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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show.
Hey Sean, good morning, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, thanks for having me guys.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
So what's going on with this woman? Minca? That's not
I made me here very often, Minka, So what how
did you meet? Tell us about any dates that you've
been on, and then what's going on now?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Well, we haven't been on any dates yet, that's the problem.
But we met at the club and we danced all
night together, and she was super hot, and I just
I thought, you know, sparks were flying and everything, and
you know, we started texting because we exchanged numbers at
the club, and we were planning our dates and whatnot,
and we were getting really excited. And then all of
(00:40):
a sudden, she just stopped like she was ghosted me,
and just like, well, what's going on here?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
That guys was electric on the dance floor Dan all night. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I just that's the visual in my head is I
don't know, like you doing the I don't know a
grease dances. I know what it is like the dance
floor had like different colors and I don't know why
this is my visual of Sean right now. Yeah, and
then Minka like their eyes met from across.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
The room, and then it was choreography.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, you know they knew it exactly. Yeah, yeah, they
just they knew how to dance. They knew how to
move each other's bodies.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, I mean you guys, you guys know like you
know the fishing move, you know where she's accosted dancing.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
You know, if you did that and she still gave
you her number, then you must you must be a
very good looking man or something. I'm not very charismatic,
but so is this woman. She gave you her number,
but yet she's not responding to you, and so you
want to know why.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, I mean, she was responding to me at first.
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's like, well, are we gonna get drinks? Or are
we gonna go out to dinner? Are we gonna, you know,
do dinner? In a mood like what are we gonna do?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And then all of a sudden, like two or three
texts in, she's just like.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Dead radio stylence and she disappears. Okay, so let's see
if we can get her on the phone. We're gonna
call Minca. You'll be on the phone as well, try
and get some info for you at some point, you're
welcome to jump in and you know, hopefully we can
straighten this out and set you guys up on another
date that we pay for. All right, let's see what
happens next. Part two of Waiting by the Phone after
this song on the Fred Show. Good morning, It's the
(02:14):
Freend Show. Part two of Waiting by the Phone. Hey Sean, Yeah,
all right, welcome back. Let's call Minka. You guys met
at the club and I don't know, you can sort
of vibed in the club and you were dancing, having
a great time. She gave you her number. You texted
her a couple of times. There was a dialogue, but
then it stopped completely. And you want to know why.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, because I didn't do anything wrong at the club
and I thought, I thought, you know, it was it
was going.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
To go somewhere.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Okay, all right, so let's see if we can figure
out what's up. Good luck, Sean, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Hello.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Hi is this Minca? Yes it is hi Minca. Good morning.
My name is Fred. I'm calling for the Fred Show.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's a radio program, and I have to tell you
that we are on the radio right now and I
would need your permission to continue.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Is that okay if we chat for just a second
on the air. Yeah, sure, Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'm not sure if you've heard this before, but it's
it's called waiting by the phone, and we're trying to
figure out why you're not responding to a guy named
Sean who says he meant you at a I had
a club and you gave him your number and I
guess you texted briefly, but then you stopped.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah, okay, I remember him right.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So when he reached out to us and he was
I guess super into you and was hoping that it
would go somewhere, and it says it's not, so what happened?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Why aren't you texted him back?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I don't, you know, It's just like didn't work out.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
It just didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So what does that mean though, because well we got
to tell him why it didn't work out, or that's
what we're trying to do is offer him some closer.
I mean, how does it go from here's my number,
you know, we hung out all night to now I
don't want to talk to you anymore.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
I mean I just I you know, I figured something
out about him, and that it just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It just didn't really vibe.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
With, well, now what I'm going for. You cannot just
leave it there. What did you find out about him?
We're all on the edge of our seats.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
I mean, okay, well I just I found so my
my best friend was on Grinder, which.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
If you know Grinder, it's for gay men, and.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Sean had a profile on there and it was like
the same photos, name, age, everything, like it was him.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
And I totally respect that, and you know, I love
that for him, but I don't need to be I
don't think that.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I'm what he's looking for.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So what's sadill Like, you showed your friend the picture
of him, like I don't know his Instagram or something,
and then she's like, wait.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
A minute, Yes, I was kind of excited, yeah, and
I was like yeah, and I was like, look at
the guy a ed and he was like, oh, I
he looks really familiar. And they had actually like been.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Chattied on on the Grinder.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Interesting, So let me just bring Sean here. I'm sorry,
mank I forgot to mention that Sean. I'm so freak
Sean Grinder. Let's tell me tell me more.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Tell I don't know what there is to tell.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Oh, so you're not on Grinder?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I mean I was your profile.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Time, you don't think so you don't think you're on Grinder?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I mean what if ione remember if they were Grinder?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Well I would, yes, I would agree, I would agree.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't think I accidentally have ever been on Grinder before.
And so you you are or you are not on Grinder.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I mean, listen, you know, uh, people sleep walk, people
sleep but people's sweeps get on Grinder.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Maybe I did that.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So you're saying you're like you absent mindedly. You created
a full profile on a on a dating app and website.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
That's is an app? Is it just an app or whatever?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You Ye, it's definitely not a dating it's definitely not
a dating app.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It's not how would you know? You know more about
it than I do. Yeah, so it's not okay twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Sorry, and I understand what what dating apps are and
what they aren't.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Oh you do so Grinder? So you are on Grinder,
but it's not a dating app.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
No, it's a hookup app. But oh.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So just to hook up with men. So we've gotten
that far, we're acknowledging that.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I mean, look, I am an opportunist.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I was curious some friends were telling me that, uh,
you know, they had a good time on there, and uh,
you got drunk one night and I know in.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
A profile, is that an issue like gay?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Oh you're not. What's here's the thing? Nobody, nobody cares like.
It's fine, there's yeah, there's no reason.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
For she cares. You parment that making you care.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I mean, I'm happy for you, Sean, but.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I don't need to be part of your journey.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
It's it's cramy, we have to go.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Grinder has nothing to do with you.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And right, okay, you're saying.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Are you saying you have to hate for the bisexual forty?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Is that what's going on?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
We're clearly coming out now is bisexual, which is wonderful, but.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Everyone everyone runs the spectrum. They had tons of movies
about it.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Right, Nobody is fully gay, nobody is fully straight.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
But like, are you tru dag chappelling me? Right now?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's not that, oh boy, Sean, I'm not Yeah, I
don't mean to interrupt you.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I mean, I'm sorry. Here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The problem is not that you may or may not
be bisexual or whatever. Nobody cares and no one's judging
you for that, do you The problem is that we
went in the last four minutes from you're not on grinder.
You might be on grinder to you are, but you're
not dating to you are, but you're just hooking up
to you are, but you're by curious. That's where we've
gone in the last in the.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Last couple of minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I think maybe that's your problem, is that she's not
really interested in investing in a new relationship when you
might be trying to figure out you know, a lot
of other things.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Right, Yeah, I'm paying, I'm maintained monogamy.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Right, so if i'm if I'm in a relationship, I'll
be in a relationship with a woman and not you know,
messed around or whatever.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
You are there any kind of respect for people.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Maybe I'm just gonna say I will not be going
out with him again.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
There will be no second date on your journey. But Sean,
you got to understand journey journey.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You're not dependent John.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's not personally.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
If you're on a public forum, you have to understand
that we're not trying to expose you. You know this
is we're asking questions and you're it's not a secret.
Your picture is on Grinder and you put it there allegedly.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I mean, I didn't put it there, but that's neither
here nor there.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
What is going on? I think I think grinder's his
main one and he stumbled onto Hinge or whatever. You
know what I'm saying, he's got this reversed who knows
what his main his side when he into it, he's
not the dance floor, Like, what is just going.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You do understand, Sean? The problem is that you haven't
told the same story twice.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
So that's what I need to do.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I need to start telling stories that are the same.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Probably, Yeah, well the truth would be great, all.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Right, all right, I appreciate that. I appreciate that constructive.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Critically is your name even, Sean? Like we do it
all right?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Look, so she's not interested, that's the bottom line, Sean. Look,
I wish you the best of luck, honestly, whatever it is,
and we support you fully and and you know Mink
is looking for something else, so it's not going to
work out, guys, good luck.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I feel like she's just a little bit intolerant.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Oh, now, she's intolerant of the thing that doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I mean, there's multiple realities, there's multiple dimensions.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Which one are we in right now?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
None of us know. Right it's not a Marvel movie.
This is not a multiverse over here. What are you
talking about, bro,
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show.
Hey Sean, good morning, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, thanks for having me guys.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
So what's going on with this woman? Minca? That's not
I made me here very often, Minka, So what how
did you meet? Tell us about any dates that you've
been on, and then what's going on now?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Well, we haven't been on any dates yet, that's the problem.
But we met at the club and we danced all
night together, and she was super hot, and I just
I thought, you know, sparks were flying and everything, and
you know, we started texting because we exchanged numbers at
the club, and we were planning our dates and whatnot,
and we were getting really excited. And then all of
(00:40):
a sudden, she just stopped like she was ghosted me,
and just like, well, what's going on here?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
That guys was electric on the dance floor Dan all night. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I just that's the visual in my head is I
don't know, like you doing the I don't know a
grease dances. I know what it is like the dance
floor had like different colors and I don't know why
this is my visual of Sean right now. Yeah, and
then Minka like their eyes met from across.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
The room, and then it was choreography.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, you know they knew it exactly. Yeah, yeah, they
just they knew how to dance. They knew how to
move each other's bodies.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, I mean you guys, you guys know like you
know the fishing move, you know where she's accosted dancing.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
You know, if you did that and she still gave
you her number, then you must you must be a
very good looking man or something. I'm not very charismatic,
but so is this woman. She gave you her number,
but yet she's not responding to you, and so you
want to know why.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, I mean, she was responding to me at first.
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's like, well, are we gonna get drinks? Or are
we gonna go out to dinner? Are we gonna, you know,
do dinner? In a mood like what are we gonna do?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And then all of a sudden, like two or three
texts in, she's just like.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Dead radio stylence and she disappears. Okay, so let's see
if we can get her on the phone. We're gonna
call Minca. You'll be on the phone as well, try
and get some info for you at some point, you're
welcome to jump in and you know, hopefully we can
straighten this out and set you guys up on another
date that we pay for. All right, let's see what
happens next. Part two of Waiting by the Phone after
this song on the Fred Show. Good morning, It's the
(02:14):
Freend Show. Part two of Waiting by the Phone. Hey Sean, Yeah,
all right, welcome back. Let's call Minka. You guys met
at the club and I don't know, you can sort
of vibed in the club and you were dancing, having
a great time. She gave you her number. You texted
her a couple of times. There was a dialogue, but
then it stopped completely. And you want to know why.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, because I didn't do anything wrong at the club
and I thought, I thought, you know, it was it
was going.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
To go somewhere.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Okay, all right, so let's see if we can figure
out what's up. Good luck, Sean, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Hello.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Hi is this Minca? Yes it is hi Minca. Good morning.
My name is Fred. I'm calling for the Fred Show.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's a radio program, and I have to tell you
that we are on the radio right now and I
would need your permission to continue.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Is that okay if we chat for just a second
on the air. Yeah, sure, Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'm not sure if you've heard this before, but it's
it's called waiting by the phone, and we're trying to
figure out why you're not responding to a guy named
Sean who says he meant you at a I had
a club and you gave him your number and I
guess you texted briefly, but then you stopped.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah, okay, I remember him right.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So when he reached out to us and he was
I guess super into you and was hoping that it
would go somewhere, and it says it's not, so what happened?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Why aren't you texted him back?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I don't, you know, It's just like didn't work out.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
It just didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So what does that mean though, because well we got
to tell him why it didn't work out, or that's
what we're trying to do is offer him some closer.
I mean, how does it go from here's my number,
you know, we hung out all night to now I
don't want to talk to you anymore.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
I mean I just I you know, I figured something
out about him, and that it just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It just didn't really vibe.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
With, well, now what I'm going for. You cannot just
leave it there. What did you find out about him?
We're all on the edge of our seats.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
I mean, okay, well I just I found so my
my best friend was on Grinder, which.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
If you know Grinder, it's for gay men, and.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Sean had a profile on there and it was like
the same photos, name, age, everything, like it was him.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
And I totally respect that, and you know, I love
that for him, but I don't need to be I
don't think that.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I'm what he's looking for.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So what's sadill Like, you showed your friend the picture
of him, like I don't know his Instagram or something,
and then she's like, wait.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
A minute, Yes, I was kind of excited, yeah, and
I was like yeah, and I was like, look at
the guy a ed and he was like, oh, I
he looks really familiar. And they had actually like been.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Chattied on on the Grinder.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Interesting, So let me just bring Sean here. I'm sorry,
mank I forgot to mention that Sean. I'm so freak
Sean Grinder. Let's tell me tell me more.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Tell I don't know what there is to tell.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Oh, so you're not on Grinder?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I mean I was your profile.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Time, you don't think so you don't think you're on Grinder?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I mean what if ione remember if they were Grinder?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Well I would, yes, I would agree, I would agree.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't think I accidentally have ever been on Grinder before.
And so you you are or you are not on Grinder.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I mean, listen, you know, uh, people sleep walk, people
sleep but people's sweeps get on Grinder.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Maybe I did that.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So you're saying you're like you absent mindedly. You created
a full profile on a on a dating app and website.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
That's is an app? Is it just an app or whatever?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You Ye, it's definitely not a dating it's definitely not
a dating app.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It's not how would you know? You know more about
it than I do. Yeah, so it's not okay twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Sorry, and I understand what what dating apps are and
what they aren't.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Oh you do so Grinder? So you are on Grinder,
but it's not a dating app.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
No, it's a hookup app. But oh.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So just to hook up with men. So we've gotten
that far, we're acknowledging that.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I mean, look, I am an opportunist.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I was curious some friends were telling me that, uh,
you know, they had a good time on there, and uh,
you got drunk one night and I know in.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
A profile, is that an issue like gay?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Oh you're not. What's here's the thing? Nobody, nobody cares like.
It's fine, there's yeah, there's no reason.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
For she cares. You parment that making you care.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I mean, I'm happy for you, Sean, but.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I don't need to be part of your journey.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
It's it's cramy, we have to go.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Grinder has nothing to do with you.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And right, okay, you're saying.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Are you saying you have to hate for the bisexual forty?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Is that what's going on?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
We're clearly coming out now is bisexual, which is wonderful, but.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Everyone everyone runs the spectrum. They had tons of movies
about it.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Right, Nobody is fully gay, nobody is fully straight.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
But like, are you tru dag chappelling me? Right now?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's not that, oh boy, Sean, I'm not Yeah, I
don't mean to interrupt you.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I mean, I'm sorry. Here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The problem is not that you may or may not
be bisexual or whatever. Nobody cares and no one's judging
you for that, do you The problem is that we
went in the last four minutes from you're not on grinder.
You might be on grinder to you are, but you're
not dating to you are, but you're just hooking up
to you are, but you're by curious. That's where we've
gone in the last in the.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Last couple of minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I think maybe that's your problem, is that she's not
really interested in investing in a new relationship when you
might be trying to figure out you know, a lot
of other things.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Right, Yeah, I'm paying, I'm maintained monogamy.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Right, so if i'm if I'm in a relationship, I'll
be in a relationship with a woman and not you know,
messed around or whatever.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
You are there any kind of respect for people.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Maybe I'm just gonna say I will not be going
out with him again.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
There will be no second date on your journey. But Sean,
you got to understand journey journey.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You're not dependent John.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's not personally.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
If you're on a public forum, you have to understand
that we're not trying to expose you. You know this
is we're asking questions and you're it's not a secret.
Your picture is on Grinder and you put it there allegedly.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I mean, I didn't put it there, but that's neither
here nor there.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
What is going on? I think I think grinder's his
main one and he stumbled onto Hinge or whatever. You
know what I'm saying, he's got this reversed who knows
what his main his side when he into it, he's
not the dance floor, Like, what is just going.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You do understand, Sean? The problem is that you haven't
told the same story twice.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
So that's what I need to do.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I need to start telling stories that are the same.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Probably, Yeah, well the truth would be great, all.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Right, all right, I appreciate that. I appreciate that constructive.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Critically is your name even, Sean? Like we do it
all right?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Look, so she's not interested, that's the bottom line, Sean. Look,
I wish you the best of luck, honestly, whatever it is,
and we support you fully and and you know Mink
is looking for something else, so it's not going to
work out, guys, good luck.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I feel like she's just a little bit intolerant.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Oh, now, she's intolerant of the thing that doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I mean, there's multiple realities, there's multiple dimensions.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Which one are we in right now?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
None of us know. Right it's not a Marvel movie.
This is not a multiverse over here. What are you
talking about, bro,
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