August 6, 2025 • 11 mins
AJ is confused why his date won't call him back after having a great time out together... Find out why he got ghosted!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Show. A j good morning, welcome to the show.
How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm doing good. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
You know what for right now? You're welcome. I don't
know how I'm gonna feel in a few minutes. It
could vary, It does vary sometimes, but it's waiting at
the phone. We're trying to figure out if you've been
ghosted by this woman named Melissa. So we got to
know kind of the whole story. How did you meet?
Tell us about any dates that you've been on, and
then where things are now?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, well we met pretty much the same way most
people meet these days. It was on an app bumble.
We went out for drinks and honest good the date
was like super fun, its flirty. I had a really
nice time. We even ended up going back to my
place to hang out afterwards. I was a gentleman and
(00:48):
then I just I don't know what happened. I was
actually really looking forward to, like hang hanging out with
her again.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So the chemistry, the vibeah. Sorry to interrupt you, but
it was all good enough that you wind up back
at your place. That's usually a good sign and you know,
you said you were a gentle and I guess that's
your way of saying you didn't push anything. You weren't
you were like a little little perv. You weren't like
a little creeper.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
No, no, you know, like that's the whole thing, Like
any when you're saying when you in the back of
your place, that shows like comfort levels, Right, I try
to stay very attuned checking in all that. So yeah,
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Okay, So, but normally I would say that's all good,
except she left your house and you've reached out to
try and plan a second date and she hasn't responded
to you at all at all. Well, yeah, that's frustrating.
She's okay, Well I suspect she probably is, but at
least physically mentally, I'm not sure what you did do her.
But let's let's call it lis just a second and
(01:44):
a play song. We'll come back and see if you
can figure out what's going on. It has happened before
where you know, there's been a good explanation, We've been
able to straighten things out, and hopefully that's what happens
here and we can set you up on another date
that we pay for sound good. I hope so, AJ,
let's call it. You guys met on Bumble, You went
on a date, the date went well, you wind up
back at your place. You said that you were a gentleman,
(02:05):
you were well behaved, and you felt like the whole
night was a success. Except you've reached out to her
for another date and you haven't heard anything, and you want.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
To know why exactly. I hope she picks up your call.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You know they tend to. But let's see. Let's see
what happens. Good luck, AJ. Hello, Hi, sus Alyssa, Yes
it is I'll listen. Good morning. My name is Friend.
I'm calling from the Fred Show, the morning radio show,
(02:37):
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now, and I would need your permission
to continue with the call. Can which chat for just
a second? You can hang up any time. I know
it's a little bit surprising, but can we chat for
a minute.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
On the radio radio?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Right on the radio, the radio radio, not the other radio,
but the radio radio. Is it cool if we chat
for a second? Yeah? Sure, well, thank you very much.
We're calling on behalf of a guy who says you
may to him Bumble recently and you went out. His
name is AJ. Do you remember meeting Aj?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yes, I do, I remember meeting Aj.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I figured there might be a story he uh, So
he reached out to us and told us that he
had matched with you and that he planned a date,
and you went out and hung out back at his place.
I guess, but he's puzzled, as he's befuddled, he doesn't
know why you haven't returned his call as he's trying
to plan another date. So it sounds like maybe there's
a story here. What happened?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I mean, yeah, I'm met Aj on the app and
we went out for drinks.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
We were having a good time.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We went back to his house to hang out for
a little bit, and honestly that's.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Where things got weird.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Okay, we were on the couch, things were going nice.
We were clearly about to, you know, start kissing or something.
He actually stops and says, hold on, let me.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Go grab something.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
And when he comes back, he comes back with a
phone and me that he wants to record a video
of me giving consent to hook up so that he
can quote not be me too later, or so that
I couldn't quote me to him later.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So I mean, okay, we don't we live in a
new world, don't we.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I mean he do, but like instead of like letting
things resume, I was really you know, bugged out by it.
So I just made up an excuse and I left,
and honestly I have not communicated with him since.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So now, yeah, you could just never be too careful.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh there's aja the attorney. I guess I was gonna,
you know, give these health can So there's a.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
He wanted to make sure he had consented for that,
but he had no problem on the sneak attack here.
But anyway, so listen, look, so you you were everything
was good, age, I'll get to you. Okay, But everything
was fine except and maybe it would have gone there,
but you thought it was just I don't know, it
just killed the mood when he was like, hey, I
(05:01):
need documentation that that this is cool we're about to do.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, I mean, it completely killed the mood. And it
was completely out of nowhere and it was just not
where I thought things were going. And like, I don't know,
I just I can't believe he called the radio station two.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That's all the things creepy.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
But whatever, Okay, So well to be clear about this,
and so he was misreading the situation, like, you guys
were not going to hook up, You were not interested
in that.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
What I was, I was interested in at least you know,
you got a kiss, like I mean, we were obviously
about to make up or make out.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So he didn't misread the situation. He may have just
sort of over enunciated his need for you to consent,
which I hey, I appreciate that he was thoughtful, but
I also can see how that's kind of unromantic and
it's a fine line. And I also kind of want
to know, Aj, I'll bring you in now, agent. Why
are we why is it? Why are we so emphatic
about this? Like what have you been earned?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Some people not me, man, But it's just scary. You
could just never be too careful these days, you know,
like you think you know someone and then you don't.
Later they can just lie and take everything away that
you've built and worked for your entire life.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
You know, it's a little scary.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
So I mean, what's the big deal and that just
doing that concepting all the rappers get it done too well.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, I mean when I typically have an attorney come
by and we and we do fingerprints inside contracts in blood.
But I mean, you know, I know what you mean.
But yeah, yeah, I guess you know. The hope is
that everyone's on the same page and everybody wants to
be there. She did come over to your house on
her own. She did admit that she wanted to get
with you. I understand being you know, careful, but I
(06:42):
also understand sort of over communication and that can be
a turnof so, you know, it's it's kind of about
maintaining the mood. I don't know you kind of you
seem like you're mixed on this.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I am, because you know, I'm with him. If you
have a lot to lose, sometimes you can never be
too careful.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You know, we're having a serious conversation, and kick, you're
still wearing a pointy birthday hat from yesterday, so from
Camplyn's birthday. But okay, yeah, I mean, but I don't know, ladies, like,
how do you listen? How do you moderate? Like, I mean,
you you went to his house willingly, right, like you
weren't being held captives, so you consented to that. I
want people to be respectful of consent, But I also
(07:22):
think that there's got to be a way to do
it where it doesn't kill the mood.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well, yeah, I mean also it was like our first date,
so and I don't know if you if you can't
kiss somebody without meeting consent, you know what I'm saying, Like,
obviously you're not a rapper or whatever. You didn't make
me sign an NDA before we went and got drinks.
You know, if you're going to be that hyper vigilant
(07:47):
about something, it kind of gives me the impression that
maybe you do have a problem or that you know,
maybe you just need to like meet people in public
places until you guys are both ready to have an
on screen content giving moment, you know, like on your phone.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well that is kind of a tough one because it's
like I've heard the debate before should you ask to
kiss someone? Like can I kiss you? And I've I've
heard both sides of that argued. I've heard people say
you should ask, and I've heard people say no. It's
it's it takes away the element of sort of surprise
or romanticism. I guess you just kind of have to
hopefully read the room appropriately. Mean, do you guys want
to be asked? No? No? No, no?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
See that's and that's the thing, Like I'm trying to
put myself in her. She was like, would I be
offended if the man whipped out the cameras?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Like, hey, I need you to read this line. Video
is a little extreme. I would. That's a little bit
like I'm being held captive, like hold up a newspaper
with the city's date on it, you know, but you know.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Exactly, But if he behaves well, then there should be
no issue, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Like, that's my hard thing with it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
It's like, yeah, it doesn't apply to every dude who's
doing stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, it kind of goes from like all intention to
a little weird. I guess, yeah, it's it's yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Tough out here. It's tough to date everybody dating. I
really apologize.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Well, look listen, I mean I feel like he was
well and he had good intentions. It was well intended,
but it didn't It didn't obviously resonate with you. But
it could be worse. I mean, would you like to
go out with him again? We'll pay for it, and
I guess we can consent to all that right now.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
We have we have witnesses, you know, I do appreciate
the offer. I do, like, honestly cannot believe that this
is happening right now.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But I'm honestly going.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
To have to decline, and I'm going to have to
suggest that a j maybe if like you're that serious
about it, you tell the girl while you're still on
the apps with her, you know, before she even agrees
to an in real life meeting.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Well you won't have to be so you won't have
to do this again.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, like to cender a do Yeah, yeah something, yeah,
something's just really simple. Yeah, I don't know, sun it
on your phone.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Like when people who used to work here, like when
I would take a photo with them, they would put
their arms up in the air as if I was
trying to going to get them for sexual harassment.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Like that's offensive to me. Like, just be a good
person and don't grab my butt and we'll be fine.
That seems like.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I don't want to grab your butt. I should X
or no, don't not at work?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
No you never asked me.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, well you can grab You have consent from me,
all right, in perpetuity, miss Kiki.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Okay, yeah, grab my butt. I don't know. I might
come up with a different approach to come up, I
might devise a different approach to get the same information.
Or to Caitlin's point, just don't be creepy and be
open minded to what people are comfortable with. And maybe
you don't have to go that far.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I mean, I you man, but like, yeah, I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
You think he's the rapper too, right, You don't talk about.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That enough on the radio. She doesn't know I got
her on the radio. I could have been a rapper.
She doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I did that with him.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Just be respectful to women. Just be respectful to yourself,
you know, like if you got like just I don't know,
you definitely need.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
To change your approach and definitely lose my number.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Do not send me your mixtape than give you your time.
Best of luck to both of you. Thank you,
I've ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Show. A j good morning, welcome to the show.
How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm doing good. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
You know what for right now? You're welcome. I don't
know how I'm gonna feel in a few minutes. It
could vary, It does vary sometimes, but it's waiting at
the phone. We're trying to figure out if you've been
ghosted by this woman named Melissa. So we got to
know kind of the whole story. How did you meet?
Tell us about any dates that you've been on, and
then where things are now?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, well we met pretty much the same way most
people meet these days. It was on an app bumble.
We went out for drinks and honest good the date
was like super fun, its flirty. I had a really
nice time. We even ended up going back to my
place to hang out afterwards. I was a gentleman and
(00:48):
then I just I don't know what happened. I was
actually really looking forward to, like hang hanging out with
her again.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So the chemistry, the vibeah. Sorry to interrupt you, but
it was all good enough that you wind up back
at your place. That's usually a good sign and you know,
you said you were a gentle and I guess that's
your way of saying you didn't push anything. You weren't
you were like a little little perv. You weren't like
a little creeper.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
No, no, you know, like that's the whole thing, Like
any when you're saying when you in the back of
your place, that shows like comfort levels, Right, I try
to stay very attuned checking in all that. So yeah,
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Okay, So, but normally I would say that's all good,
except she left your house and you've reached out to
try and plan a second date and she hasn't responded
to you at all at all. Well, yeah, that's frustrating.
She's okay, Well I suspect she probably is, but at
least physically mentally, I'm not sure what you did do her.
But let's let's call it lis just a second and
(01:44):
a play song. We'll come back and see if you
can figure out what's going on. It has happened before
where you know, there's been a good explanation, We've been
able to straighten things out, and hopefully that's what happens
here and we can set you up on another date
that we pay for sound good. I hope so, AJ,
let's call it. You guys met on Bumble, You went
on a date, the date went well, you wind up
back at your place. You said that you were a gentleman,
(02:05):
you were well behaved, and you felt like the whole
night was a success. Except you've reached out to her
for another date and you haven't heard anything, and you want.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
To know why exactly. I hope she picks up your call.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You know they tend to. But let's see. Let's see
what happens. Good luck, AJ. Hello, Hi, sus Alyssa, Yes
it is I'll listen. Good morning. My name is Friend.
I'm calling from the Fred Show, the morning radio show,
(02:37):
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now, and I would need your permission
to continue with the call. Can which chat for just
a second? You can hang up any time. I know
it's a little bit surprising, but can we chat for
a minute.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
On the radio radio?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Right on the radio, the radio radio, not the other radio,
but the radio radio. Is it cool if we chat
for a second? Yeah? Sure, well, thank you very much.
We're calling on behalf of a guy who says you
may to him Bumble recently and you went out. His
name is AJ. Do you remember meeting Aj?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yes, I do, I remember meeting Aj.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I figured there might be a story he uh, So
he reached out to us and told us that he
had matched with you and that he planned a date,
and you went out and hung out back at his place.
I guess, but he's puzzled, as he's befuddled, he doesn't
know why you haven't returned his call as he's trying
to plan another date. So it sounds like maybe there's
a story here. What happened?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I mean, yeah, I'm met Aj on the app and
we went out for drinks.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
We were having a good time.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We went back to his house to hang out for
a little bit, and honestly that's.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Where things got weird.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Okay, we were on the couch, things were going nice.
We were clearly about to, you know, start kissing or something.
He actually stops and says, hold on, let me.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Go grab something.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
And when he comes back, he comes back with a
phone and me that he wants to record a video
of me giving consent to hook up so that he
can quote not be me too later, or so that
I couldn't quote me to him later.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So I mean, okay, we don't we live in a
new world, don't we.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I mean he do, but like instead of like letting
things resume, I was really you know, bugged out by it.
So I just made up an excuse and I left,
and honestly I have not communicated with him since.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So now, yeah, you could just never be too careful.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh there's aja the attorney. I guess I was gonna,
you know, give these health can So there's a.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
He wanted to make sure he had consented for that,
but he had no problem on the sneak attack here.
But anyway, so listen, look, so you you were everything
was good, age, I'll get to you. Okay, But everything
was fine except and maybe it would have gone there,
but you thought it was just I don't know, it
just killed the mood when he was like, hey, I
(05:01):
need documentation that that this is cool we're about to do.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, I mean, it completely killed the mood. And it
was completely out of nowhere and it was just not
where I thought things were going. And like, I don't know,
I just I can't believe he called the radio station two.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That's all the things creepy.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
But whatever, Okay, So well to be clear about this,
and so he was misreading the situation, like, you guys
were not going to hook up, You were not interested
in that.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
What I was, I was interested in at least you know,
you got a kiss, like I mean, we were obviously
about to make up or make out.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So he didn't misread the situation. He may have just
sort of over enunciated his need for you to consent,
which I hey, I appreciate that he was thoughtful, but
I also can see how that's kind of unromantic and
it's a fine line. And I also kind of want
to know, Aj, I'll bring you in now, agent. Why
are we why is it? Why are we so emphatic
about this? Like what have you been earned?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Some people not me, man, But it's just scary. You
could just never be too careful these days, you know,
like you think you know someone and then you don't.
Later they can just lie and take everything away that
you've built and worked for your entire life.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
You know, it's a little scary.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
So I mean, what's the big deal and that just
doing that concepting all the rappers get it done too well.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, I mean when I typically have an attorney come
by and we and we do fingerprints inside contracts in blood.
But I mean, you know, I know what you mean.
But yeah, yeah, I guess you know. The hope is
that everyone's on the same page and everybody wants to
be there. She did come over to your house on
her own. She did admit that she wanted to get
with you. I understand being you know, careful, but I
(06:42):
also understand sort of over communication and that can be
a turnof so, you know, it's it's kind of about
maintaining the mood. I don't know you kind of you
seem like you're mixed on this.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I am, because you know, I'm with him. If you
have a lot to lose, sometimes you can never be
too careful.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You know, we're having a serious conversation, and kick, you're
still wearing a pointy birthday hat from yesterday, so from
Camplyn's birthday. But okay, yeah, I mean, but I don't know, ladies, like,
how do you listen? How do you moderate? Like, I mean,
you you went to his house willingly, right, like you
weren't being held captives, so you consented to that. I
want people to be respectful of consent, But I also
(07:22):
think that there's got to be a way to do
it where it doesn't kill the mood.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well, yeah, I mean also it was like our first date,
so and I don't know if you if you can't
kiss somebody without meeting consent, you know what I'm saying, Like,
obviously you're not a rapper or whatever. You didn't make
me sign an NDA before we went and got drinks.
You know, if you're going to be that hyper vigilant
(07:47):
about something, it kind of gives me the impression that
maybe you do have a problem or that you know,
maybe you just need to like meet people in public
places until you guys are both ready to have an
on screen content giving moment, you know, like on your phone.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well that is kind of a tough one because it's
like I've heard the debate before should you ask to
kiss someone? Like can I kiss you? And I've I've
heard both sides of that argued. I've heard people say
you should ask, and I've heard people say no. It's
it's it takes away the element of sort of surprise
or romanticism. I guess you just kind of have to
hopefully read the room appropriately. Mean, do you guys want
to be asked? No? No? No, no?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
See that's and that's the thing, Like I'm trying to
put myself in her. She was like, would I be
offended if the man whipped out the cameras?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Like, hey, I need you to read this line. Video
is a little extreme. I would. That's a little bit
like I'm being held captive, like hold up a newspaper
with the city's date on it, you know, but you know.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Exactly, But if he behaves well, then there should be
no issue, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Like, that's my hard thing with it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
It's like, yeah, it doesn't apply to every dude who's
doing stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, it kind of goes from like all intention to
a little weird. I guess, yeah, it's it's yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Tough out here. It's tough to date everybody dating. I
really apologize.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Well, look listen, I mean I feel like he was
well and he had good intentions. It was well intended,
but it didn't It didn't obviously resonate with you. But
it could be worse. I mean, would you like to
go out with him again? We'll pay for it, and
I guess we can consent to all that right now.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
We have we have witnesses, you know, I do appreciate
the offer. I do, like, honestly cannot believe that this
is happening right now.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But I'm honestly going.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
To have to decline, and I'm going to have to
suggest that a j maybe if like you're that serious
about it, you tell the girl while you're still on
the apps with her, you know, before she even agrees
to an in real life meeting.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Well you won't have to be so you won't have
to do this again.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, like to cender a do Yeah, yeah something, yeah,
something's just really simple. Yeah, I don't know, sun it
on your phone.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Like when people who used to work here, like when
I would take a photo with them, they would put
their arms up in the air as if I was
trying to going to get them for sexual harassment.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Like that's offensive to me. Like, just be a good
person and don't grab my butt and we'll be fine.
That seems like.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I don't want to grab your butt. I should X
or no, don't not at work?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
No you never asked me.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, well you can grab You have consent from me,
all right, in perpetuity, miss Kiki.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Okay, yeah, grab my butt. I don't know. I might
come up with a different approach to come up, I
might devise a different approach to get the same information.
Or to Caitlin's point, just don't be creepy and be
open minded to what people are comfortable with. And maybe
you don't have to go that far.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I mean, I you man, but like, yeah, I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
You think he's the rapper too, right, You don't talk about.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That enough on the radio. She doesn't know I got
her on the radio. I could have been a rapper.
She doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I did that with him.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Just be respectful to women. Just be respectful to yourself,
you know, like if you got like just I don't know,
you definitely need.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
To change your approach and definitely lose my number.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Do not send me your mixtape than give you your time.
Best of luck to both of you. Thank you,
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