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Was there something you used to get away with at school? Fred and the crew discuss!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
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thanks to Live Nation, all right, So I guess more
schools are cracking down on cell phones, which is not
surprising because they're distracting. And I can't imagine having gone
to school and everybody had a phone and the texting

(00:43):
and looking at you know, whatever you're looking at, and
not to mention all the social media distraction and TikTok
and everything else. I feel for the teachers, I really do.
And a lot of you listen to us, I know,
because it's like, as if it's not hard enough to
get them, I cad to pay attention. Now you've get
all these other things computers and iPads, and I stun
an old fart now, but like, honestly, we didn't have that.
I mean, it was like you had to either not

(01:04):
pay attention or pay attention. Those were your choices. And
then sometimes we get to the computer lab. Yeah, the
computer lab, which was a room with all the computers
in it. And for those who don't know what that is,
but then then that would you were supposed to use
a computer then.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
But then when you lab lab, no, I forgot it
was because.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
It was a laboratory. That's why. However, a lot of
schools have cell phone bands in place, I guess during
school hours, at least eighteen states to The goal is simple,
keep kids focused, but gen Z has found a clever
way around the rules. Instead of texting on their phones,
students are flocking to Google Docs, turning what was once
a boring writing tool into a digital chat room. Well

(01:42):
that's like Paulinis diary. We use Google Docs for Paulina diary.
She just writes down every single thing that she did
every day. Nice. Today's thought is I leveled maybe pants,
but I didn't write that down yet? No, yeah, okay,
well if you could get that on there immediately.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
She had her bowel movements for us. You know it's tomorrow.
Oh no, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Should you know? Hopefully only on Friday?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
No, I don't know every day, so come on, so
we do know.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yet, as a matter of fact, they do. That's not
even a joke. During class, groups of teens will open
a shared document and type back and forth, erasing and
editing in real time, much like Aol instant messenger chat
rooms that their parents once used in the two thousands.
How old are we? The workarounds spread quickly on TikTok,
where students show off their secret group chats hidden in

(02:29):
plain sight on school laptops. For them, it's not just rebellion,
it's a revival of Y two K era internet culture.
And not everyone is amused. Teachers and parents worry that
the hack could lead to cheating and bullying and more distraction.
This is dangerous to me because now you've got multiple
people's thoughts in the dock as if you know before.
Now this is going to sound really old timing, but

(02:51):
like in the nineties, you would write on paper and
pass the note on paper, and then a teacher might
grab it and read it and sometimes read it out loud.
But that would between two people and it was only
as much as you could put on a small, little,
tiny little corner of paper that you ripped. Now we're
going to have the whole narrative is going to be
in there.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
We were writing lists of our crushes and the teachers
got ahold of them. It was so embarrassing. But we
were ranking the boys like that we had crushes on yeah,
and they run them and oh no, it has to
be so fun. We used to rank the teachers, you know,
like cuteness. Why was the Spanish teacher always hot? Like
I don't know that's true?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
And hot?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
We had hot Spanish teachers had no, Yeah we did,
and you're right, yeah we did. Actually, but a five, five, five,
N one one or three five. I asked the question
before some of you guys got here, but it was
what do you remember a rule being in school that
you had to work around for? And I was thinking
about this because I don't I don't think we got
away with much in school. But there were there just

(03:49):
weren't many of us. That was the problem is I
graduated with forty two people. They were like, what does
that mean? There were one hundred and twenty kids in
the high school, Like they knew if you weren't there
because they could physically see, like they where's Christopher? Where
is he? You know, because there were like ten people
in every class. I mean, so if you weren't there,
you know you didn't Now college was different. I mean
the professor would really have no idea if you were

(04:12):
were not attending at all. But what comes to Mike,
because you said you knew you thought of some right away?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh yeah, I was great in high school?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
So what was it? What were the work erunds? And
I want to know from you guys, so you can
call in text the same number.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
When I got a car, I used to drive myself
to school, but I would stop and get a little
breakfast from McDonald's first, and I would always be late.
So what I would do is call ahead as my
parent and say, hey, Kiki is going to be late today.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Now can I can? I ask an insensitive question? Do
they know your parent was dead? Well?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, they have a guardian.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Okay, I wasn't just id I didn't know if they
didn't get the message. You know, they didn't get the
message on the street. So you were able to use
your mom's name and.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Said she was calling to let you know she's going
to be late.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
No, hold on a second, now, now, now, Kiki that
that would have been kind of a hack because like,
if the school hadn't known, you could have signed everything. No,
you could, You could have gotten away with this. How
come she never comes to any of her activities.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
No, I was using my sister's name, but I would
call it.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
So you were doing the same thing. You were just
using a person who was funny.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yes, And you know I would sign myself in every time.
And kids, this is going to sound really old, but
when we first got cell phones, they were really thin
raizor phones and I used to hide it in between
my textbook. The textbook is a really big book we
had to carry around, right.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I love that we had to explain it. Do they
even And this is gonna make me sound even more
old timey. I don't mean to, but I don't have kids,
so I have no reference. Do they even have books anymore?
Is everything on the iPad or computer?

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Like?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Do you? Because I remember we had to go and
this was in the two thousands, We had to go
to the bookstore and we had to there was there
was you'd go there like on the week before school
started and they're the teachers. There was like a list
of all the books you needed for every class and
I was probably like five hundred dollars. I have no
idea how much. And my mom had to buy all

(06:01):
the books and we'd carry out just boxes and books
from the bookstore. You know. It was like, my God.
And then you could sell the books back at the
end of the day that part and then you could
you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
You didn't give your mom the money, did you No?
I also paved for my own books O me and
me my fast flood check. But then at the end
of the year whatever, I'm over here standing like, wh
wants a book? I got it for cheaper.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, but then do just everybody? Then everyone can afford
an iPad then, because I mean those are expensive, so
I mean, if you can't, but I realized the iPad
could gets you through, you know, potentially all of high
school or all of whatever. But but you know that's
a thousand plus dollars one time, and then you did
you just download all the books? Is that how it worked?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think?

Speaker 4 (06:42):
So they're given the kids think pads and iPads now.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Oh oh think they give us thinks? Yeah, same thing.
We're just like school, so I hate carry hi Hi carry.
So that you used to pass notes in school, well,
we would have a notebook.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
And it would just go pretty much from old to
girl and you would just.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Pass it around during the day or during the week, and.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
It was all there. And then oh god, that sounds
get caught.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, that sounds really dangerous that like, you know, you've
you've got volumes of people's thoughts in there.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yes, yes, it got pretty bad for a while there,
but it was fun.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Do you still have any of those notebooks? Because that
would be really interesting, I think to go back, like
if you I found a note or a yearbook from
high school at my house last time I was there,
and I read the things that people wrote in there,
and most of it was like, you know, have a
great summer, so you know, you know I need this
teazy stuff. Yeah whatever, But it was like, oh, man,
you know, I think Becky wrote a heart on it.

(07:40):
I could never get Becky never get with me though,
so why did you write a heart in there? But
I mean that would be funny to go beck and
read it. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
One of my friends has them, so we've gone back
and watched or read them.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
But yeah, okay, it was wild, okay, fair enough, thank
you Carrie, having good day, Okay. So you would sign
yourself in and out, absolutely, and then what else would
come to me?

Speaker 4 (08:02):
I have my phone in my textbook. And then I
was a class president, so I abuse that tremendously. So
every time I would be in the hallway roaming, They're like,
what class are you supposed to be and I'm like, oh,
I'm doing something for student council and I would just
walk past, like oh.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
We used to do that with basketball because we'd have
to leave early to go to like away games, and
so we but apparently we had to leave like two
hours before the early right because we had to, you know,
and we were terrible. But it was like, oh yeah
we got we gotta film study. Oh yeah, we gotta
go stretch out or whatever. It's like, no, you don't,
and the teachers are like, it doesn't matter what you do,
you're not gonna win, but okay, go ahead. It's like
we were so bad.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
We were bad.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, but we used to do stuff like that. Oh yeah, yeah,
we got it. Hey, yeah, but it's noon. The game
is at seven o'clock times. Yeah, I know, but we
got to get going because we got to get on
the bus and it's at least forty five minutes away,
which is that's gonna take it forty five minutes. Hey Jenna, Hey,
good morning. Hi. So how did you get around the
rules at school?

Speaker 2 (08:59):
So?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I would pretend that I was sick, and I would
go to the bathroom and put my head onto the
hand dryer for a little bit, and then I would
go to the nurse's office and tell her that I
don't feel good. She would always put her hand on
her head first before she touched that temperature, and then
she would call have a plaid out, and then she'd
call home.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Why so large, exam, That is brilliant. I would always
just put my hand on my head and try and
make my head warm, thinking that somehow that would make
my temperature grow up like but usually they would feel
your head and then they'd stick at their mammady in
your mouth, you know, to see, and then you would
be like normal because that thing didn't work what you
just did to your head.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
That's smart. The d n.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, oh my gosh, she's so hot. And then the
problem is I say, oh my gosh, she's so hot,
Like we're going to hospital. I just stuck my head
in anything. Never mind, that's smart yet you always know.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
For filling my head first. And I had five siblings.
I'd like you guys want to get out of school
to go to that.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I like it. I like it. Thank you, Jenna, I
have a good day.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Uh you got it. My kindergartener, someone texted, has a
chrome book. It weighs half as much as he does
and he has to bring it home every day. Your
kindergartener has a chromebook. What do you like?

Speaker 4 (10:11):
They come out of the womb knowing how to use
the phones.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, they're creepy, like yeah, no one has talked them.
They just know that's true.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
All the books are digital, and so is the syllabus
and study peck. You have to pay for all of it.
It's still very expensive. Well, yeah, you know, they didn't
get around that. You know, they didn't get around making
money on this, Like, even though they don't have to
print it anymore, you know, they didn't get around that.
They're still making money on this stuff. I went back
to college at the age of twenty seven now and
everything is online. Six e books. I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Wow, that's so interesting because when my sister broke her wrist,
she was kind of screwed because she still wrote a
lot of stuff down, So I wonder what she was writing.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Then. What the kids must not know is that most
teachers have access to what the students are doing. I
can see what every student's doing on their chromebook. I
can close out of tabs, I can look at their
open docs and try the history of everything that they've typed.
This heck is not so sneaky or effective. So you
had crazy You went to Catholic school, so you had
crazy rules. Jason.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Yeah, it was more like how you get around, like
the uniform rules, because like your hair, like for guys
couldn't be touching your ears, like they had to be
shorter than that. So we would like tuck our hair
like behind our ears so that when it would always
be the lunch line. So when everyone was lining up
for lunchline, they would check to make sure that every
piece of your uniform like like was according to code.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Like you'd have a belt on every day, so like
thank goodness, I know, thank God.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
So I would like untuck my shirt a lot, so
it would sort of like fold over so you couldn't
see my but I wanted to wear slide, so I
made sure that, like my pants were long enough so
that you couldn't see that. I didn't have a back
of my shoe because that was part of the uniform.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Like it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Wow, Yeah, you were so sneaky slides right and everything
right according to Jason, But it turns out you were
a miscreant. It turns out that you were just constantly breaking.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
The rules with a guilt somehow still got in. Well,
you know, that's sure.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
And my mom went to Catholic school, like been the
what I guess would have been the sixties. Uh, yeah,
I guess it was the sixties and they were nuns
were like mean to her. It was nuns and they
were mean to her. They were very mean. I think
they had rulers and you know all kinds. It was
a different time. Yeah, yeah, it was a whole different time. Now. Yeah,
everyone's got a chromebook. I guess you're right. You would

(12:30):
think that that would make everything less expensive, but apparently no, No,
they got to work around for that too.

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