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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I've ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Show. Hey vilec, good morning, Welcome to the show.
How are you all right?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
We're doing okay? What's going on with this guy? Luke?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Tell us how you met? About any dates that you've
been on, and then where things are now?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
So I met him on an app and things were
going really well. We were talking for like two weeks,
like non stop, you know, day in, day out, good
morning to night, all that, and it was really exciting.
And so then we met up and it went really
well and I really liked him, and then nothing. I
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never heard from him again, and I have no idea
what happened.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Okay, all right?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So yeah, so the texting, the pen pal thing is
weird because people get into that. I know, I've done
it on a dating apps. You get into kind of
the pal mode, and then you never really actually meet
or it takes a long time. It's like are we
I guess there's two schools of thought. You either try
and get to know somebody or you're like, let's get
to it right now. Otherwise you get lost in the shuffle.
So you guys chat it for a little while, and
it got it got kind of flirty and intimated in
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some ways, you.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Know, good morning and good night and all of that.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And then you finally go on this date that you
thought was great, but you've reached out to him. Since then,
all of that has stopped.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I take it. No more good morning, no more any
of that.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It's completely like radio silence, totally ghosted, which has never
happened to me before. And you see why people get
so mad about it, because it's like, I'm just left wondering.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You know, when you talk to someone and like you
start sharing about yourself and opening up, and then it's
just like okay.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Cool, like all this buildings bye, and then this person
disappears after you meet You're like, what the hell what happened?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, so I really don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Okay, we call him right now. Good luck, Violet. Hi
is this Luke?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yep? This is Luke. Hey Luke, good morning. My name
is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning
radio Show. The whole crew is here, and I do
have to tell you that we are on the radio
right now and I would need your permission to continue
with the call.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Can we chat for just a second on the air. Okay, yeah, sure,
thank you very much for calling on.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Behalf of a woman who says she met you on
the apps and you guys recently went out. Her name
is Violet. Do you remember chatting with and meeting Violet?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah? Okay, So what's the laugh about? Because I'll tell
you what we know.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
She reached out to us and said that she she
met you on the apps and that you guys would
chatted for a while and the chemistry was kind of building,
and then you guys went out recently, and then since
then it's been radio silence. You haven't responded, you haven't
reached out, and then there's kind of like this giggle
when I ask about it, or laugh or whatever, exasperation
or whatever it is. So what happened? Why are you
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not calling her or responding to her anymore?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Because she's a little tease.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
That woman's bogus, man, she's a tease and she's bogus.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Why Well, she led me on. We matched and and
things literally just continued.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
To escalate in a beautiful, you know direction towards dating,
and we you know, started texting, We changed numbers, we
got super flirty, and then one morning, to my surprise,
you know, the sex thing turned into a nude and
I was like, dang, yeah it was hot.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Okay, So there was a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
See what she didn't mention was that the two weeks
of texting before you met that there was sexual texting.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Sexting is what the kids call.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
It, right, A lot of implications for what happened when
we met, you know, and so I obviously couldn't wait
to meet up.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And then we went on this date.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And at this point, you've seen a picture of her
naked before you even go on the date, so you're thinking, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, we were already at the end before we started.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
So I mean I was like, okay, so all that's off,
let's let's party.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
So why Tonner's right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So yeah, So you're going into this date, as I
think a lot of people might, assuming that it's going
to be physical, because that's already sort of been the
table has been set, per se, right.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Very established.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
But we're like, well, yeah, I have all the green lights.
So I'm like, okay, well, clearly this is the direction
the date's going in because.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
We've already kind of.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Quotes signed off on it. So I tried to be affectionate.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
During the date and literally, you know, at the end
of the date, went in for the kiss and she
shut me down. And I was like, what, Like, okay,
so you just send someone a nude.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So you're angry because she's sexed with you and sent
you a nude, But then in person, she sort of
reserved the right to be physical with you the first
time that you ever met. I mean, I can see
why you had those expectations, but a person always has
a right to say no. And you know, people do
talk big before they meet, and then when they meet,
you know, maybe either they need more time or the
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chemistry isn't what they expected.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
But like she owes you nothing. You do realize that.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Yeah, but she, I mean she led me on. Like
it just seems so hot and cold, like.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
A different person.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
It's like all that work that we put into where
we were going didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Like I was like, was is this the person I
was texting with?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, let me bring Violet in. I forgot to mention
that Violet is here. So Violet, you didn't tell us
about the nature of the conversation, which doesn't really matter.
I mean, I can see why you know, somebody may
be excited about the potential, but then in person what
you just wanted to you wanted to take it a
little bit more slowly once you actually met him.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Well, first of all, I want to say that absolutely,
I reserve the right to be able to say yes
or no to getting physical with someone that I just met.
And second of all, sending a sexy picture of myself
does not in any world in plots that you are
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automatically going to, you know, get lucky the first time
that I meet you, Like, I I'm sorry that's what
you thought. But also I think that that's pretty presumptuous
to be honest, like, and it wasn't even like it
was more like a teasing kind of thing. That doesn't
mean that I am a teased as a person.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That means that I was, you know.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
Like.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And by the way, I've taken two law school classes total,
and I can say that a picture does not constitute
a contract. I can actually say that fairly, fairly, with
a lot of certainty. Kiky, I can tell you've got
something to say, like it's run on the tip of
your tongue.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
Because I'm so conflicted, Like I want to ride for
my girl, because you don't owe a man anything, right,
it's side to give it up. But Sis, you just
out here snapchat and you can't to everybody, right like
you never met that man.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
He didn't buy you a business. She didn't say everybody.
But you can't.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You can't send that nuty picture and say like nothing,
nothing's on the table.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
You know what I'm saying. You absolutely can. You can.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You can talk and communicate and express yourself sexually. And
and that does not mean that this man is owed
or a woman or whomever.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Is owed anything.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Again, I can see why the expectation was set, but
expectations can be broken. And again, I think people they
can talk a real big game until you look at
somebody in the eye, and then I don't know, maybe
you become a little.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Bit more shy or a little bit more reserved.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You need more time, So you could be disappointed, Luke,
I think, But you can't fault her for not giving
it up.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
I think this is so opposite.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
What is anything I've ever experienced?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Literally, like you text, all of a sudden, we're naked,
all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
You're at the door, and that's that was the green light?
Speaker 6 (07:53):
That's like that is the natural progression, like at least
like be flirting, lead your clothes on.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
But you were saying earlier like oh oh yeah, you
were thinking you're gonna get lucky. I already got lucky.
I'm already at the end, so it's not like, oh,
I have to.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Be lucky a photograph. Well, and by the way, you
do this every day. When he said, you said, big
tim a message, I'm gonna come home and put it
on you, and then you just come home with you
the sandwich.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
Like that happens a lot of times in relationships. You
talk a good game when you're not around each other,
and then you walk the wall and he's like, you
know what about everything you said in the text, like start.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Get away, I've done that, I've built up a day before.
And then we go to dinner and we eat like
you know, the prime rib or whatever, and it's like, okay, yeah, no,
it's it's solid choice if they have it, you know,
and yeah, and then that's what I'm meaning, not every night.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
They don't have it every night.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So let's say let's say it was going to be
a total marathon session. I walk into the Golden Corral
and they got that. They got the prim rib right there. Okay,
well the machine, yeah, forget it. The plans are being
they're being post Paul, you know, by a day or two,
you know what I mean, I reserve the right to
say I need my pace after a meal like that,
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you know, I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Violent, you know, you know, you know, I just got.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
To say, like I well, okay, yes, I sent a
picture of myself. And you know, we had we were
having all these conversations, but also like Luke, like it's
not like you were the same person exactly that I
felt that I was talking to. He was, you know,
like all the whity banter and put comebacks and you know,
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really intelligent conversation kind of fell a little bit during
that during the meeting, and so I to some degree
was also feeling like, you know, like, m maybe maybe
this isn't.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Exactly what I thought it was going to be, Like.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I didn't really feel it.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Ways I was.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Feeling it in our conversations, and so now you know,
here I am kind of feeling like, Okay, let's you know,
let's let's give this another shot. Let's give us another date.
And so I was going, I was I had more
I absolutely had the intention of seeing him again and
being you know, maybe this is just aclude. Maybe he
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was just nervous or something, because I was nervous really hot, right, But.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You see, Luke, you're putting it all on her. I
mean you didn't exactly show up yourself. I mean you
it's almost like you walked in knowing you got it already.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I mean basically you said you were just waiting for it.
You said that already. Yes, you didn't even.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Try, because it's like, well, I got I got this already,
but you still gotta try.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, but you didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
She said, I just feel like we didn't try.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
He didn't try.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Okay, Look, I just was so confused by the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
It's just everybody reserves the right to change their mind
or to say, hey, let's slow this down or talk
is cheap. But look, I will ask the question. Maybe
this is a misunderstanding. He had, you know, expectations that
weren't fair, that you weren't prepared to meet in the moment,
he wasn't exactly what you thought. Will you guys go
out again? Would you like to try one more time?
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See if it goes better the second time?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And also Ruvi, I was wondering if you could stand
over a transcript of your texting with one another, because
we would just like to see sort of journalistic purpose,
journalistic purposes, Kik, you'd like to go through it and
just make sure that you.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Know that I feel like you can. You can figure
it out. You know what was said between us, you
know at anything that was unusual And honestly, no, I
don't think that I'm interested. I really want to be
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with someone that's going to be a little bit more
transparent in the second that something is misunderstood, I'd like
to actually have a conversation about it and not just
be ghosted.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I want to be that someone doesn't want eighty I
don't want to, like definitely what's happening. And then it's
like psych jokes.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah, okay, don't.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Pull the rug out from underneath me.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You know, you know what, you can keep your mailfective
all to your.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
No beds and covered rug. Oh my god, Okay, she might.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Have hard I was gonna say, it doesn't it doesn't
really matter what the state of the flores was because
he didn't get to walk on him so barefoot socks
not it doesn't matter. That's not happening.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Well I'm starving this right now because we'll play this
game for seven years. All right, guys, look, it's not
gonna work out.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I'm sorry. It's not a match. Best to look to
both of you.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Okay, yeah, thank you so much