March 31, 2025 • 16 mins
We find out why Abby got ghosted after the first date! Listen to hear the shocking outcome!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I've ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Shell. Hey Abby, good morning, Welcome to the show.
How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm good, guys, how are you doing great?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome to waiting by the phone.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
So we're trying to figure out what happened with this
guy Patrick, and we got to have the backstory.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
So how did you meet?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Tell us about any dates you've been on and uh
and how those went, and then where things are now?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
So first I met Patrick at a Saint Patrick's Stay
party the irony there, and we just we just talked
for like hours.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We both have.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Kids, and we bonded over that, like we're both single parents,
you know, just talking about like the funny stories that
our that our kids, you know, do, So we just
like really clicked right away. It was like instant connection.
Then we like the more we talk, like he was
asking like, you know, where about I lived. We found
(01:00):
out that we lived pretty close to each other, and
he asked for my number before he left, which was like,
you know, I was excited because like I thought he
was really cute and we feel like I felt like
there was definitely connection there. So we had been kind
of texting back and forth after he got my number,
and then a few days later.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It was a really nice day and Patrick was like, hey,
you know, like I'm going to take my son to
the park, which was not too far from my house
because I said it was pretty close to his and
like I said, we lived pretty close. And he was like, hey,
do you like want to come and join.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It's like I felt comfortable because it's like a big thing,
like introducing your children to any other adult that you had,
Like even if he's like not my boyfriend, it's just
a lot to introduce to anybody coming into our lives.
So I really appreciated him saying like if I felt
comfortable like bringing my kids over, so.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I grat So I have two daughters, and I said, sure,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Like what why not? You know, it's it's innocent. It's
not a day. You know, it's just kind of meeting
up and kind of getting to know us better. And
you know, we had like a real like it was
a really it was really nice to see him again.
We tried a lot, the kids had a lot of
fun playing. But after that, like I never heard from
him again, Like it was very weird, like he didn't
(02:16):
like I sent him a text afterwards. They said, hey, like,
you know, thanks for inviting us, we had a great time,
you know, talk to you soon or like love to
see you again, you know, let me know. And it
was just cricket. So I just don't know, like what
happened if I said something, you know, It's just I'm
just sitting here trying to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah that's interesting because you guys, you did meet in
the wild, per se, you met in person, so this
guy wasn't a total stranger, and you have kids and
he has kids, so you know, getting them together and
figuring out, you know, if they're going to get along
and stuff. I suppose I've seen a sense enough and
since things went well in your opinion, then it's like, well,
wait a minute, what's going on. Why wouldn't this guy
(02:54):
call me again?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, it was just very strange, Like I felt like
both interactions, like the first and the steid you know,
like you know, hanging out, we're fine, like total you know,
innocent but fine, and you know, there was no awkwardness
at all.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So I'm just I'm kind of stumped of what could
have happened.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Okay, well let's call this guy Patrick. See if we
can get him on the phone. We'll ask these questions
for you. You'll be on the phone, of course, at
the same time. At some point you're welcome to jump
in after we get you some phone. And the hope
is always is that we can figure out what happened
or what's going on. Set you guys up on another
date and we'll pay for this. All right, Let's find
I was going on for too of waiting by the
phone right after Lola Young back in two minutes. Stay
(03:33):
right here at commercial days, the Fred Show on the
radio and the iHeart app check in live and then
anytime get caught up and make us a preset starts
for the Freend' show on demand. Hey Abby, Hello, Hi Abby,
Let's call Patrick. You guys met at the Saint Patrick's party.
You talked for a long time. You thought it went
really well. You bonded over the fact that you both
are single parents and you have kids, and so you
decided collectively to get together at a park or a
(03:57):
playground or whatever with the kids. And it wasn't really
a day per se, but you know, the kids got
to meet each other and you guys got to talk
some morning and you thought everything went really well, except
you have not heard from Patrick since then, and you
want to know why exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So I'm just kind of racking my brain.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
What's happening? So I don't know, Like at this point,
I need some help. I need some intervention.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Look at mom multitasking over there. I got the kids
in the background still try to figure out. Yeah, you know,
I mean you got needs. G I understand. Let's call
this guy now, Good luck, Abby.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Hello? Hi is this Patrick? Yes? This is Ease, Hey Patrick,
good morning. My name is Fred.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I'm calling for the Fred's Show, the Morning radio show,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now, and I would need your permission
to continue with the call. Is uh is it cooefully
talk for just a second.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's fine.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Okay, Well, thank you for calling on behalf of a
many reached out to us. Her name is Abby. I
guess you guys met at at a party recently and
went on a date. I guess it was kind of
more of like a like an outing with your kids.
Do you remember this woman?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah, yeah, I remember Abby.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, Okay, So what happened because she we just talked
to her a second ago, and she was talking about
how she met you at the party and you guys
bonded over being parents and and you know, she thought
everything went great. You guys apparently decided to meet up
with your kids, and she hasn't heard from you since.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So what what happened?
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah, I was I was going to take my
son out to a park and just called her up
to see if she wanted to join. You know, nothing serious,
but yeah, we met up. She's she was great, you know,
I mean, she's really fun to be around. Honestly, her
her two kids were just Paris was kind of my opinion.
(05:52):
Her kids, Yeah, well just in the in the way
that they terrorized my son, and I guess me. I
do want to say though, you know, I'm a dad,
I'm a single dad. I understand how kids can be.
But her, her two kids were just next level. I
mean they they spent most of the afternoon just double
(06:14):
teaming on my son, taking his toys, pushing him. One
of her daughters sneezed at one point, you know, I said,
God bless you, and she just made a bee line
straight for me and wiped her nose and just wiped
it all over my jeans.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You know, we kind of laughed, but.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I was thinking, this is this is really out of line,
and so I tried to get him to play some games.
They just didn't want to listen to me. One of
them just straight up told me I was ugly and
then just off running like.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Okay, I mean that.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
That hurts the ego a little bit, and I'm like,
all right, whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But you know the worst part of it.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
They they're biers. Both of her kids bite like, one
of them literally bit me. I don't know if you've
ever been bit by a kid, but that hurts.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I'm sorry to laugh, but I mean, okay, So yeah,
Robin germs on you. They're biting you, they're calling you ugly,
they're roasting you. And what is during all of this,
Like what what is she just watching this and laughing?
Is she enabling it?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Is she? Is she trying to correct them? I mean,
what's happening?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
What is her? Well, no, she wasn't trying to correct them.
I don't know that she was enabling other than just
not stepping in, but it just seemed like they ran
the show. I could tell that there's probably no consequences
at home, you know, if they get in trouble. It
just felt like they were in charge. So I don't know,
it was.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It was just a lot for me for an afternoon.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
She never really told them to stop, and I didn't
really feel like it was my place to do that.
So I thought, I'll just remove myself from the situation
after this afternoon, we can kind of be done with it.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, I didn't like that much either, But let me
bring Abby in. I forgot you mentioned that Abby is here. Abby,
you didn't You didn't say was that your kids were
biting this man?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Okay, so my two year old guys, Like we are
working on it. I old her to apologize. Like, first
of all, Terris is like really extreme and like I
really don't like that word, especially associated with my children.
So I really hate that. Like that's just for me,
Like if he's turned off by me, that's fine. Like
(08:18):
him using that word to describe my children, that's a
huge turnoff by for him, like for me towards him.
They are not. They obviously were like a little more
on the excited side, obviously to like meet new people,
meet a new kids. Like they weren't ganging up on
his son I did try to interject, there's just so
much like it's hard to be a single parent, like
(08:40):
you know, like it's kind of hard since he like
I divoted some issues like with my act, like I
don't have much of support from my child's father, so
it's me doing it all. So it's like really hard
that he's like blasting me as a mother. It's just
very hurtful because I was trying so like he's kind
of going to the stream that I did nothing.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, I mean my mom, my sister, and I were
raised by my mom primarily and she was a single
parent for a while, And I commiserate with what you're saying.
I think, though you know your kids can act up.
But just from my perspective, if it were me and
I'm Patrick, I guess what I would have been looking
for is less about what a two year old's doing
(09:21):
and more about maybe what you're doing about it. Because
he certainly couldn't discipline the kids. That would have been
a chance.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
That I'm saying, you're so you're listening to what he's
saying that I didn't discipline my childrend Well, I'm asking
you if okay, I'm not criticiaging you I started the
whole thing out by not criticizing you, but I'm saying
if I but I had already, I had already explained that.
When she did go to bite him, I took her
aside and said, you cannot be doing that, and you
(09:49):
need to apologize.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Is that what happened? Patrick?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Did?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
She did?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
She was Are you not giving her enough credit for
her trying to manage her kids?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Well, no, no, she did step in. I mean, it's
not like she didn't do anything. It's just that I
didn't see necessarily the results coming out of her telling
her kids what to do. I mean, it's not like
they just continue doing it. They would stop, but then
it would they would back up. So and again I
support for her, for single moms, and and I do
(10:19):
apologize for using the word terrorists. That may have been
a little harsh. That's not necessarily what I meant. It
just it was a lot for me and my boy.
We're just not used to that kind of energy. So
it was just a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And that's fine. But like, also, I feel.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Like he's trying to come off at like their boat
says like his son, Yes, his son's behaved, but his
son also like through stand at my daughter's a few
times they were biting the child like by like I said,
only my.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Two year old bit him, and like again.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I disciplined and we're working on it. Like she's too,
so like maybe she got scared, you know, like we're
trying to communicate with her. We're trying to explain that
that's not okay. Times her older sister will get upset
and bite her back, but o, my older daughter does
not bite other people. Like it's a it's a sibling
thing between them that like we're trying to work on.
(11:10):
So the fact that like it's all coming down on me,
it's just like really hard, Like I'm trying my best,
and I know he's trying his best, like I would
never have used that like you knows, feeling that he
didn't disciplined his son enough or that his son was
doing things like I give everybody like I give everybody,
like a great assault. I give everybody, like you know,
(11:30):
I feel for I feel for every single parent out
there trying the best they can.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, we we are not trying to criticize you.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
We are not trying to criticize you at all, but
I think we have to.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Respect his decision to not want to be a part
of that right now. It was a lot for him,
and can you can that right, fine, you can admit.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That totally fine, That is totally fine. I can admit that.
The whole thing is is just like.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Be a man and say, you know what, I feel
like this is not working and like, you know, like
it's better off.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Like that's hold on, hold on just one second. This
is not an indictment on parents as parents as a whole.
And I also understand we're talking about your children and
so understandably you have emotion about this and you should
and that is fair. But that's probably why he chose
not to say anything and just sort of fade away,
(12:18):
because he probably didn't want to have to tell a
woman who he just met, I think your kids were
unruly and then get into this sort of conversation because
I understand why you're defensive. I totally do, But I
also think you need to understand from the other side
that it's a difficult conversation to have with someone when
you're talking about their kids.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, sure, but he didn't even have to bring up
the kids. He could have just said, you know what,
I'm just not.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Feeling the vibe like I think, you know, I'm not
really a relationship, you know what.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Honestly, like just say something like.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Don't leave somebody on red, like just be respectful. Like
I've had to end things. They're not they're uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
They're uncomfortable when you have to tell someone yeah, you know,
like I'm.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Not feeling it, or like you could. There's a respectful
way to end things without ghosting.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That's all I'm saying, Like, I just feel like I
deserved a little bit more respect than that after.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I feel like we really did have a connection.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But that's fine.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I think
that your you know, your your emotion and defensiveness about
this is also fair. But I also think that it's
possible that when we're talking about our own kids and
our own families and our own especially when they're our
own kids, that maybe you're a little blinded by how
that experience may have been for someone else and why
(13:32):
that may not be for them. I also understand the
communication part of this, So look, no one's coming down
on you, no one's criticizing you. It's not for him.
He has that right that is dating but Patrick, I'll
ask the question. I mean, would you like to go
out with her again? Maybe we you know, don't bring
the kids this time, and then slowly work on that
(13:52):
whole thing. Uh you know another time.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
You know, Honestly, had we had this conversation, I may
have understood a little more. We we kind of kept
it pretty surface. But I really dig the fire that
she has, that she's representing standing up for her kids.
I see that she's working on it. I'm I'm absolutely
not opposed to going out again if oh this, I do.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Not see this coming. So you have no problem being
a human Kleenex again.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Well, no, I don't think it's going to be that way.
I think I just have a bit more of an
understanding of what she's going through, and I like her.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Passion, all right.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I mean, look, I'm a little surprised, but Abby, I
I understand where you're coming from. Patrick, I I didn't
expect this. But great, So it'll be an adult date.
You guys will go out again. We'll pay for it,
and then, uh, you know, maybe we'll check in down
the road. But Abby, I appreciate your perspective and I
hope that you can see his and maybe see where
we're coming from as observers, and I hope you guys
(14:54):
have a great date.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I can.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I mean, I appreciate it, and obviously, like maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
We do have some stuff to talk about, so you appreciate,
like Patrick being honest, I can respect the honesty.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Here, so I can. So hopefully, you know, if it
doesn't work, it doesn't work, Like Patrick, you could be
honest with me, we don't have to do this with
the radio. If it doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah you did. You did kind of chew us out
a little bit. So I'm a little afraid of I'm
a little afraid.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Of that we're talking about your kids. I get it.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, I've had a rough go and I do stand up.
So I mean, I really wasn't trying to bite anybody's
head off, but like when you start talking about my
kids and me as a parent, like you know, obviously,
I'm always going to defend what I believe is right.
So it wasn't anything that cans you guys, because we
all we all don't know each other.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, hey, I think he's a little turned on over there.
So that's right.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You guys go up as adults, have a great cent
and we'll pay for it, and we'll check you later, and.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Good luck to both of you. The Entertainer Report and
three hundred bucks Showbiz. He keep both. In the next
ten minutes. We're back in two. The French Show.
I've ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Shell. Hey Abby, good morning, Welcome to the show.
How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm good, guys, how are you doing great?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome to waiting by the phone.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
So we're trying to figure out what happened with this
guy Patrick, and we got to have the backstory.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
So how did you meet?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Tell us about any dates you've been on and uh
and how those went, and then where things are now?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
So first I met Patrick at a Saint Patrick's Stay
party the irony there, and we just we just talked
for like hours.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We both have.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Kids, and we bonded over that, like we're both single parents,
you know, just talking about like the funny stories that
our that our kids, you know, do, So we just
like really clicked right away. It was like instant connection.
Then we like the more we talk, like he was
asking like, you know, where about I lived. We found
(01:00):
out that we lived pretty close to each other, and
he asked for my number before he left, which was like,
you know, I was excited because like I thought he
was really cute and we feel like I felt like
there was definitely connection there. So we had been kind
of texting back and forth after he got my number,
and then a few days later.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It was a really nice day and Patrick was like, hey,
you know, like I'm going to take my son to
the park, which was not too far from my house
because I said it was pretty close to his and
like I said, we lived pretty close. And he was like, hey,
do you like want to come and join.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It's like I felt comfortable because it's like a big thing,
like introducing your children to any other adult that you had,
Like even if he's like not my boyfriend, it's just
a lot to introduce to anybody coming into our lives.
So I really appreciated him saying like if I felt
comfortable like bringing my kids over, so.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I grat So I have two daughters, and I said, sure,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Like what why not? You know, it's it's innocent. It's
not a day. You know, it's just kind of meeting
up and kind of getting to know us better. And
you know, we had like a real like it was
a really it was really nice to see him again.
We tried a lot, the kids had a lot of
fun playing. But after that, like I never heard from
him again, Like it was very weird, like he didn't
(02:16):
like I sent him a text afterwards. They said, hey, like,
you know, thanks for inviting us, we had a great time,
you know, talk to you soon or like love to
see you again, you know, let me know. And it
was just cricket. So I just don't know, like what
happened if I said something, you know, It's just I'm
just sitting here trying to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah that's interesting because you guys, you did meet in
the wild, per se, you met in person, so this
guy wasn't a total stranger, and you have kids and
he has kids, so you know, getting them together and
figuring out, you know, if they're going to get along
and stuff. I suppose I've seen a sense enough and
since things went well in your opinion, then it's like, well,
wait a minute, what's going on. Why wouldn't this guy
(02:54):
call me again?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, it was just very strange, Like I felt like
both interactions, like the first and the steid you know,
like you know, hanging out, we're fine, like total you know,
innocent but fine, and you know, there was no awkwardness
at all.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So I'm just I'm kind of stumped of what could
have happened.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Okay, well let's call this guy Patrick. See if we
can get him on the phone. We'll ask these questions
for you. You'll be on the phone, of course, at
the same time. At some point you're welcome to jump
in after we get you some phone. And the hope
is always is that we can figure out what happened
or what's going on. Set you guys up on another
date and we'll pay for this. All right, Let's find
I was going on for too of waiting by the
phone right after Lola Young back in two minutes. Stay
(03:33):
right here at commercial days, the Fred Show on the
radio and the iHeart app check in live and then
anytime get caught up and make us a preset starts
for the Freend' show on demand. Hey Abby, Hello, Hi Abby,
Let's call Patrick. You guys met at the Saint Patrick's party.
You talked for a long time. You thought it went
really well. You bonded over the fact that you both
are single parents and you have kids, and so you
decided collectively to get together at a park or a
(03:57):
playground or whatever with the kids. And it wasn't really
a day per se, but you know, the kids got
to meet each other and you guys got to talk
some morning and you thought everything went really well, except
you have not heard from Patrick since then, and you
want to know why exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So I'm just kind of racking my brain.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
What's happening? So I don't know, Like at this point,
I need some help. I need some intervention.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Look at mom multitasking over there. I got the kids
in the background still try to figure out. Yeah, you know,
I mean you got needs. G I understand. Let's call
this guy now, Good luck, Abby.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Hello? Hi is this Patrick? Yes? This is Ease, Hey Patrick,
good morning. My name is Fred.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I'm calling for the Fred's Show, the Morning radio show,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now, and I would need your permission
to continue with the call. Is uh is it cooefully
talk for just a second.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's fine.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Okay, Well, thank you for calling on behalf of a
many reached out to us. Her name is Abby. I
guess you guys met at at a party recently and
went on a date. I guess it was kind of
more of like a like an outing with your kids.
Do you remember this woman?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah, yeah, I remember Abby.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, Okay, So what happened because she we just talked
to her a second ago, and she was talking about
how she met you at the party and you guys
bonded over being parents and and you know, she thought
everything went great. You guys apparently decided to meet up
with your kids, and she hasn't heard from you since.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So what what happened?
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah, I was I was going to take my
son out to a park and just called her up
to see if she wanted to join. You know, nothing serious,
but yeah, we met up. She's she was great, you know,
I mean, she's really fun to be around. Honestly, her
her two kids were just Paris was kind of my opinion.
(05:52):
Her kids, Yeah, well just in the in the way
that they terrorized my son, and I guess me. I
do want to say though, you know, I'm a dad,
I'm a single dad. I understand how kids can be.
But her, her two kids were just next level. I
mean they they spent most of the afternoon just double
(06:14):
teaming on my son, taking his toys, pushing him. One
of her daughters sneezed at one point, you know, I said,
God bless you, and she just made a bee line
straight for me and wiped her nose and just wiped
it all over my jeans.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You know, we kind of laughed, but.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I was thinking, this is this is really out of line,
and so I tried to get him to play some games.
They just didn't want to listen to me. One of
them just straight up told me I was ugly and
then just off running like.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Okay, I mean that.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
That hurts the ego a little bit, and I'm like,
all right, whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But you know the worst part of it.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
They they're biers. Both of her kids bite like, one
of them literally bit me. I don't know if you've
ever been bit by a kid, but that hurts.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I'm sorry to laugh, but I mean, okay, So yeah,
Robin germs on you. They're biting you, they're calling you ugly,
they're roasting you. And what is during all of this,
Like what what is she just watching this and laughing?
Is she enabling it?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Is she? Is she trying to correct them? I mean,
what's happening?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
What is her? Well, no, she wasn't trying to correct them.
I don't know that she was enabling other than just
not stepping in, but it just seemed like they ran
the show. I could tell that there's probably no consequences
at home, you know, if they get in trouble. It
just felt like they were in charge. So I don't know,
it was.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It was just a lot for me for an afternoon.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
She never really told them to stop, and I didn't
really feel like it was my place to do that.
So I thought, I'll just remove myself from the situation
after this afternoon, we can kind of be done with it.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, I didn't like that much either, But let me
bring Abby in. I forgot you mentioned that Abby is here. Abby,
you didn't You didn't say was that your kids were
biting this man?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Okay, so my two year old guys, Like we are
working on it. I old her to apologize. Like, first
of all, Terris is like really extreme and like I
really don't like that word, especially associated with my children.
So I really hate that. Like that's just for me,
Like if he's turned off by me, that's fine. Like
(08:18):
him using that word to describe my children, that's a
huge turnoff by for him, like for me towards him.
They are not. They obviously were like a little more
on the excited side, obviously to like meet new people,
meet a new kids. Like they weren't ganging up on
his son I did try to interject, there's just so
much like it's hard to be a single parent, like
(08:40):
you know, like it's kind of hard since he like
I divoted some issues like with my act, like I
don't have much of support from my child's father, so
it's me doing it all. So it's like really hard
that he's like blasting me as a mother. It's just
very hurtful because I was trying so like he's kind
of going to the stream that I did nothing.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, I mean my mom, my sister, and I were
raised by my mom primarily and she was a single
parent for a while, And I commiserate with what you're saying.
I think, though you know your kids can act up.
But just from my perspective, if it were me and
I'm Patrick, I guess what I would have been looking
for is less about what a two year old's doing
(09:21):
and more about maybe what you're doing about it. Because
he certainly couldn't discipline the kids. That would have been
a chance.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
That I'm saying, you're so you're listening to what he's
saying that I didn't discipline my childrend Well, I'm asking
you if okay, I'm not criticiaging you I started the
whole thing out by not criticizing you, but I'm saying
if I but I had already, I had already explained that.
When she did go to bite him, I took her
aside and said, you cannot be doing that, and you
(09:49):
need to apologize.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Is that what happened? Patrick?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Did?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
She did?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
She was Are you not giving her enough credit for
her trying to manage her kids?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Well, no, no, she did step in. I mean, it's
not like she didn't do anything. It's just that I
didn't see necessarily the results coming out of her telling
her kids what to do. I mean, it's not like
they just continue doing it. They would stop, but then
it would they would back up. So and again I
support for her, for single moms, and and I do
(10:19):
apologize for using the word terrorists. That may have been
a little harsh. That's not necessarily what I meant. It
just it was a lot for me and my boy.
We're just not used to that kind of energy. So
it was just a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And that's fine. But like, also, I feel.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Like he's trying to come off at like their boat
says like his son, Yes, his son's behaved, but his
son also like through stand at my daughter's a few
times they were biting the child like by like I said,
only my.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Two year old bit him, and like again.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I disciplined and we're working on it. Like she's too,
so like maybe she got scared, you know, like we're
trying to communicate with her. We're trying to explain that
that's not okay. Times her older sister will get upset
and bite her back, but o, my older daughter does
not bite other people. Like it's a it's a sibling
thing between them that like we're trying to work on.
(11:10):
So the fact that like it's all coming down on me,
it's just like really hard, Like I'm trying my best,
and I know he's trying his best, like I would
never have used that like you knows, feeling that he
didn't disciplined his son enough or that his son was
doing things like I give everybody like I give everybody,
like a great assault. I give everybody, like you know,
(11:30):
I feel for I feel for every single parent out
there trying the best they can.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, we we are not trying to criticize you.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
We are not trying to criticize you at all, but
I think we have to.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Respect his decision to not want to be a part
of that right now. It was a lot for him,
and can you can that right, fine, you can admit.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That totally fine, That is totally fine. I can admit that.
The whole thing is is just like.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Be a man and say, you know what, I feel
like this is not working and like, you know, like
it's better off.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Like that's hold on, hold on just one second. This
is not an indictment on parents as parents as a whole.
And I also understand we're talking about your children and
so understandably you have emotion about this and you should
and that is fair. But that's probably why he chose
not to say anything and just sort of fade away,
(12:18):
because he probably didn't want to have to tell a
woman who he just met, I think your kids were
unruly and then get into this sort of conversation because
I understand why you're defensive. I totally do, But I
also think you need to understand from the other side
that it's a difficult conversation to have with someone when
you're talking about their kids.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, sure, but he didn't even have to bring up
the kids. He could have just said, you know what,
I'm just not.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Feeling the vibe like I think, you know, I'm not
really a relationship, you know what.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Honestly, like just say something like.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Don't leave somebody on red, like just be respectful. Like
I've had to end things. They're not they're uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
They're uncomfortable when you have to tell someone yeah, you know,
like I'm.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Not feeling it, or like you could. There's a respectful
way to end things without ghosting.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That's all I'm saying, Like, I just feel like I
deserved a little bit more respect than that after.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I feel like we really did have a connection.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But that's fine.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I think
that your you know, your your emotion and defensiveness about
this is also fair. But I also think that it's
possible that when we're talking about our own kids and
our own families and our own especially when they're our
own kids, that maybe you're a little blinded by how
that experience may have been for someone else and why
(13:32):
that may not be for them. I also understand the
communication part of this, So look, no one's coming down
on you, no one's criticizing you. It's not for him.
He has that right that is dating but Patrick, I'll
ask the question. I mean, would you like to go
out with her again? Maybe we you know, don't bring
the kids this time, and then slowly work on that
(13:52):
whole thing. Uh you know another time.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
You know, Honestly, had we had this conversation, I may
have understood a little more. We we kind of kept
it pretty surface. But I really dig the fire that
she has, that she's representing standing up for her kids.
I see that she's working on it. I'm I'm absolutely
not opposed to going out again if oh this, I do.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Not see this coming. So you have no problem being
a human Kleenex again.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Well, no, I don't think it's going to be that way.
I think I just have a bit more of an
understanding of what she's going through, and I like her.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Passion, all right.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I mean, look, I'm a little surprised, but Abby, I
I understand where you're coming from. Patrick, I I didn't
expect this. But great, So it'll be an adult date.
You guys will go out again. We'll pay for it,
and then, uh, you know, maybe we'll check in down
the road. But Abby, I appreciate your perspective and I
hope that you can see his and maybe see where
we're coming from as observers, and I hope you guys
(14:54):
have a great date.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I can.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I mean, I appreciate it, and obviously, like maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
We do have some stuff to talk about, so you appreciate,
like Patrick being honest, I can respect the honesty.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Here, so I can. So hopefully, you know, if it
doesn't work, it doesn't work, Like Patrick, you could be
honest with me, we don't have to do this with
the radio. If it doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah you did. You did kind of chew us out
a little bit. So I'm a little afraid of I'm
a little afraid.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Of that we're talking about your kids. I get it.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, I've had a rough go and I do stand up.
So I mean, I really wasn't trying to bite anybody's
head off, but like when you start talking about my
kids and me as a parent, like you know, obviously,
I'm always going to defend what I believe is right.
So it wasn't anything that cans you guys, because we
all we all don't know each other.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, hey, I think he's a little turned on over there.
So that's right.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You guys go up as adults, have a great cent
and we'll pay for it, and we'll check you later, and.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Good luck to both of you. The Entertainer Report and
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