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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So morality Monday on a Thursday? How about that? Yes,
morality Monday on a Thursday. So this is wild. It's
from Reddit. Am I the a hole? My son, who's
twenty three, got engaged a few months ago. Recently, he
admitted to me that he had been texting with a
girl that he met on Tinder, which shocked me. He's engaged.
That is not acceptable behavior. But here's the twist. The
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girl on Tinder was actually his fiance. She made a
fake account to quote unquote test whether he would stay loyal,
and when he flirted back, she confronted him.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yes, well my son did. Was messed up.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
But be creating a whole fake profile to trap your
partner is manipulation. If you have to run sting operations
to trust your fiance, maybe you shouldn't be getting married
if you're learning this. I told my son I would
not pay for the wedding anymore. I don't want to
support a marriage that already starts with lies in games
from both sides. Some people in the family say I'm
overreacting and punishing both of them. What is your opinion? Well,
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here's the thing. I have a lot of questions about this,
and you could chime in, of course eight five five
five three five contexts the same number.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
There's still going to be a wedding.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I mean that was that was my first thing, was
this this dude was flirting with some woman and who
just happened to be his fiance. She catches him and
they're still getting married. So there's that.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, well he's on Tinder.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
That was my one of my first thoughts, like, if
you're in a relationship, we're engaged to be married, why
are you on Tinder? But then yes, you're you're getting
you know, caught up whatever footing with somebody else. But
my other issue, and a lot of people are gonna
fight me for this, is you're twenty three.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Why are you getting married? That's my issue. I think
you're really young.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, I know that's my hot takee Polno Instagram.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
That was Mom. Hit up Paulina if you got a problem,
it's not me. I didn't do it. It's right to
get married a child.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I didn't do anything. Didn't get married like seventeen. Yeah,
like fourteen was legal, there was a dowry, but he
were Hammers actually fourty seven, which is or he was
forty seven at the time.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So that was weird. Both really young, aren't they. He's
a little bit older, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I don't know why he met in high school at
like a Chick fil a or something.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It was a couple of years, that's anyway. So this
isn't about Bella. So my first question is, Okay, so
Pauline is worried that they're too young to get married.
I'm worried twenty three. I'm worried that he was on
Tinder and he got caught. So then my next question is, again,
why is there a wedding at all? I guess she
got over it, and then you could ask the third question,
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which is and I have no sympathy for this guy,
but yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I guess she.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Set him up to catch him. But I don't know
that I have much of an issue with setting somebody
up to catch them on Tinder if you're cheating, like
you know what I mean, if you suspect them, I mean,
I guess you could go right to them and communicate
and ask the question. But people are going to lie.
I mean, how many times have you gone to your
significant other who you suspect is on a dating app
and go, hey, are you on a dating app and
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they go, yes, indeed I am, and I mean no,
so so, but you know, I guess. I guess if
she suspected he was cheating and then she investigated and
caught him. That's one thing I don't like. I don't
like traps or setups though, and I don't like it
if people were doing it all the time and they
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have no suspicion of infidelity. But maybe what we don't
know here is why why was she compelled to get
on Tinder and try and catch him?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
That's a big part, like if did she suspect something
or did she just have time one day? Let's see
if my man would be going back, you know, because
they're both they're different to me. Regardless he was guilty,
But if she did feel something in her gut, then
I could understand why you would want clear evidence in proof.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Why would she have picked Tinder of all and there's
so many of them, there's still you know, thirty dating
apps have a five million dating apps. I don't know,
so why would she have picked that one if she
didn't suspect that one?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Right, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
What I don't like are the constant like and you
hear about this. Sometimes we're let me look through your phone,
or let me spy on you here, let me spy
on you there. You know, trust issues that aren't rooted
in any actual behavior, like you hear about it. You
hear about people who are so insecure in relationships and
they don't they don't suspect the person of cheating because
they did something specific. They're just always suspecting somebody of
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being up to something, and they sneak through their phone.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So I don't like that because you don't like it.
But here's it. Well, well, quality control is.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Fine, but we disagree quality contral quality control?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Why are you?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Why are you married to someone if you feel the
need to go through their phone?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's not in need.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I think it's just more like to make sure we're
all on the same pace.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I want.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It's so disrespectful. Yes, yes it is. It's great. Do
you still do it?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Kicks?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Hard? Is quality control?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
That's my thing?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Why?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Why why can't this man who's done nothing to you?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You know?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Let me okay, let me ask you. Have you ever
suspected Big Tim of cheating on you?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Then why is it necessary to invade his privacy?
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Invade his privacy. That's not invading his It is invading
his privacy, absolutely, it is. It's like an employer, right
every now and then you do all he.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Doesn't work for you, performance review, that's all I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I got to put you on a pole, work everything, because.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
My problem with that is you'll find something. If you
look hard enough, you'll find something that you don't like. Right,
you'll find something not cheating, necessarily hopefully, but you'll find something.
Who is this person I didn't know about? It's like, well,
that's someone I work with and we have I don't know,
we have a nice relationship. It's nothing that's inappropriate or whatever.
I don't know. Does he need to know everything happening
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in your phone and your email?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
No, he can. It's nothing, but he doesn't do it.
Does he? I don't know, but.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
It's he doesn't need to, you know what I'm saying,
And that's how it should be.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
As long as I don't need to and he doesn't
need to, we're good. Does he? Do you guys have
each other's passwords? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Because I don't like it when it's like confirmation bise.
I don't like it when people search and search and
search and search with no real evidence, and then they
find something and they're like, gotcha. It's like, I don't know.
That just seems like dumb luck to me. Like if
your if your investigation is rooted in insecurity and not
in proof or not in any sort of like true
red flag signs. I don't like it even if you
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catch the person cheating, because yeah, you found something, but
it's like you shouldn't have been looking.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
But if you weren't cheating, there's nothing for me to
find eat Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
But then on the flip side, like if you if
you are asking the same question about the same people,
or you see dating apps on their phones, or you
have like hard evidence that something inappropriates going on, well
then I don't have a problem with you investigating or
the back end sort of trying to catch them. But
again maybe that's unpopular, but it's like, yeah, if I
if I searched hard enough for a year and then
I uncover that at one point in our relationship, somebody
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had an inappropriate conversation with someone, boom, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
It's like did you you don't go to my stuff?
Why are you doing that? Though appropriate?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well? I don't, but like I I did not want
to be in a relationship where I feel the need
to have to open, to have to have a conversation
where I, hey, I'm going to go through your phone sometimes, Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It truly is a want, I promise, like, it's not
a need. I'm not like, I know he's up to something.
I just want to see, Like, who is Hobby on
the phone?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Who does he know? Who you do this? Yeah, he's
not crazy about it. He'll be like, I know you
went to my phone. I'm like, I know I did. Like, yeah,
hey Alexa, good morning, good morning. What was your concern here?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Feel like she should have addressed it in a different way.
But also, he has a fiance, Why is this man
on tender? They should not be getting married. There's a
lot of red flags there, and girls have an intuition.
So even if she didn't have any like reason too.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
She knew Yeah, I said a.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Whole intuition thing. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I think she I think she knew more about this.
I think she knew something because she went to the
right app and she knew just how to trap him
and she did so. I think her suspicions were very pointed.
They were based in evidence, because otherwise, I mean, you
just gonna pick of all the ones you'd pick. I
wouldn't even pick Tinder.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
You know that's a popular one.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well, I mean like maybe, but I mean you could
pick Hinge, you could pick Rayah, you could pick a bumble,
you could pick plenty of fish, you could farmers only
Dapaulina was on for a while. I mean, I guess,
I don't know. I feel like there's more to this story.
But no, nobody should be cheating. I also don't think
anybody should be going through anybody's phone. And I don't
think that when you find something you should then feel
justified in invading someone's privacy. I really don't, because at
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the end of the day, you're gonna leave him anyway. Sure, so,
I don't know that you would like SA have a
good day.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
But that intuition, that intuition, intuition does not lie, is
a woman's intuition.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
We can so you're right.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Every time we get this filling in our stomach. It's
never wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You're not right. Come on, it's never wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Never. We should not be going through a partner stuff.
If someone's like Fred, you seem guilty. No, I don't.
I just I think that I think humans have a
right to privacy, which is not really the issue here.
But I don't blame this woman for not paying for
the wedding. It's a disaster, it's a mess. Why would
I put my money into that? So I'm gonna spend,
you know, however much money to throw a party for
you guys, and you cheated and you caught him, and
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now somehow you think you're gonna work it out.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
No, I'm not paying for that wedding. I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I don't think they should be together. Yeah, they need
to do some work. I think I would pay for it,
but we have to push the wedding down a couple
of years, need to really figure it out and work
through this before I'm gonna put any more money my
money into this, which means you're not paying for it, right.
That means you're not paying for it. Entially, they're going
to figure out that it's too toxic and they're gonna di.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So you saying I won't pay for it as planned,
it's you saying I'm not paying for it because it
probably should never happen, should never come together. I'm going
through these texts. I yeah, run girl. My husband and
I were run girl. My husband and I were buying
a house when the process are called to tell me
that she found recurring charges for a tender account on
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his bank statement that we didn't share together. Come to
find out, he was meeting up with other women. See
now that that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That you go and now paying for tender that's crazy.
You had a membership and everything. Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, yeah, well well I don't know about tender on
some of them that you barely even get seen if
you don't pay.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So there's that. But I mean, see, there you go.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
So she had evidence, right, Like, now you have a
reason to be concerned, Like the guy did something, he
was caught.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You just you just.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Grabbing his phone every day when he's in the shower
and scrolling through it.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I don't like that. I just don't like it. That's
not it's not cool.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
There's nothing on my phone personally that my husband will
ever find. Okay, the only thing he'll get upset about
it is probably like the door at actual seats and
like the Starbucks, Like he will be very upset about
that for other reasons.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
But you're never gonna got you.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Me, Like there's nothing in my phone, Like, okay, well
group chat with between me again and Jason excellent.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
So he's never gonna get You know what's funny. He
just texted me and said the same thing. He just
hobby just he doesn't speak words to me when I
see him, but he we just he and I just
stand there and be anti social together. But he texted
me and said, hey, there's no thing in my phone
that Paulina would ever need to be worried about. Problem solved,
So he doesn't. So he doesn't go through your phone.
You don't go through his problem.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Sorry, I've never found anything in his phone. You don't
never go through it anymore. Like, don't do that to
yourself because.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Because you're trying to build a healthy, trustworthy relationship, or
you're not going.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Back behind his back and spying on him.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Oh my gosh, Paulina, Sophia and Monica. I got two people.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Oh hello, yeah, hello, I.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Got both of w What do you think about this?
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Well, coming from a twenty three year old and I'm
sitting next to my mom, we think, Mom, don't pay
for the wedding. Let these kids figure it out.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, yeah, I think so too. Yeah. The number one
the wedding doesn't need to happen, and then what And then.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
I've been married for thirty years and I never go
through my husband's phone. He would go through my phone
and I would sit there and let him. But at
the end of the at the end of the you know,
to just in conclusion, I would say, don't give anybody.
If you can't trust somebody and you're looking through their phone,
then there's an issue. And then there's other issues that
people should talk about, okay, And don't pay for the wedding.
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I would not pay for the wedding. I would say, sorry,
if you guys both were sitting here trying to play
games on each other, then you guys shouldn't get married, okay,
And the story I'll be at the wedding and that's it.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
All right, Well, thank you Sophia and Monica. I appreciate that.
Inconclusion sounds like an essay wrote, you know, and inconclusion.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Lusion.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh yeah, And for some reason aforementioned was I loved
I loved that because it seemed like a lot of
syllables and it seemed like a smart person world. Yes, exactly, yes,
And so I used to use it and I'm like,
I'm so smart for knowing this, but not really. I
should be a lawyer, right right, depositioner absolutely, all right,
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so this is a problem. So everyone agrees we don't
do the wedding. We're not doing the wedding. They shouldn't
be married and nobody should be snooping. Good, I'm glad
you agree. Palling it great, it starts today, we'll do
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