October 29, 2025 • 12 mins
Grace is confused why Xavier won't call her back after a fun first day... Find out why she got ghosted!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Fread Show. Dan is taking over Las
Vegas this January for his seven night residenty at Doobe
Live at Park MGM. And we've got a trip for
two to the January twenty fifth show to night Hotel
State at Park MGM January twenty fourth through the twenty
sixth and round trip airfare. Text direction to three seven
three three seven now for a chance to win. A
(00:20):
confirmation text will be said. Standard message of data rates
may apply. All thanks to Live Nation. He's ever been
left waiting by the phone. It's the Fread Show. Hey Grace,
good morning, Welcome to the program. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Good morning? I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What's going on with this guy? Xavier? I got to
know everything? How did you meet? Tell us about any
dates you've been on, and then where things are now?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Okay. We first met at a bar a couple of
weeks ago, and I have to give him palps because
he walked right up to me and we started chatting
and he was very charming. He took care of my
drinks all night. He was very respectful, which unfortunate, is rare,
and when the bar was closing, he said to me,
(01:05):
as much as I'd love to keep hanging out. I
want to take you on a proper date. And then
he asked you for my number.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I know, I mean, well, you talk about a masterclass
in how to do this. Man, he walked up to
you in the wild, he handle the whole night, didn't
creep you out. And then and then it was hey,
you know we could do this, but no, oh no,
I'm going to be a gentleman and I'm going to
take you on a proper date. I mean I would
say that, you know, this is how you do it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh yeah, I was absolutely floored.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Okay, so what's the problem and yeah, So well, the.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Next morning he texted me saying it was great to
meet me, and he asked me to send him some
nights that I was free for dinner, and he said
he was going to take care of the rest. We
went on another date, or we went on the first
date really, and I was just thinking, this is true,
good to be true, and lo and behold it is
because I have not heard from him, and I just
(01:56):
want your help. I'm really questioning everything that went down.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Okay, so you go from you know, him doing everything
right in the bar and you're super into it and
he's smooth and you like it, and then you you
you wind up going on a date, and then that's
even an upgrade from there. Except that's where it stops,
like all of a sudden, the dude's ghosting you, is
he's you know, you can't find him. He's not I
assume you've reached out, he's not responding to you.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, I have.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I've reached out a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So how do we go from doing everything right to
now the guy's m I A. That's where we come in.
We're gonna call this guy Xavier Xavier, and we're gonna
see if we can figure out what's going on. You know.
The hope is always, grace, is that we can straighten
this out. Hey Grace, Yeah, welcome back. Let's call this
guy Xavier. You you met in the wild and I
that's sort of that's a really sort of precarious thing
(02:43):
as a guy, because you know, sometimes it's it's women
will tell you that all I want to got to
come up to me in a wild and then the
same people will be like, but the guy came up
to me in a while, and it was creepy when
he starts speaking to me like from his mouth, and
it was like he's trying to interact with me, and
it was weird. So I guess it depends on who
the guy is and who the girl is and what
the moment is. But in this case, everything worked perfectly.
(03:06):
You wind up going on a date, except you haven't
heard from this guy since the date. You want to
know why? Let's call him now? Good luck, Grace. Hi'
Is this Xavier, x Xavier or just Xavier? How do
(03:26):
you pronounce your name properly? I want to get it right,
But my name is Fred. By the way, I'm not
like a weird telemarket I'm weird, but not a telemarketer.
I'm actually calling from the Fred Show, the morning radio show.
How do you say your name properly?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay? Exaving so perfect. We're calling on behalf of a Well.
First of all, I have to tell you that I'm
all line of line again. I got my spiel. No,
I got my spiel. But if I don't do my
spiel in the right order, then I get totally thrown off.
We are on the radio. Can I have permission to
continue with this call? Would you mind? You can hang
up anytime. I know this whole thing is very strange,
but thank you for not hanging up. We're calling on
(04:03):
behalf of a woman named Grace. I guess you approached
her in a bar and went on a date recently.
Do you remember that? Okay? What happened? Because she reached
out to us and she was really impressed by you,
the way that you approached her and the evening that
you guys spent together in the bar, and then I
guess she took her on a date and she thought
(04:23):
that was even better. But she hasn't heard from you
since any of that, and she wants to know why.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Sorry, so strange, you sure? Okay?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, I.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Don't know how much.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
You all know. That's it. What we told you is
what we know. Just that she was impressed by you
in a couple of dates, and it's confused as to
why you haven't responded to her or reached out for
another one. That's what we know.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, so we met at the bar and you got
her number after out for dinner. Yeah, I was into
her two, I guess, but a major red flag kind
of presented itself.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
While we were about to eat and our food came
and she grabs her phone to take a picture it's like,
you know, I don't care that, you know, standard twenty
twenty five. I get it. But he stood up to
get the whole angle of the table, and you know,
(05:37):
I realized my hand was in the picture, so I
moved it so she didn't have that in there. Then
she grabbed my hand and puts it back and she
tells me to leave it there. So I'm like, oh,
she she wanted my hand, and oh.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Okay, all right this yeah, I know I know this one.
I know this one. Yeah, I've been I've been privy
to this one before hand, right, I've been the hand
or or I've I've had someone else's hand left it
in because it's like, let's get people talking a little
bit here, you know what I'm saying. Let's let's have people,
Let's keep people on their toes, you know what I mean,
(06:16):
make sure people are are on their game. So so
you believe that you were upon for something.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Well, so I asked her what was like what she
was doing, and she just kept smiling and she says, oh,
don't worry about it. So like to me, it was
very clear that she was, you know, like trying to
make someone jealous. And I'm not down for that.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So yeah, so that's it. So that's that I forgot
to mention that Grace is here. I'm very forgetful. I
always forget this part of it. Grace, is he right?
I mean, is that? I guess you admitted to it,
But like, who are we trying to make jealous? And
why would we necessarily announce that? I mean, there are
sneaky ways to do this, so you don't have to
tell the person that there's another guy whose opinion you
(07:01):
care about, or girl or whatever you're into.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Okay, okay, okay, I think everybody needs to take it
down a notch. Yes, he is right, but it wasn't
a big deal in the moment. I mean, I just
I I he had his hand in the photo, and
I said, I said, oh no, it's okay, keep it in,
you know, kind of wink wink, And then I didn't
even realize that set him up. It was a very
(07:25):
inconsequential moment. I just like to be mysterious, and you know,
if I have a great date and I happen to
make someone jealous, then uh, lock me up.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well yeah, but see, Grace's if I'm out with you
and you're obsessed with using me to make someone else jealous.
That implies to me that you still care about this
other person's opinion. And then it's like, well what am
I doing here? And what if it works? And the
person who you're admitting that you're trying to make jealous
and reaches out and it works, and then okay, And
then all of a sudden you're like, I never mind,
(07:54):
don't need you anymore because I was trying to get
someone else's attention and it worked.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I think you might have anxiety or.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Some Well, first of all, I may, and second of all,
I don't think that's how my brain works. I think
that's exactly what you were trying to do.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's quite a jump with a very small moment. And
everybody has someone from their past that they that they
want to make a little jealous. I mean, I don't
think that makes me such a bad person.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
No one said you were a bad person, Grace. But
so you're saying you wanted to make someone jealous, but
you didn't, but you weren't trying to get their attention.
It wouldn't matter if they reached out. You simply wanted
someone else to see that you've moved on. It's that simple.
It had nothing to do with hoping that they would
see it in DM you or call you or anything,
because that's I don't think that's crazy for me to think.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Not okay, not in the slightest. It was a passing thought.
I thought, Okay, the hand is in the photo. You
know who who cares, Let's let's see what happened.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And they say, if you're not buying this, You're like no,
I mean she she obviously wanted someone to see it.
She admitted to that, who is this person? And why
are you using me? Because here you were trying to
be a good dude and you were doing everything right.
And it's like, at any moment, I guess if so
and so gets his act together and calls, well, then
I'm out. I don't I don't think that's a leap. Guys, like,
(09:08):
I don't think that's a crazy thing to think.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Not at all. Yeah, I mean to me, hold on
to Xavier, you go first. I just think that everything
that she just said, I mean, like, I don't have
anybody in my path that I'm trying to make jealous.
I have moved on from everything. Just to me, that
means grace isn't ready for a relationship, so what to me,
(09:34):
what she's doing and saying is not something normal.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I don't like that because you're just jumping to jealousy
right away. It's also toxic. It can be, But what
if you just want to get the town talking, like, oh,
who is you know she with?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Who is that is that? Her ex is a new guy?
Like I want to just know the gossip.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Behind Yeah, why does it have to be like jealous
the jealous ex? I saw someone the other day on
TikTok it was like, if you want to be toxic
and get people's a ten, And then it was a
girl and she was like, take a picture on the couch,
but have a men's hoodie like sort of like in
the corner or something like draped over like sort of
like so and it'd be like, you know, cozy night
(10:12):
in or whatever, but it's like you're implying that it's
a cozy night in with a guy. That would miss
me though, like go right over my head because a
lot of us were guy hoodies, Like I would.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Just go right over my head.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I look for stuff like this, so like if I
if a pretty girl shows up on my for you
and I'll go through the grid and be like, I
see like a dude's hands. Yeah. Yeah. Then I'm like,
well she's got a boyfriend nobody, that's fine. What do
you mean? Oh no, I'm a single due I know
that though you get what I'm saying, you jump into conclusions. Yeah,
but I mean, I think it's a pretty good, pretty
good odds that I might look stupid if I, you know,
(10:42):
slide in the DMS. And I think, but that person
is not doing anything wrong, and Grace, neither are you necessarily.
But I also I can see why he would feel
like he's being used a little.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, I think we all put things on the
internet wondering how people are going to react. And I'm
I didn't mean to to set him off, but if
I did, then maybe I need someone who's a little
bit more secure.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay, I don't know about that. So let me ask
you this then, Grace, And here's a point blank question.
So you you do not have interest in someone else.
You're not hoping someone else sees that and reaches out.
You're one hundred percent focused on Xavier and seeing him again.
And this has nothing to do with another particular person.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That is correct. However, you know, I'm a very honest person.
I like to make jokes. I have people from my past,
and if that is going to upset the person I'm dating,
then it's probably not a good sit.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I don't know. This seems a little weird, but said
your call, do you want to go out with her again?
We'll pay for it. I mean, she didn't do anything wrong.
But I also see where you're coming from. So what
do you think?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, I think I think I'm gonna pass.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I'm good, Okay, all right, fair enough, So Grace, I'm
sorry it's not going to work out. Maybe I don't know.
Maybe down the road, once you guys have established something,
that might be something where you could say that he
might laugh. But like, you don't know each other, so
he doesn't know what your intentions are. He doesn't know
that there's not someone else that you're still reeling over
or trying to get over whatever. He doesn't know that
(12:10):
because he doesn't know you.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yep, that's fair. I mean, I guess I respect it.
Just don't watch my Instagram stories.
This is the Fread Show. Dan is taking over Las
Vegas this January for his seven night residenty at Doobe
Live at Park MGM. And we've got a trip for
two to the January twenty fifth show to night Hotel
State at Park MGM January twenty fourth through the twenty
sixth and round trip airfare. Text direction to three seven
three three seven now for a chance to win. A
(00:20):
confirmation text will be said. Standard message of data rates
may apply. All thanks to Live Nation. He's ever been
left waiting by the phone. It's the Fread Show. Hey Grace,
good morning, Welcome to the program. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Good morning? I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What's going on with this guy? Xavier? I got to
know everything? How did you meet? Tell us about any
dates you've been on, and then where things are now?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Okay. We first met at a bar a couple of
weeks ago, and I have to give him palps because
he walked right up to me and we started chatting
and he was very charming. He took care of my
drinks all night. He was very respectful, which unfortunate, is rare,
and when the bar was closing, he said to me,
(01:05):
as much as I'd love to keep hanging out. I
want to take you on a proper date. And then
he asked you for my number.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I know, I mean, well, you talk about a masterclass
in how to do this. Man, he walked up to
you in the wild, he handle the whole night, didn't
creep you out. And then and then it was hey,
you know we could do this, but no, oh no,
I'm going to be a gentleman and I'm going to
take you on a proper date. I mean I would
say that, you know, this is how you do it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh yeah, I was absolutely floored.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Okay, so what's the problem and yeah, So well, the.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Next morning he texted me saying it was great to
meet me, and he asked me to send him some
nights that I was free for dinner, and he said
he was going to take care of the rest. We
went on another date, or we went on the first
date really, and I was just thinking, this is true,
good to be true, and lo and behold it is
because I have not heard from him, and I just
(01:56):
want your help. I'm really questioning everything that went down.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Okay, so you go from you know, him doing everything
right in the bar and you're super into it and
he's smooth and you like it, and then you you
you wind up going on a date, and then that's
even an upgrade from there. Except that's where it stops,
like all of a sudden, the dude's ghosting you, is
he's you know, you can't find him. He's not I
assume you've reached out, he's not responding to you.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, I have.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I've reached out a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So how do we go from doing everything right to
now the guy's m I A. That's where we come in.
We're gonna call this guy Xavier Xavier, and we're gonna
see if we can figure out what's going on. You know.
The hope is always, grace, is that we can straighten
this out. Hey Grace, Yeah, welcome back. Let's call this
guy Xavier. You you met in the wild and I
that's sort of that's a really sort of precarious thing
(02:43):
as a guy, because you know, sometimes it's it's women
will tell you that all I want to got to
come up to me in a wild and then the
same people will be like, but the guy came up
to me in a while, and it was creepy when
he starts speaking to me like from his mouth, and
it was like he's trying to interact with me, and
it was weird. So I guess it depends on who
the guy is and who the girl is and what
the moment is. But in this case, everything worked perfectly.
(03:06):
You wind up going on a date, except you haven't
heard from this guy since the date. You want to
know why? Let's call him now? Good luck, Grace. Hi'
Is this Xavier, x Xavier or just Xavier? How do
(03:26):
you pronounce your name properly? I want to get it right,
But my name is Fred. By the way, I'm not
like a weird telemarket I'm weird, but not a telemarketer.
I'm actually calling from the Fred Show, the morning radio show.
How do you say your name properly?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay? Exaving so perfect. We're calling on behalf of a Well.
First of all, I have to tell you that I'm
all line of line again. I got my spiel. No,
I got my spiel. But if I don't do my
spiel in the right order, then I get totally thrown off.
We are on the radio. Can I have permission to
continue with this call? Would you mind? You can hang
up anytime. I know this whole thing is very strange,
but thank you for not hanging up. We're calling on
(04:03):
behalf of a woman named Grace. I guess you approached
her in a bar and went on a date recently.
Do you remember that? Okay? What happened? Because she reached
out to us and she was really impressed by you,
the way that you approached her and the evening that
you guys spent together in the bar, and then I
guess she took her on a date and she thought
(04:23):
that was even better. But she hasn't heard from you
since any of that, and she wants to know why.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Sorry, so strange, you sure? Okay?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, I.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Don't know how much.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
You all know. That's it. What we told you is
what we know. Just that she was impressed by you
in a couple of dates, and it's confused as to
why you haven't responded to her or reached out for
another one. That's what we know.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, so we met at the bar and you got
her number after out for dinner. Yeah, I was into
her two, I guess, but a major red flag kind
of presented itself.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
While we were about to eat and our food came
and she grabs her phone to take a picture it's like,
you know, I don't care that, you know, standard twenty
twenty five. I get it. But he stood up to
get the whole angle of the table, and you know,
(05:37):
I realized my hand was in the picture, so I
moved it so she didn't have that in there. Then
she grabbed my hand and puts it back and she
tells me to leave it there. So I'm like, oh,
she she wanted my hand, and oh.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Okay, all right this yeah, I know I know this one.
I know this one. Yeah, I've been I've been privy
to this one before hand, right, I've been the hand
or or I've I've had someone else's hand left it
in because it's like, let's get people talking a little
bit here, you know what I'm saying. Let's let's have people,
Let's keep people on their toes, you know what I mean,
(06:16):
make sure people are are on their game. So so
you believe that you were upon for something.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Well, so I asked her what was like what she
was doing, and she just kept smiling and she says, oh,
don't worry about it. So like to me, it was
very clear that she was, you know, like trying to
make someone jealous. And I'm not down for that.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So yeah, so that's it. So that's that I forgot
to mention that Grace is here. I'm very forgetful. I
always forget this part of it. Grace, is he right?
I mean, is that? I guess you admitted to it,
But like, who are we trying to make jealous? And
why would we necessarily announce that? I mean, there are
sneaky ways to do this, so you don't have to
tell the person that there's another guy whose opinion you
(07:01):
care about, or girl or whatever you're into.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Okay, okay, okay, I think everybody needs to take it
down a notch. Yes, he is right, but it wasn't
a big deal in the moment. I mean, I just
I I he had his hand in the photo, and
I said, I said, oh no, it's okay, keep it in,
you know, kind of wink wink, And then I didn't
even realize that set him up. It was a very
(07:25):
inconsequential moment. I just like to be mysterious, and you know,
if I have a great date and I happen to
make someone jealous, then uh, lock me up.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well yeah, but see, Grace's if I'm out with you
and you're obsessed with using me to make someone else jealous.
That implies to me that you still care about this
other person's opinion. And then it's like, well what am
I doing here? And what if it works? And the
person who you're admitting that you're trying to make jealous
and reaches out and it works, and then okay, And
then all of a sudden you're like, I never mind,
(07:54):
don't need you anymore because I was trying to get
someone else's attention and it worked.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I think you might have anxiety or.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Some Well, first of all, I may, and second of all,
I don't think that's how my brain works. I think
that's exactly what you were trying to do.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's quite a jump with a very small moment. And
everybody has someone from their past that they that they
want to make a little jealous. I mean, I don't
think that makes me such a bad person.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
No one said you were a bad person, Grace. But
so you're saying you wanted to make someone jealous, but
you didn't, but you weren't trying to get their attention.
It wouldn't matter if they reached out. You simply wanted
someone else to see that you've moved on. It's that simple.
It had nothing to do with hoping that they would
see it in DM you or call you or anything,
because that's I don't think that's crazy for me to think.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Not okay, not in the slightest. It was a passing thought.
I thought, Okay, the hand is in the photo. You
know who who cares, Let's let's see what happened.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And they say, if you're not buying this, You're like no,
I mean she she obviously wanted someone to see it.
She admitted to that, who is this person? And why
are you using me? Because here you were trying to
be a good dude and you were doing everything right.
And it's like, at any moment, I guess if so
and so gets his act together and calls, well, then
I'm out. I don't I don't think that's a leap. Guys, like,
(09:08):
I don't think that's a crazy thing to think.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Not at all. Yeah, I mean to me, hold on
to Xavier, you go first. I just think that everything
that she just said, I mean, like, I don't have
anybody in my path that I'm trying to make jealous.
I have moved on from everything. Just to me, that
means grace isn't ready for a relationship, so what to me,
(09:34):
what she's doing and saying is not something normal.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I don't like that because you're just jumping to jealousy
right away. It's also toxic. It can be, But what
if you just want to get the town talking, like, oh,
who is you know she with?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Who is that is that? Her ex is a new guy?
Like I want to just know the gossip.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Behind Yeah, why does it have to be like jealous
the jealous ex? I saw someone the other day on
TikTok it was like, if you want to be toxic
and get people's a ten, And then it was a
girl and she was like, take a picture on the couch,
but have a men's hoodie like sort of like in
the corner or something like draped over like sort of
like so and it'd be like, you know, cozy night
(10:12):
in or whatever, but it's like you're implying that it's
a cozy night in with a guy. That would miss
me though, like go right over my head because a
lot of us were guy hoodies, Like I would.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Just go right over my head.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I look for stuff like this, so like if I
if a pretty girl shows up on my for you
and I'll go through the grid and be like, I
see like a dude's hands. Yeah. Yeah. Then I'm like,
well she's got a boyfriend nobody, that's fine. What do
you mean? Oh no, I'm a single due I know
that though you get what I'm saying, you jump into conclusions. Yeah,
but I mean, I think it's a pretty good, pretty
good odds that I might look stupid if I, you know,
(10:42):
slide in the DMS. And I think, but that person
is not doing anything wrong, and Grace, neither are you necessarily.
But I also I can see why he would feel
like he's being used a little.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, I think we all put things on the
internet wondering how people are going to react. And I'm
I didn't mean to to set him off, but if
I did, then maybe I need someone who's a little
bit more secure.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay, I don't know about that. So let me ask
you this then, Grace, And here's a point blank question.
So you you do not have interest in someone else.
You're not hoping someone else sees that and reaches out.
You're one hundred percent focused on Xavier and seeing him again.
And this has nothing to do with another particular person.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That is correct. However, you know, I'm a very honest person.
I like to make jokes. I have people from my past,
and if that is going to upset the person I'm dating,
then it's probably not a good sit.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I don't know. This seems a little weird, but said
your call, do you want to go out with her again?
We'll pay for it. I mean, she didn't do anything wrong.
But I also see where you're coming from. So what
do you think?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, I think I think I'm gonna pass.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I'm good, Okay, all right, fair enough, So Grace, I'm
sorry it's not going to work out. Maybe I don't know.
Maybe down the road, once you guys have established something,
that might be something where you could say that he
might laugh. But like, you don't know each other, so
he doesn't know what your intentions are. He doesn't know
that there's not someone else that you're still reeling over
or trying to get over whatever. He doesn't know that
(12:10):
because he doesn't know you.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yep, that's fair. I mean, I guess I respect it.
Just don't watch my Instagram stories.
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