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May 9, 2025 12 mins

Is there such thing as TOO much transparency?!

 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Never been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Hey, Nick,
good morning, welcome to the program. Hey, good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Wow, Nick, you already sound distrust It's We've said this before,
but it's always wild to me. We we check in
with people and they're I'm like, you know, you think
you're being ghosted. So you call the show and I'm like, hey,
how you doing, And they're like, I'm great, but Nick
doesn't sound great.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
No?

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, I appreciate having me on, but it's Uh. So
I went on a date with this girl that I
had been on Hinge and I invited out to dinner
and she, I mean, she was like perfect, and when
I met her in person, she was even like way
hotter than I had seen online, which was you know,

(00:48):
which is She's great, but it made me really nervous
and I really want to see her again. I thought,
I thought the dinner went great, but uh, she's She's
never called me back, okay, and she won't respond to
I text either or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
I mean that's exciting when when you're looking forward to
meeting someone because you're attracted to them on the app,
and let's face it, I said the apps are all
about it's all about hot or not until you meet
in person and then you got to engage the chemistry.
But then you show up to this date and she's
hotter than you already thought she was. Yeah, like, how
am we to make this worse? I don't mean to
rub this. I really you're being ghosted, asn't up said,

(01:21):
but I don't. I don't mean to, you know, but
but I mean, you know, sometimes it goes the other way.
We've heard that before too, where like the pictures are
old or you know, they've been aditated or whatever. So
you show up and she's everything you wanted her to
be and more, and you were excited about where this
was going, except you haven't heard from her, and you
assume you've reached out since the day tried to plan

(01:42):
another one. She's not responding Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
Well look, let's see if we can figure this out.
We're gonna call Marina, the woman that you met on
hinge in just a second. We're gonna ask these questions
on your behalf. And the hope is always is that
we can straighten this out, set you guys up on
a second date and pay for it.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, cool, thank you really appreciate it. Let's see what's
up in part two.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Waiting minute the phone after Gracie abrams, You've got to
hear this in two minutes. It's the frend Show. Don't
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make us a preset. Hey, Nick, okay, welcome back. Let's
call Marina. You met on HIMS. You were really attracted
to her. She was better looking in person than you

(02:23):
expected her to be, and you already thought she was
gonna be hot based on the picture.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
She was hotter in person.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
You had a great night with her, except you haven't
heard from her since to date. You've reached out, you
tried to plan something. She's not responding. You want to
know why. Yeah, yeah, no, you sound very sad about this.
Let's get at the bottom of this and hope for
the best. Good luck, Nick. Hello, Hi is this Marina?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I hate Marina? Good morning. My name is Fred.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I'm calling from the Fred Show, the Morning radio show,
and I do have to tell you that we are
on the radio right now. And I would need your
permission to get any with the call. Can which have
for just a second, would you mind?

Speaker 4 (03:02):
I guess fine.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well I know it's kind of strange, but thank you
for taking a call. We're calling on me haveing a
dude named Nick. He says that he met you on
Hinge and you guys recently went out to dinner. I
hope you remember this guy.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, I remember him.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Okay, Well, see, he had nice things to say about you.
We just talked to him, except he's kind of sad
because he says he's reached out to you since the day,
tried to plan another one and he can't get a
hold of you.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
So what's going on.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Well, yeah, we went out to dinner and he said
some really bizarre things like okay, so when we first
sat down, like like I talked about like I was like, whoa,
that breadstick is huge, like we have like huge breadsticks
or whatever that they served us, And he said something
like there's such thing as too big though, right, And

(03:50):
I like thought he was joking.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
But like, hey, do we sound for a second? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Stuff, because I want to know where they served the
frank and breadsticks.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I mean, did you go to olive garden.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I mean, where could I get me a freaking bread
I was going to say, there is no such thing
as a breadstick that's too big in my opinion, I
just have you know, if that if that's the size
of the breadstick, if it comes it looks like one
of those bagyettes from you know, France, then that's a
single serving.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
And I'm eating it. Yeah, give me some butter.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Not the point though, so he said to you. He
said to you, there's such a thing as too big
of a bread stick.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah, okay, a breadstick, so like and fine, like he
he wasn't laughing, which is really weird. But then later
on in the date he like made some sort of
other like comment about how he's pretty average sized and
like nothing special, which what which I thought, like, first

(04:45):
of all, like that's a lot for a date for
a date, but like I assumed he was just doing
the like underpromised over delivered thing. I don't know, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
But then like but then he said later.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Like I can't believe I have to say this on
the radio. But after he had some strings, he like
confided in me how he was like self conscious about
the size of and like he was upset, like he
had tears in his eyes. Like, I don't know what
was weird.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
I didn't know what to do. It was like it
was like a beam on the state and.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
A breadstick makes himself gone. I mean again, a breadstick
oftentimes would make most people self conscious. But then again,
I'm really not thinking about that when the breadsticks come
to the table, Like, that's not the first thing I
think of.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Is how would I compare?

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Right?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
No, no, So this is obviously something that weighs on
him because apparently nothing, nothing fallic, can come to the
table without some sort of.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Did you order a canoli? God forbid? Don't you dare so? Wow?
So you struck a chord with this guy, like.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
He he feels self conscious about his you know, himself.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I guess I.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Don't know what I did to make feels subconscious about
himself because we were at a restaurant and nothing was
happening other than dinner eating. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
It was so strange for me. It was a strange. Yeah,
that is that is a very strange thing.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
And not you know, not putting your best foot forward, no,
no pun intended. It is not a foot, but Nick,
I forgot to mention that Nick is here. Marina, I'm sorry,
I'm very forgetful. I get caught up in the story
and oh Nick, why why would we go there? Right?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Like it didn't take but a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
The bread comes, like within five minutes, Like why are
we already reflecting on our you know, perceived inadequacies, Like oh,
like come on, you know, I'm sorry that you feel
this way, but like if you know, that's not really
selling ourselves, is it?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (06:46):
And Marina A yeah, I'm just yeah, I guess, but
I kind of feel like, isn't it normal, Like you know,
like kind of everyone's self conscious about that is normal?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Rich inside, it's on the first date to let your
date know that you may be not.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Right right right?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
No? No, no no, And I think there are other
wayes that I think you could have made up for it,
Like if she liked you, I think there are ways
you can make up for these kind of things.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
So maybe or you know, if it what.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
I'm just the way to know you, to tell us
the way I I don't know. I mean, I feel
like I don't know. There's nothing good that's going to
come from you immediately telling someone that you feel inadequate
about a part of your body, because then it automatically
is going to lead to more attention to that thing.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Right, So if you are.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
A little bit less than others, then there's you called
attention to it yourself, Like why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Why would you shoot yourself in the foot in that way?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I figure I address it and not, you know, just.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Like I don't know. No, that's no, let her be surprised.

Speaker 7 (08:00):
You know, I appreciate the openness, what but not right
away because if that's something that I really care about,
not me personally, But if I did, why am I
going to go? Like, however many dates until I find out?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay, but let me see, Mareena, let me ask you this.
So let's say you really liked Nick and it did
get to the phase where you know that is exposed,
you know, consensually, and that's what you wanted.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
I mean, I mean, I would.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Imagine that there's a range that's acceptable, right, And it
would probably depend we're being honest, it would depend on
how much we like the person. And maybe it's like
more of a big picture thing where like, let's see
what you can do with it kind of thing, you
know what I mean, Like, am I right?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, yes, I just like I don't know, I think
part of it. And also like I don't think it's
like normal, but I don't think a lot of people
are self conscious and I just don't know not to.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Compare ourselves to bring it up immediately, you know, within
five minutes a first date.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
But yes, like if once you like get into that stage.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Like though you see where you go.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
But like I don't know, I just feel like weird about.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I feel bad for him, like I actually do, but
I mean, we can't be crying about our inadequacies within
five minutes of a date, Like we just can't.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Be hurt before you could tell like keep okay, but
we gotta hold it together. We got, we got.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I don't care if it's your ex or you're whatever
you're thinking lang or whatever it is, like you can't
you cannot start, you know, or you feel like you
have small hands or I don't know, you can't just
like start crying on a date. And I'm sorry for you,
Nick that you feel this way, and I'm hoping maybe
you're just being ultra self critical, but like I think
that just shows weakness off the off the top, and

(09:52):
I don't think that's always of It's not going to
be attractive very often.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Ever. Oh god, he's about to cry right now.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Okay, Nick, don't cry, don't cry. Everything's fine, it's good.
No breadsticks are present, everything's no one's comparing it anything
right now.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's all about the motion.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well, see, that is kind of what I was saying,
and you're trying to disagree with me.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Was that, I think? I think.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I know I said that earlier, you know, and you
said to me that, you were like, oh, I want
to ever, I want to hear the ways. And what
I'm saying is I feel like there are people out
there that can make up for stuff with other things,
and I think there are people that have the tools
that don't know how to use the tools. So I
feel like, you know, you could have been Okay, Nick,
you just we just don't need to be calling attention

(10:39):
to it, is all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Can lead with that, he says, I might not look
like the breadstick, but I can do this and this.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Who is the breadsticks alone?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
They were waiting at the dinner. Let me get on stuff, mushrooms,
Let me get through the salad. I mean transparency.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
No, it's sometimes there is such a thing as too transparent.
This man was see through. Okay, all right, look I'm Marina.
I'm gonna ask the question. He sounds like a nice guy.
He's sad, he's really broken up about it.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
He liked you.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Would you consider giving him another chance, maybe seeing what
he has to offer. I mean, he's called so much
attention to it now that it's going to be all
the focus.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
But maybe we give another shot. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
I'm so sorry. I know he's a nice guy. I
just like it was just too much for me on
that first date.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Not enough.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
But I don't know, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
It was too much. That's a weird way to end it. Nick.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Look, you seem like a nice guy. My advice to you,
not that you asked for it, but maybe maybe we
within maybe never do we bring that up. We just
sort of let things happen and see what happens from there,
because maybe you're a very talented guy, Nick, and this
never would have been an issue.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I like, I mean, I like to believe.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
There you go, There you go, that's so simple. There perfect, Marina.
Thanks for taking it called good luck.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Good Luck is Gon

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