October 21, 2025 • 10 mins
Adam is confused why his date Kristine won't call him back after a fun night out... Find out why he got ghosted!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It's the Fred Show. Adam, good morning, Welcome to the program.
How are you? I'm all right.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Do it okay? What's going on with this woman? Kristen?
I gotta know how you met, about any dates that
you've been on and where things are now? In waiting
by the phone because you feel like maybe she's ghosting you?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Right? Well?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, I mean though me and Kristin I met by
the pool at our gym one weekend, and I mean
we were both just kind of hanging out with friends
and so like both we were both in the pool
and we just kind of started talking and so like
I was like, I really want this conversation to keep going.
So I asked her out and she said yes, so
she gave me your number, and so like we texted
(01:16):
for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
And then we decided that we wanted to take it further,
so we met up for drinks and the like drinks
that week. We ended up doing really really well and.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So like even before the date, like our artechts were
getting super super party and I mean even even a
little icy to a certain point, and so like, and
then when we met, we had like just this in
person chemistry that didn't disappoint and it was going really
really good. Like I mean I was even late to
work the next day because like we had ended up
(01:47):
having so much late night fun.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
But I mean ever since that date, like I just
haven't heard from her, and I don't know what's going on.
Things were going well. She agreed that things were going well,
and I mean, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, it's always kind of crazy when this happens, because
it's like everything was going so well. I mean the
way you describe it, all this chemistry and all this
sort of you know, fun stuff, going on at night,
you're late to work. I mean, this is all this
all sounds great, except for whatever reason, something must have happened.
And now I assume you've texted, You've called Christen, you've
(02:21):
you know, carried your pigeons and smoke signals and everything. Yeah,
I mean I didn't.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Like send her an over abundant, like desperate amount of
text but like I did a couple of check in texts.
They even tried to call her one night and on
like one of the nights we had like at a
new stupree because that was the night that she had
a preset schedule with work, and so like those were
usually the nights we would like talk over the phone,
and so like I tried to call her one night
(02:45):
and she just didn't pick up. And so I don't
want to be like a stalker and keep texting, and yeah,
we don't know what, but I just kind of want
to know what's going on. Like they were going really
really well and then nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah makes sense. So we're going to play a song,
come back in a couple of minutes. We'll all Kristin,
you'll be on the phone, Adham. We're gonna ask these
questions for you, and the hope is that maybe she's
been busy or who knows what's going on. Hey, Adam,
all right, let's call Kristin. You guys, you met at
the gym, right. You met at the gym, and you're
(03:17):
at the pool right with with your friends, and you
hit it off and we're chatting and everything went well,
exchange numbers, texted, you know, things kind of got there
was a lot of flirtation going on. They got a
little spicy, kicky, They got a little spicy by his uh,
by his description, and you guys have gone out and
had a great time, and then all of a sudden
radio silence, Kristin is not responding to you like she
(03:37):
normally would. It appears that you're being ghosted. You want
to know why. Okay, let's call Kristin now. Good luck, Adam.
I appreciate it, but thinks HI is this Kristin? Hey Kristin,
good morning. My name is Fredam calling for the Fred Show,
(03:58):
the morning radio show, and I have to tell you
we are on the radio right now, and I do
need your permission to continue with the call. Said, okay,
if we have for a second.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I guess, I guess I guess that's yes.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Okay, well thank you. We're calling out behalf of a
guy named Adam. I guess you met him at the
at the pool and you hung out a couple of times,
and uh, I guess you guys went on some dates
and stuff like that. Do you remember meeting this guy
and going out with him?
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Sure? Okay, So he describes to us a minute ago
what he thought was, you know, this this great story
about meeting and all the chemistry you guys had, the
dates you've been on. But he says he can't get
a hold of you now, So what's going on with that?
Why are we ignoring Adam?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Okay, listen, Adam is awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Okay, he's attractive, he's charming, he's confident, he has great energy.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Okay, what's the butt? Where's the problem? I want to
go out with it? So we did.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
We did go out. Okay, just sex was amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
But okay, so interesting, Okay, all right, just wait for it.
He's leaving my place and you know.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
He's talking about, you know, meeting up again, and he
just casually slips in now you know, Oh, he just
has to work it around, you know, like his kids
swim schedule, which okay, yeah, cool, you've got kids, fine,
and his wife's works schedule. Oh how do you think
I felt having just had this amazing night with this
(05:28):
man and all of a sudden learning that he.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Has a wife. Okay, so hold us. So you guys,
you met, you talked, you hooked up, you went on dates.
You didn't mention a way he never mentioned that he
was married. And then like in passing he's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
maybe tomorrow, but if my wife can pick up the kids.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Cos it out there like it's nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And you didn't know anything about this. You didn't know
there was a wife.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I knew nothing about it. I would have never gone
out with him.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That's that's a details.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I had known that he had a wife.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Be helpful to know. Let me bring Adam, and I
forgot to mention kristin the Adam is here. I'm very forgetful. Also,
you're married, Adam, and that that's just not important to know.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I mean, did I forget to mention that?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I mean, yeah, yeah, you forgot to mention that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
No, I'm non monogamous and my wife has agreed to
everything to an open relationship. She doesn't want to live
that life, and so she says that I'm I'm available
to do whatever I would like because she would like
me to be happy in that respect, but she just
doesn't want to know about it.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
So she doesn't want to know about it, like.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Really, and that would be interesting is to see, because
I mean, honestly, madam, what you're describing is.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Not I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I don't believe that what are you describing. I have
heard of existing before.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Where I have to But the wife actually like agrees
and like she's available to like talk to, you know,
potential partners.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
It's like they don't believe.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
A few she says she's wanting to doing it. But
at the same time, it's yeadam, you got it. I'm
trying to but you you got to disclose that the
other person involved in this needs to have all the
information because maybe like in this case, Kristin is not
comfortable with this arrangement even if it's above board in
your house exactly, and.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I mean it's about board. Why can't I talk to her?
I have trying to, you know, with this.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Kind of a lifestyle, and they're always allowed to talk
to the spouse and get it verified. That's all I'm
asking for, Like, if this is above board, The only
way I could participate in this is if I got
to talk to your wife and she said, yay.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Verily she can do this.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Okay, That's the only way.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Adam, I can her about like a verification thing, Like,
that's not problem. I'm not trying to find anything. Like
she just was very like she just very much said
she doesn't want to know about it if I'm being
involved with another person.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But I mean, that's let's say that Adam's telling the truth.
I'm just going to give him the benefit of the
mount and he is telling the truth. You're saying that
if you could talk to her and verify, you might
be interested. But my question to Adam answer you, Kristin
is are you not upset or concerned about how this
might define the relationship. Because even if it's okay, Adam,
(08:07):
what's the likelihood you leave your wife? What's the likelihood
you wind up committed to Kristen in a relationship like
without I mean, Kristin, do you want to be a
third member of a dynamic? Sign up for that when
you meet a guy or you when you guys start
talking and no one just closes this sort of open
relationship thing. I mean, in your mind, it's it's what
(08:27):
I make it for me, right, So, adam you if
you fall in love with Kristin, well, are you going
to leave your wife? I mean that's pretty unlikely.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
But I mean also Kristen said that she didn't want kids,
so I mean, I don't know what's to stop us
from doing this, Like.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It'll make me feel like I'm a cheater. I'm a
cheater for the entire length of our relationship.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
How do I introduce you to people? Well? Then, but
like I just want to try to figure out is okay?
So so let's say it's all on the up and up?
I mean, is that just so that you know you
haven't been cheating and and you're gonna dump this guy?
Or like if she says, yeah, it's true, I let
him do it, then are you okay with those terms?
Because he just said he's not leaving his wife. So basically,
now you can accept that you're.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Going to be if there's no chance of him leaving
his wife. And I'm just like some weird little secret. Yeah,
I'm probably not interested honestly, Like I just I don't
think I can live with that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I can't live that way on your head, Kiki, what
because this is in like he's insane. This is insane.
Like you, if your wife gave you the green light
to do whatever you want to do, do it. But
why bring in people unknowingly, like hey my wife, I
have a wife. You don't tell somebody after the fact.
I think you gotta lay that out for me. I think, Adam,
you know that a lot of people are gonna say
(09:41):
no to this situation, and you didn't want Christin to
say no, so you just didn't tell her. That's what
I really lied, lied, And I can accept that, right, Okay?
Do we have an accountable person on that? It's impossible.
I do think you gotta you gotta lead with it, Adam,
Like you got to tell people, hey, I'm in an
open relationship, like I got a wife and kids, and
(10:02):
that's not going to change because everything changes now for
Kristen because maybe she didn't want to be an accessory.
Maybe she didn't want to be just you know the
side thing. Maybe she wants you to all to herself,
and she has every right to make that decision. But
if she doesn't know, then look here we are.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
It's just really disrespectful, is really what it comes down to.
It's incredibly disrespectful and it puts the other person in a.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Place where they feel dirty.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
And she's, yeah, have you.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Ever had this problem before, Adam? I mean I assume
you've been doing this for a little while, Like if
you had this issue, where when do you normally lead
with it? You normally tell people up friend or no.
I mean usually the kind of gauge how how things go. First,
it's not going to work out. Kristin, Hey, thank you
for your time, and I'm sorry that you know this
happened to you and I wish you to mess an Adam.
Good luck out there to you as well.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Thank you
This is the Fread Show. Each time celebrate the holiday
season with Mariah Carey's Christmas Time in Las Vegas. It's
November twenty eighth through December thirteenth, Adobe Live at Park
MGM and you could be going a trip or two
to the December twelfth show at two Night's Day at
Park MGM December twelfth through to fourteenth and round trip airfare.
(00:21):
Text touch to five seven seven three nine right now
for a chance to win. A confirmation text will be
sent standard message and data rates may apply. It's all
thanks to Live Nation. Never been left waiting by the phone.
It's the Fred Show. Adam, good morning, Welcome to the program.
How are you? I'm all right.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Do it okay? What's going on with this woman? Kristen?
I gotta know how you met, about any dates that
you've been on and where things are now? In waiting
by the phone because you feel like maybe she's ghosting you?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Right? Well?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, I mean though me and Kristin I met by
the pool at our gym one weekend, and I mean
we were both just kind of hanging out with friends
and so like both we were both in the pool
and we just kind of started talking and so like
I was like, I really want this conversation to keep going.
So I asked her out and she said yes, so
she gave me your number, and so like we texted
(01:16):
for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
And then we decided that we wanted to take it further,
so we met up for drinks and the like drinks
that week. We ended up doing really really well and.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So like even before the date, like our artechts were
getting super super party and I mean even even a
little icy to a certain point, and so like, and
then when we met, we had like just this in
person chemistry that didn't disappoint and it was going really
really good. Like I mean I was even late to
work the next day because like we had ended up
(01:47):
having so much late night fun.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
But I mean ever since that date, like I just
haven't heard from her, and I don't know what's going on.
Things were going well. She agreed that things were going well,
and I mean, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, it's always kind of crazy when this happens, because
it's like everything was going so well. I mean the
way you describe it, all this chemistry and all this
sort of you know, fun stuff, going on at night,
you're late to work. I mean, this is all this
all sounds great, except for whatever reason, something must have happened.
And now I assume you've texted, You've called Christen, you've
(02:21):
you know, carried your pigeons and smoke signals and everything. Yeah,
I mean I didn't.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Like send her an over abundant, like desperate amount of
text but like I did a couple of check in texts.
They even tried to call her one night and on
like one of the nights we had like at a
new stupree because that was the night that she had
a preset schedule with work, and so like those were
usually the nights we would like talk over the phone,
and so like I tried to call her one night
(02:45):
and she just didn't pick up. And so I don't
want to be like a stalker and keep texting, and yeah,
we don't know what, but I just kind of want
to know what's going on. Like they were going really
really well and then nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah makes sense. So we're going to play a song,
come back in a couple of minutes. We'll all Kristin,
you'll be on the phone, Adham. We're gonna ask these
questions for you, and the hope is that maybe she's
been busy or who knows what's going on. Hey, Adam,
all right, let's call Kristin. You guys, you met at
the gym, right. You met at the gym, and you're
(03:17):
at the pool right with with your friends, and you
hit it off and we're chatting and everything went well,
exchange numbers, texted, you know, things kind of got there
was a lot of flirtation going on. They got a
little spicy, kicky, They got a little spicy by his uh,
by his description, and you guys have gone out and
had a great time, and then all of a sudden
radio silence, Kristin is not responding to you like she
(03:37):
normally would. It appears that you're being ghosted. You want
to know why. Okay, let's call Kristin now. Good luck, Adam.
I appreciate it, but thinks HI is this Kristin? Hey Kristin,
good morning. My name is Fredam calling for the Fred Show,
(03:58):
the morning radio show, and I have to tell you
we are on the radio right now, and I do
need your permission to continue with the call. Said, okay,
if we have for a second.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I guess, I guess I guess that's yes.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Okay, well thank you. We're calling out behalf of a
guy named Adam. I guess you met him at the
at the pool and you hung out a couple of times,
and uh, I guess you guys went on some dates
and stuff like that. Do you remember meeting this guy
and going out with him?
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Sure? Okay, So he describes to us a minute ago
what he thought was, you know, this this great story
about meeting and all the chemistry you guys had, the
dates you've been on. But he says he can't get
a hold of you now, So what's going on with that?
Why are we ignoring Adam?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Okay, listen, Adam is awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Okay, he's attractive, he's charming, he's confident, he has great energy.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Okay, what's the butt? Where's the problem? I want to
go out with it? So we did.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
We did go out. Okay, just sex was amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
But okay, so interesting, Okay, all right, just wait for it.
He's leaving my place and you know.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
He's talking about, you know, meeting up again, and he
just casually slips in now you know, Oh, he just
has to work it around, you know, like his kids
swim schedule, which okay, yeah, cool, you've got kids, fine,
and his wife's works schedule. Oh how do you think
I felt having just had this amazing night with this
(05:28):
man and all of a sudden learning that he.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Has a wife. Okay, so hold us. So you guys,
you met, you talked, you hooked up, you went on dates.
You didn't mention a way he never mentioned that he
was married. And then like in passing he's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
maybe tomorrow, but if my wife can pick up the kids.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Cos it out there like it's nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And you didn't know anything about this. You didn't know
there was a wife.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I knew nothing about it. I would have never gone
out with him.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That's that's a details.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I had known that he had a wife.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Be helpful to know. Let me bring Adam, and I
forgot to mention kristin the Adam is here. I'm very forgetful. Also,
you're married, Adam, and that that's just not important to know.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I mean, did I forget to mention that?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I mean, yeah, yeah, you forgot to mention that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
No, I'm non monogamous and my wife has agreed to
everything to an open relationship. She doesn't want to live
that life, and so she says that I'm I'm available
to do whatever I would like because she would like
me to be happy in that respect, but she just
doesn't want to know about it.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
So she doesn't want to know about it, like.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Really, and that would be interesting is to see, because
I mean, honestly, madam, what you're describing is.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Not I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I don't believe that what are you describing. I have
heard of existing before.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Where I have to But the wife actually like agrees
and like she's available to like talk to, you know,
potential partners.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
It's like they don't believe.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
A few she says she's wanting to doing it. But
at the same time, it's yeadam, you got it. I'm
trying to but you you got to disclose that the
other person involved in this needs to have all the
information because maybe like in this case, Kristin is not
comfortable with this arrangement even if it's above board in
your house exactly, and.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I mean it's about board. Why can't I talk to her?
I have trying to, you know, with this.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Kind of a lifestyle, and they're always allowed to talk
to the spouse and get it verified. That's all I'm
asking for, Like, if this is above board, The only
way I could participate in this is if I got
to talk to your wife and she said, yay.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Verily she can do this.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Okay, That's the only way.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Adam, I can her about like a verification thing, Like,
that's not problem. I'm not trying to find anything. Like
she just was very like she just very much said
she doesn't want to know about it if I'm being
involved with another person.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But I mean, that's let's say that Adam's telling the truth.
I'm just going to give him the benefit of the
mount and he is telling the truth. You're saying that
if you could talk to her and verify, you might
be interested. But my question to Adam answer you, Kristin
is are you not upset or concerned about how this
might define the relationship. Because even if it's okay, Adam,
(08:07):
what's the likelihood you leave your wife? What's the likelihood
you wind up committed to Kristen in a relationship like
without I mean, Kristin, do you want to be a
third member of a dynamic? Sign up for that when
you meet a guy or you when you guys start
talking and no one just closes this sort of open
relationship thing. I mean, in your mind, it's it's what
(08:27):
I make it for me, right, So, adam you if
you fall in love with Kristin, well, are you going
to leave your wife? I mean that's pretty unlikely.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
But I mean also Kristen said that she didn't want kids,
so I mean, I don't know what's to stop us
from doing this, Like.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It'll make me feel like I'm a cheater. I'm a
cheater for the entire length of our relationship.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
How do I introduce you to people? Well? Then, but
like I just want to try to figure out is okay?
So so let's say it's all on the up and up?
I mean, is that just so that you know you
haven't been cheating and and you're gonna dump this guy?
Or like if she says, yeah, it's true, I let
him do it, then are you okay with those terms?
Because he just said he's not leaving his wife. So basically,
now you can accept that you're.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Going to be if there's no chance of him leaving
his wife. And I'm just like some weird little secret. Yeah,
I'm probably not interested honestly, Like I just I don't
think I can live with that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I can't live that way on your head, Kiki, what
because this is in like he's insane. This is insane.
Like you, if your wife gave you the green light
to do whatever you want to do, do it. But
why bring in people unknowingly, like hey my wife, I
have a wife. You don't tell somebody after the fact.
I think you gotta lay that out for me. I think, Adam,
you know that a lot of people are gonna say
(09:41):
no to this situation, and you didn't want Christin to
say no, so you just didn't tell her. That's what
I really lied, lied, And I can accept that, right, Okay?
Do we have an accountable person on that? It's impossible.
I do think you gotta you gotta lead with it, Adam,
Like you got to tell people, hey, I'm in an
open relationship, like I got a wife and kids, and
(10:02):
that's not going to change because everything changes now for
Kristen because maybe she didn't want to be an accessory.
Maybe she didn't want to be just you know the
side thing. Maybe she wants you to all to herself,
and she has every right to make that decision. But
if she doesn't know, then look here we are.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
It's just really disrespectful, is really what it comes down to.
It's incredibly disrespectful and it puts the other person in a.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Place where they feel dirty.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
And she's, yeah, have you.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Ever had this problem before, Adam? I mean I assume
you've been doing this for a little while, Like if
you had this issue, where when do you normally lead
with it? You normally tell people up friend or no.
I mean usually the kind of gauge how how things go. First,
it's not going to work out. Kristin, Hey, thank you
for your time, and I'm sorry that you know this
happened to you and I wish you to mess an Adam.
Good luck out there to you as well.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Thank you
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CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist
It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.