August 28, 2025 • 15 mins
Carly is confused why Chris won't call her back after taking a trip together... Find out why she got ghosted!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Fread Show.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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the twenty eighth. Never been left waiting by the phone.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
It's the Fread Show. Hey Carly, Hey, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Loud and clear, loud and clear, clear, Good morning morning
to Carly.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
What's going on with this guy? Chris?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Who I guess? Why don't you tell us how you met?
About any days you've been on? And then where things
are now, Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I don't know, man, It was such It was interesting
because we met on a dating app, and you know
how those are, like sometimes just you get some randos.
But I met this guy, Chris, and she was super
hot and he suggested that we go on a weekend
trip for our.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
First day really.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
And I just, yeah, isn't that wild?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's kind of a ball.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
So you meet a guy in a dating app and
he's like, let's go out of town immediately. I mean,
that's that's how Daately episodes.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
But yeah, that's how you end up dead. But you
were like, okay, you know, I was like.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
He's super hot, and I thought, you know what, I'm
just going to take the risk. And I thought the
worst that could happen is we meet at the airport,
he's not who he said he.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Was, and I leave.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And the wild thing is he ended up being totally
who he said he was, and you know, he had
he had like hat friends when his protyle, he looked
like he did some things, and we ended up going.
We had a great weekend. He was a gentleman, he
paid for everything.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
We had a great.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Time, and then at the end of the trip, we
hugged at the airport and I never.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Heard from him again.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Really, this dude took you to New Orleans and you're
saying that the trip went well and then he never
called you after the trip Like that is that's a
wild story. I mean, you met a random stranger and
went on a trip. I will tell you this though, Carly.
When I'm first dating someone, if I think it's going
to go somewhere, which just doesn't happen very often, but
if I think it's going somewhere, I do.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Kind of rush the trip effort.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now, not like on the first date, but you know,
within like the first month or two, because I think
you can tell a lot about somebody about how they
travel and how you travel together. And you know, are
they the people that show up after the flight already left?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You know? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Like how much do they pack? You know, do they
have a TSA pre check or not? It's a huge
deal for Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well, now I'm wondering. I agree, But now I am
thinking maybe there's a real when we do that after
a month or two and not the her time we've
ever met.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
But okay, so I get it totally.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, you go on a trip with this man and
you think it went well, and then he never calls
you again, and you're like, what, what on earth? So
we're going to call this guy Chris. We're going to
ask these questions on your behalf and try and figure
this out. In the hope, of course, as always, is
that we can straighten this out. Maybe there's some good
reason why he hasn't called you, and and maybe you
guys can go out again. We're not paying for a trip,
we don't have that kind of money, but we'll pay
(03:27):
for a table locally and you can go on that
if we can work it out.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Sound good, sounds great. I'm so confused by this dude.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's bizarre to me.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So hey, Carly, all right, I always call this guy Chris.
You met on the dating apps, and you just described
to us something that I really haven't heard maybe ever
in waiting by the phone. But you never met the guy.
You just messaged with him. You thought the profile looked good.
He asked you if you wanted to go to New Orleans,
and you said sure, and you met the guy at
the airport and you went on a trip for the
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weekend and you say it went really well, and he was,
and he says he was and the trip was a success,
except Carly, you told us a minute ago.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You haven't heard from him since then?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You guys exactly right?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Has the the airport?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
This is wild. Well let's call chrisy. We can get
him on the phone figure out why he's ghosting you. Now,
all right, good luck, thank you?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Hi? Is this Chris Chris? Hi?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling from the
Fred Show, the morning radio show. I have to tell
you the whole crew is here. We are on the radio,
and I would need your permission to continue with the call.
Can which apter for just a second? Would you mind?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Do you have to do you? I mean, do you
have to use my last name?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, I'm not going to use your last name. I
don't even know your last name. I'm only using your
first name.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Sure, so that's fine, that's yeah, you're sure?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Okay, Well, i'd so no last name, just Chris. But
I'm calling on behalf of a woman named Carly, who
I guess you just went to New Orleans with you
met her on the datingnap and he went to New Orleans?
Do you remember this?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I hope I do remember that.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, Okay, Well, she reached out to us, had nice
things to say about you, said that, you know, she
took a risk in meeting you with the airport and
going to New Orleans, and she came back alive, which
is nice, right. But she said you were good looking,
You were who you said you were. She said you
were a gentleman on the trip, paid for everything. But
what she's wondering is why you haven't reached out for
another date, because in her opinion, everything went really well.
(05:23):
That was kind of a big risk and everybody went
for it. And here we are. Why are you calling her?
I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It's like this, Okay, she I like to go big,
you know obviously.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
I mean it's not very common for somebody asked somebody
to go on a date in New Orleans. That is
that is a big thing. And she said yes. And
for me, when somebody says that, that means something, you know.
So like, yeah, what I saw at the airport, everything
was lining up. She was hot, just like you know,
just like I expected. She was willing to take a risk,
which is attractive, and everything looked like it was going
(05:58):
to be a great weekend.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
So I was.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
But she I mean, let me just lay it out here.
She didn't want to stay in the same hotel room
as me, which is I mean, that's pretty common knowledge
that that is like part of the deal of something
like this.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well, what do you hold on a second, let's stop
right there.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So when did you learn that she wasn't going to
stay in the same hotel room as you? Like, was
that part of the Hey, I'll go with you on
this trip, and here are the rules? Like did you
guys text about that ahead of time or how did
how did you know that that's what she wanted? No,
when we got to the hotel is when I found out.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
And it's fine, you know, I'm like, like, you know,
I'm willing to pay for everything. But I mean, number one,
it was inconvenient. I found out right when I'm getting
to the hotel. You know, I could have gotten that information.
I mean, it would have screwed up the whole thing
from the get go, but I mean it still had
been better to get that information early. But yeah, right
when we get to the hotel, I find out, and
you know, we kind of went back and forth on
it and be compromised.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That is what I would say.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
We got like two beds in the same room, which is.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Weird, you know, and she didn't show.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Any affection, you know, because I I flew her, I
paid for everything, you know, and I just nothing happened,
like there was no reciprocal action at all.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Okay, So you know, so you didn't there was nothing physical.
You didn't you didn't have any adult interaction of the
naked gut. Uh, that's what you're saying. And you're and
you so and and you suggested that if you had
known that she wouldn't sleep in the same bed or
room as you. You kind of alluded to how maybe
this trip wouldn't have even happened if you had known
(07:40):
from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yes, okay, we agree with that.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
So so basically because you paid for everything and she
agreed to go, that it was implied that there was
supposed to be other things that happened like that was just.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Implied by this. He never said that.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh well, there's Carl. I forgot to mention. Carly's here.
I'm very forgetful. Carly Chris you know each other. But
I want to get to this part. So I just
want to be clear. I don't want to mischaracterize here.
You you said, Hey, let's go on a trip. I'll
pay for everything. But it wasn't it had conditions, they
were just unspoken.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
In my opinion, it's common knowledge. That is a common
knowledge thing that you know. Otherwise I would have just
taken my buddy. It's common knowledge.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You go, you wild, Okay, So back to you, Carly.
It's common knowledge, right, I mean you heard the man.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
No way, I'm sorry, there's nothing we've just met.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
We go on a trip.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
There's no set precedent for that. I look on a
neuralan date, you have some drinks, you needed a bar,
you can make it.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
We literally get on a plane, we.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Go straight to a hotel and I'm going after some sort
of contingency here.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
And we didn't talk about it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Sort of made a very boss minute choice, like there
what we didn't talk particulate. They just said we're gonna
feel it out.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I mean that's what you say.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Listen, if you didn't want to get you know, intimate,
you shouldn't have agreed to the trip like it's I
would never, I would never.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Pressure you didn't. You didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You didn't testure me on the trip. You didn't say anything.
You made it sound like you were totally having a
good a good time, Like I wasn't even aware that
you were upset until I didn't care from you. You
didn't say anything either, Nobody let you go. I can
promise you that nobody said that.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
It's like you want a free car and you went
to the lot and you didn't leave a car, Like
it didn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
No, I want me who got a freak you? What happened?
She owes you nothing, Chris, Let's men be really clear.
She doesn't owe you'd.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Whether they travel or not, though, like even if it
was at their hometown.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Nobody als. Nobody owes you anything now now here, I
will say this. There's a I don't know. I will
say this though, I suppose that it might have been
a good thing to maybe set out some ground rules
before we go.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Because I will say if I'm if I'm staying in
a hotel room with a stranger, I guess I I
in some ways in my mind, I think there's a
possibility we're just throwing all the rules out the window.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
We're really just going forward here.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Honestly, I don't think that's an unfair thing to consider.
That being said, she didn't owe you anything. This was
not an this is not a this is not a
you're not buying things so that she does other things.
That's there's a there's a name for that. It's the
world's oldest profession, and and and that's something that happens
other places.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
But I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Maybe there couldn't have been some kind of conversation from
one side or the other, like, hey, I will accept
this trip for and this is just an example.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I will accept this trip. I'm excited to go.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I just want you to know, you know, nothing is
happening here, like we're going to get to know each
other and have a good time. I don't want there
to be any expectations. And maybe I'll get my own
hotel room, just so we're clear about that. Because guess what, chrisy,
it sounds like you would have said no, I don't
want to go anymore, and then we would have, you know,
exactly where everybody stood exactly. No, I'm not I'm not
(11:22):
I'm not defending you. I'm just ta I'm just trying
to say that I understand why it might have been
valuable to discuss these kind of things before we go
on trips with strangers.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
But she doesn't owe you anything, man, She owes you nothing,
you know.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
I in my mind, like I said, there's an unspoken
code and she broke it, and it just you know,
I didn't put any pressure on her the pressure.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I didn't put any pressure. She agreed to go.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So there is that.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Code and it is what is expected, and I was missing.
I feel like I was misled. I don't think you
were misled. I think you took a chance, and I
think it didn't work. And I think she has every
right to not do anything with you and and you, guys,
it appears that you had a good time anyway, So
why are we blowing it now? It sounds like maybe
if you go on another date, like things could have happened.
(12:09):
But now I don't know, Carly, what do you think
you want to go out with him again? And we'll
pay for it?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I mean, definitely not now. But that's all that said
before was no rules, So in my mind that means
you go and you see and I feel like you're right,
Like he didn't indicate, So for me, the fact that
he asked like he was having a good time and
this is what he was thinking is really, that's the
(12:37):
part that you know makes me very turned off.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So this is a blatant example of me being used,
is what this is example me?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, I would use you to You don't even know
her name, You don't know her favorite color.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You a flight like you did.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
I mean, she knows I don't know favorite color, right,
she she knows about fly first c answer coach.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
You know she knows a lot Aboutmies.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
New Orleans. And I don't blame city girls are okay?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You you swung thing, and I respect the move. I
see what you were doing. It didn't work. She doesn't
know that to you. You don't have a right to
be angry about it.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I'm not angry. I'm not angry. I'm not angry.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I'm I'm disappointed and I feel used, and I'm just not.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That a first date is the first date.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
And if you were like you may not come on
this strip unless you give me sets, you should have
said that.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
You didn't say.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It, right, I agree, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
You don't have to say it. You don't have to
say it if.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You read the you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You know what's ever read the fine print of the ticket.
But it says it right there. You have to look
a little more carefully, says Chris.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
It's implied we flew, we flew to a different city together.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
We didn't go to all.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Done that on the first date.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
You didn't present yourself that way.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You never said anything and to me even implied that.
That's like, there are dates that are very clearly we're
gonna go on this date and there's no expectations we're
going to get to know each other. And there's other
dates where you know, if you show up to that date,
the die is interested in one thing, and you show
up to those dates knowing that that's the only thing
on his mind.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
And you were very much the first that's every date.
That's every date you that's every date.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Okay, because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
If Chris had been like, hey, so we getting it on, well,
then I suppose that that makes it very clear. But
then you know, he didn't do that because he knows
that runs the risk of her not going. And then
she could have been like, hey, I'm not just for
the record, nothing's happening.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That also could have shut things down.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I mean, so, yeah, I guess there could have been
a very unromantic conversation about ground rules to begin, or
there just could have been you know, common human decency,
which did happen. But all the why, well he's mad
about it and now he won't go out with her again.
I think that's the risk you take. But look, she
doesn't want to go out with you again. Chris. I
don't think you were used. You took a shot, it
didn't work. I wish you the best, Carley. I wish
(15:12):
you the best as well.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Thanks,
This is the Fread Show.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Let's get you Hotep A trip for Tunisie Jennifer Lopez
her brand new Las Vegas residency. Jennifer Lopez off All
Night Live in Las Vegas March thirteenth, twenty twenty six,
at the Coliseum at Caesar's.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Palace, Text Vegas.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
He's seven three three seven right now for a chance
to win two tickets to the March thirteenth show at
Two Night Hotel Say March twelfth through the fourteenth at
the Flamingo Hotel Casino, Las Vegas and Round Trefair Fair.
A confirmation text will be sent. Dennered message and data
rates may apply. All thanks to Live Dation. Tickets are
on sale now at ticketmaster dot com for all shows
running December thirtieth through January third, and March sixth through
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the twenty eighth. Never been left waiting by the phone.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
It's the Fread Show. Hey Carly, Hey, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Loud and clear, loud and clear, clear, Good morning morning
to Carly.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
What's going on with this guy? Chris?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Who I guess? Why don't you tell us how you met?
About any days you've been on? And then where things
are now, Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I don't know, man, It was such It was interesting
because we met on a dating app, and you know
how those are, like sometimes just you get some randos.
But I met this guy, Chris, and she was super
hot and he suggested that we go on a weekend
trip for our.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
First day really.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
And I just, yeah, isn't that wild?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's kind of a ball.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
So you meet a guy in a dating app and
he's like, let's go out of town immediately. I mean,
that's that's how Daately episodes.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
But yeah, that's how you end up dead. But you
were like, okay, you know, I was like.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
He's super hot, and I thought, you know what, I'm
just going to take the risk. And I thought the
worst that could happen is we meet at the airport,
he's not who he said he.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Was, and I leave.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And the wild thing is he ended up being totally
who he said he was, and you know, he had
he had like hat friends when his protyle, he looked
like he did some things, and we ended up going.
We had a great weekend. He was a gentleman, he
paid for everything.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
We had a great.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Time, and then at the end of the trip, we
hugged at the airport and I never.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Heard from him again.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Really, this dude took you to New Orleans and you're
saying that the trip went well and then he never
called you after the trip Like that is that's a
wild story. I mean, you met a random stranger and
went on a trip. I will tell you this though, Carly.
When I'm first dating someone, if I think it's going
to go somewhere, which just doesn't happen very often, but
if I think it's going somewhere, I do.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Kind of rush the trip effort.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now, not like on the first date, but you know,
within like the first month or two, because I think
you can tell a lot about somebody about how they
travel and how you travel together. And you know, are
they the people that show up after the flight already left?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You know? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Like how much do they pack? You know, do they
have a TSA pre check or not? It's a huge
deal for Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well, now I'm wondering. I agree, But now I am
thinking maybe there's a real when we do that after
a month or two and not the her time we've
ever met.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
But okay, so I get it totally.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, you go on a trip with this man and
you think it went well, and then he never calls
you again, and you're like, what, what on earth? So
we're going to call this guy Chris. We're going to
ask these questions on your behalf and try and figure
this out. In the hope, of course, as always, is
that we can straighten this out. Maybe there's some good
reason why he hasn't called you, and and maybe you
guys can go out again. We're not paying for a trip,
we don't have that kind of money, but we'll pay
(03:27):
for a table locally and you can go on that
if we can work it out.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Sound good, sounds great. I'm so confused by this dude.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's bizarre to me.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So hey, Carly, all right, I always call this guy Chris.
You met on the dating apps, and you just described
to us something that I really haven't heard maybe ever
in waiting by the phone. But you never met the guy.
You just messaged with him. You thought the profile looked good.
He asked you if you wanted to go to New Orleans,
and you said sure, and you met the guy at
the airport and you went on a trip for the
(03:56):
weekend and you say it went really well, and he was,
and he says he was and the trip was a success,
except Carly, you told us a minute ago.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You haven't heard from him since then?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You guys exactly right?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Has the the airport?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
This is wild. Well let's call chrisy. We can get
him on the phone figure out why he's ghosting you. Now,
all right, good luck, thank you?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Hi? Is this Chris Chris? Hi?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling from the
Fred Show, the morning radio show. I have to tell
you the whole crew is here. We are on the radio,
and I would need your permission to continue with the call.
Can which apter for just a second? Would you mind?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Do you have to do you? I mean, do you
have to use my last name?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, I'm not going to use your last name. I
don't even know your last name. I'm only using your
first name.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Sure, so that's fine, that's yeah, you're sure?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Okay, Well, i'd so no last name, just Chris. But
I'm calling on behalf of a woman named Carly, who
I guess you just went to New Orleans with you
met her on the datingnap and he went to New Orleans?
Do you remember this?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I hope I do remember that.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, Okay, Well, she reached out to us, had nice
things to say about you, said that, you know, she
took a risk in meeting you with the airport and
going to New Orleans, and she came back alive, which
is nice, right. But she said you were good looking,
You were who you said you were. She said you
were a gentleman on the trip, paid for everything. But
what she's wondering is why you haven't reached out for
another date, because in her opinion, everything went really well.
(05:23):
That was kind of a big risk and everybody went
for it. And here we are. Why are you calling her?
I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It's like this, Okay, she I like to go big,
you know obviously.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
I mean it's not very common for somebody asked somebody
to go on a date in New Orleans. That is
that is a big thing. And she said yes. And
for me, when somebody says that, that means something, you know.
So like, yeah, what I saw at the airport, everything
was lining up. She was hot, just like you know,
just like I expected. She was willing to take a risk,
which is attractive, and everything looked like it was going
(05:58):
to be a great weekend.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
So I was.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
But she I mean, let me just lay it out here.
She didn't want to stay in the same hotel room
as me, which is I mean, that's pretty common knowledge
that that is like part of the deal of something
like this.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well, what do you hold on a second, let's stop
right there.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So when did you learn that she wasn't going to
stay in the same hotel room as you? Like, was
that part of the Hey, I'll go with you on
this trip, and here are the rules? Like did you
guys text about that ahead of time or how did
how did you know that that's what she wanted? No,
when we got to the hotel is when I found out.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
And it's fine, you know, I'm like, like, you know,
I'm willing to pay for everything. But I mean, number one,
it was inconvenient. I found out right when I'm getting
to the hotel. You know, I could have gotten that information.
I mean, it would have screwed up the whole thing
from the get go, but I mean it still had
been better to get that information early. But yeah, right
when we get to the hotel, I find out, and
you know, we kind of went back and forth on
it and be compromised.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That is what I would say.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
We got like two beds in the same room, which is.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Weird, you know, and she didn't show.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Any affection, you know, because I I flew her, I
paid for everything, you know, and I just nothing happened,
like there was no reciprocal action at all.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Okay, So you know, so you didn't there was nothing physical.
You didn't you didn't have any adult interaction of the
naked gut. Uh, that's what you're saying. And you're and
you so and and you suggested that if you had
known that she wouldn't sleep in the same bed or
room as you. You kind of alluded to how maybe
this trip wouldn't have even happened if you had known
(07:40):
from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yes, okay, we agree with that.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
So so basically because you paid for everything and she
agreed to go, that it was implied that there was
supposed to be other things that happened like that was just.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Implied by this. He never said that.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh well, there's Carl. I forgot to mention. Carly's here.
I'm very forgetful. Carly Chris you know each other. But
I want to get to this part. So I just
want to be clear. I don't want to mischaracterize here.
You you said, Hey, let's go on a trip. I'll
pay for everything. But it wasn't it had conditions, they
were just unspoken.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
In my opinion, it's common knowledge. That is a common
knowledge thing that you know. Otherwise I would have just
taken my buddy. It's common knowledge.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You go, you wild, Okay, So back to you, Carly.
It's common knowledge, right, I mean you heard the man.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
No way, I'm sorry, there's nothing we've just met.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
We go on a trip.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
There's no set precedent for that. I look on a
neuralan date, you have some drinks, you needed a bar,
you can make it.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
We literally get on a plane, we.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Go straight to a hotel and I'm going after some sort
of contingency here.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
And we didn't talk about it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Sort of made a very boss minute choice, like there
what we didn't talk particulate. They just said we're gonna
feel it out.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I mean that's what you say.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Listen, if you didn't want to get you know, intimate,
you shouldn't have agreed to the trip like it's I
would never, I would never.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Pressure you didn't. You didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You didn't testure me on the trip. You didn't say anything.
You made it sound like you were totally having a
good a good time, Like I wasn't even aware that
you were upset until I didn't care from you. You
didn't say anything either, Nobody let you go. I can
promise you that nobody said that.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
It's like you want a free car and you went
to the lot and you didn't leave a car, Like
it didn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
No, I want me who got a freak you? What happened?
She owes you nothing, Chris, Let's men be really clear.
She doesn't owe you'd.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Whether they travel or not, though, like even if it
was at their hometown.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Nobody als. Nobody owes you anything now now here, I
will say this. There's a I don't know. I will
say this though, I suppose that it might have been
a good thing to maybe set out some ground rules
before we go.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Because I will say if I'm if I'm staying in
a hotel room with a stranger, I guess I I
in some ways in my mind, I think there's a
possibility we're just throwing all the rules out the window.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
We're really just going forward here.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Honestly, I don't think that's an unfair thing to consider.
That being said, she didn't owe you anything. This was
not an this is not a this is not a
you're not buying things so that she does other things.
That's there's a there's a name for that. It's the
world's oldest profession, and and and that's something that happens
other places.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
But I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Maybe there couldn't have been some kind of conversation from
one side or the other, like, hey, I will accept
this trip for and this is just an example.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I will accept this trip. I'm excited to go.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I just want you to know, you know, nothing is
happening here, like we're going to get to know each
other and have a good time. I don't want there
to be any expectations. And maybe I'll get my own
hotel room, just so we're clear about that. Because guess what, chrisy,
it sounds like you would have said no, I don't
want to go anymore, and then we would have, you know,
exactly where everybody stood exactly. No, I'm not I'm not
(11:22):
I'm not defending you. I'm just ta I'm just trying
to say that I understand why it might have been
valuable to discuss these kind of things before we go
on trips with strangers.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
But she doesn't owe you anything, man, She owes you nothing,
you know.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
I in my mind, like I said, there's an unspoken
code and she broke it, and it just you know,
I didn't put any pressure on her the pressure.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I didn't put any pressure. She agreed to go.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So there is that.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Code and it is what is expected, and I was missing.
I feel like I was misled. I don't think you
were misled. I think you took a chance, and I
think it didn't work. And I think she has every
right to not do anything with you and and you, guys,
it appears that you had a good time anyway, So
why are we blowing it now? It sounds like maybe
if you go on another date, like things could have happened.
(12:09):
But now I don't know, Carly, what do you think
you want to go out with him again? And we'll
pay for it?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I mean, definitely not now. But that's all that said
before was no rules, So in my mind that means
you go and you see and I feel like you're right,
Like he didn't indicate, So for me, the fact that
he asked like he was having a good time and
this is what he was thinking is really, that's the
(12:37):
part that you know makes me very turned off.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So this is a blatant example of me being used,
is what this is example me?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, I would use you to You don't even know
her name, You don't know her favorite color.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You a flight like you did.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
I mean, she knows I don't know favorite color, right,
she she knows about fly first c answer coach.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
You know she knows a lot Aboutmies.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
New Orleans. And I don't blame city girls are okay?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You you swung thing, and I respect the move. I
see what you were doing. It didn't work. She doesn't
know that to you. You don't have a right to
be angry about it.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I'm not angry. I'm not angry. I'm not angry.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I'm I'm disappointed and I feel used, and I'm just not.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That a first date is the first date.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
And if you were like you may not come on
this strip unless you give me sets, you should have
said that.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
You didn't say.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It, right, I agree, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
You don't have to say it. You don't have to
say it if.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You read the you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You know what's ever read the fine print of the ticket.
But it says it right there. You have to look
a little more carefully, says Chris.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
It's implied we flew, we flew to a different city together.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
We didn't go to all.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Done that on the first date.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
You didn't present yourself that way.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You never said anything and to me even implied that.
That's like, there are dates that are very clearly we're
gonna go on this date and there's no expectations we're
going to get to know each other. And there's other
dates where you know, if you show up to that date,
the die is interested in one thing, and you show
up to those dates knowing that that's the only thing
on his mind.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
And you were very much the first that's every date.
That's every date you that's every date.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Okay, because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
If Chris had been like, hey, so we getting it on, well,
then I suppose that that makes it very clear. But
then you know, he didn't do that because he knows
that runs the risk of her not going. And then
she could have been like, hey, I'm not just for
the record, nothing's happening.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That also could have shut things down.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I mean, so, yeah, I guess there could have been
a very unromantic conversation about ground rules to begin, or
there just could have been you know, common human decency,
which did happen. But all the why, well he's mad
about it and now he won't go out with her again.
I think that's the risk you take. But look, she
doesn't want to go out with you again. Chris. I
don't think you were used. You took a shot, it
didn't work. I wish you the best, Carley. I wish
(15:12):
you the best as well.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Thanks,
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