December 16, 2025 • 12 mins
Liz is confused why Noah won't call back after two great dates together... Find out why she got ghosted!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Fread Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
All thanks to Live Nation. Ever been left waiting by
the phone? It's the Fread Show. Lee's good morning, Welcome
to the program. How are you good morning program? Huh
that sounds serious the program?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, it's how I say it sometimes. But what's going
on with this guy Noah? We want to help you
out on waiting by the phone. You feel like maybe
you're being ghosted? Tell us kind of everything. How did
you guys meet? I want to hear about any dates
you've been on, any details you want to share, and
we're going to try and figure this out right.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
So?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah. I met Noah through this indoor volleyball league we
both joined this winter. One of them one of the
sports like social club companies.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, sure, I just kind of wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Something active being that it was colder outside and uh
not for nothing, but I heard there were a lot
of single men there, so why not.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, people do that volleyball, they have like softball, leagus,
you can sign up for soccer stuff. Yeah, you name it,
and it's all just guys. Is like being active. But
let's face it, people trying to get some Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I mean, yeah, sade, right, it's all good.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, I'm a little too lazy for that. But still
I gotta go kick a ball to meet s I
mean like.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
No, I'm good, but then you can go.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You can go to the trivia meat group, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Also have to leave the house for that.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
But I'm talking one day if the door desk driver
is the hottest person I've ever seen, male or female
at this point, just whatever, okay, yeah, and engaging in
his door career.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Okay, so you you joined on a door to a.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Side note, have you been getting male names and then
a female shows up or female names and then a
male shows up keeps hopping to this, yes, thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, that actually makes me a little nervous side note
because it's like wells, whose account is this registered?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Like, why can't you deliver?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Who is?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So we asked the guy the other day and he
said it was his mom's.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Like why were you? Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So you you joined this league to meet a person,
and then what happens?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I meete a person. I met Noah And it was
after a few weeks there, and we started talking about
getting a drink after volleyball, and we did, and I
think it went really well. So I know it went
really well because we planned a second date, which was
more drinks and dinner and uh again, I see and
dinner and that went really really well. So we went
(02:54):
back to his place, we had some fun, and then uh,
Noah built the arc and rode away into the sunset.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Okay, so after two dates and a hookup, you never
heard from him again. He never called or to great
I mean okay, and you reached out and it was.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
More I'm sorry to cut you off. It was kind
of more of like a fade away. It wasn't just
like a disappear. The messages got shorter and shorter and
then eventually stopped. So I don't know what the deal is.
This was not like a random thing. We like really
got to know each other and then hooked up. It
wasn't like one of those things where we just kind
of hooked up and he disappeared, So I didn't think
this was appropriate time for a fade away.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
All right, well, and after two dates and all the
rest of it. So here's what we're gonna do. We're
gonna call Noah in just a second. You'll be on
the phone, Liz. At the same time, we're gonna ask
some questions. At some point, you're welcome to jump in,
and the hope is that we can straighten it all
out and set you up on another date that we
paid for.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Sound good, awesome, Thank you so much, guys.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Hey, Liz, I'm here. All right, let's call Noah. You guys,
you went on a couple of dates. You met actually
out in the wild at one of those like sort
of sports social things. You guys are being active together,
which is so exciting and which it makes sense. I
see why people you know, meet that way, especially when
it's cold, some kind of indoor event makes sense. You
(04:10):
meet this guy, you go on two dates. The last
date you hooked up, you thought everything was really headed
in one direction, but you have not heard from this
man since then. You feel like he's ghosting you. You
want to know why?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
That sums it up pretty well, thank you. All right,
well let's call him now. Good luck, Liz.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Is this Noah? Hey? No, hey, Hi, good morning. My
name is Fred.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm calling for the Fred's Show, the morning radio show,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now and I would need your permission
to continue with the call. Can which have for just
a second? You can hang up anytime? Yeah, I guess, yeah, Well,
thank you Noah. We're calling on behalf of a woman
named Liz, who I guess you met. You were playing
sports together, were a volleyball and you went on a
(04:58):
couple of dates.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You remember, Liz, I do?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay, So she called us that, Oh well, hold on,
I just wanted to tell you where we're at here.
She she called us and liked you a lot, told
us about the couple of dates that you guys have
been on, but says that you haven't reached out since.
And so I'm just curious and maybe you maybe you
knew what I was going to ask, But you know,
why is that?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Are you ghosting her? I think it.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
First of all, let's just start here. It's insane that
you guys are calling me, first off, and secondly, especially
for her. Oh she's we We we did meet playing volleyball.
It was great, We got along well, we went out
a few times, we had some fun. Uh and then
you know, uh, you know, something kind of struck me
as wrong the whole time, and I just really couldn't
(05:41):
put my finger on it. And then finally, you know,
the night that she stayed over and we you know,
I kind of put two and two together and I
realized that, you know, this guy that she's been talking
about all the time, and she talks about this best
friend of hers that she's been best friends with for
you know, for a long long time, and all of
(06:03):
a sudden, out oft know where, I put it together
that this best friend of hers is her ex boyfriend.
Now these two spend time together, they go to family
things together, they sleep in the same bed at least
once a week together. Like that's uh.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So so Noah, you're getting to know Liz. You guys
are going on these dates and she keeps referring to
this best friend of hers and all the different activities
they do together, and I don't know, like if I
guess if it's me and I hear that they're sleeping
in the same bed and they're hanging out constantly in
family stuff. If I'm being really honest, I just assume
it's a gay best friend.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
If it's a.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Guy, I mean, it sounds like it sounds like, you know,
pretty intimate. If you have if you have a romantic
friend or a male female dynamic that's like that, I
would assume you would date that person. Well, it turns
out they did. They did date, but they still do
all these things eleven years, eleven years and so the
eleven years and it sounds like they're still dating. It
kind of sounds that way. But she describes as man
(06:58):
as her ex.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, so she's got this guy in her life that
dogs everything with her. What does she meet Noa for?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Oh my god, what does she need Noah for?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
In the third person, I would I agree, what does
she need Noah for? And here to answer that question
is Liz. I forgot to mention that Liz is here. Liz,
you left Ali the ex ale. That is a very
honest reaction. You left out the eleven year relationship. Dude,
who still sleeps in bed with you once a week.
You left that out.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I mean, I mean, first of all, I can't believe
how insecure Noah is. I mean, a girl can't be
close friends with a guy. I mean, first of all, well, well,
I have so much to say. I can't even believe
he's freaking out about this. It's so crazy. I mean,
me and me and my ex are not meant to
be together and it's not physical at all, but we'll
(07:48):
always love each other. You know, He's always going to
be a staple in my life. He's my best friend
for many years, and we just we tried the dating
thing and it didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's not for us.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I mean, I bet a hundred bucks that that would
feel differently if Matt Matt my ex if he was
a woman.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Conversations well, I mean honestly, if it was a woman
who you had data for eleven years, I think the
concern would be the same.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I mean, what we're.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Talking about is DGE double standards.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What we're talking about here is a is a relationship
of eleven years that was at one point romantic, and
it sounds like it's everything. And you're saying but the sex,
but it sounds like it's every bit as intimate as
it was. And so another person comes along and they're like,
wait a minute, that would be my job, and that
dude's not going anywhere, and you're talking about it so openly.
I guess I can see the reservations.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I mean, like, I just I understand to a degree.
But it's just like something you got to get over.
Like they'll meet, they'll hang out, and he'll realize this
guy is not that and he'll realize run the best frind.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, the ma's going to be in your bed by
ten pm? Because why are you sharing bay? Yeah, I'm
gay and I don't sleep in a bout with another
many of time. Why is he in your bed?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Girl?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean, you know struggles for cuddles, man.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It is physical.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
In fact, I would argue that's more intimate than other
things that you could do in bed.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I mean, I live.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Teddy Bear, you know. I mean I've heard this before.
The guys were like, well, I guess you can't have
sex about the eggs, but.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Huh, it's it's exactly. It's the level of intimacy though
it's it's it's the lack of boundaries. Like, if I'm
a guy trying to date you, and I can see
from a mile away that there's this other guy who's
very much fulfilling a lot of that role, then I
might ask the same questions like well what am I
here for?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
But again, like if it was.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
A female, even if we did it, if it was
a female and we were laying in bed together and
going out and playing volume and all these things together,
then nobody would have anything to say about it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I could honestly tell you that the differentiating factor is
the fact that you were romantic. And I know that
you think I'm yessing you as a guy, as a
straight dude. But if I dated a woman or met
a woman and found out that she was she spent
that much time and had that much level of intimacy
and that level of closeness with a woman who she
used to date, that would concern me too. I don't
(10:14):
care if it's a man or a woman. It's more
what are you gonna like? Why is this other person?
Why there are no boundaries?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That's run.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
It's my best friend. I mean, I wants to be
my best friend and bought my best friend out of
the picture. I just think that just sounds jealous and
possessive and insecure, and you'd be missing out on a.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Great best friends that don't cuddle with you in bed
at night once a week, I'm told.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I mean, it's literally like sleeping with my dog.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Me light, I did not date my dog for eleven years.
You know, I cuddle with my dog, but did not.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, it's also a dog. It's not a human being
who you went slept with. And and I mean your family, Yeah,
once with many.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Many many years ago, and he's still friends with my
family and they love him. And it's like, yeah, I mean,
I just I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Get it, And I guess I'm just surprisedly is that
you can't see even though you clearly understand this and
feel comfortable with it. I guess I'm surprised you can't,
you know, sort of put the shoe on the other
foot and say, would you like it if Noah had
this woman in bed with him when he was texting
you And it's not any intimate, it's not sexual. But
but there's a woman who sleeps in bed with him.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's not you.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, I mean, I guess I can see your point,
but I just feel like I don't know. I feel
I'm a little more open minded in this field. I
guess a lot of people have an issue with it,
So I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
All right, So the guys that go.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
About this too, I don't know if it would ever
work out if Matt knew that you didn't approve anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So, oh, no, so Matt, Matt gets the best friend,
gets to make the decision.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Then, so so we ask.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Matte doesn't get to make the decision.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
But he gets a vote in who you date my
best friend?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh boy, your ex boyfriend gets a vote in who
you date next?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Well, he's in bed with you.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Look, I mean, if it works for you, that's fine,
but you got to realize it's it's not gonna work
for a lot of other Yeah. Okay, Well anyway, look,
I'll ask the question, Noah, do you want to try again?
Maybe Madd'll come. Maybe you can beat Mad. Do the
interview prize, go through the interview process for my body?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Oh be more clear.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Wow, that's aggressive. That's okay. So that's a no for Noah.
All right, Liz, Look, I wish you a best of luck.
Sounds like you had a great friendship, and I hope
that you can find somebody who's comfortable with all of them. Okay, Noah,
we got we've heard enough from you. Let's let's just hope.
Liz Yeah, is going to be weird now, it's going
(12:47):
to be strange, all right, Guys, find.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Another place to play.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
It's cool, all right.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Thank you both for your time invested, luck for both
of you. Thank you
This is the Fread Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Dame is taking over Las Vegas this January for his
seven Night residents. Heth Doby Live at Park MGM, and
we've got a trip for two to the January twenty
fifth show to night Hotel State at Park MGM January
twenty fourth through the twenty sixth and round trip airfare.
Text dusk to three seven three three seven now for
a chance to win. A confirmation text will be sent
(00:22):
standard message of data rates may apply.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
All thanks to Live Nation. Ever been left waiting by
the phone? It's the Fread Show. Lee's good morning, Welcome
to the program. How are you good morning program? Huh
that sounds serious the program?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, it's how I say it sometimes. But what's going
on with this guy Noah? We want to help you
out on waiting by the phone. You feel like maybe
you're being ghosted? Tell us kind of everything. How did
you guys meet? I want to hear about any dates
you've been on, any details you want to share, and
we're going to try and figure this out right.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
So?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah. I met Noah through this indoor volleyball league we
both joined this winter. One of them one of the
sports like social club companies.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, sure, I just kind of wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Something active being that it was colder outside and uh
not for nothing, but I heard there were a lot
of single men there, so why not.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, people do that volleyball, they have like softball, leagus,
you can sign up for soccer stuff. Yeah, you name it,
and it's all just guys. Is like being active. But
let's face it, people trying to get some Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I mean, yeah, sade, right, it's all good.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, I'm a little too lazy for that. But still
I gotta go kick a ball to meet s I
mean like.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
No, I'm good, but then you can go.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You can go to the trivia meat group, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Also have to leave the house for that.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
But I'm talking one day if the door desk driver
is the hottest person I've ever seen, male or female
at this point, just whatever, okay, yeah, and engaging in
his door career.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Okay, so you you joined on a door to a.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Side note, have you been getting male names and then
a female shows up or female names and then a
male shows up keeps hopping to this, yes, thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, that actually makes me a little nervous side note
because it's like wells, whose account is this registered?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Like, why can't you deliver?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Who is?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So we asked the guy the other day and he
said it was his mom's.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Like why were you? Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So you you joined this league to meet a person,
and then what happens?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I meete a person. I met Noah And it was
after a few weeks there, and we started talking about
getting a drink after volleyball, and we did, and I
think it went really well. So I know it went
really well because we planned a second date, which was
more drinks and dinner and uh again, I see and
dinner and that went really really well. So we went
(02:54):
back to his place, we had some fun, and then uh,
Noah built the arc and rode away into the sunset.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Okay, so after two dates and a hookup, you never
heard from him again. He never called or to great
I mean okay, and you reached out and it was.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
More I'm sorry to cut you off. It was kind
of more of like a fade away. It wasn't just
like a disappear. The messages got shorter and shorter and
then eventually stopped. So I don't know what the deal is.
This was not like a random thing. We like really
got to know each other and then hooked up. It
wasn't like one of those things where we just kind
of hooked up and he disappeared, So I didn't think
this was appropriate time for a fade away.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
All right, well, and after two dates and all the
rest of it. So here's what we're gonna do. We're
gonna call Noah in just a second. You'll be on
the phone, Liz. At the same time, we're gonna ask
some questions. At some point, you're welcome to jump in,
and the hope is that we can straighten it all
out and set you up on another date that we
paid for.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Sound good, awesome, Thank you so much, guys.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Hey, Liz, I'm here. All right, let's call Noah. You guys,
you went on a couple of dates. You met actually
out in the wild at one of those like sort
of sports social things. You guys are being active together,
which is so exciting and which it makes sense. I
see why people you know, meet that way, especially when
it's cold, some kind of indoor event makes sense. You
(04:10):
meet this guy, you go on two dates. The last
date you hooked up, you thought everything was really headed
in one direction, but you have not heard from this
man since then. You feel like he's ghosting you. You
want to know why?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
That sums it up pretty well, thank you. All right,
well let's call him now. Good luck, Liz.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Is this Noah? Hey? No, hey, Hi, good morning. My
name is Fred.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm calling for the Fred's Show, the morning radio show,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now and I would need your permission
to continue with the call. Can which have for just
a second? You can hang up anytime? Yeah, I guess, yeah, Well,
thank you Noah. We're calling on behalf of a woman
named Liz, who I guess you met. You were playing
sports together, were a volleyball and you went on a
(04:58):
couple of dates.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You remember, Liz, I do?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay, So she called us that, Oh well, hold on,
I just wanted to tell you where we're at here.
She she called us and liked you a lot, told
us about the couple of dates that you guys have
been on, but says that you haven't reached out since.
And so I'm just curious and maybe you maybe you
knew what I was going to ask, But you know,
why is that?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Are you ghosting her? I think it.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
First of all, let's just start here. It's insane that
you guys are calling me, first off, and secondly, especially
for her. Oh she's we We we did meet playing volleyball.
It was great, We got along well, we went out
a few times, we had some fun. Uh and then
you know, uh, you know, something kind of struck me
as wrong the whole time, and I just really couldn't
(05:41):
put my finger on it. And then finally, you know,
the night that she stayed over and we you know,
I kind of put two and two together and I
realized that, you know, this guy that she's been talking
about all the time, and she talks about this best
friend of hers that she's been best friends with for
you know, for a long long time, and all of
(06:03):
a sudden, out oft know where, I put it together
that this best friend of hers is her ex boyfriend.
Now these two spend time together, they go to family
things together, they sleep in the same bed at least
once a week together. Like that's uh.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So so Noah, you're getting to know Liz. You guys
are going on these dates and she keeps referring to
this best friend of hers and all the different activities
they do together, and I don't know, like if I
guess if it's me and I hear that they're sleeping
in the same bed and they're hanging out constantly in
family stuff. If I'm being really honest, I just assume
it's a gay best friend.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
If it's a.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Guy, I mean, it sounds like it sounds like, you know,
pretty intimate. If you have if you have a romantic
friend or a male female dynamic that's like that, I
would assume you would date that person. Well, it turns
out they did. They did date, but they still do
all these things eleven years, eleven years and so the
eleven years and it sounds like they're still dating. It
kind of sounds that way. But she describes as man
(06:58):
as her ex.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, so she's got this guy in her life that
dogs everything with her. What does she meet Noa for?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Oh my god, what does she need Noah for?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
In the third person, I would I agree, what does
she need Noah for? And here to answer that question
is Liz. I forgot to mention that Liz is here. Liz,
you left Ali the ex ale. That is a very
honest reaction. You left out the eleven year relationship. Dude,
who still sleeps in bed with you once a week.
You left that out.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I mean, I mean, first of all, I can't believe
how insecure Noah is. I mean, a girl can't be
close friends with a guy. I mean, first of all, well, well,
I have so much to say. I can't even believe
he's freaking out about this. It's so crazy. I mean,
me and me and my ex are not meant to
be together and it's not physical at all, but we'll
(07:48):
always love each other. You know, He's always going to
be a staple in my life. He's my best friend
for many years, and we just we tried the dating
thing and it didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's not for us.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I mean, I bet a hundred bucks that that would
feel differently if Matt Matt my ex if he was
a woman.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Conversations well, I mean honestly, if it was a woman
who you had data for eleven years, I think the
concern would be the same.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I mean, what we're.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Talking about is DGE double standards.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What we're talking about here is a is a relationship
of eleven years that was at one point romantic, and
it sounds like it's everything. And you're saying but the sex,
but it sounds like it's every bit as intimate as
it was. And so another person comes along and they're like,
wait a minute, that would be my job, and that
dude's not going anywhere, and you're talking about it so openly.
I guess I can see the reservations.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I mean, like, I just I understand to a degree.
But it's just like something you got to get over.
Like they'll meet, they'll hang out, and he'll realize this
guy is not that and he'll realize run the best frind.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, the ma's going to be in your bed by
ten pm? Because why are you sharing bay? Yeah, I'm
gay and I don't sleep in a bout with another
many of time. Why is he in your bed?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Girl?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean, you know struggles for cuddles, man.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It is physical.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
In fact, I would argue that's more intimate than other
things that you could do in bed.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I mean, I live.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Teddy Bear, you know. I mean I've heard this before.
The guys were like, well, I guess you can't have
sex about the eggs, but.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Huh, it's it's exactly. It's the level of intimacy though
it's it's it's the lack of boundaries. Like, if I'm
a guy trying to date you, and I can see
from a mile away that there's this other guy who's
very much fulfilling a lot of that role, then I
might ask the same questions like well what am I
here for?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
But again, like if it was.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
A female, even if we did it, if it was
a female and we were laying in bed together and
going out and playing volume and all these things together,
then nobody would have anything to say about it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I could honestly tell you that the differentiating factor is
the fact that you were romantic. And I know that
you think I'm yessing you as a guy, as a
straight dude. But if I dated a woman or met
a woman and found out that she was she spent
that much time and had that much level of intimacy
and that level of closeness with a woman who she
used to date, that would concern me too. I don't
(10:14):
care if it's a man or a woman. It's more
what are you gonna like? Why is this other person?
Why there are no boundaries?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That's run.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
It's my best friend. I mean, I wants to be
my best friend and bought my best friend out of
the picture. I just think that just sounds jealous and
possessive and insecure, and you'd be missing out on a.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Great best friends that don't cuddle with you in bed
at night once a week, I'm told.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I mean, it's literally like sleeping with my dog.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Me light, I did not date my dog for eleven years.
You know, I cuddle with my dog, but did not.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, it's also a dog. It's not a human being
who you went slept with. And and I mean your family, Yeah,
once with many.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Many many years ago, and he's still friends with my
family and they love him. And it's like, yeah, I mean,
I just I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Get it, And I guess I'm just surprisedly is that
you can't see even though you clearly understand this and
feel comfortable with it. I guess I'm surprised you can't,
you know, sort of put the shoe on the other
foot and say, would you like it if Noah had
this woman in bed with him when he was texting
you And it's not any intimate, it's not sexual. But
but there's a woman who sleeps in bed with him.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's not you.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, I mean, I guess I can see your point,
but I just feel like I don't know. I feel
I'm a little more open minded in this field. I
guess a lot of people have an issue with it,
So I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
All right, So the guys that go.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
About this too, I don't know if it would ever
work out if Matt knew that you didn't approve anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So, oh, no, so Matt, Matt gets the best friend,
gets to make the decision.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Then, so so we ask.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Matte doesn't get to make the decision.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
But he gets a vote in who you date my
best friend?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh boy, your ex boyfriend gets a vote in who
you date next?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Well, he's in bed with you.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Look, I mean, if it works for you, that's fine,
but you got to realize it's it's not gonna work
for a lot of other Yeah. Okay, Well anyway, look,
I'll ask the question, Noah, do you want to try again?
Maybe Madd'll come. Maybe you can beat Mad. Do the
interview prize, go through the interview process for my body?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Oh be more clear.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Wow, that's aggressive. That's okay. So that's a no for Noah.
All right, Liz, Look, I wish you a best of luck.
Sounds like you had a great friendship, and I hope
that you can find somebody who's comfortable with all of them. Okay, Noah,
we got we've heard enough from you. Let's let's just hope.
Liz Yeah, is going to be weird now, it's going
(12:47):
to be strange, all right, Guys, find.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Another place to play.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
It's cool, all right.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Thank you both for your time invested, luck for both
of you. Thank you
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