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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I've ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Show. Hey, Angela, good morning, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Oh hey, I'm good things.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We're doing? Okay, I's waiting by the phone.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So what we're trying to figure out is why you
may have been ghosted by this guy that you met
on Hinge. So tell us about Christian that's his name.
You met on Hinge and then what happens.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, my friends and I are calling him Christian Gray
by the way, you know, like because he's been so
like hardcore about this anyways, really weird. Yeah, like you
know the fifty Shades is great guy, Christian Gray.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Okay, So we met on Hinge and we went out twice,
and during our second date we were like having a
really good time. We're even planning our third date. But
then he just never called, and it was it was
just really bizarre because we had such a good time,
you know, and then just nothing. So I'm very confused.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Huh, very weird.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
So, I mean, we don't often hear about a third
date ghosting. I mean we have, but usually it's, you know,
you go out one time and then someone does some
weird and then you never hear from him again. But
in this case, you guys, I mean thanks for sort
of progressing to the point where you're gonna go out
three times. That's getting I don't know, semi serious. I
mean it means you really like somebody, I guess, so
you would expect to hear from them again. You didn't
(01:27):
hear from him again, and it's bugging you and you want.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
To know why.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah. Well, let's call this guy just a second. We'll
see if we can get Christian on the phone, and
you'll be on the phone too. We'll ask some questions
at some point. You're welcome to jump in after we
get you some info. And the hope here is always
that we can straighten things out and then set you
guys up on another date and pay for that.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Sound good?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, that sounds great.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Let's find out what's going on Part two of waiting
by the phone. After this song goes, you can't back
in two minutes?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Still move.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It's the Fread Show, Joe. It's the Fread Show on
the radio and the iHeart app live at any time.
I'm sure it's got a fresh show on demand. Oh
and you can make us a preset too. The podcast
fread show on demand, the stage already listen to us,
so why don't you do that?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Please?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Thank you, I appreciate you. Hey, Angela, Hell all right,
welcome back. Let's call Christian. Just to recap you. Guys
met on the dating app Hinge, and he went out
twice on the second date. You were even planning the
third date. So we're looking into the future here. Except
after the second date, you never heard from this man again.
He never called you, he never texted, he has it
responded to you. He's ghosting and you want to know why.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, it's really weird. I would love some clarity.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Okay, well let's call him right now. Good luck, Angela,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Hi is this Christian? Oh yeah, this is see Hey Christian,
good morning.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
My name is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred Show,
that morning radio show. The whole crew is here and
I have to tell you that we are on the
radio right now and I would need your permission to continue.
Is it okay if we chat for just a couple
of seconds, you can hang up anytime of course. Cool.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, Well, thank.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You, thank you very much. We're calling on behalf of
a woman. Who reached out to us.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Her name is Angela, says that you guys met on
the dating app Pinge and you went out a couple
of times. Do you recall this woman?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Oh yeah, I know her.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well okay, so it was okay.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
She told us that you guys had met and went
out twice and we're talking about a third date and
then you disappeared.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Is that true? I mean, what are you avoiding her?
What happened? What's your side of the story.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, basically what happened was it went really well. I
I kind of you know, like from the get knew
that there was something there, something special, and you know,
after a couple of dates, I said, well, you know,
I don't need to look any further. I think I
found a good one. So basically after that second date,
you know, we had a little chat and I said, hey,
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guess what you know? You mean something? So I'm deleting
all my apps and I'd like you to do the same,
you know, okay, And then at that point she said no,
and I was like, well what does that mean? Then? Like,
so is working? Because it seems like we're really hitting
it off and we're having a good time. So either
you like me or you don't, and she was like, oh,
(04:14):
I don't feel comfortable bleating all my apps. You know,
it's just too dates. And I'm like, uh, just two
really great dates, so delete the apps if you like me.
And then you know, she just really hurt me. So
I was just like, Okay, well, I don't need to
reach out to her anymore. Intentions clear.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh this may surprise people, but I don't really have
a problem with what you were attempting to do. I
realized that you're going to get some resistance from some people,
but like, if you like, let me bring I forgot
to mention of the angelist. Hey, I want to bring
Angela and so she can tell her side of the
story here Angela, Christy and you guys know each other.
Is I always forget to the other person's apps in mind?
But is it true that you liked him enough for
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another date but you you were not yet ready to
delete the app? Is that because you still wanted to
keep your options open or was that more? Or was
that more that you wanted him to think that.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I just didn't want to shut the door on any
other possibilities just because it's only been two days.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I'm not saying I.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Don't like him. I do, but I just think it's
a little fast, you know, like we're not even exclusive yet,
and I just I couldn't make that commitment yet.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Okay, Well, I don't know about you guys who have
been on the apps before. I know, Kaylen, you know
you've gone on and off or whatever. But like, it's
not easy to get to the point where you're going
on a third date with somebody.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
And it's also not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Just because someone's hot and you manage with them and
you go on one day with them, or that you
chat with them, it doesn't mean that you're gonna have
in person chemistry. In fact, it almost there's no guarantee
of that. So I feel like when all those things
come together, it's like, I don't know, why not just
see where this goes? As opposed to me continuing to
invest in you knowing that you're also going out that
you're also actively searching for other people. I mean, I
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can see where Christian's coming from here. He's like, I
like you a lot, I don't want to play this
game anymore. And then you just said, well no, I mean,
so what is it about him that you can't pause
the apps for a week or two just to see
where things go.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I hear, what is honestly I think I'm I mean,
if I'm being honest, I'm just a little afraid of
commitment right now. Like I'm just not entirely sure I
want to be with one person.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
How would you react to kiln if a guy, after
two admittedly great dates and you're talking about a third,
was like, hey, can we can we jump off these
apps for a minute and see where this goes?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
How would you react to that?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
If I'm being honest, I would think it's a little soon,
and I would be a little bit nervous. Not saying
this about you, but I would be a little bit nervous.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I can.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
I mean, that's just my honest answer. I'm sorry, dude,
I don't know. It's a little fast for me.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I mean, Christian, I guess for me, and maybe you're
of the same mindset. But I've been on these things
for a long time, and I know what I'm guilty of.
I'm guilty of. I mean, the apps are designed this way.
It's like you meet someone who's great, but yet you're
you're drawn when you're on them you're in your mind,
You're like, but I'm gonna keep checking them because what
if somebody better comes along? And I think before long
you're only focused on what's new as opposed to what's there,
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and so I feel like it's just you're just continually
drawn back to it. And I guess it's hard to
feel like someone's investing in you when you know that
they're also checking that thing a couple times a day
to see.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But that's dating. Who's next? You know, it's just dating.
It's a form of dating right at that time at
my husband.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
But I didn't want that, you know, to get off
the apps until I knew we were like official.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, I mean, I look, I see both sides, and
I've done it both ways. But I also think, I
don't know. How hard is it to say I don't know.
By the way, another thing that is positive that's come
out of this is that I don't know that Christian,
did you realize that she didn't want to be in
an exclusive relationship, because I don't know that that was implied.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
She didn't make that at all. I mean, if you
want to be you know, I want to be monogamous.
So that's something I guess we didn't get to cover
in the first two days.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So you're dating with intention to be monogamous. She's dating
with intention to keep her options open. There's nothing wrong
with either one of those things, but that is not
you guys are not on the same page about that. Like,
there are plenty of people in the dating apps that
want to keep they just want to see what's out there,
and and then there are people like you that like
they want to be in a relationship. And I think
it sounds like you two are not aligned on that,
and that was going to be a problem anyway. So
(08:30):
I guess I don't have a problem with the conversation
because I mean the ghosting maybe, but the conversation, like,
I don't know, he wants one thing, you want someone else,
so it's probably not going to be a match anyway.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean I think I was created right. It's
like you download the app, you find a person, she
can delete the app.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I guess if you if you really like somebody, it's
like I'd love to get I'd love to like focus
on this and not necessarily have to deal with the
riff raft. But hey, look, you guys are very clearly
looking for different things. And so I guess it's not
a match. I'll ask, but Christian, would you would you
give her another shot? Would you go out with her again?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I mean, I think the writings on the walls they
say it's just not a fit. Like I want someone
who wants to fully commit and try and you know,
be vulnerable, and if you got one fit out the
door the whole time, then you're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So no, but look, I mean she did, in fairness,
even though she wants to quote unquote keep her options open,
she did wonder about you enough to call us and
do all this.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So I mean she obviously liked you.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Yeah, and you never know what happens on the line.
That's why I think it's a little too early to
call it. But hey, what do I know?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
So, but no, that's only day one second, Okay, staying
your ground don't business?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's right business, that's right, key, I mean what about it?
Have you ever been on the dating amps ski? Key? No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
If you're looking to be intentional and be with one person,
then that's your prerogative. She he is, and she's looking
right now to sort of maybe not yet make that
discriminate also her progative. Neither one of them are wrong,
They're just looking for two different things. And look, if
I want a girlfriend and I meet somebody who's amazing
and stands out well above all the rest, that I
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might put more emphasis on trying to make that work.
If I'm looking for a relationship, and if she is too,
then she might be open to that. But yet they're
not looking at the same thing.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
So so how I would say that Fred though, is Hey,
just so you know, you could do whatever you want.
I'm really into you, and I'm going to delete my
app and then you let them respond and it's not
like controlling, you.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
No, I think that makes a lot of sense. I
think that makes a lot of sense. But I can
see the insecurity of knowing that you've got somebody great
and they're like, no, I want to keep going On
other days it's like, well that doesn't Yeah, we're not
building anything then, but that she doesn't want to, so
it's all good. So nobody's really in the wrong, but
it's not going to work out. Guys, thank you so
much for your time. Best of luks at both of you.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
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