fiance and her best
friend slash made of honor do not get along. They've
had some confrontations. Made of honor, she admits, has a
bit of attitude and she takes her husband's side or
a fiance sad in this. But he's saying she can't
be in the wedding, and she's the fiance here is conflicted.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
What do you think, Oh, well.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
There's a couple of things here. You know, we need
to be comparasonal life here.
Speaker 9 (09:14):
So first of all, she went to church and went
to everybody, and she's not liking the answers. Then she's
getting because bottom line, she needs to go. I mean,
the angry issues is causing around around people and everything
not acceptable and it's gonna get work down the line, guarantee,
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trust me, I've been there. Don't get got a T shirt.
So about what's made about her, something is going to
happening over there, I mean, and she needs to listen
her God. If the God is telling you go live,
something is going on, it's because he's right, so not
because you have the wedding set up and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
You have to stay.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
So open your eyes though.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Okay, Gabby, Gabby says, open your eyes because this guy's
controlling and sadly you've been there, and I'm glad you're
not dealing with that anymore.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
Red flax, opened your eyes, redflax all over.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You, Gabby. Are you out of that situation? I hope.
Speaker 9 (10:15):
Oh yeah, thank god, I opened my eyes. I follow
Kiki's advice of saving saving money, say, and I got
out with my kids safety.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's amazing. That's right. Yes, that's right.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Stand all stand all business, Gabby saying, I stood all business.
Speaker 9 (10:35):
Open your eyes girl, the wedding, you can tell all.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
The all the gifts. Your eyes.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Reflax all over for you.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Thank you for calling, calling any time, Have a good day,
good bye. I mean I don't know. Yeah, I'm conflicted
a little bit here. I don't like the controlling thing.
I also think he has a right to think that
she's not great as a friend or not not you know,
not always well behaved. And it sounds like even the
friend the fiance here, the best friend, agrees with that. Hey, Gina,
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good morning morning, Hi, what do you think there?
Speaker 8 (11:11):
Go First of all, I want to say I love
Gabby on the phone right now, great lady, Okay, My
opinion is my opinion honestly is I think that she
needs to tell her girl to back off no matter what.
Either she knows something on this dude or something's going on.
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But I think she's got to respect the man that
she's gonna marry right now and you know, figure things out.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
But I don't think he should tell her who can
stand by her side the day that he's gonna marry.
You know, she's going to marry him. You know, there's
a little bit of control there.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I don't. I don't like that. It is a red flag.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But the thing is is that she's got to stand
up on her own two feet and not hide behind
her girl or hide behind her man. She's got to
open her mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, I agree with that too. She needs to say
what she wants. And I think there's a way that
uh that everybody can be present. Obviously, he needs to
be present for his way.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
If he loves her the way that she's explaining, then
you know what, he shouldn't be upset who's going to
stand beside her because at the end of the day,
she's had a twenty plus year friendship with this young lady,
So they're going to be friends probably for the rest
of their lives.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
You got to cherish them friendships. But sometimes the friends
sees something that you don't because you're all up in
this marriage and you're thinking, oh, I'm going to get
married and this.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Is that.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Marriage. Thank you so much, thank you for calling a
great day.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
We can't see, but we all we know, uh, we've
all been in that situation where we're dating somebody and
there's that one friend that is you know, yeah, she's
been around for years, but it doesn't make greatson and
then maybe they don't like you, and then maybe they
don't like you for the right reason. You know, we've
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all been there before, and so at some point, you
know it's like, is this guy also standing on business saying,
wait a minute, you're marrying me, Like, and you disagree
with how she behaved yourself and you and you took
my side, so maybe you need to handle her as
opposed to talking to me about it, Like maybe it's
her thing to deal with.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
Yeah, but you can also as an adult, limit your
interaction with that person, so you know how important she is.
To your fiance. You don't have to be her friend,
you don't have to co mingle with her. It would
just be you know, hey, we're gonna I'm sending some boundaries.
You're here to support my girl, and that I support
my girl, and let's just move on. I mean, somebody
has to be mature in the situation and be an adult.
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This is all very childish in my opinion, Like, yeah,
the bride and the best friend, I mean, the groom
and the best friend need to be.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Checked because I've been in this situation before where a girl,
you know, a couple of girls were single for a
long time together and friends, and then I start dating
one of the girls, and you can tell that the
girl the other, the one who's now single, is less
upset about me and more upset about the fact that
she feels like she lost access to her friend. And
it almost feels like a little bit of sabotage because
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of the jealousy. And you know, sometimes you kind of
have to check that and be like, hey, does this
woman not like me? Or does she not like what
I stand for? Yeah, and so in that and I
guess it's a little different than this, but at the
same time, it's like you kind of have to you
have to have that conversation and say, you know what,
what is the motive here? You know, why is it that?
Why do why don't we get along? Is it because
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I was rude to her because I'm a bad person,
or because I'm bad to you, or because she doesn't
want you in a relationship, but she's not going to like.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Anybody, right.
Speaker 10 (14:46):
I've been on the other side of that though, too,
of just like my friend getting into a relationship and
the dude not liking me just.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Because I exist. They think I'm a bad.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
Influence because I'm single. I'm gonna go out on a
Friday night, your girl aka my best friend says she
wants to go. I'm like, okay, can calm like, I'm
not gonna say no. But then I'm the bad guy,
right or I'm the bad single influence. So it's like
I've been on that side of just like for no reason,
you don't like me, or because you're the man, the
boyfriend is jealous of our closeness because we are best teams.
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I've been in that position and it sucks.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
If my man kept my friend from seeing me drunk
passed out like that would really sit wrong with me.
What is my friend gonna do to me? Like, why
are you trying to gate keep me sleeping? Like if
she wants to talk to me, that's fine. She's been
in my life longer than you have.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
It's weird.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That is a little weird. I agree with that too.
Uh let me see.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Hi, Dylan, Hey, fred Dylan, You're you're taking the side
here of the single and jealous friend.
Speaker 11 (15:47):
I'm taking the side of all men everywhere. You don't
get represented in these conversations often.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I guess you're not taking the side.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I just you're taking the perspective that the friend is jealous.
So what do you think is going on here?
Speaker 11 (16:04):
I mean, you know, I just think we all have
to take a step back first and think, well, no
relationships ever gonna work with an ultimatum ever, I mean
period and in two I mean, it just sounds like
the friend got a little drunk, got a little jealous,
and her jealousy got the best of her, and now
it's created this huge problem. I think her and a
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friend just need to have a conversation about the changes
that happen in their relationship. Now that she's getting married. Obviously,
Brody's the step back a little bit and calm down.
But I think the friend is realizing she's not gonna
have her best friend to go get drunk with on
Friday nights every Friday night, and they're gonna have kids
and blah blah blah. You know what I mean. Life's
gonna go on, but she's gonna be single.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Friends.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
You know, it sounds like this is maybe a transition
that the best friends having a hard time with.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And it's you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Not putting the best taste in the fiance's mouth, and
so it's the whole thing is it's kind of a mess.
But Dylan, thank you man, have a good day. Yeah,
maybe Patty should go back to church in because I
don't know, I don't think we solved any problems. I
really don't she needs isn't complicated. I mean, I think
they both. I think the fiance and the best friend
need to take a step back.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I think the best friend honestly might might need to
adjust her attitude a little bit, because again, you know,
even the woman who called us is siding with her
fiance now, you know, to take it one step further,
is she siding with him because she's being manipulated or
is she siding with him because her friend's in the wrong.
It sounded like she knows her friend can be difficult,
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and if that's the case, then her friend needs to
be a little bit less difficult, and that might explain
why she's so unlikable in this case. But I agree
there also are some signs of control here too that
I don't love either, so I don't know. Yeah, there
you go.