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the twenty eighth. Never been left waiting by the phone.
It's the Fread Show. Sidney, Welcome to the show. How
are you hi?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm well?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
How are you doing? Okay? What's going on with this guy?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Paul?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Tell us everything? How did you guys meet? Tell us
about any dates you've been on? And then why do
you think you're being ghosted?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Awesome? So Paul and I am at Little Bar a
few weekends ago.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
We flirted all I gave him my number and he
asked me out for sushi.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So this is probably about our second third date. It
was fun, he seemed intriguing.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
We had a great banter, and after our date, the
sushi date, he ended.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Up being cold to me.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I'm frustrated because I don't know why he was so
cold to me. And after that date he kind of
just disappeared. So I'm here to figure out why why
he goes to me. After our date, I thought it
went well. I'm really interested in him and I want
to know if we can go on the second date.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, all right, because you met, you met in a while,
and we talk about this all the time. That matters, right,
If you meet somebody in person, that matters versus the
dating apps for the websites or whatever, because you can
gauge chemistry. You know what they look like, you know,
you know if you're instantly attracted to them. You already
know a little bit about the conversation and stuff, so
that's usually a good sign. And then you go on
a date and you can to spend more time together
(01:52):
and you felt genuinely you felt like that went well?
You like you're really puzzled.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yes, yes, exactly. I'm really frustrated.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I'm really confused as to why he would just disappear,
and I'm even more confused as to why he looks
so cold to me.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
We had great banter.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, it's frustrating to you because when you finally meet
someone that you want to hang out with and then
for some reason they disappeared and you don't know why.
That's frustrating on a lot of levels. So let's call
this guy Paul. In just a second, Sydney. You'll be
on the phone at the same time, and I don't
want you to say anything right at first, but at
some point you're welcome to jump in on the call.
And the hope, as always is that we can figure
out what's going on. Hopefully it's he can explain it
(02:29):
and maybe he's been busy or who knows, and we'll
set you guys up on another date that we pay for.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Sound good, sounds great?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Hey, Sydney. Hi, all right, welcome back. Let's call this
guy Paul. You met actually out and exchange phone numbers
and then you went on a date. You went out
for sushi. You thought the date was fun. You know,
he was interesting, the banter was good. But he's been
very cold or non existent since the date. And you
want to know what happened, because you know, usually when
you meet someone out in public and hit it off
(02:58):
and then go on a date, and a date you
thought went well at that, it's like, well, why why
wouldn't we keep talking?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Why wouldn't we go out again? Right?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Let's call this guy and figure this out right now?
Good luck, Sydney, Thank you? Nop Is this Paul? Yes, hey, Paul,
good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling for the
Fred Show, the morning radio show, and I have to
tell you that we are on the radio right now
(03:27):
and I would need your permission to continue with the call.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Can we chat for just a second? Would you mind?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Wait? What? Hold on?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Can we just can we chat for a second on
the radio. I just need you to say yes on
the radio. I don't know, I guess okay, that's yes, yes,
thank you. So we're calling on behalf of a woman
named Sidney, who I guess you met out recently and
then you went on a sushi date with Do you
remember this woman.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yeah, yeah, how do you know?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
You know?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Okay, well, because she reached out to us and told
us about you and meeting you and your date, and
she felt like everything went really well. But she says
that she hasn't you've been cold since the date or
non existent, and she feels like you're ghosting her after
what she thought was a great date. So is that true?
Ghost saying, I mean what happened? Ah man, that's a lot.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Yeah, yes, I know. I mean, I'm not trying to ghost.
I just it was just a it was a weird date.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
It's a weird date.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And I mean that you're You're right.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
You're accurate.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
What you said was true. We went out for sushi,
but it was just weird conversation. I guess, Okay, well
what does that mean? Oh well there's okay. Well I
was getting there Sydney, but Sydney is here. I'm sorry, Paul,
I forgot to mention. I totally forgot that she was
also on the phone. What was weird though? Because she
didn't think it was weird. She thought it was great,
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So what was weird for you?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
No, it was totally weird.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
I was telling her, So, I'm helping out one of
my friends through like this really ugly, ugly breakup.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
His ex causeec's cheating and he like walked in on it,
and so.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
It's been really hard for my buddy, and so I've
been there for I'm telling her this story and she goes, oh,
like yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Mean it's okay for for somebody to cheat in a relationship.
And I just wait, I said, wait what And she
just looks me dead the eye and says, well, yeah,
I mean men are.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Allowed to cheat.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
My man's allowed to cheat as long as long as
he's respectful.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And she respect I'm like, how do I respectfully cheat?
I mean, I guess there's there's respectful boundaries or respectful
understanding of what is allowed in a relationship and what
is not. But inherently cheating is lying, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
And so I told her. She told me this, and
I just looked at her and I said, you're you're
describing like an open relationship or polyamory or something like that,
and I'm not into it. I think it's kind of
disrespectful for you to dismiss what happened to my friend.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And she was just adamant.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
She goes, no, no, no, like she was fine, It's
just got to be respect.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
She just kept saying respectful, respect, respectful respect. Okay, I
got it, I gotta get out of here.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, let me ask Sydney, why, how? What is respectful cheating?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I think all men cheat. I just don't want to
know about it. Respect for cheating to me is as
long as mine you know to me what you're doing.
I think that's fine.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That's fine. Let me just be clear, Sydney. If I'm
dating you, I'm respecting you by sleeping with other women
and not telling you about it.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yes, yes, who hurt you?
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Like who hurt you? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I don't see a problem with it.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I think as long as you are doing what you
want to do in the relationship, that you don't tell
me anything about it, that's perfectly fine. I don't want
to know about it. I don't want to know about it.
But if you want to go out and have all
the fun, whether any type of woman you want to
go out and do that.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Don't forgot to tell me? Is this because lord? Is
this because you want to cheat?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Be like, is it that you want to be in
an open relationship, because just let's just call it what
it is, or I mean, why is if it's okay
for your partner, then is it okay for you?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yes, yes, I am so.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Then why don't we just call this what it is?
It's an open relationship.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Why don't we just say from the beginning, like, you
want to see other people, you want your partner to
be able to see other people. Why are we calling
it cheating?
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Then?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
If this is what your expectation is of a relationship,
that both sides can be free, then that's I don't know,
that's not cheating respectfully, that's an open relationship. And I
realize I'm I'm labeling things here, but I mean, just
for the clarity, it doesn't really make sense what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I think it's more fun to be ambiguous. I think
it's more fun to call.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
It cheating respectively and do not have any labels whatsoever,
and then to go out and do what you'd like
and then not tell me about it.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I mean, it's the same way for me, though, I
could go out and do it if I want you.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
I'm still on the phone too. Thanks, you're having the
same conversation with him that that you are having with me.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
You are not listening, Like, first of all, if I'm
on the radio, can I just say I want to
make it clear, like.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Hello, Hello, I am not a cheater.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
I don't cheat, and I like to go into a
relationship with saying I'm going to respect you by not
sleeping with a million other women while I'm seeing you.
And again like Sidney, you're you're just confused or maybe
you're hurt. I don't, I don't know, but you're you
looking for an open relationship, and I hope you find it.
(08:32):
I truly do. But you're not going to find it
with me. You'll probably find it with I don't know,
two or three other guys.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
If I'm being completely honest.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I don't think that's it's a relationship, Like it's not.
He's looking for a committed relationship. You're looking for an
open relationship. It's that simple. The sole cheating thing is
that like a fantasy of yours, Like are you into
the idea of someone sneaking around on you? Or does
that keep you on your toes like that you wonder
if someone's sneaking around on you?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That's what this it. Yeah, I definitely live for the
thrill of it.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I love the idea of it more than I would
say I would. I don't know what to think, but
I could say that if I'm going into a relationship
or as you were all saying, an open relationship, still
I wouldn't want anybody to tell me what's going on.
I still stand by the fact that all many cheat.
I just don't want to know about it.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Okay, well he doesn't, and he's saying he wants a
more traditional relationship.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Ky case at these people straight.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
I mean, I'm here for her if she wants, if
she wants to live her life this way girl living.
But what you're going to get is a trip to
the clinic. Okay. If you don't want people to be
honest with you about what they're.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Doing, yeah, that's that's a that's a whole different.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Topic, is comdia.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, I feel like you're asking for problems here without
the transparency. And you got to know a city.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Look, you can live however you want to live and whatever,
you know, whatever gets your rocks off, good for you.
But you've got to understand a lot of people are
not going to be into that, like a lot of
people's definition of a relationship, and I'm not saying it's
right wrong, but I think most people's definition of a
committed relationship is one on one, not one on one
plus cheating.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Right, Yeah, that's fair. I get that.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I honestly, I think I'm perfectly right in what I'm saying, ok,
And I'm going to stand by it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I think you're probably right.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
But a lot of people ever love to cheat on
you girl.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
All right, Well, it's not for Paul, and it's not
going to be for everybody. And I guess Sydney's okay
with that, and Sydney, there you have it. So he's
got into that, into those parameters. He wants something more traditional.
You want something different, and I hope that you find it.
I wish you the best of luck, Paul. I wish
you luck as well.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Thank you,