December 4, 2025 • 10 mins
Johan is confused why his date Paige won't call him back after a fun night out... Find out why he got ghosted!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's the Fread Show. Hey, Jonah, good morning, welcome to
the program. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm good, I'm good, Yeah, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm doing all right. Trying to help you out here
though it's waiting by the phone. So what's going on
with this woman? Page? Like, I need to know how
you met, about any dates you've been on, and then
where things are now, and then how we can help.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Obviously we met on the apps. You know most people
I guess meeting that way. But you know we had
a great first date. We went out after talking on
the after a little while and went out and and
you know we went back to my place and had
an even better time. Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You know, Oh, okay, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Not you know, she's uh, and then she just straight
ghosted me afterwards, like and what I don't understand is like,
you know, we had a good time, we had a
great time. If she was down to go back to
my place and hook up, you know, why why the ghosting?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You know why she goes to me now I'd like
to see her again, I would.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Say most of the time. I've been doing this for
a long We've all been doing these calls for a
long time, so I mean, I would normally say when
someone on a first date wants to go home with
you that that's a good thing. So everything was good
until that point, I guess. But now you're not able
to get a hold of this woman. You've called her,
you've texted her, you've tried, and she's not responding to
(01:52):
you at all.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Not at all, like straight ghosted, which you know, it's
not like anything bad happens. We had a good time,
you know, we fun. Yeah, nothing weird, nothing, you know,
it was just I don't know, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
All right.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, look, Jonah, we'll be the judge of that in
just a second. Okay, we're gonna find out what's going on.
We're gonna call Page, see if we can get her
on the phone, ask some questions. You'll be on the
phone at the same time, and you welcome to jump
in at some point. And the hope, as always is
that we can straighten this out, figure out what's going on,
set you guys up on another date, and pay for it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
All right, I would love that, Thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Hey Jonah? Yeah, all right, let's call it Page. You
guys met on one of the dating apps. You went
on a date. You felt like it was a successful date,
so much so that she wound up going back to
your place after the dinner and the drinks or whatever
you guys did. But you have not heard from this
woman since then, and it's bugging you because obviously you
liked whatever happened and liked her and wanted to see
(02:48):
her again, and now you can't.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
You can't find her absolutely, ye, Have you guys can
help me track her down?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
That'd be great.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
We're gonna find out right now. Good luck? Man?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Hi is this Page?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I hate Page. Good morning.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
My name is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred Show,
the Morning radio show, and I have to tell you
that we are on the radio right now, and I
would need your permission to continue with the calls and
cool if we chat for just a second. Uh, Okay,
I know, I know it's kind of strange and I'm
sorry to sort of barge in on your life like this,
but you're welcome to hang up in any time. We're
calling on behalf of a guy who reached out to
(03:29):
us for help. His name is Jonah. Do you remember
going on a date with Jonah? Yes? I do, all right, Well,
he described to us what he thought was a really
good date. He liked you a lot. He did say
that you guys wandered back at his place. He didn't
get into detail about that, but he says he hasn't
heard from you since then, So what's going on?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Why are you ghosting Jonah? It looks like, oh my.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
God, this is so embarrassing.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Okay, yes we went on a date, but god, I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Wouldn't normally kiss and tell like this is mortifying, But
it's kind of like why.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I guess it's a safe place.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
This is a safe place page and he asked us
to do this, So you're welcome to say whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Okay. So after we hooked.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Up, Jonah was so rude, Like the second we finished,
he was up and collecting my things so that I
could get dressed, and he was like, what's your address?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I'll call you an uber?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Oh what a gentleman? Was it? Fred? Stop it right now?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I'm it takes me a few minutes to get everything together,
so just come on. So okay, so you guys, you
hook up, you had a good time. Everything is fine
up until this moment. And as soon as it's over,
he's like, oh, there's your bra okay, and then you know,
Sam's on his way in the Honda Civic license plate
one two three four. He'll be downstairs Civic. Yeah, well
(05:02):
he went for the Uber comfort. What a guy, right, you're.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Saying, Yeah, it's just like it made it feel so cheap,
like like it was so fast. It was like a flip.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Switch, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Like it was just like I got the hitt and
I laughed, But it just made me feel like.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
The way, uh, because because you were getting there. I
like my bed.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Look, I like my bed to myself, and I was
tired and that makes me a tool.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
No, but like, why did you invite me over if
there was like a time limit on the evening, Like
it was just rude.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Look, we were having a good time. I mean we
were vibing.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
Obviously we connected, you know. I mean you know where
I was tired. I just wanted to go to sleep.
I mean, I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
There's a difference between who might have talk, but there's
a difference between like wanting to sleep, you know, or
having an early morning or whatever. I mean, you gotta
be you gotta be a little more casual about it.
Like you can't okay, but I mean you can get
like some you're still going, like you know, the heart's
still pumping. It's like Uber will be here in two minutes.
You got to be a little bit more laid back
(06:14):
about it.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
I'm a single guy. I'm used to sleeping by myself.
I used to have some space and uh, I mean,
I'll be honest. I was just like I was just
right pass out.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Man. It was a struggle just to call that Uber.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
But I paid for your Uber. Okay.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
You need to tell you that beforehand, though, Like if
you're if you want someone to come over and you
want to do that, like I feel like that's okay,
if you want that, but you definitely need to make
the other person aware of that prior to the you.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Know, I don't know. I looked I wanted you to
come over. I think we had a fun time. If
I told you I was tired, you might have not
come over. You know what I mean, Like I'm just saying.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Right, you acted like it was a business transaction like
it was. It was really crappy.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's like I thought I was being a gentleman.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I thought I was. I thought I was doing like
the right thing, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Mean minutes like like you call your own no.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
But I didn't say, like, okay, why don't you call
your own uber?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I was I thought I was. It was like being
a you know, you politely kicked.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I got you look, I get it.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
The clothes were everywhere.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I got straightened them up, I gathered you know, I mean,
I got them all together for her. You know, I
was decided to be I was trying to be a
nice and accommodate.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Icy so as opposed to being like, two seconds after
it's over, hey call your own uber. You just went
ahead and did it for I'll be honest. That is
casting over right there. That I mean, what the bar.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Okay you put it that way. Yeah, but I felt
like I was doing the right thing at the time.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Keep them.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I was super tired too. I was exhausted, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I mean I would say that. You can say that,
be like, hey, look I'm really tired. I gotta go
to bed. You know I got to up early tomorrow.
I mean, people can take a hint. But like I again,
we just did this very personal thing. I wouldn't necessarily
do this right. I mean, just say, hey, you know
you want some water? Like I don't know, I'm just saying, like, well,
(08:16):
what would you prefer? You don't want me to offer
you hydration?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I don't want you to kick me out at all,
But I'm not I'm not kicking anybody out. I'm just saying, like,
there's a way to do this where.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I mean, sure, maybe, but you can't honestly tell me
that every time you've hooked up with some other people
in the room, that every time you hooked up with
someone you wanted them to stay the night. I mean,
I don't think this is I think this guy was rude,
but I don't think this is a signature male move.
Only I've definitely been at women's houses before where they
(08:51):
were like, oh oh doing the yawning thing.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh man, oh I'm so tired.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And it's like, okay, I wasn't invited to stay, so
I'm not going to stay. That happens on the other
end too, of course.
Speaker 8 (09:02):
It does, but I still think it's rude from both parties.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Yeah, it was like if you had just said all
of that, I would have understood. But it was so
like the second it was over, I was like, okay, bye,
see yourself out.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Everybody knows. It's definitely it does.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I can see why it's so very transactional. I can
I love, I understand, and Page, I totally get it.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah. I didn't intend it to come across that way.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Like I said, I thought I was doing the right
thing by gathering up your clothes for you.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I thought it.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Was you know, I mean I was.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I was not in my in.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
The right mindset. But I will say I had a
great time. I thought you did too, And you know,
if you maybe, if you'd wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Out with me again, I would love to. I mean,
that was okay, that was awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
So Page, look, he I don't know if he really
is getting it. But he is.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Let's say that he's accepted that what he did was rude.
You obviously liked him up until that point. If he
promises you to be a little more respectful moving forward, Uh,
and you know, maybe wait a little while before he
calls the uber. Would you consider going out with him again?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Absolutely not, because I have self respect and I'm not
putting myself in that situation again.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's something to think about, it's something something you think about. Yeah,
I'm gonna I'm just gonna noodle this one for a
while and you know maybe Okay, look it's not gonna
work out. Jonah, she's not interested. Uh, thank you for
your time. Good luck to you and Jonah as well.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Okay, time
This is the Fread Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Zame is taking over Las Vegas this January for his
seven night residence he Ath Doobe Live at Park MGM,
and we've got a trip for two to the January
twenty fifth show to night Hotel State Park MGM January
twenty fourth through the twenty sixth and round trip airfare.
Text Remember to three seven three three seven now for
a chance to win. A confirmation text will be said.
(00:22):
Standard message of data rates may apply. All thanks to
Live Nation. Ever been left waiting by the phone?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's the Fread Show. Hey, Jonah, good morning, welcome to
the program. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm good, I'm good, Yeah, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm doing all right. Trying to help you out here
though it's waiting by the phone. So what's going on
with this woman? Page? Like, I need to know how
you met, about any dates you've been on, and then
where things are now, and then how we can help.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Obviously we met on the apps. You know most people
I guess meeting that way. But you know we had
a great first date. We went out after talking on
the after a little while and went out and and
you know we went back to my place and had
an even better time. Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You know, Oh, okay, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Not you know, she's uh, and then she just straight
ghosted me afterwards, like and what I don't understand is like,
you know, we had a good time, we had a
great time. If she was down to go back to
my place and hook up, you know, why why the ghosting?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You know why she goes to me now I'd like
to see her again, I would.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Say most of the time. I've been doing this for
a long We've all been doing these calls for a
long time, so I mean, I would normally say when
someone on a first date wants to go home with
you that that's a good thing. So everything was good
until that point, I guess. But now you're not able
to get a hold of this woman. You've called her,
you've texted her, you've tried, and she's not responding to
(01:52):
you at all.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Not at all, like straight ghosted, which you know, it's
not like anything bad happens. We had a good time,
you know, we fun. Yeah, nothing weird, nothing, you know,
it was just I don't know, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
All right.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, look, Jonah, we'll be the judge of that in
just a second. Okay, we're gonna find out what's going on.
We're gonna call Page, see if we can get her
on the phone, ask some questions. You'll be on the
phone at the same time, and you welcome to jump
in at some point. And the hope, as always is
that we can straighten this out, figure out what's going on,
set you guys up on another date, and pay for it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
All right, I would love that, Thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Hey Jonah? Yeah, all right, let's call it Page. You
guys met on one of the dating apps. You went
on a date. You felt like it was a successful date,
so much so that she wound up going back to
your place after the dinner and the drinks or whatever
you guys did. But you have not heard from this
woman since then, and it's bugging you because obviously you
liked whatever happened and liked her and wanted to see
(02:48):
her again, and now you can't.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
You can't find her absolutely, ye, Have you guys can
help me track her down?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
That'd be great.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
We're gonna find out right now. Good luck? Man?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Hi is this Page?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I hate Page. Good morning.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
My name is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred Show,
the Morning radio show, and I have to tell you
that we are on the radio right now, and I
would need your permission to continue with the calls and
cool if we chat for just a second. Uh, Okay,
I know, I know it's kind of strange and I'm
sorry to sort of barge in on your life like this,
but you're welcome to hang up in any time. We're
calling on behalf of a guy who reached out to
(03:29):
us for help. His name is Jonah. Do you remember
going on a date with Jonah? Yes? I do, all right, Well,
he described to us what he thought was a really
good date. He liked you a lot. He did say
that you guys wandered back at his place. He didn't
get into detail about that, but he says he hasn't
heard from you since then, So what's going on?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Why are you ghosting Jonah? It looks like, oh my.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
God, this is so embarrassing.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Okay, yes we went on a date, but god, I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Wouldn't normally kiss and tell like this is mortifying, But
it's kind of like why.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I guess it's a safe place.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
This is a safe place page and he asked us
to do this, So you're welcome to say whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Okay. So after we hooked.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Up, Jonah was so rude, Like the second we finished,
he was up and collecting my things so that I
could get dressed, and he was like, what's your address?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I'll call you an uber?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Oh what a gentleman? Was it? Fred? Stop it right now?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I'm it takes me a few minutes to get everything together,
so just come on. So okay, so you guys, you
hook up, you had a good time. Everything is fine
up until this moment. And as soon as it's over,
he's like, oh, there's your bra okay, and then you know,
Sam's on his way in the Honda Civic license plate
one two three four. He'll be downstairs Civic. Yeah, well
(05:02):
he went for the Uber comfort. What a guy, right, you're.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Saying, Yeah, it's just like it made it feel so cheap,
like like it was so fast. It was like a flip.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Switch, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Like it was just like I got the hitt and
I laughed, But it just made me feel like.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
The way, uh, because because you were getting there. I
like my bed.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Look, I like my bed to myself, and I was
tired and that makes me a tool.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
No, but like, why did you invite me over if
there was like a time limit on the evening, Like
it was just rude.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Look, we were having a good time. I mean we
were vibing.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
Obviously we connected, you know. I mean you know where
I was tired. I just wanted to go to sleep.
I mean, I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
There's a difference between who might have talk, but there's
a difference between like wanting to sleep, you know, or
having an early morning or whatever. I mean, you gotta
be you gotta be a little more casual about it.
Like you can't okay, but I mean you can get
like some you're still going, like you know, the heart's
still pumping. It's like Uber will be here in two minutes.
You got to be a little bit more laid back
(06:14):
about it.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
I'm a single guy. I'm used to sleeping by myself.
I used to have some space and uh, I mean,
I'll be honest. I was just like I was just
right pass out.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Man. It was a struggle just to call that Uber.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
But I paid for your Uber. Okay.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
You need to tell you that beforehand, though, Like if
you're if you want someone to come over and you
want to do that, like I feel like that's okay,
if you want that, but you definitely need to make
the other person aware of that prior to the you.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Know, I don't know. I looked I wanted you to
come over. I think we had a fun time. If
I told you I was tired, you might have not
come over. You know what I mean, Like I'm just saying.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Right, you acted like it was a business transaction like
it was. It was really crappy.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's like I thought I was being a gentleman.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I thought I was. I thought I was doing like
the right thing, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Mean minutes like like you call your own no.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
But I didn't say, like, okay, why don't you call
your own uber?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I was I thought I was. It was like being
a you know, you politely kicked.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I got you look, I get it.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
The clothes were everywhere.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I got straightened them up, I gathered you know, I mean,
I got them all together for her. You know, I
was decided to be I was trying to be a
nice and accommodate.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Icy so as opposed to being like, two seconds after
it's over, hey call your own uber. You just went
ahead and did it for I'll be honest. That is
casting over right there. That I mean, what the bar.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Okay you put it that way. Yeah, but I felt
like I was doing the right thing at the time.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Keep them.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I was super tired too. I was exhausted, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I mean I would say that. You can say that,
be like, hey, look I'm really tired. I gotta go
to bed. You know I got to up early tomorrow.
I mean, people can take a hint. But like I again,
we just did this very personal thing. I wouldn't necessarily
do this right. I mean, just say, hey, you know
you want some water? Like I don't know, I'm just saying, like, well,
(08:16):
what would you prefer? You don't want me to offer
you hydration?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I don't want you to kick me out at all,
But I'm not I'm not kicking anybody out. I'm just saying, like,
there's a way to do this where.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I mean, sure, maybe, but you can't honestly tell me
that every time you've hooked up with some other people
in the room, that every time you hooked up with
someone you wanted them to stay the night. I mean,
I don't think this is I think this guy was rude,
but I don't think this is a signature male move.
Only I've definitely been at women's houses before where they
(08:51):
were like, oh oh doing the yawning thing.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh man, oh I'm so tired.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And it's like, okay, I wasn't invited to stay, so
I'm not going to stay. That happens on the other
end too, of course.
Speaker 8 (09:02):
It does, but I still think it's rude from both parties.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Yeah, it was like if you had just said all
of that, I would have understood. But it was so
like the second it was over, I was like, okay, bye,
see yourself out.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Everybody knows. It's definitely it does.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I can see why it's so very transactional. I can
I love, I understand, and Page, I totally get it.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah. I didn't intend it to come across that way.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Like I said, I thought I was doing the right
thing by gathering up your clothes for you.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I thought it.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Was you know, I mean I was.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I was not in my in.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
The right mindset. But I will say I had a
great time. I thought you did too, And you know,
if you maybe, if you'd wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Out with me again, I would love to. I mean,
that was okay, that was awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
So Page, look, he I don't know if he really
is getting it. But he is.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Let's say that he's accepted that what he did was rude.
You obviously liked him up until that point. If he
promises you to be a little more respectful moving forward, Uh,
and you know, maybe wait a little while before he
calls the uber. Would you consider going out with him again?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Absolutely not, because I have self respect and I'm not
putting myself in that situation again.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's something to think about, it's something something you think about. Yeah,
I'm gonna I'm just gonna noodle this one for a
while and you know maybe Okay, look it's not gonna
work out. Jonah, she's not interested. Uh, thank you for
your time. Good luck to you and Jonah as well.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Okay, time
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Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Are You A Charlotte?
In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.
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If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.