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August 19, 2025 12 mins

Liz is confused why her date Noah won't call her back after a fun time together... Find out why she got ghosted!

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(00:41):
by the phone? It's the Fred Show. Liz, good morning,
Welcome to the program. How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Good morning?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Program?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Huh that sounds serious the program?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, I saw I say it sometimes. But what's going
on with this guy? Noah? We want to help you
out on waiting by the phone. You feel like maybe
you're being ghosted? Tell us kind of everything. How did
you guys meet? I want to hear about any dates
you've been on, any details you want to share, and
we're going to try and figure this out.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Right, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
So, yeah, I met Noah through this indoor volleyball league.
We both joined this winter, one of them, one of
the sports like social club companies.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Sure, I just kind of wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
To do something active being that it was colder outside
and uh not for nothing, but I heard there were
a lot of single men there, so why not.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, people do that with volleyball. They have like softball leagues.
You can sign up for soccer stuff. Yeah right, yeah,
and it's all just guys is like being active, but
let's face it, people trying to get some Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I mean, yeah, fade right, it's all good.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, I'm a little too lazy for that. But still
I got to go kick a ball to meet some
I mean, like, no, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
But then you can go you can go to the
trivia meet groups.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I mean also'd have to leave the house for that,
but I just I'm just hoping one day A doordask
driver is the hottest person I've ever seen, male or
female at this point, just whatever, okay, Yeah, and engaging
in his doordask career. Okay, so you you joined on
a door.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
To ask Side note, have you been getting male names
and then a female shows up? Or female names and
then a male shows up?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
You keeps hopping to this?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yes, thank you? Yeah, that actually makes me a little
nervous side note because it's like, well, then, who whose
account is this registered? Like why can't you deliver? Who
is the person who actually is showing up? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
He asked the guy the other day and he said
it was his.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Mom's Oh wow, like why were you ya? Okay, so
you you joined this league to meet a person, and
then what happens?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I mete a person? I met Noah And it was
after a few weeks there, and we started talking about
getting a drink after volleyball, and uh we did, and
I think it went really well. So I know it
went really well because we planned a second date, which
was more drinks and dinner and uh again I say,
and dinner and that went really really well. So we

(03:07):
went back to his place, we had some fun, and
then uh Noah built the arc and rode away into
the sunset.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Okay, So after two days and a hookup. You never
heard from him again. He never called or test I
mean typical okay, and you reached down and it was more.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I'm sorry to cut you off. It was kind of
more of like a fade away. It wasn't just like
a disappear. The messages got shorter and shorter and then
eventually stopped. So I don't know what the deal is.
This was not like a random thing. We like really
got to know each other and then hooked up. It
wasn't like one of those things where we just kind
of hooked up and he disappeared. So I didn't think
this was appropriate time for a fade away.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Huh. All right, well, and after two dates and all
the rest of it. So here's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna call Noah in just a second. You'll be
on the phone leaves at the same time. We're gonna
ask some questions. At some point you're welcome to jump in,
and the hope is that we can straighten it all
out and set you up on another date that we
pay for. Hey, Liz, I'm here, all right, let's call Noah.
You guys, you went on a couple of dates. You
met actually out in the wild at one of those

(04:07):
like sort of sports social things. You guys were being
active together, which is so exciting and which it makes sense.
I see why people you know, meet that way, especially
when it's cold. Some kind of indoor event makes sense.
You meet this guy, you go on two dates. The
last date you hooked up, you thought everything was really
headed in one direction. But you have not heard from

(04:28):
this man since then. You feel like he's ghosting you.
You want to know why. That sums it up pretty well.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
All right, well let's call him now. Good luck, Liz.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Thanks?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Is this Noah?

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
No, hey a, Hi, good morning. My name is Fred.
I'm calling for the Fred's Show, the morning radio show,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now, and I would need your permission
to continue with the call. Can which have for just
a second? You can hang up anytime, I guess, yeah, Well,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
No.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
We're calling on behalf of a woman named Liz, who
I guess you met. You were playing sports together, the
door volleyball, and you went on a couple of dates.
You remember, Liz, I do, Okay, so she called us
that it's oh well, hold on, I just wanted to
tell you where we're at here. She called us and
liked you a lot, told us about the couple of
dates that you guys have been on, but says that

(05:22):
you haven't reached out since. And so I'm just curious
and maybe you maybe you knew what I was going
to ask, But you know, why is that? Are you
ghosting her?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I think it? First of all, let's just start here.
It's insane that you guys are calling me, first off,
and secondly, especially for her. Oh she's we We did
meet playing volleyball. It was great, We got along well,
we went out a few times, we had some fun.
And then you know, uh, you know, something kind of
struck me as wrong the whole time, and I just

(05:52):
really pultn't my finger on it. And then finally, you know,
the night that she stayed over and we you know,
I kind of put two and two together and I
realize that, you know, this guy that she's been talking
about all the time, and if she talks about this
best friend of hers that she's been best friends with
for you know, for a long time, and all of

(06:14):
a sudden, I don't know where I put it together
that this best friend of hers is her ex boyfriend. Now,
these two spend time together, they go to family things together,
They sleep in the same bed at least once a
week together. Like that's uh, that's not cool with me.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Okay. So so Noah, you're getting to know Liz. You
guys are going on these dates. And she keeps referring
to this best friend of hers and all the different
activities they do together. And I don't know, like if
I guess if it's me and I hear that they're
sleeping in the same bed and they're hanging out constantly
and family stuff. If I'm being really honest, I just
assume it's a gay best friend. If it's a guy,
I mean, it sounds like it sounds like, you know,

(06:50):
pretty intimate. If you have if you have a romantic
friend or a male female dynamic that's like that, I
would assume you would date that person. Well, it turns
out they did. They date, but they still do all
these things eleven years, eleven years and so even years
and it sounds like they're still dating. It kind of
sounds that way, but she describes this man as her ex.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, so she's got this guy in her life that
does everything with her. What does she need Noah for?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh? My god, what does she need Noah for? In
the third person, I would I agree, what does she
need Noah for? And here to answer that question is Liz.
I forgot to mention that Liz is here.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Liz.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
You left Ali the ex Ele. That is a very
honest reaction. You left out the eleven year relationship dude
who still sleeps in bed with you once a week,
You left that out.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I mean, I mean, first of all, I can't believe
how insecure Noah is. I mean, a girl can't be
close friends with a guy. I mean, first of all, well, well,
I have so much to say. I can't even believe
he's freaking out about this. It's so crazy. I mean,
me and me and my ex are not meant to
be together and it's not physical at all, but will

(08:00):
always love each other. You know, He's always going to
be a staple in my life. He's my best friend
for many years, and we just we tried the dating
thing and it didn't.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's not for us.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
I mean, I bet a hundred bucks that he would
feel differently if Matt Matt my ex, if he was
a woman.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Conversations, Well, I mean, honestly, if it was a woman
who you had data for eleven years, I think the
concern would be the same. I mean, what we're talking.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
About in vegetable standards.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I don't think so. What we're talking about here is
a is a relationship of eleven years that was at
one point romantic, and it sounds like it's everything and
you're saying, but the sex, but it sounds like it's
every bit as intimate as it was. And so another
person comes along and they're like, wait a minute, that
would be my job, and that dude's not going anywhere,
and you're talking about it so openly. I guess I

(08:48):
can see the reservations.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I mean, like, I just I understand to a degree.
But it's just like something you got to get over.
Like they'll meet, they'll hang out, and he'll realize this
guy is not done, and.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
He'll realize run the best friend. Yeah, that that's going
to be in your bed by ten pm? Because why
are you sharing?

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Bay?

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'm gay and I don't sleep in a back with
many of the why your bad at girl?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I mean, you know struggles for cuddles, man? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
It is physical? In fact, I would argue that's more
intimate than other things that you could do in bed.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
I mean, I live.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Teddy Bear, you know. I mean, I've heard this before
the guys like, well, I guess you can't have chex
without the eggs.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
But huh, it's it's it's the level of intimacy though,
it's it's it's the lack of boundaries. Like if I'm
a guy trying to date you, and I can see
it from a mile away that there's this other guy
who's very much fulfilling a lot of that role, then
I might ask the same questions like well, what am
I here for? But again, like.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
If it was a female, even if even if we
did it, if it was a female and we were
laying in bed to other and going out and playing volumes,
doing all these things the other, then nobody would have anything.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
To say about I can honestly tell you that the
differentiating factor is the fact that you were romantic. And
I know that you'd think I'm bsing you as a guy,
as a straight dude. But if I dated a woman
or met a woman and found out that she was
she spent that much time and had that much level
of intimacy and that level of closeness with a woman
who she used to date. That would concern me too.

(10:26):
I don't care if it's a man or a woman.
It's more what are you gonna like, why is this
other person? Why there are no boundaries?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's an it's my best friend. I mean, if you
wants to be my best friend and bought my best
friend out of the picture, I just think that just
sounds jealous and possessive and insecure, and you'd be missing
out on a.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Green You can have best friends that don't cuddle with
you in bed at night once a week, I'm told.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I mean, it's literally like sleeping with my dog.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I mean, I did not date my dog for eleven years.
You know, I caught it with my dog. But yeah,
it's also a dog. It's not a human being who
you went slept with. And and and I mean your family.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, once left with many many many years ago, and
he's still friends with my family and they love him.
And it's like, yeah, I mean, I just I don't get.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
It, and I guess I'm just surprisedly is that you
can't see even though you clearly understand this and feel
comfortable with it. I guess I'm surprised you can't, you know,
sort of put the shoe on the other foot and say,
would you like it if Noah had this woman in
bed with him when he was texting you and it's
not an intimate, it's not sexual. But but there's a
woman who sleeps in bed with him. It's not you.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I mean, I guess I can see your point,
but I feel like, I don't know. I feel I'm
a little more open minded in this field. I guess
a lot of people have an issue with it. So
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I don't know, all right, So.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
The guys are going if you know about this right too,
I don't know if it would ever work out if
Matt you that you didn't approve anyway, So.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
No, so Matt, Matt gets the best friend, gets to
make the decision. Then, so we ask Matt.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
He didn't get to make the decision.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
But he gets a vote in who you dated? Oh boy,
your ex boyfriend gets a vote in who you date next? Well,
he's in bed with you. Look, I mean, if it
works for you, that's fine, but you got to realize
it's it's not going to work for a lot of
other yeah, okay, Well anyway, look, I'll ask the question, Noah,
do you want to try again? Maybe madd will come,

(12:30):
Maybe you could eat Mad, do the interview, go through
the interview process.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Pull for my body.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh more clear. Wow, that's aggressive, that's okay. So that's
a no for Noah. All right, Look, I wish you
the best of blocks. Sounds like you got a great friendship,
and I hope that you can find somebody who's coming
through with all of them. Okay, Noah,

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