June 20, 2025 • 10 mins
Willow is confused why Jake won't text her back after chatting for a month... Find out why she got ghosted!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Fread Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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to see Kelly Clarkson's return to Las Vegas for her
brand new residency studio Sessions live at the Coliseum at
Caesart's Palace on August first. Texts Hazel to three seven
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
All thanks to the Live Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show.
Hey Willow, good morning, Welcome to the show. How are
you okay? So I just will I like this, don't
just get run into them, you know, like I don't
even need to ask any questions. It's fine. So yeah,
let me just set it up though. You are calling
(00:53):
about a guy named Jake who you met on Instagram. Now, Willow,
what happened after that?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
So he like replied to one of my stories and
so yeah, I replied back, and I thought he was cute,
and he got my number and then we've been.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Like texting every day, and then it even started to
get kind of like hot and heavy, and so we were, Yeah,
we were like ramping up and I to like meet
in person, and I was really excited.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But then, like out of.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Nowhere, one day, he ghosted me. And then I checked
on Instagram and he unfollowed me.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So this dude was a virtual stranger, Like he didn't
you don't know him from anybody. He just saw your
stuff on Instagram. But you never even made it to
the date. So you're you're asking a question like, it's
not like you were ghosted after meeting him. You never
even got to meet him. You had a date plan
and then nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, but we were talking for like almost a month.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah that's wild.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So why would you then all of a sudden, I mean,
I guess that's a question that we're going to try
and get an answered. But why would you spend a
month talking to someone just to ghost them?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I don't Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
All right, Well, Willow, let's we're gonna play a song,
come back in a couple of minutes after the song,
and we're gonna call this guy Jake, see if we
can get him on the phone. We're gonna ask these
questions on your behalf. You'll be on the phone too.
At some point You're welcome to jump in, and the
hope is that we can figure out what's going on.
Maybe he has a good explanation and then set you
up on what would be I guess a first date
and pay for it. All right, Hey, Willow, welcome back.
(02:28):
Let's call this guy Jake. You guys, you met on
Instagram because he commented on one of your stories. He
was a stranger. You wound up following each other and
talking for a month. You talked about a date, but
then the day came and there was no confirmation. Date
never happened, and then you realize he unfollowed you on
top of that, so you're like, wait a minute, why
did I invest a month? Like what happened exactly? All right,
(02:49):
let's call this guy now, figure it out? Good luck Willow? Hello,
Hi is this Jake? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
This is Jake, Hey Jay, good morning. My name is Fred.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I'm calling from the Fred Show, the morning radio show,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now and I would need your permission
to continue with the call. Could which app for just
a second, Would you mind.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I've never done this before. Is this uh every been
on the radio? I mean, is that a yes?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Is that cool? I mean, I'll tell you. I just
needed I just need to say okay, yeah, I guess okay, perfect, Thanks,
we're calling on the That was a yes to me.
We're calling on behalf of a woman, uh that I
guess you met and chatted with on Instagram. Her name
is Willow and you had a date planned. Do you
remember Willow?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm uh, I'm just not that into her.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Uh, I don't know. Oh want to go ahead on
the date with her? Well, how how do we get okay?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Because she called us and told us that that you
initiated contact with her on Instagram, You commented something and
you guys chat it for a month. She said, you
chet it for a month and talked about a date,
and then the date never happened.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Anyone followed her.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So she wants to know why she invested a month
in someone who was only going to ghost her, Like,
what what changed?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I'm sure if I'm'm allowed to talk about this on
the radio, you let me decide.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
If you're allowed, you just do the talking and I'll
do the figuring out about that part.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
All right, I'm gonna all right, I'll try to keep it,
but please Basically, at one point, like during.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't know, steamy.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Conversation, I guess you could say she told me that
she had never reached the.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Final destination of a hookup.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Wow, this conversation got you know, you go from from
commenting on her story to talking about, you know, some
really personal details about intimacy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So she'd never I mean, she's never reached the peak. No, yeah, okay,
she's never had one of those.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Sounds like a challenge to me, Like, I don't know,
why is that the reason why you're not talking to
her anymore? Like that sounds like something that would be like, well,
let me give this a let me give this a whirl.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, I'm just not into that, Like that's the same
like she's I just think she's obviously difficult to please
and she's thirty three.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
That to me, that's a red flag. If I get
thirty three.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
If you've never if that's ever happened, that's about you,
not about the other people I've you know, like there's something,
there's other stuff going on there, and I just I
don't want to I don't want the challenge. I don't
want to Well, I was gonna say that.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Let's say you're right, Jake, Like, let's say this is
some sort of issue about any number of things that
is preventing her from getting there. Let's just say that
play devil's advocate. Like, who's to say that in the
course of you getting to know each other and she,
you know, her becoming comfortable with you and all these things,
who's to say that that you don't figure it out together?
Like it's maybe you're the guy to crack the code.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yeah, I'm just I'm too old to be a teacher,
if that's what it's. It's just like I just think
she sounds it sounds like she's difficult, and I'm just
not into that.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, when you're as open minded and eager and hard
working as you are and dedicated and I you know
that you're the perfect guy for the job, clearly, I mean,
what is it that you want? Like you want the
person just to like it just happens automatically, like they
look at you and there I just want.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Somebody, someone who knows, who knows themselves, who understands, like,
who knows how how they work? How what they like,
we're too old to be trying to figure this out
on it at this stage.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I mean, but who am they right?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Who's to say that that no one's I mean, maybe
no one's ever taken the time to to care enough
let me ask. I mean, Willow's here. I forgot to
mention that Willow is here, So you shared with him?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Willow?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, sorry, but I'm very forgetful you shared with Jake
that you've never reached the peak of performance in an
intimate experience. I'm you know, I'm trying to keep this
a little bit PG, and this dude basically is not
up for the challenge.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Does it sounds to me like you.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Don't want to have to do any work or investigation
or anything, which isn't that part of a new relationship anyway?
I mean, I guess that that can be daunting, but
not everyone's the same. But Willow, I mean, what, you've
been very quiet throughout this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Well, I'm like very embarrassed, and I'm very mad that
that's the reason I like chose to be vulnerable with you,
because like, and that's like why you're deciding to like
judge me and not even like, I mean, we haven't
even been on a date. This is crazy, like like
(07:44):
we to me, it like doesn't make any sense, Like
I've tried and I'm not difficult, but I was just
trying to be vulnerable with you and then now it's
I mean, I can't believe you right now.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Honestly, have you ever had a guy, uh disqualify you
or have an interest in sort of going there with
you when you share this information?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Or is this the first time?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I mean, I don't.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Think I've ever shared this early before, and I guess
I'll never do that again. But this is no I mean, honestly,
I think the problem is most guys don't care one
way or the other if I do or not.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Oh I hate that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, I hate that too. I do think there are
I mean, from my female friends and you guys and whatever.
I mean, I think there are guys out there that
really care, and there are guys that that really don't.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
True.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It sounds like Jake doesn't want to put in the
work though, And I get Jake, I get that it
could be daunting, like if someone tells me it's never happened.
I hear your points, but like I don't know that.
It's the reason why I wouldn't even try if I
like someone.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
It's not that I don't want to put in the work.
I just don't want to put in the work if
it's not going to go anywhere. Like I just like
I'm happy to learn.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, right, everyone's new. All the other guys probably are
to say.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
I mean, like, I think she's probably been faking it,
which is also a big problem.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
For a while, they've been figured it with me, they've
been figured they'd be faking it. I mean, let's let's
not let's like get ourselves here.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
I do think it's important for women to try and
explore their own bodies, if I can say that on
the air, And I'm not like shaming you for not
being able to figure that out yet, but it certainly
is important because we are a little more complicated.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I would say, yeah, I'm sure it helps to know
what you like so that you can communicate that to
your partner. But at the same time, I think if
your partner cared enough, then maybe you could do that together.
And anybody doesn't sound like he wants to do that. Yeah,
so well there's the answer. Like you were vulnerable, you
shared some information that was very honest. I don't think
you shoud feel bad about that. Yeah, Jake's not he's
(09:41):
not down for it.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, I mean I'm not downboard either.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Now yeah, okay, all right, Well, hey Jake, I mean,
you know, I guess no sweat off your back because
you you weren't going to talk to her anymore, and
now she has an answer as to why.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
And I'll send you a link girl, okay, because I'm
like worry, like I want to help her out too.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I'm not incident, but hey, how you going to help?
How you go help Kik? I'd like to hear more
about that. How do you intend to offer your services? Right? Like, hey,
I don't have services for her.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I mean we are a full service operator around here.
We've been known to do a lot of things for
our audience. But like, wow, Keiki, that's very kind of
you to offer to be a tutor.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Surely somebody right out there a products that might send
a link for you know.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Okay, well, you know the ladies will take over from
here and
This is the Fread Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We have your chance to win a trip for two
to see Kelly Clarkson's return to Las Vegas for her
brand new residency studio Sessions live at the Coliseum at
Caesart's Palace on August first. Texts Hazel to three seven
three three seven now for a chance to win two
tickets to the August first show, two nights hotels day
July thirty first to August second at the Flamingo, Las
(00:24):
Vegas and round trip airfare. A confirmation text will be
sent standard message to data rates apply.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
All thanks to the Live Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show.
Hey Willow, good morning, Welcome to the show. How are
you okay? So I just will I like this, don't
just get run into them, you know, like I don't
even need to ask any questions. It's fine. So yeah,
let me just set it up though. You are calling
(00:53):
about a guy named Jake who you met on Instagram. Now, Willow,
what happened after that?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
So he like replied to one of my stories and
so yeah, I replied back, and I thought he was cute,
and he got my number and then we've been.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Like texting every day, and then it even started to
get kind of like hot and heavy, and so we were, Yeah,
we were like ramping up and I to like meet
in person, and I was really excited.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But then, like out of.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Nowhere, one day, he ghosted me. And then I checked
on Instagram and he unfollowed me.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So this dude was a virtual stranger, Like he didn't
you don't know him from anybody. He just saw your
stuff on Instagram. But you never even made it to
the date. So you're you're asking a question like, it's
not like you were ghosted after meeting him. You never
even got to meet him. You had a date plan
and then nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, but we were talking for like almost a month.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah that's wild.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So why would you then all of a sudden, I mean,
I guess that's a question that we're going to try
and get an answered. But why would you spend a
month talking to someone just to ghost them?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I don't Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
All right, Well, Willow, let's we're gonna play a song,
come back in a couple of minutes after the song,
and we're gonna call this guy Jake, see if we
can get him on the phone. We're gonna ask these
questions on your behalf. You'll be on the phone too.
At some point You're welcome to jump in, and the
hope is that we can figure out what's going on.
Maybe he has a good explanation and then set you
up on what would be I guess a first date
and pay for it. All right, Hey, Willow, welcome back.
(02:28):
Let's call this guy Jake. You guys, you met on
Instagram because he commented on one of your stories. He
was a stranger. You wound up following each other and
talking for a month. You talked about a date, but
then the day came and there was no confirmation. Date
never happened, and then you realize he unfollowed you on
top of that, so you're like, wait a minute, why
did I invest a month? Like what happened exactly? All right,
(02:49):
let's call this guy now, figure it out? Good luck Willow? Hello,
Hi is this Jake? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
This is Jake, Hey Jay, good morning. My name is Fred.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I'm calling from the Fred Show, the morning radio show,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now and I would need your permission
to continue with the call. Could which app for just
a second, Would you mind.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I've never done this before. Is this uh every been
on the radio? I mean, is that a yes?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Is that cool? I mean, I'll tell you. I just
needed I just need to say okay, yeah, I guess okay, perfect, Thanks,
we're calling on the That was a yes to me.
We're calling on behalf of a woman, uh that I
guess you met and chatted with on Instagram. Her name
is Willow and you had a date planned. Do you
remember Willow?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm uh, I'm just not that into her.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Uh, I don't know. Oh want to go ahead on
the date with her? Well, how how do we get okay?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Because she called us and told us that that you
initiated contact with her on Instagram, You commented something and
you guys chat it for a month. She said, you
chet it for a month and talked about a date,
and then the date never happened.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Anyone followed her.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So she wants to know why she invested a month
in someone who was only going to ghost her, Like,
what what changed?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I'm sure if I'm'm allowed to talk about this on
the radio, you let me decide.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
If you're allowed, you just do the talking and I'll
do the figuring out about that part.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
All right, I'm gonna all right, I'll try to keep it,
but please Basically, at one point, like during.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't know, steamy.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Conversation, I guess you could say she told me that
she had never reached the.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Final destination of a hookup.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Wow, this conversation got you know, you go from from
commenting on her story to talking about, you know, some
really personal details about intimacy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So she'd never I mean, she's never reached the peak. No, yeah, okay,
she's never had one of those.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Sounds like a challenge to me, Like, I don't know,
why is that the reason why you're not talking to
her anymore? Like that sounds like something that would be like, well,
let me give this a let me give this a whirl.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, I'm just not into that, Like that's the same
like she's I just think she's obviously difficult to please
and she's thirty three.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
That to me, that's a red flag. If I get
thirty three.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
If you've never if that's ever happened, that's about you,
not about the other people I've you know, like there's something,
there's other stuff going on there, and I just I
don't want to I don't want the challenge. I don't
want to Well, I was gonna say that.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Let's say you're right, Jake, Like, let's say this is
some sort of issue about any number of things that
is preventing her from getting there. Let's just say that
play devil's advocate. Like, who's to say that in the
course of you getting to know each other and she,
you know, her becoming comfortable with you and all these things,
who's to say that that you don't figure it out together?
Like it's maybe you're the guy to crack the code.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yeah, I'm just I'm too old to be a teacher,
if that's what it's. It's just like I just think
she sounds it sounds like she's difficult, and I'm just
not into that.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, when you're as open minded and eager and hard
working as you are and dedicated and I you know
that you're the perfect guy for the job, clearly, I mean,
what is it that you want? Like you want the
person just to like it just happens automatically, like they
look at you and there I just want.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Somebody, someone who knows, who knows themselves, who understands, like,
who knows how how they work? How what they like,
we're too old to be trying to figure this out
on it at this stage.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I mean, but who am they right?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Who's to say that that no one's I mean, maybe
no one's ever taken the time to to care enough
let me ask. I mean, Willow's here. I forgot to
mention that Willow is here, So you shared with him?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Willow?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, sorry, but I'm very forgetful you shared with Jake
that you've never reached the peak of performance in an
intimate experience. I'm you know, I'm trying to keep this
a little bit PG, and this dude basically is not
up for the challenge.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Does it sounds to me like you.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Don't want to have to do any work or investigation
or anything, which isn't that part of a new relationship anyway?
I mean, I guess that that can be daunting, but
not everyone's the same. But Willow, I mean, what, you've
been very quiet throughout this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Well, I'm like very embarrassed, and I'm very mad that
that's the reason I like chose to be vulnerable with you,
because like, and that's like why you're deciding to like
judge me and not even like, I mean, we haven't
even been on a date. This is crazy, like like
(07:44):
we to me, it like doesn't make any sense, Like
I've tried and I'm not difficult, but I was just
trying to be vulnerable with you and then now it's
I mean, I can't believe you right now.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Honestly, have you ever had a guy, uh disqualify you
or have an interest in sort of going there with
you when you share this information?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Or is this the first time?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I mean, I don't.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Think I've ever shared this early before, and I guess
I'll never do that again. But this is no I mean, honestly,
I think the problem is most guys don't care one
way or the other if I do or not.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Oh I hate that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, I hate that too. I do think there are
I mean, from my female friends and you guys and whatever.
I mean, I think there are guys out there that
really care, and there are guys that that really don't.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
True.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It sounds like Jake doesn't want to put in the
work though, And I get Jake, I get that it
could be daunting, like if someone tells me it's never happened.
I hear your points, but like I don't know that.
It's the reason why I wouldn't even try if I
like someone.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
It's not that I don't want to put in the work.
I just don't want to put in the work if
it's not going to go anywhere. Like I just like
I'm happy to learn.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, right, everyone's new. All the other guys probably are
to say.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
I mean, like, I think she's probably been faking it,
which is also a big problem.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
For a while, they've been figured it with me, they've
been figured they'd be faking it. I mean, let's let's
not let's like get ourselves here.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
I do think it's important for women to try and
explore their own bodies, if I can say that on
the air, And I'm not like shaming you for not
being able to figure that out yet, but it certainly
is important because we are a little more complicated.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I would say, yeah, I'm sure it helps to know
what you like so that you can communicate that to
your partner. But at the same time, I think if
your partner cared enough, then maybe you could do that together.
And anybody doesn't sound like he wants to do that. Yeah,
so well there's the answer. Like you were vulnerable, you
shared some information that was very honest. I don't think
you shoud feel bad about that. Yeah, Jake's not he's
(09:41):
not down for it.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, I mean I'm not downboard either.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Now yeah, okay, all right, Well, hey Jake, I mean,
you know, I guess no sweat off your back because
you you weren't going to talk to her anymore, and
now she has an answer as to why.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
And I'll send you a link girl, okay, because I'm
like worry, like I want to help her out too.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I'm not incident, but hey, how you going to help?
How you go help Kik? I'd like to hear more
about that. How do you intend to offer your services? Right? Like, hey,
I don't have services for her.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I mean we are a full service operator around here.
We've been known to do a lot of things for
our audience. But like, wow, Keiki, that's very kind of
you to offer to be a tutor.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Surely somebody right out there a products that might send
a link for you know.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Okay, well, you know the ladies will take over from
here and
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