August 5, 2025 • 10 mins
Tim is confused why his date won't call him back after having a great night out... Find out why he got ghosted!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I've never been left waiting by the phone.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the Fredshell. Hey Tim, good morning, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Oh man, I'm just super frustrated. I thought I went
on a really awesome date.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Last week.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And she's just not She's just not getting back.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
To me, she's ghosting.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
All right, Well that's frustrating, So why don't you kind
of still listen? How did you meet? Tell us about
any dates you've been on, and then where things are now?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, I mean we met on Bumble, you know, and
we went out and after you know, talking for texting
or whatever for a week on Bumble, we decided to
go out and we just got drinks. And I thought
it was it was super fun. I thought it was
just really you know, talked, had good conversation.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
There weren't any lulls.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Or anything, you know, like I thought I had some
good signs.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But because you can sometimes tell when you're out with somebody,
if you're conversing in the conversations labored or you know,
if you if you bring up a topic that gets
weird or awkward or whatever, but you're saying like everything
was just kind of natural and flowing, and that's usually
a good sign.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Okay, all right, well, let's see if we can figure
out what's going on. We're gonna call this woman, Sophie.
You'll be on the phone at the same time. I
want you to jump in at some point, but we're
gonna ask some questions before that and see if we
can figure out what's going on. And the hope, as
always is that there's something going on here we can
straighten out and then set you up on another date
and pay for that.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Sound good?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Hey, Tim, All right, let's call Sophie. You guys met
on Bumble and you went on a date and you
thought the date was amazing, You thought the conversation was good,
you thought the attraction was there. You were into her,
you were excited about this, and yet you've reached out
for another date since then and you have not heard
from her, no response, text, calls, whatever, nothing. Okay, let's
(01:50):
call Sophie. Figure this out right now, good luck?
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Hello? Hi?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Is it Sophie? Yes, so, I Hey Sophie, good morning.
My name is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred Show,
the morning radio show, and I have to tell you
that you are on the radio right now, and I
would need your permission to continue with the call. Can
we you have for a second, would you mind?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, thank you. You can hang up any time. But we're
calling on behalf of a dude who says you met
you on Bumble. His name is Tim. Do you remember
meeting Tim? Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Oh boy, yeah I do. This is a little on
a pocket. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh wow? Well, I mean that's fair to say.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
But he called us and he told us that you
guys have met on Bumble and went on a date.
He thought the date went great and was excited to
see you again, but says that he hasn't been able
to get ahold of you. We obviously had no trouble.
You picked up in like two rings. So what's going on?
Why haven't you called him back? Why don't you want
to see him again?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Well, I guess things like this are facing point. But
I can go ahead and walk you through one of
the creepiest experiences I think I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You're saying this date was one of the creepiest experiences
that you've ever had.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
The aftermath of the date, Oh definitely.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Okay, Wow, what happened?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Well? I mean, everything was fine when we match some Bumble.
The back and forth, our conversation was really nice, which
is really rare for Bumble. That's kind of like a
watering hole of creatures of the night. So I thought, Okay,
somebody nice and normal, who's having a real conversation with
me the date.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm sure the Bumble people appreciate that. By the way,
I'm sure there it's a it's a watering hole for
creatures of the night. Happy, right you, Bumble five. I
can see it now on a billboard. I think that's
kind of what our show is, is a watering hole
for creatures of the night. Anyway, And I mean that
in the finest way possible and the nicest, kindest way.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So okay, So what happened?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah, date, super fun. After the date though, that's the makeout.
Really weird day after the date, he asked for my
email and he already had my phone number. People don't
really ask for emails, you know, But okay.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Sure, he said he had a surprise for me.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Fine, like out the email, it's all when it took
a really dark turn. The subject line was I picture
a future with you. Whatever could that possibly mean? So
inside the email, I kid you not he had a PowerPoint.
Now look at that power point? Possibly mean yes, I
(04:30):
clicked on that PowerPoint and I was absolutely shocked. This
guy actually made a PowerPoint using AI photos, mind you
to show us what our life would be like together.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So this dude went to like JT GPT and he
typed in like, you know, me and Tim and selfie
together forever or something, okay, and then he sent this
to you in a little organized manner. So what sort
of images did he Oh no, did he have a
I make of the two of you?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
The entire play by play? Engagement photos? Oh yeah, oh yeah,
wedding photos. I will say he picked a really high
stress for me.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yeah, pregnancy oh wow?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Okay, kids, now you're what you have?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Boy or girl?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Boys?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Say the girl?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
The girl you know?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Questionable?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You know, maybe she's a late bloomer.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
She'll come into it.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
The kid.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
One of the AI children that you would have together. Okay. Wow.
The wedding.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
There was a cat, a caligo named Pebbles.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
A cat. You own a cat now too? In AI
world with this guy who you went on one day
with from.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Bumble absolutely wow.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Wow wow, Okay, I mean to hey, way to have vision.
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Let me say something here. A lot of women complain
that guys don't know what they want. This guy quite
clearly knows what he wants. This is not what we mean.
This is not what we mean. Let me bring Tim
into this. Cai asked her, Wow, Tim, you didn't mention
when you said the things that she wants to responding
to you. You didn't mention this fantasy world that you
(06:23):
created at the two of them in a PowerPoint presentation.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I mean, what was the issue with that?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
What was the issue? I think there are kind of
a lot of issues.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Actually, go ahead, he has to ask that is an issue?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I mean, is that normal behavior for you to create
a fantasy world with someone you just met, including pictures
of events that didn't take place.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Well, I mean it was just like a joke, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I mean, I know we're not married, I know we
don't have kids.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
It was just like, you know, hey, like I see
this getting serious, you know, if if you're.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
In It took a long time though, no.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
No, no check EBT and the new program that I
had it took like twenty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
But I don't I don't know that I would say
to somebody after a first date all that stuff anyway,
not to mention creating the fake pictures of.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
What all that would look like like.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I think a lot of people would be alarmed if
you told them after the first date that you saw
a future, you know, having kids in buying a cat
with them. I think that people might that might be
a little abrasive for people. But then you you went
ahead and took the extra step of creating the images.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Well, I didn't create the images they I did.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, is a cat really abrasive? I mean, they're pretty
pretty creatures?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I thought, why.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I think it's the purchasing of the cat combined with
the kids who you've named, and yeah, right right, yeah,
I think that.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Really, Like you know, it's kind of like plug and play.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
It's like I have, you know, an image of.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
What I want in my life, and I'm just you know,
getting this person to see if they go along.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
With that, and this guy sim is just on the
vision board. How is that any different than putting a
picture of a Ferrari on your on your mirror. The
man wants to you know, aspire to have a Ferrari,
except this time, he's uh. The ferrari is is Sophie,
and he made fake images of the children that they
don't have.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So I look, that's oriented. Is normal.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
The man is focused, The man knows what he wants.
I uh, I may be changing my mind about this.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Her so many normal things? What what what I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
People gotta you know, they gotta stand out right, Like
you don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Her middle name? Bro, you just met her. You don't
need that for I'm silly. Yeah, AI is out of control.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I would look your your your imagination has taken you know,
kind of gotten the best of you here. And I
think again, I feel like if you communicated these things
to her after a first date, that that in itself
would spook a lot of people because even though you
have good intention, you just met now you went ahead
and created fake pictures of this. I don't suppose you
have them like in frames in your house or anything,
(09:10):
like you haven't taken it.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
What can you imagine like if she went over to
his house and like that side is the picture of
Actually I think I just did give you.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
No, I don't I don't have any I don't have
any frames.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
That would be weird.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
That would be you have Okay, that would be weird. Sophie,
you haven't said much. Are you just frightened or I mean,
I don't mean it.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You're supposed to.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
It's supposed to be cute.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Why are you yelling? A? This is not cute.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
This is a thing that documentaries murder mysteries on Netflix AREMADEO.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, this is how that's goods certainly not that. Okay,
I'm gonna ask the question.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Oh no, I think you should totally understand why this
is no murdering anybody. But I think you may have
murdered your chances at going out with her again. But
I have to ask the question. That's what I'm paid
to do. Do you, Sophie, would you like to go
out with him again? You know he was a little
he came in a little hot with the AI images
(10:15):
of the two of you.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Together and any more AI images if you don't.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Like them, see, he won't send anymore. How about that?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
No? According to jet chat, whoa, I can't even say it.
According to chat GBT, I will not be going on
a second date.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Oh see, she asked chat GPT too, and chat even
chat GPT is like, well, this is weird. This is
a weird use of me. That's what chat geft said. Okay,
all right, Look so it's not going to work out, Tim,
I'm sorry. Look you sound like a sweet guy. It
was a little aggressive. You spooked her, so I might
be mindful of that moving forward. But good luck to
you and Sophie. Thanks for answering. Goodluck to you as well.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Thank you
I've never been left waiting by the phone.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the Fredshell. Hey Tim, good morning, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Oh man, I'm just super frustrated. I thought I went
on a really awesome date.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Last week.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And she's just not She's just not getting back.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
To me, she's ghosting.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
All right, Well that's frustrating, So why don't you kind
of still listen? How did you meet? Tell us about
any dates you've been on, and then where things are now?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, I mean we met on Bumble, you know, and
we went out and after you know, talking for texting
or whatever for a week on Bumble, we decided to
go out and we just got drinks. And I thought
it was it was super fun. I thought it was
just really you know, talked, had good conversation.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
There weren't any lulls.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Or anything, you know, like I thought I had some
good signs.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But because you can sometimes tell when you're out with somebody,
if you're conversing in the conversations labored or you know,
if you if you bring up a topic that gets
weird or awkward or whatever, but you're saying like everything
was just kind of natural and flowing, and that's usually
a good sign.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Okay, all right, well, let's see if we can figure
out what's going on. We're gonna call this woman, Sophie.
You'll be on the phone at the same time. I
want you to jump in at some point, but we're
gonna ask some questions before that and see if we
can figure out what's going on. And the hope, as
always is that there's something going on here we can
straighten out and then set you up on another date
and pay for that.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Sound good?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Hey, Tim, All right, let's call Sophie. You guys met
on Bumble and you went on a date and you
thought the date was amazing, You thought the conversation was good,
you thought the attraction was there. You were into her,
you were excited about this, and yet you've reached out
for another date since then and you have not heard
from her, no response, text, calls, whatever, nothing. Okay, let's
(01:50):
call Sophie. Figure this out right now, good luck?
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Hello? Hi?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Is it Sophie? Yes, so, I Hey Sophie, good morning.
My name is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred Show,
the morning radio show, and I have to tell you
that you are on the radio right now, and I
would need your permission to continue with the call. Can
we you have for a second, would you mind?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, thank you. You can hang up any time. But we're
calling on behalf of a dude who says you met
you on Bumble. His name is Tim. Do you remember
meeting Tim? Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Oh boy, yeah I do. This is a little on
a pocket. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh wow? Well, I mean that's fair to say.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
But he called us and he told us that you
guys have met on Bumble and went on a date.
He thought the date went great and was excited to
see you again, but says that he hasn't been able
to get ahold of you. We obviously had no trouble.
You picked up in like two rings. So what's going on?
Why haven't you called him back? Why don't you want
to see him again?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Well, I guess things like this are facing point. But
I can go ahead and walk you through one of
the creepiest experiences I think I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You're saying this date was one of the creepiest experiences
that you've ever had.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
The aftermath of the date, Oh definitely.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Okay, Wow, what happened?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Well? I mean, everything was fine when we match some Bumble.
The back and forth, our conversation was really nice, which
is really rare for Bumble. That's kind of like a
watering hole of creatures of the night. So I thought, Okay,
somebody nice and normal, who's having a real conversation with
me the date.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm sure the Bumble people appreciate that. By the way,
I'm sure there it's a it's a watering hole for
creatures of the night. Happy, right you, Bumble five. I
can see it now on a billboard. I think that's
kind of what our show is, is a watering hole
for creatures of the night. Anyway, And I mean that
in the finest way possible and the nicest, kindest way.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So okay, So what happened?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah, date, super fun. After the date though, that's the makeout.
Really weird day after the date, he asked for my
email and he already had my phone number. People don't
really ask for emails, you know, But okay.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Sure, he said he had a surprise for me.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Fine, like out the email, it's all when it took
a really dark turn. The subject line was I picture
a future with you. Whatever could that possibly mean? So
inside the email, I kid you not he had a PowerPoint.
Now look at that power point? Possibly mean yes, I
(04:30):
clicked on that PowerPoint and I was absolutely shocked. This
guy actually made a PowerPoint using AI photos, mind you
to show us what our life would be like together.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So this dude went to like JT GPT and he
typed in like, you know, me and Tim and selfie
together forever or something, okay, and then he sent this
to you in a little organized manner. So what sort
of images did he Oh no, did he have a
I make of the two of you?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
The entire play by play? Engagement photos? Oh yeah, oh yeah,
wedding photos. I will say he picked a really high
stress for me.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yeah, pregnancy oh wow?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Okay, kids, now you're what you have?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Boy or girl?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Boys?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Say the girl?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
The girl you know?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Questionable?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You know, maybe she's a late bloomer.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
She'll come into it.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
The kid.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
One of the AI children that you would have together. Okay. Wow.
The wedding.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
There was a cat, a caligo named Pebbles.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
A cat. You own a cat now too? In AI
world with this guy who you went on one day
with from.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Bumble absolutely wow.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Wow wow, Okay, I mean to hey, way to have vision.
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Let me say something here. A lot of women complain
that guys don't know what they want. This guy quite
clearly knows what he wants. This is not what we mean.
This is not what we mean. Let me bring Tim
into this. Cai asked her, Wow, Tim, you didn't mention
when you said the things that she wants to responding
to you. You didn't mention this fantasy world that you
(06:23):
created at the two of them in a PowerPoint presentation.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I mean, what was the issue with that?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
What was the issue? I think there are kind of
a lot of issues.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Actually, go ahead, he has to ask that is an issue?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I mean, is that normal behavior for you to create
a fantasy world with someone you just met, including pictures
of events that didn't take place.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Well, I mean it was just like a joke, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I mean, I know we're not married, I know we
don't have kids.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
It was just like, you know, hey, like I see
this getting serious, you know, if if you're.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
In It took a long time though, no.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
No, no check EBT and the new program that I
had it took like twenty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
But I don't I don't know that I would say
to somebody after a first date all that stuff anyway,
not to mention creating the fake pictures of.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
What all that would look like like.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I think a lot of people would be alarmed if
you told them after the first date that you saw
a future, you know, having kids in buying a cat
with them. I think that people might that might be
a little abrasive for people. But then you you went
ahead and took the extra step of creating the images.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Well, I didn't create the images they I did.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, is a cat really abrasive? I mean, they're pretty
pretty creatures?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I thought, why.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I think it's the purchasing of the cat combined with
the kids who you've named, and yeah, right right, yeah,
I think that.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Really, Like you know, it's kind of like plug and play.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
It's like I have, you know, an image of.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
What I want in my life, and I'm just you know,
getting this person to see if they go along.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
With that, and this guy sim is just on the
vision board. How is that any different than putting a
picture of a Ferrari on your on your mirror. The
man wants to you know, aspire to have a Ferrari,
except this time, he's uh. The ferrari is is Sophie,
and he made fake images of the children that they
don't have.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So I look, that's oriented. Is normal.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
The man is focused, The man knows what he wants.
I uh, I may be changing my mind about this.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Her so many normal things? What what what I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
People gotta you know, they gotta stand out right, Like
you don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Her middle name? Bro, you just met her. You don't
need that for I'm silly. Yeah, AI is out of control.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I would look your your your imagination has taken you know,
kind of gotten the best of you here. And I
think again, I feel like if you communicated these things
to her after a first date, that that in itself
would spook a lot of people because even though you
have good intention, you just met now you went ahead
and created fake pictures of this. I don't suppose you
have them like in frames in your house or anything,
(09:10):
like you haven't taken it.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
What can you imagine like if she went over to
his house and like that side is the picture of
Actually I think I just did give you.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
No, I don't I don't have any I don't have
any frames.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
That would be weird.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
That would be you have Okay, that would be weird. Sophie,
you haven't said much. Are you just frightened or I mean,
I don't mean it.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You're supposed to.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
It's supposed to be cute.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Why are you yelling? A? This is not cute.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
This is a thing that documentaries murder mysteries on Netflix AREMADEO.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, this is how that's goods certainly not that. Okay,
I'm gonna ask the question.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Oh no, I think you should totally understand why this
is no murdering anybody. But I think you may have
murdered your chances at going out with her again. But
I have to ask the question. That's what I'm paid
to do. Do you, Sophie, would you like to go
out with him again? You know he was a little
he came in a little hot with the AI images
(10:15):
of the two of you.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Together and any more AI images if you don't.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Like them, see, he won't send anymore. How about that?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
No? According to jet chat, whoa, I can't even say it.
According to chat GBT, I will not be going on
a second date.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Oh see, she asked chat GPT too, and chat even
chat GPT is like, well, this is weird. This is
a weird use of me. That's what chat geft said. Okay,
all right, Look so it's not going to work out, Tim,
I'm sorry. Look you sound like a sweet guy. It
was a little aggressive. You spooked her, so I might
be mindful of that moving forward. But good luck to
you and Sophie. Thanks for answering. Goodluck to you as well.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Thank you
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Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis, to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.