October 22, 2025 • 9 mins
Derek is confused why Holly won't call him back after they started to plan their first date... Find out why he got ghosted!
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Never been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fread Show.
Hey Derek, good morning, Welcome to the program. How are you,
I'm good. How are you doing all right?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Man? What's going on with this woman? Holly?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We got to hear kind of the whole story on
waiting by the phone, trying to figure out if you've
been ghosted?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You think maybe? But how did you meet?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Tell us about any data dates you've been on plural
if there are any, and where things are now?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, I'm the Holly n Hinge and we like immediately
kick it off, started chatting and like honestly, in like
a couple of days, we already exchanged numbers and instagram
so it was feeling good and then great, well we
started planning a date, though she disappeared. Like I'm confused
(01:18):
because it's like, how do you ghost someone before you
meet them?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, that's interesting. So you guys you were texting. I
don't know if you had a phone conversation. You said
you exchanged numbers and instagrams, but you were in the
planning stages of this date or did you have did
you even get that far? You were talking about it,
but like nothing formal, and then she disappeared. Yes, huh, Yeah,
that's interesting, Like why would you match with someone and
then get their Instagram and chat with them and then
(01:43):
just only to ghost them. But I mean, there are
so many different possibilities I guess, which is what we're
gonna try and find out for you, Derek, We're gonna
play song come back call Holly. You'll be on the phone.
We're gonna ask a bunch of questions on your behalf.
At some point you're welcome to jump in on the call.
And the whole as always is that we can set
you up on another and pay for it. Okay, Okay,
then hang out one second, we'll be write back. Hey Derek, Hey,
(02:05):
all right, welcome back. Let's call Holly. You met on Hinge.
You guys were chatting on the app, the dating app,
and then you changed numbers and instagrams, and then you
started texting, and you know you were working towards planning
a date. You thought that's where things were headed. Except
she has disappeared before you could even meet her. She
never You've been ghosted before you even meet this person,
and you want to know why. Yeah, okay, well let's
(02:27):
call Holly now. Good luck, Derek, Thanks man. Hello, Hi
is this Holly?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Is it she?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Hey, Holly, good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling
from the Fred's Show, the morning radio show. The whole
crew is here, and I have to tell you that
we are on the radio right now and I would
need your permission to continue with the call.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Can which app for just a second? You can hang
up anytime?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah, sure, Hi.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I know it's kind of weird to get a call
from from a radio show, but this is waiting by
the phone and we're calling on behalf of a guy
named Derek, who says that I guess you guys matched
on one of the dating app scenes I think it was,
and then exchange numbers and stuff. Do you remember meeting
this guy?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, well virtually, Verge, I guess because you never actually
met him, which is the purpose of the call. Because
he reached out to us and says that he, you know,
was interested in you based on your dating profile and
that you matched and that you chatted, and then you disappeared.
So why is it that you matched and then talked
a little bit, and then and then when he was
trying to plan a date, you ghosted.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It seems what happened.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
I sorry, I just cannot believe that. Asking about Derek. Okay,
So what happened was I was super excited that I
matched with him, liked his his profile. When I saw
his Instagram, I was even more excited because he seemed
(03:48):
like normal fun like he has you know, like friends,
goes on trips, like the normal person.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
So I was excited. But then he sent me.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
The most shocking video I've ever received in my life.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Okay, he sent you a video.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yeah, before before we met, before we went on a date.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
This was his way of asking me out on a date.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I guess, uh, backstory because it's it's relevant. I lost
my brother a few years ago.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
A few years ago he passed away. I'm sorry, I'm yeah,
thank you.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
It's it's like still obviously a tough thing for me,
but it was.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I'm scared by the way, I'm scared of why that's
a relevant piece of this.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But anyway, I'm sorry. Yeah, here we go ahead.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
It was a pretty big surprise when Derek sent me
a video with what looked to be my brother and
my heart just immediately sank, I pressed play, and it
pretty immediately became clear that he had made an ai
(05:02):
video okay, of my brother asking me out on a date.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Okay, what I mean, there's so many layers of issues here,
Like I mean, so, I mean, okay, so I guess
he went and he from your Instagram, I guess, and
then maybe some context that you'd given him. He got
a picture of your brother, and then he and then
he used Paulina, his best friend's chat GPT accounts to
(05:31):
go in I guess, and then make a video, which
these videos are ridiculous, there's so many of them. What
I sent you the other day came when one of
it was Tupac and mister Rogers chatting with each other.
I hate to break it to you, but it never happened.
But anyway, so, oh god, so he But then the
brother asking you on a date would be weird. Unfortunately
(05:54):
he's no longer with us, which makes it even weirder.
He'd never met I mean, there's just so many problems.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Here, right, And in the video it was my brother
like vouching for this guy, saying like, you should go
out with Derek, Grandma guy.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
It's just all layers of ft up. Yeah, probably the
craziest thing that anyone's ever done.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if if it is, I
hope it is. I forgot to mention that Derek is here. Derek,
why man?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Oh look, hey, hey, Holly, hey, Hi. I can see
how this is coming across. It's weird, but I.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I thought you can't look. But I thought.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
My initial thing was like, you'd be happy to see
him again, and and I won, and then you know,
on Instagram, I saw that he was your best friend,
so like, I thought it'd be pretty creative. And don't
do I get points for creativity?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Oh my god, no, no you don't, No, you don't.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I'm sure it would be nice to see him again,
but maybe not in this context. You never met the guy,
he can't vouch for you. It's I'm sure a very
traumatic event that took place for her, very triggering, and
you're using it to get a date.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, but like it's just because AI. People don't like
using AI.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Like, I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
You're missing why this is a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I wouldn't be.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Happy to see my brother in this kind of a context. Anytime,
say we were getting married ten years from now, it
still would be really inappropriate.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It's like, there's creativity points here. It's not. Yeah, it's
it's just really inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
He's not really vouching for you. By the way, I
hate to break it to you.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Right, I feel like, you know, girls always say like
men want they want men to be creative, but.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Okay, relative man, Like, that's not what creative means. Like
plan a date. That's not a drink at a bar
during a football game. It's not going to chetch ept
and and and find distant. Really, what's the next thing
you to have her grandfather? If he's not with us anymore,
you're gonna have him, you know, say that he likes
(07:57):
you to check.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
His search history I'm sure it's in there. Right for Derek,
I mean creative, the AI.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Did the work for you, so you didn't even get creative.
You thought of a really weird thing and let a
computer do it for you.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's creepy and it's inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay, sure you don't seem convinced, but okay, we don't.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We don't need it. We don't need it, we don't
put it that way.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I feel like you guys are for it.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So whatever, I'm being a hater. Ok we're being haters. Guys.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I don't know if you knew that we were haters because
it turns out. Okay, I'll ask the question. It's rhetorical.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I know the answer. But would you like to go
out with uh with AI master Derek over here? Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Maybe I'll ask chat g BT what I should do too?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
But you don't, like, maybe this is clever if you don't,
if it's not so personal, I don't. I don't know
that it is under any circumstances, but like, maybe there's
a funny way to do this with someone who's not
someone who meant so much to her, who's who is deceased,
if a celebrity or something, right, it's someone who's living
or something I don't know, like that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Maybe there's a way to use this.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I don't know that there is, but like, certainly not
something this deeply personal that you have no attachment to whatsoever.
But anyway, she's not interested. Derek, I might rethink the
approach here, But I was waiting for him to say next.
You know, if he wanted to, he would, you know
that kind of I was waiting for another one of
these like hallmark cliche comments from him. You know, women
(09:24):
want men to try. Yeah, not like that. No, I
thought that was obvious. But Derek, good luck to you.
I guess don't do that anymore. Holly, thank you so
much for your time.
This is the Fread Show.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Each time, celebrate the holiday season with Mariah Carey's Christmas
Time in Las Vegas this November twenty eight through December thirteenth,
Adobe Live and Park MGM, and you could be going
a trip for two to the December twelfth show at
two Night's Day at Park MGM December twelfth through to
fourteenth and round trip airfare. Text Vegas to five seven
(00:23):
seven three nine right now for a chance to win.
A confirmation text will be sent standard message and data
rates may apply.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's all thanks to Live Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Never been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fread Show.
Hey Derek, good morning, Welcome to the program. How are you,
I'm good. How are you doing all right?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Man? What's going on with this woman? Holly?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We got to hear kind of the whole story on
waiting by the phone, trying to figure out if you've
been ghosted?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You think maybe? But how did you meet?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Tell us about any data dates you've been on plural
if there are any, and where things are now?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, I'm the Holly n Hinge and we like immediately
kick it off, started chatting and like honestly, in like
a couple of days, we already exchanged numbers and instagram
so it was feeling good and then great, well we
started planning a date, though she disappeared. Like I'm confused
(01:18):
because it's like, how do you ghost someone before you
meet them?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, that's interesting. So you guys you were texting. I
don't know if you had a phone conversation. You said
you exchanged numbers and instagrams, but you were in the
planning stages of this date or did you have did
you even get that far? You were talking about it,
but like nothing formal, and then she disappeared. Yes, huh, Yeah,
that's interesting, Like why would you match with someone and
then get their Instagram and chat with them and then
(01:43):
just only to ghost them. But I mean, there are
so many different possibilities I guess, which is what we're
gonna try and find out for you, Derek, We're gonna
play song come back call Holly. You'll be on the phone.
We're gonna ask a bunch of questions on your behalf.
At some point you're welcome to jump in on the call.
And the whole as always is that we can set
you up on another and pay for it. Okay, Okay,
then hang out one second, we'll be write back. Hey Derek, Hey,
(02:05):
all right, welcome back. Let's call Holly. You met on Hinge.
You guys were chatting on the app, the dating app,
and then you changed numbers and instagrams, and then you
started texting, and you know you were working towards planning
a date. You thought that's where things were headed. Except
she has disappeared before you could even meet her. She
never You've been ghosted before you even meet this person,
and you want to know why. Yeah, okay, well let's
(02:27):
call Holly now. Good luck, Derek, Thanks man. Hello, Hi
is this Holly?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Is it she?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Hey, Holly, good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling
from the Fred's Show, the morning radio show. The whole
crew is here, and I have to tell you that
we are on the radio right now and I would
need your permission to continue with the call.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Can which app for just a second? You can hang
up anytime?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah, sure, Hi.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I know it's kind of weird to get a call
from from a radio show, but this is waiting by
the phone and we're calling on behalf of a guy
named Derek, who says that I guess you guys matched
on one of the dating app scenes I think it was,
and then exchange numbers and stuff. Do you remember meeting
this guy?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, well virtually, Verge, I guess because you never actually
met him, which is the purpose of the call. Because
he reached out to us and says that he, you know,
was interested in you based on your dating profile and
that you matched and that you chatted, and then you disappeared.
So why is it that you matched and then talked
a little bit, and then and then when he was
trying to plan a date, you ghosted.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It seems what happened.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
I sorry, I just cannot believe that. Asking about Derek. Okay,
So what happened was I was super excited that I
matched with him, liked his his profile. When I saw
his Instagram, I was even more excited because he seemed
(03:48):
like normal fun like he has you know, like friends,
goes on trips, like the normal person.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
So I was excited. But then he sent me.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
The most shocking video I've ever received in my life.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Okay, he sent you a video.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yeah, before before we met, before we went on a date.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
This was his way of asking me out on a date.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I guess, uh, backstory because it's it's relevant. I lost
my brother a few years ago.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
A few years ago he passed away. I'm sorry, I'm yeah,
thank you.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
It's it's like still obviously a tough thing for me,
but it was.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I'm scared by the way, I'm scared of why that's
a relevant piece of this.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But anyway, I'm sorry. Yeah, here we go ahead.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
It was a pretty big surprise when Derek sent me
a video with what looked to be my brother and
my heart just immediately sank, I pressed play, and it
pretty immediately became clear that he had made an ai
(05:02):
video okay, of my brother asking me out on a date.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Okay, what I mean, there's so many layers of issues here,
Like I mean, so, I mean, okay, so I guess
he went and he from your Instagram, I guess, and
then maybe some context that you'd given him. He got
a picture of your brother, and then he and then
he used Paulina, his best friend's chat GPT accounts to
(05:31):
go in I guess, and then make a video, which
these videos are ridiculous, there's so many of them. What
I sent you the other day came when one of
it was Tupac and mister Rogers chatting with each other.
I hate to break it to you, but it never happened.
But anyway, so, oh god, so he But then the
brother asking you on a date would be weird. Unfortunately
(05:54):
he's no longer with us, which makes it even weirder.
He'd never met I mean, there's just so many problems.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Here, right, And in the video it was my brother
like vouching for this guy, saying like, you should go
out with Derek, Grandma guy.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
It's just all layers of ft up. Yeah, probably the
craziest thing that anyone's ever done.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if if it is, I
hope it is. I forgot to mention that Derek is here. Derek,
why man?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Oh look, hey, hey, Holly, hey, Hi. I can see
how this is coming across. It's weird, but I.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I thought you can't look. But I thought.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
My initial thing was like, you'd be happy to see
him again, and and I won, and then you know,
on Instagram, I saw that he was your best friend,
so like, I thought it'd be pretty creative. And don't
do I get points for creativity?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Oh my god, no, no you don't, No, you don't.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I'm sure it would be nice to see him again,
but maybe not in this context. You never met the guy,
he can't vouch for you. It's I'm sure a very
traumatic event that took place for her, very triggering, and
you're using it to get a date.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, but like it's just because AI. People don't like
using AI.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Like, I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
You're missing why this is a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I wouldn't be.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Happy to see my brother in this kind of a context. Anytime,
say we were getting married ten years from now, it
still would be really inappropriate.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It's like, there's creativity points here. It's not. Yeah, it's
it's just really inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
He's not really vouching for you. By the way, I
hate to break it to you.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Right, I feel like, you know, girls always say like
men want they want men to be creative, but.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Okay, relative man, Like, that's not what creative means. Like
plan a date. That's not a drink at a bar
during a football game. It's not going to chetch ept
and and and find distant. Really, what's the next thing
you to have her grandfather? If he's not with us anymore,
you're gonna have him, you know, say that he likes
(07:57):
you to check.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
His search history I'm sure it's in there. Right for Derek,
I mean creative, the AI.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Did the work for you, so you didn't even get creative.
You thought of a really weird thing and let a
computer do it for you.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's creepy and it's inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay, sure you don't seem convinced, but okay, we don't.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We don't need it. We don't need it, we don't
put it that way.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I feel like you guys are for it.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So whatever, I'm being a hater. Ok we're being haters. Guys.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I don't know if you knew that we were haters because
it turns out. Okay, I'll ask the question. It's rhetorical.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I know the answer. But would you like to go
out with uh with AI master Derek over here? Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Maybe I'll ask chat g BT what I should do too?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
But you don't, like, maybe this is clever if you don't,
if it's not so personal, I don't. I don't know
that it is under any circumstances, but like, maybe there's
a funny way to do this with someone who's not
someone who meant so much to her, who's who is deceased,
if a celebrity or something, right, it's someone who's living
or something I don't know, like that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Maybe there's a way to use this.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I don't know that there is, but like, certainly not
something this deeply personal that you have no attachment to whatsoever.
But anyway, she's not interested. Derek, I might rethink the
approach here, But I was waiting for him to say next.
You know, if he wanted to, he would, you know
that kind of I was waiting for another one of
these like hallmark cliche comments from him. You know, women
(09:24):
want men to try. Yeah, not like that. No, I
thought that was obvious. But Derek, good luck to you.
I guess don't do that anymore. Holly, thank you so
much for your time.
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