September 12, 2025 • 9 mins
Chris is confused why his date Chelsea won't call him back after having a fun night out together... Find out why he got ghosted!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You've never been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Shell. Hey Chris, good morning, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm doing okay, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Doing? All right?
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
What's going on with this woman Chelsea? We got to
kind of know everything. It's waiting by the phone, trying
to figure out maybe if you have been ghosted. So
tell us about any days that you've been on with Chelsea.
Kind of how you met and where things are now,
the whole backstory.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Okay, Well, we.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Met on a dating app, pretty much like everybody does nowadays.
We hung out twice. Now, I mean, I thought we
had a pretty good time. We did talk about our
past relationships, which I know is not.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
A good thing to do.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
But I am a little worried maybe I said too
much and that might be why she's not calling me back.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I see. Okay, little self awareness on this one. You know,
this dude did some real reflection. It wasn't like I
didn't do anything. And then it turns out that he,
you know, I don't know, tried to put her feet
in his mouth or something I don't know, bottered things
to make her smell better.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
He never met her before, like I.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Mean, so you're saying that maybe maybe some of the
conversation was maybe some of the topics were the things
that you're not supposed to talk about on dates. But
other than that, you felt like everything went really well.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, no feet in the mouth or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Good.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Now, we like to try and keep them out unless,
you know, unless somebody wants that, and no judgment there.
But that didn't happen here. So let's play a song.
Come back, Hey, Chris, Yes, all right, welcome back. Let's
call Chelsea. You guys, you made on a dating app
a lot of that's pretty much everybody meets, and you
went on two dates. You felt like everything went really well.
But you've reached out since the second date and you
(01:38):
haven't heard back from her in any form, and you
want to know why you feel like you're being ghosted.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You have no idea why. Yeah, I mean, like I said,
it might.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Be because I brought up some past relationships stuff, but otherwise, yeah,
I really don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I mean, but that does people do talk about that,
of all the things. So let's call Chelsea now and
and try and figure this out.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Good luck, Thanks man. Hello, Hi, this Chelsea Chelsea. Good morning.
My name is Fred.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm calling from the Fred Show, the Morning radio show,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now and I would need your permission
to continue with the call.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Can which have for just a second? Would you mind?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Oh? Yeah, that's that's fine.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Thank you very much. We appreciate that we're calling on behalf.
I mean, she seemed like optimistic, but we'll see. We're
calling on behalf of a guy named Chris. I guess
you recently went a couple of days with Chris.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Do you remember him? Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I do? Okay, Well, he called us and he had
nice things to say about you and said that he
enjoyed the dates that you went on, and apparently he's
reached out for another one and you're not responding to
him at all, so he's trying to figure out, you know,
why you might be ghosting him.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, Well, yeah, we.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Met on a dating app and like everyone does, and
after talking for a little bit, he got my number
and asked me out, and more than a few times
he brought up how important trust is and how he's
had women lie to him in the past, and it
seems pretty clear to me that he had been hurt
(03:11):
and he clearly hasn't worked through it or like let
it go. I didn't love like all the X talk
or him you know, seemingly having like a chip on
his shoulder about women. But he did seem a little
nervous and tipsy. So I just chalked it up to
like first date jitters, and I wanted to give him
(03:33):
a second chance.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
So when he picks me up for our second date,
he told me he had a surprise for me, and
the surprise ended up being a lie detector test. Stop organized,
stop it.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I wish he took examiner on the second date, like
a fun yeah, I mean like an escape rule would
be one thing, But like he took you.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You know, I don't know a nice when they hook
you up? What? Wow, I don't even know where you
find that? Is there a story? Is there a group
for that?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Like?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
What did he take you to the FBI? Like?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Okay, so he took you to get a legitimate.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, And he for his reasoning was he said that
way we could start things off with a clean slate
on the right foot. And he told me he had
some questions and they would be like have you ever
cheated on someone. Have you ever lied to a partner? Wow?
I know it's past and right, well, I'm told him
(04:46):
he wasn't going to take the test because it's stupid,
and I.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Don't blame you. I wouldn't hey, I would have known
that I would have crazy. And how did that go over?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
He slept out and said like, see, I knew this
was too good to be true. I never like I
lecked and never like oh, he just was like freaking out.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I believe this guy had a light. He's hector test
line up. I feel like he wanted to see if
you do it. And then when he said that you
you wouldn't any you know, because I don't even know
who to call. You call the Captain Stee. I guess
Kevin Steve, our guy, you know, and maybe he's not
somebody who does this but Greco Yeah yeah, oh yeah,
we'll call that guy left on this day of the investigation.
(05:32):
Let me bring Chris in, Chelsea. I'm starting to rupt you,
but he's on the phone. I failed to mention that
I'm very forgetful. But Chris, what are we doing? You
said you talked about past relationships. Fine, a lie detector test?
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Well, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I think she's kind of exaggerating the situation a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It was more like a playful kind of day. It
was just to see, you know, hey, let's let's be honest.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Because when she brought up her exes, I felt like
she wasn't being one hundred percent honest.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So I really didn't think it was that big of
a deal. So let's just you would want to know
some stuff too.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Let's swing by the station and we'll get to some
electrodes and let's let's see. Let's see if you're really
telling the truth. Dude, you're not entitled to that information. Like,
it's very clear that you don't trust people. I'm sorry
for whatever the you know the catalyst for that is.
But for whatever reason you don't trust people, I'm sorry.
But like, you don't just get to go hook everybody
up to a light detector test and even then I'm
(06:25):
not even sure that's how that works.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Well, no person would mind taking a light detector.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Taking detector. I don't know you. I didn't come murder.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Chris when I because when I got home, you texted
me that you forgave me and I owe you a drink.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That's the point where things got strange for you. I see, okay,
all right, yeah, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Unprompted. I forgive you like that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
By the way, this girl was right. But this reminds
you of the first date that I went on. I've
told you guys about it before. This is a long
time ago. But I went on a first day. I
had the next day off, and the date was kind
of flat, and so I'm like, I'm going home and
she was like, what do you want to Let's go
another place. I'm like, now, I'm gonna go home. Why
didn't I left? And I went to hang out with
my buddies because I was off the next day. And
she facetimed me like eight times in a row because
she wanted me to answer, to prove that I.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And then she was right. I was absolutely out of
the bus. But I can do that.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I mean, I did lie. I did lie to her,
but you're not entitled to know that. Like, we went
on a day, we had two drinks, it was a
nice time, and then I left and went somewhere else.
I have every right to do that, but she called
over and over again. I had to be FaceTime and
then when I wouldn't pick up, it's like you liar
and I was. But that's it's not the point. I
can lie to someone and I don't. I don't know
(07:50):
after two dates, how you believe that you're entitled to
that level of access to someone's psyche, Like you gotta
trust issues, bro, you're gonna have. I mean, that's attractive
in itself.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's not helping, Chris fred I don't know. I think
I'm asking the wrong person here. It sounds like you're
a liar.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
To be honest with you, I mean, you're not going
to I have absolutely lied, but I'm honest about it.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But I'm not asking people. You're insane, Chris.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'm we're not stopping by the bureau you hooked up
to get your deepest darket secrets. I'm not entitled to
that information the same way that girl's not entitled to
know where I am after a date.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So I'll take lie detectors on the show. I'm busy.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So actually, you know what I would too, because I
don't think there's anything that I would have to lie about, Like,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Are you going to the club or are you not?
I went to the club I did.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
All right, Look, Chelsea, I'll ask the question, no lie detector,
but you want to give this guy another chance? I
know the answer, but if you you know whatever, surprise me.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Absolutely not. Okay, all right, Well we're all liars, Chris
so sorry.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, apparently you guys are a bunch of liars and
don't care about honesty.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That's fine. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
If i'm you, find another way to regain trust rather
than strapping everybody in.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's called therapy. No, keep doing this, don't work. That
man a group on. It's expensive, I'm sure
You've never been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Shell. Hey Chris, good morning, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm doing okay, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Doing? All right?
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
What's going on with this woman Chelsea? We got to
kind of know everything. It's waiting by the phone, trying
to figure out maybe if you have been ghosted. So
tell us about any days that you've been on with Chelsea.
Kind of how you met and where things are now,
the whole backstory.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Okay, Well, we.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Met on a dating app, pretty much like everybody does nowadays.
We hung out twice. Now, I mean, I thought we
had a pretty good time. We did talk about our
past relationships, which I know is not.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
A good thing to do.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
But I am a little worried maybe I said too
much and that might be why she's not calling me back.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I see. Okay, little self awareness on this one. You know,
this dude did some real reflection. It wasn't like I
didn't do anything. And then it turns out that he,
you know, I don't know, tried to put her feet
in his mouth or something I don't know, bottered things
to make her smell better.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
He never met her before, like I.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Mean, so you're saying that maybe maybe some of the
conversation was maybe some of the topics were the things
that you're not supposed to talk about on dates. But
other than that, you felt like everything went really well.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, no feet in the mouth or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Good.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Now, we like to try and keep them out unless,
you know, unless somebody wants that, and no judgment there.
But that didn't happen here. So let's play a song.
Come back, Hey, Chris, Yes, all right, welcome back. Let's
call Chelsea. You guys, you made on a dating app
a lot of that's pretty much everybody meets, and you
went on two dates. You felt like everything went really well.
But you've reached out since the second date and you
(01:38):
haven't heard back from her in any form, and you
want to know why you feel like you're being ghosted.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You have no idea why. Yeah, I mean, like I said,
it might.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Be because I brought up some past relationships stuff, but otherwise, yeah,
I really don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I mean, but that does people do talk about that,
of all the things. So let's call Chelsea now and
and try and figure this out.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Good luck, Thanks man. Hello, Hi, this Chelsea Chelsea. Good morning.
My name is Fred.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm calling from the Fred Show, the Morning radio show,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now and I would need your permission
to continue with the call.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Can which have for just a second? Would you mind?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Oh? Yeah, that's that's fine.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Thank you very much. We appreciate that we're calling on behalf.
I mean, she seemed like optimistic, but we'll see. We're
calling on behalf of a guy named Chris. I guess
you recently went a couple of days with Chris.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Do you remember him? Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I do? Okay, Well, he called us and he had
nice things to say about you and said that he
enjoyed the dates that you went on, and apparently he's
reached out for another one and you're not responding to
him at all, so he's trying to figure out, you know,
why you might be ghosting him.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, Well, yeah, we.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Met on a dating app and like everyone does, and
after talking for a little bit, he got my number
and asked me out, and more than a few times
he brought up how important trust is and how he's
had women lie to him in the past, and it
seems pretty clear to me that he had been hurt
(03:11):
and he clearly hasn't worked through it or like let
it go. I didn't love like all the X talk
or him you know, seemingly having like a chip on
his shoulder about women. But he did seem a little
nervous and tipsy. So I just chalked it up to
like first date jitters, and I wanted to give him
(03:33):
a second chance.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
So when he picks me up for our second date,
he told me he had a surprise for me, and
the surprise ended up being a lie detector test. Stop organized,
stop it.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I wish he took examiner on the second date, like
a fun yeah, I mean like an escape rule would
be one thing, But like he took you.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You know, I don't know a nice when they hook
you up? What? Wow, I don't even know where you
find that? Is there a story? Is there a group
for that?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Like?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
What did he take you to the FBI? Like?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Okay, so he took you to get a legitimate.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, And he for his reasoning was he said that
way we could start things off with a clean slate
on the right foot. And he told me he had
some questions and they would be like have you ever
cheated on someone. Have you ever lied to a partner? Wow?
I know it's past and right, well, I'm told him
(04:46):
he wasn't going to take the test because it's stupid,
and I.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Don't blame you. I wouldn't hey, I would have known
that I would have crazy. And how did that go over?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
He slept out and said like, see, I knew this
was too good to be true. I never like I
lecked and never like oh, he just was like freaking out.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I believe this guy had a light. He's hector test
line up. I feel like he wanted to see if
you do it. And then when he said that you
you wouldn't any you know, because I don't even know
who to call. You call the Captain Stee. I guess
Kevin Steve, our guy, you know, and maybe he's not
somebody who does this but Greco Yeah yeah, oh yeah,
we'll call that guy left on this day of the investigation.
(05:32):
Let me bring Chris in, Chelsea. I'm starting to rupt you,
but he's on the phone. I failed to mention that
I'm very forgetful. But Chris, what are we doing? You
said you talked about past relationships. Fine, a lie detector test?
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Well, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I think she's kind of exaggerating the situation a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It was more like a playful kind of day. It
was just to see, you know, hey, let's let's be honest.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Because when she brought up her exes, I felt like
she wasn't being one hundred percent honest.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So I really didn't think it was that big of
a deal. So let's just you would want to know
some stuff too.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Let's swing by the station and we'll get to some
electrodes and let's let's see. Let's see if you're really
telling the truth. Dude, you're not entitled to that information. Like,
it's very clear that you don't trust people. I'm sorry
for whatever the you know the catalyst for that is.
But for whatever reason you don't trust people, I'm sorry.
But like, you don't just get to go hook everybody
up to a light detector test and even then I'm
(06:25):
not even sure that's how that works.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Well, no person would mind taking a light detector.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Taking detector. I don't know you. I didn't come murder.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Chris when I because when I got home, you texted
me that you forgave me and I owe you a drink.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That's the point where things got strange for you. I see, okay,
all right, yeah, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Unprompted. I forgive you like that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
By the way, this girl was right. But this reminds
you of the first date that I went on. I've
told you guys about it before. This is a long
time ago. But I went on a first day. I
had the next day off, and the date was kind
of flat, and so I'm like, I'm going home and
she was like, what do you want to Let's go
another place. I'm like, now, I'm gonna go home. Why
didn't I left? And I went to hang out with
my buddies because I was off the next day. And
she facetimed me like eight times in a row because
she wanted me to answer, to prove that I.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And then she was right. I was absolutely out of
the bus. But I can do that.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I mean, I did lie. I did lie to her,
but you're not entitled to know that. Like, we went
on a day, we had two drinks, it was a
nice time, and then I left and went somewhere else.
I have every right to do that, but she called
over and over again. I had to be FaceTime and
then when I wouldn't pick up, it's like you liar
and I was. But that's it's not the point. I
can lie to someone and I don't. I don't know
(07:50):
after two dates, how you believe that you're entitled to
that level of access to someone's psyche, Like you gotta
trust issues, bro, you're gonna have. I mean, that's attractive
in itself.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's not helping, Chris fred I don't know. I think
I'm asking the wrong person here. It sounds like you're
a liar.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
To be honest with you, I mean, you're not going
to I have absolutely lied, but I'm honest about it.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But I'm not asking people. You're insane, Chris.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'm we're not stopping by the bureau you hooked up
to get your deepest darket secrets. I'm not entitled to
that information the same way that girl's not entitled to
know where I am after a date.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So I'll take lie detectors on the show. I'm busy.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So actually, you know what I would too, because I
don't think there's anything that I would have to lie about, Like,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Are you going to the club or are you not?
I went to the club I did.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
All right, Look, Chelsea, I'll ask the question, no lie detector,
but you want to give this guy another chance? I
know the answer, but if you you know whatever, surprise me.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Absolutely not. Okay, all right, Well we're all liars, Chris
so sorry.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, apparently you guys are a bunch of liars and
don't care about honesty.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That's fine. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
If i'm you, find another way to regain trust rather
than strapping everybody in.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's called therapy. No, keep doing this, don't work. That
man a group on. It's expensive, I'm sure
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