August 27, 2025 • 11 mins
Ross is confused why Kelly won't call him back after planning a date... Find out why he got ghosted!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the fread Show. Let's get to Hotel a
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Las Vegas March thirteenth, twenty twenty six, at the Coliseum
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(00:20):
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(00:43):
been left waiting by the phone? It's the Fred Show.
Hey Ross, good morning, Welcome to the show. How are
you hey?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Good morning?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
What's going on with this woman? Kelly? We gotta know
how you met, about any dates you've been on, and
then where things are now? Because you know you think
you're being ghosted, which is why you called waiting by
the phone, So what's going on?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, I don't know, it's a it's a strange one.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
We I met this girl, Kelly.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
She's cool.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
We you know, we did the whole dating app thing
and you know, a message and like conversation was.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Good, Like I thought it was going well. And she
did give me your number.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
And I figured, you know, I asked because you know,
those messages get lost and different, you know, people, and
so I was like, all right, let's let's take this
off the app.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Let's message. So she gave me your number. We talked
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
We you know, we're texting, and we were planning a
first date, and then just ghosted.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So you never went on the date, like you guys
ever even met.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
No, but like we were planning it and everything seemed fine,
and I mean, I don't know, like if she wasn't interested,
why would she give me your number?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Interesting? Interesting? So you guys, Yeah, that is weird that
you would get to that point and then just the
person would just disappear. It's like, why why would they
even bother to communicate with you or write to your point,
exchange numbers or whatever. Why would you do that if
you have no intention of meeting somebody exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So I'm just kind of like, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, that's strange, and I would want to know what
happened too. So let's play a song come back, and
it's the second Ross. We'll call Kelly. You'll be on
the phone at the same time, and hope is that
we can straighten this out. Hey, Ross, Yeah, all right,
welcome back. Let's call Kelly. You met on one of
the dating apps. You got her number on the app,
you switched to text, and you guys were planning a date,
talking about where to go and when, and then she disappeared,
(02:23):
and you have not heard a word from her. Sense,
so you have her number, but now she's ignoring you.
I mean, she didn't want to see you. Why did
she give you her number? That's weird exactly.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah, And like I said, the conversation was cool, Like
there was never I look back at all the texts
and everything.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I don't think I said anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So I start planning a date and did not go
on and it's strange. All right, Let's call Kelly now,
good luck? Ross. Thanks, Hello hisus Kelly. Yeah, hey Kelly,
good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling from The
Fred Show, the Morning radio Show. The whole crew is here,
(02:59):
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now and I would need your permission
to continue with the call. Can which that for just
a second? Would you mind?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Sorry?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
What is this about?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'll take it as a yes. So we're calling on
behalf of a dude named Ross. I guess you matched
with this guy on a dating app and then you
exchange numbers and we're talking about a date. Do you
remember this whole process?
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, Well, what happened because Ross reached out to us
and said that you guys, I guess matched and we're
chatting and then he got your number and then you
were on text talking about a date. You were planning
a date, and then you disappeared. So you kind of
ghosted him before you ever met, it seems like. And
he's curious and we're all curious kind of as to
why what happened.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
Okay, yeah, so basically, yeah, I mean, he seemed like
a great guy to me, but after a few days,
I just I realized he's just a lot, Like there's
no other.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Way to put it. He's just too much for me.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
What does that mean, how can you know that via tech?
Like I can see if you met someone and their
personality was over the top, or you know, you weren't vibing,
there was no in person chemistry, But how do you
know he's too much over text? Totally totally.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
So yeah, so I I did give him my number
because you know, he you know, it's it's just much
easier to communicate off the app.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
And I literally, like.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
The first night after I gave him my number, I
looked at my phone and I saw he was calling
me like around nine pm, and I was like, that's
a little that's a little bit much.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
We led with a phone call, which for a lot
of people these.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Days, yeah, stranger, you know, Like I don't So I answered,
I don't even know why, and he was like, you know,
just calling this sacod night, which okay, I thought was
odd and I'm.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Guessing about your laughs is also using.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
It's odd, Like it was odd for him to call
me in the first place, right, let alone at nine
pm just to say good night, and.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Like at this point we're still strangers, but you know,
I let it go and I was like, maybe he's
just super excited.
Speaker 8 (05:08):
For Saturday, like I'll chalk it up to.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
That and so yeah, so, but then he proceeded.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
To call me every single night to say good night
until Friday, until.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
The day before the date.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I mean he wanted to make sure you had a
good night, you know, like he did. You know, he
wanted to.
Speaker 8 (05:25):
Nine o'clock phone call is so scary, especially from a
stranger like.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Jury, and five nights in a row, like that's really extra.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
So I honestly the fifth time I let it go
to voicemail and I blocked him because I.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
Was just like, oh, this is the foot we're getting off,
you know, like this is not right.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
There's nobody in my life who wants me to have
that good of a night, like under any circumstances. I
kind of love it, and I only say that nightly
phone call from someone you've never met.
Speaker 9 (05:55):
Well, he didn't go bad yet with the date didn't happen,
So my only thing is like I think maybe he
was excited, but also like, we we don't call enough anymore.
I feel like in you're first dating, I don't think
we call enough. My husband, who I married, You did.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Not call your husband who you're married to is supposed
to be Yes, Okay. I wanted to be clear on
which husband we we're talking about, the one that you're
married to.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
Okay, yeah, so you know you did when did this happen?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I have a married woman.
Speaker 9 (06:23):
And your husband still feel like when we first started dating,
he did not call, and I didn't like that. If
you would have called prior to the day, I think
that'd be actually kind of cute.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Okay, So it was too much communication for you too
early on? It was like, what did it feel like
a little clingy maybe?
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Or yeah, it felt like yeah, over the top cleany.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, let me bring Ross in because this should be
no surprise you that Ross is on the call. He
wanted to see if we were having a good morning.
So Ross, you get your phone number and you just
think like, okay, that's that's my cue to start calling,
because I think a lot of people in this day
and age, they want even a text before they call,
before you call, even if you know them, like hey
you free, can we chat? You know, because people are
(07:02):
busy or they don't like to talk on the phone
as much anymore. But you didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
No, I mean, damn sorry. If I was interested, like
I mean, we've heard.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So much worse, Like this is not the worst thing.
You could not have answered the phone, Kelly. I suppose
if you didn't want to talk to him, you could
have just let her go to voicemail and maybe established
a boundary that way. But the dude, it's hard for
me not to see his side because it might have
been too much. But but how many men on the
dating apps, myself included, have done too little.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
I mean that's fair, But like, I think there's definitely
a lot of middle grounds between calling five times in
a row and not calling at all, Like one one call.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Would have been okay, just to be like, yes something.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I mean, I suppose Kelly, you could have said, hey,
you know, I'm not a phone talker or not answered
the phone. And I think after maybe a couple of
times of you not answering the phone, hopefully he would
have gotten it. It's not as though he was calling
you over and over and over and over again, right
like at in a single setting until you picked up.
You know, he was calling you at the end of
the day. Like I understand why that's not for everybody,
but I mean, we've heard so much worse.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
It'll be you know, you know, women always talking about
Oh I want a gentleman. I want someone, you know,
I want a man who's gonna who's gonna be proactive
and do more and make and so I'm doing that,
I'm calling and that's a turnoff. Then all right, cool,
I'll find someone that will, like, come.
Speaker 10 (08:28):
On, I just I mean listen, like I I guess
I appreciate like the sentiment, but like, being a gentleman
doesn't mean you call someone you just met late at
night multiple days in a row, you know, like again
one instance that would have been fine, but like five
times is not cool for me, Like especially like you
don't know what it's like as a woman to just
(08:49):
like receive calls from you know, it's just like it
instantly puts you in this like scary.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'll tell you what, I don't know what something. Yeah, yeah,
I'm scary, I think might I mean, I'm not here
to tell you how to feel. But I've had people
before say, like when I get their phone number before
I meet him, Hey do you want to do you
want to chat? And they're like, no, I'd rather wait
till we meet, like I'd rather or hey, I'm not
going to give you my number, like I'd rather just
meet and and and then if I'm comfortable with the date,
(09:17):
then I'll give you my number and then we can
go from there. I just think if this is something
that was important to you, or you were bothered by it,
I think if you had said something to him like, hey,
I'd rather not talk till the date, or I'm not
a big phone talker, or let's just chat on Friday
or whatever, and then he keeps calling, well, then he's
then I think he's he's gone. You know, he's broken
a boundary. But you didn't say that, So I think
(09:40):
it's hard for me to to not think maybe he's
just trying, which I feel like women do say all
the time. I wish the guy would try harder, except
in this case, you wish he hadn't tried hard, which
is kind of tough for a guy to know when
he's not supposed to try hard.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
I just didn't want to be I didn't want him
to misconstrue me as being rude, you know, and like
I wanted us to start off on the right foot
and like give him the benefit of the doubt. But
I also like, if I'm going to date someone, I
want them to like know without asking that calling somebody
five nights in a row when we're essentially strangers is
(10:15):
too much, Like that should just be.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Something that you should know. She didn't want to be
concerned as rude, so you just go to me come on, right?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I see aspects of both sides here. But look,
I'll ask the question, Kelly, do you want to you know,
hit reset here? Maybe and Ross won't call you until
the date. You guys can go on the date and
see if it works out. I mean, I think I
see where his intentions were, and I also think I
see why you were hoping he would sort of get
(10:43):
the drift. But do you want to try or no?
Speaker 8 (10:46):
I think that we're too far gone at this point.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Too far gone. She want a man that don't talk
to her at all, and I understand, but he didn't
talk enough. It's probably not gonna be great. So he
needs to talk the right amount, but not only talk
when I talk to you. Yeah, understood, understood? Yeah I
got him. Hey, Ross, Look, I don't think you're a
bad guy. I think, you know, maybe we got to
read the room a little bit here, But I can
also see the mixed message, or I can see why
(11:10):
you where you were thinking, and that you were trying.
And I'm sorry I didn't work out, but I wish
you guys both the best of luck.
This is the fread Show. Let's get to Hotel a
trip for tun to see Jennifer Lopez her brand new
Las Vegas residency. Jennifer Lopez Up All Night Live in
Las Vegas March thirteenth, twenty twenty six, at the Coliseum
at Caesar's Palace. Text Jalo to three seven three three
seven right now for a chance to win two tickets
(00:20):
to the March thirteenth show at two Night Hotels Day
March twelfth through the fourteenth at the Blamingo Hotel Casino,
Las Vegas and Brown Treverair Fair. A confirmation test will
be sent standard message and data rates may apply. All
thanks to live dation. Tickets are on sale now at
ticketmaster dot com for all shows running December thirtieth through
January third, and March sixth through the twenty eighth. Ever
(00:43):
been left waiting by the phone? It's the Fred Show.
Hey Ross, good morning, Welcome to the show. How are
you hey?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Good morning?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
What's going on with this woman? Kelly? We gotta know
how you met, about any dates you've been on, and
then where things are now? Because you know you think
you're being ghosted, which is why you called waiting by
the phone, So what's going on?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, I don't know, it's a it's a strange one.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
We I met this girl, Kelly.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
She's cool.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
We you know, we did the whole dating app thing
and you know, a message and like conversation was.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Good, Like I thought it was going well. And she
did give me your number.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
And I figured, you know, I asked because you know,
those messages get lost and different, you know, people, and
so I was like, all right, let's let's take this
off the app.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Let's message. So she gave me your number. We talked
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
We you know, we're texting, and we were planning a
first date, and then just ghosted.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So you never went on the date, like you guys
ever even met.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
No, but like we were planning it and everything seemed fine,
and I mean, I don't know, like if she wasn't interested,
why would she give me your number?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Interesting? Interesting? So you guys, Yeah, that is weird that
you would get to that point and then just the
person would just disappear. It's like, why why would they
even bother to communicate with you or write to your point,
exchange numbers or whatever. Why would you do that if
you have no intention of meeting somebody exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So I'm just kind of like, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, that's strange, and I would want to know what
happened too. So let's play a song come back, and
it's the second Ross. We'll call Kelly. You'll be on
the phone at the same time, and hope is that
we can straighten this out. Hey, Ross, Yeah, all right,
welcome back. Let's call Kelly. You met on one of
the dating apps. You got her number on the app,
you switched to text, and you guys were planning a date,
talking about where to go and when, and then she disappeared,
(02:23):
and you have not heard a word from her. Sense,
so you have her number, but now she's ignoring you.
I mean, she didn't want to see you. Why did
she give you her number? That's weird exactly.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah, And like I said, the conversation was cool, Like
there was never I look back at all the texts
and everything.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I don't think I said anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So I start planning a date and did not go
on and it's strange. All right, Let's call Kelly now,
good luck? Ross. Thanks, Hello hisus Kelly. Yeah, hey Kelly,
good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling from The
Fred Show, the Morning radio Show. The whole crew is here,
(02:59):
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now and I would need your permission
to continue with the call. Can which that for just
a second? Would you mind?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Sorry?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
What is this about?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'll take it as a yes. So we're calling on
behalf of a dude named Ross. I guess you matched
with this guy on a dating app and then you
exchange numbers and we're talking about a date. Do you
remember this whole process?
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, Well, what happened because Ross reached out to us
and said that you guys, I guess matched and we're
chatting and then he got your number and then you
were on text talking about a date. You were planning
a date, and then you disappeared. So you kind of
ghosted him before you ever met, it seems like. And
he's curious and we're all curious kind of as to
why what happened.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
Okay, yeah, so basically, yeah, I mean, he seemed like
a great guy to me, but after a few days,
I just I realized he's just a lot, Like there's
no other.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Way to put it. He's just too much for me.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
What does that mean, how can you know that via tech?
Like I can see if you met someone and their
personality was over the top, or you know, you weren't vibing,
there was no in person chemistry, But how do you
know he's too much over text? Totally totally.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
So yeah, so I I did give him my number
because you know, he you know, it's it's just much
easier to communicate off the app.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
And I literally, like.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
The first night after I gave him my number, I
looked at my phone and I saw he was calling
me like around nine pm, and I was like, that's
a little that's a little bit much.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
We led with a phone call, which for a lot
of people these.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Days, yeah, stranger, you know, Like I don't So I answered,
I don't even know why, and he was like, you know,
just calling this sacod night, which okay, I thought was
odd and I'm.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Guessing about your laughs is also using.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
It's odd, Like it was odd for him to call
me in the first place, right, let alone at nine
pm just to say good night, and.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Like at this point we're still strangers, but you know,
I let it go and I was like, maybe he's
just super excited.
Speaker 8 (05:08):
For Saturday, like I'll chalk it up to.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
That and so yeah, so, but then he proceeded.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
To call me every single night to say good night
until Friday, until.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
The day before the date.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I mean he wanted to make sure you had a
good night, you know, like he did. You know, he
wanted to.
Speaker 8 (05:25):
Nine o'clock phone call is so scary, especially from a
stranger like.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Jury, and five nights in a row, like that's really extra.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
So I honestly the fifth time I let it go
to voicemail and I blocked him because I.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
Was just like, oh, this is the foot we're getting off,
you know, like this is not right.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
There's nobody in my life who wants me to have
that good of a night, like under any circumstances. I
kind of love it, and I only say that nightly
phone call from someone you've never met.
Speaker 9 (05:55):
Well, he didn't go bad yet with the date didn't happen,
So my only thing is like I think maybe he
was excited, but also like, we we don't call enough anymore.
I feel like in you're first dating, I don't think
we call enough. My husband, who I married, You did.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Not call your husband who you're married to is supposed
to be Yes, Okay. I wanted to be clear on
which husband we we're talking about, the one that you're
married to.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
Okay, yeah, so you know you did when did this happen?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I have a married woman.
Speaker 9 (06:23):
And your husband still feel like when we first started dating,
he did not call, and I didn't like that. If
you would have called prior to the day, I think
that'd be actually kind of cute.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Okay, So it was too much communication for you too
early on? It was like, what did it feel like
a little clingy maybe?
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Or yeah, it felt like yeah, over the top cleany.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, let me bring Ross in because this should be
no surprise you that Ross is on the call. He
wanted to see if we were having a good morning.
So Ross, you get your phone number and you just
think like, okay, that's that's my cue to start calling,
because I think a lot of people in this day
and age, they want even a text before they call,
before you call, even if you know them, like hey
you free, can we chat? You know, because people are
(07:02):
busy or they don't like to talk on the phone
as much anymore. But you didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
No, I mean, damn sorry. If I was interested, like
I mean, we've heard.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So much worse, Like this is not the worst thing.
You could not have answered the phone, Kelly. I suppose
if you didn't want to talk to him, you could
have just let her go to voicemail and maybe established
a boundary that way. But the dude, it's hard for
me not to see his side because it might have
been too much. But but how many men on the
dating apps, myself included, have done too little.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
I mean that's fair, But like, I think there's definitely
a lot of middle grounds between calling five times in
a row and not calling at all, Like one one call.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Would have been okay, just to be like, yes something.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I mean, I suppose Kelly, you could have said, hey,
you know, I'm not a phone talker or not answered
the phone. And I think after maybe a couple of
times of you not answering the phone, hopefully he would
have gotten it. It's not as though he was calling
you over and over and over and over again, right
like at in a single setting until you picked up.
You know, he was calling you at the end of
the day. Like I understand why that's not for everybody,
but I mean, we've heard so much worse.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
It'll be you know, you know, women always talking about
Oh I want a gentleman. I want someone, you know,
I want a man who's gonna who's gonna be proactive
and do more and make and so I'm doing that,
I'm calling and that's a turnoff. Then all right, cool,
I'll find someone that will, like, come.
Speaker 10 (08:28):
On, I just I mean listen, like I I guess
I appreciate like the sentiment, but like, being a gentleman
doesn't mean you call someone you just met late at
night multiple days in a row, you know, like again
one instance that would have been fine, but like five
times is not cool for me, Like especially like you
don't know what it's like as a woman to just
(08:49):
like receive calls from you know, it's just like it
instantly puts you in this like scary.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'll tell you what, I don't know what something. Yeah, yeah,
I'm scary, I think might I mean, I'm not here
to tell you how to feel. But I've had people
before say, like when I get their phone number before
I meet him, Hey do you want to do you
want to chat? And they're like, no, I'd rather wait
till we meet, like I'd rather or hey, I'm not
going to give you my number, like I'd rather just
meet and and and then if I'm comfortable with the date,
(09:17):
then I'll give you my number and then we can
go from there. I just think if this is something
that was important to you, or you were bothered by it,
I think if you had said something to him like, hey,
I'd rather not talk till the date, or I'm not
a big phone talker, or let's just chat on Friday
or whatever, and then he keeps calling, well, then he's
then I think he's he's gone. You know, he's broken
a boundary. But you didn't say that, So I think
(09:40):
it's hard for me to to not think maybe he's
just trying, which I feel like women do say all
the time. I wish the guy would try harder, except
in this case, you wish he hadn't tried hard, which
is kind of tough for a guy to know when
he's not supposed to try hard.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
I just didn't want to be I didn't want him
to misconstrue me as being rude, you know, and like
I wanted us to start off on the right foot
and like give him the benefit of the doubt. But
I also like, if I'm going to date someone, I
want them to like know without asking that calling somebody
five nights in a row when we're essentially strangers is
(10:15):
too much, Like that should just be.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Something that you should know. She didn't want to be
concerned as rude, so you just go to me come on, right?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I see aspects of both sides here. But look,
I'll ask the question, Kelly, do you want to you know,
hit reset here? Maybe and Ross won't call you until
the date. You guys can go on the date and
see if it works out. I mean, I think I
see where his intentions were, and I also think I
see why you were hoping he would sort of get
(10:43):
the drift. But do you want to try or no?
Speaker 8 (10:46):
I think that we're too far gone at this point.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Too far gone. She want a man that don't talk
to her at all, and I understand, but he didn't
talk enough. It's probably not gonna be great. So he
needs to talk the right amount, but not only talk
when I talk to you. Yeah, understood, understood? Yeah I
got him. Hey, Ross, Look, I don't think you're a
bad guy. I think, you know, maybe we got to
read the room a little bit here, But I can
also see the mixed message, or I can see why
(11:10):
you where you were thinking, and that you were trying.
And I'm sorry I didn't work out, but I wish
you guys both the best of luck.
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