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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Guys, has been a minute since we did the tang
You ready for a little tang rh for a little
tan a little tang time? What's doing here? Comes to Tangent?
It's the Tangent with the fread show.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Giving me all the we couldn't talk about on air.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
All right, guys, we haven't done a Tangent in a
couple of weeks. We've been a little bit busy. But
I thought maybe we would address a few updates about
the show. Because if you're listening to this, then you're
like a big time listener, right, if you're listening to
the Tangent, then you're like a big fan. You are
truly one of the thirteen. Yeah, exactly, and so they
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here's the funny part. I'll get a little inside radio
for you. So the show got syndicated, if you don't know,
which means nothing in Chicago. It really doesn't because we
didn't change anything and we're not changing anything, which means
people in other cities get to hear about Chicago and
whatever else. But you know, we talk about all kinds
of stuff, right Like, we talk about a whole variety
of different things, So it shouldn't be a big deal.
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But At first they said, don't tell anyone that we
did this, and then it was no, tell every one
that we did this and celebrate it. And then after
we did that, it was certain people going, well, don't
tell anyone that we did this, and I'm like, so okay,
but I will say as soon as we said that
we did this, and then we changed the little voice
guy around. Then people started claiming to hear changes in
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the show that don't exist. So I guess I understand
why there were some people saying, don't talk about it,
because it's almost like you're saying, here's a change, and
then they hear a change that it really isn't there.
We like, for example, people are saying that they think
they're hearing more commercials now. So the amount of commercials
that we were playing are exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
That we've always played.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
We moved them by a couple of minutes, and we
actually at one point Ruvio we took out early in
the show. We took an entire commercial breakout that is correct,
and so we actually got rid of some commercials. But
I think what's happening is that people have been, you know,
for years. They get in their car at the same time,
and now they hear something different at that time, and
so they perceive that we've changed this show. But here's
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a little more inside radio for you. Is that what
we've done for years is we put all the commercials together,
which means a longer commercial break. But then, if you notice,
we go anywhere from thirty five to fifty minutes without
taking a commercial break. Other shows will take three commercial
breaks in that same period of time. Now the commercial
breaks are shorter, but they're stopping down more. We thought,
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screw it, you know what. We know that people don't
love commercials, so we're gonna play all of them at
once and then there'll be more time without them. And
that seems to have served us well and people seem
to like that. But for whatever reason, that's one complaint
that we've gotten from a few people is that it
feels like we're playing more commercials which were not. So
that's one. What else have we heard? Oh, they don't
like this. Some people don't like the voice guy. Well
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he changed the voice guy.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Okay, so Kiki Kiki's still protesting. Let me introduce you lady.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Well, you know, I tried to ride for my girl,
but now I find myself on the weekend saying.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You better wake up. Yeah, wake up. I wait, we see,
it's just like it now. I just feel like we
people just need to get used to the change. But yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I mean, at the same time, we had ed Sheeran
on last week, which we wouldn't have gotten otherwise. So
it's just it's we're trying to do a better show
and improve it in some ways. In other ways, people
think they're hearing different things and they're not really.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But I understand.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
You know, nobody likes change, and people are perceiving that
we've changed. But ultimately the truth of it is this
gives us a chance to grow. But we can't change anything.
And we're not changing anything about the way that we've
done things for years because it got us as far.
And ultimately, we want the people in Chicago to be
happy because you've supported us for thirteen years and without
that success and we don't get to we don't get
to expand the show. And it gives the people in
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this room an opportunity to grow. Really, it's not like
quote unquote Big Time. It's kind to be really honest
with you, it's really kind of like quote unquote survival
in a lot of ways. I mean, I think we unfortunately,
we're we're in a very competitive environment where there's a
lot to listen to and people aren't necessarily coming to
the radio as much as they might. They are for
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us luckily fortunately knock on wood. But you know, this
is how we we kind of have to do this
to expand our audience so that we can hopefully stay
around longer because unfortunately, doing this business the same way
that we've done for years, it is not necessarily the
right business strategy, you know, for the long term success
of the show. So it's kind of something that we
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have to do when given the opportunity. Not to me me,
it's good for everybody in the room, but like, this
is how we last another ten twenty years in my opinion.
I hope I'm right. But anyway, any other thing, what
else are we hearing anything? I mean, And there's a
lot of good stuff too. A lot of people are like, oh,
you know, same old show, you know whatever, and we've
changed other things and you know, technically that I think
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make the show sound a little bit better. But I
don't know what else are people saying? Any other questions?
I can address in this podcast. I'm not supposed to
talk about this stuff, but if you're a big time
listener of the show, then you deserve an explanation, and
here it is.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
While we're on it, can we address the days in
which we play old waitings and why we do that,
and the days in which we play new ones?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So this is, by the way, this has always been
this way. It's been this way for like a decade. Yes,
but we still here Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
We do brand new waiting metaphones unless we're on vacation,
and then even then sometimes we give you a new
one that we do ahead of time because they are
pre recorded. Because people, That's another one. It's like, how
do people always We could do a whole podcast on
that people always answer the phone?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
This must be bullshit.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm like, no, we record them, because how anti climactic
would it be if every time we try and call
someone they say, I don't know this number. I'm not
answering it.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Right, right, we don't air the bad ones, guys, right,
why would we?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But Monday, Wednesday Friday at seven something or eight something,
depending on where you're listening, we play a new Waiting
by the Phone Tuesday Thursday, in a different hour, we
play a Waiting by the Phone that people seem to like,
we hang on to. We sort of earmark and set
aside the ones because sometimes we get a big reaction
from some sometimes we don't, and so those seem to
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gonna go away, and the ones that people like we keep.
And you'll also have to remember that not everybody hears
everything all the time. So you might be a hardcourt
listener who's heard every wading on the phone, and God
bless you for that.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But where there's two schools of thought.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
One is maybe it was funny enough that you'd want
to hear it again, and the other thing is maybe
somebody had never heard it, and so why would we
take something. I mean, it's like a rerun of a
TV show. You know, you're annoyed if you love the
TV show, but if you've never seen the show, you're
you're happy that you could catch up. Right, that's the
school of thought on that. There's just a lot of
stuff that goes on that, trust me, we've thought long
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and hard about. We just don't necessarily explain it because
who cares.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yes, I mean, I'm gonna cough.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Oh, you're gonna cough. Yeah, So you know.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I've had the same cold for ten days. I don't
know how to get rid of it. Yeah, are you like,
are you licking my duncan cup? Or something like?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Why do I? Why am I?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, I'm way better than I was a week ago,
But why am I still not well?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I got a vitamin seed drip, I got a Gatorade drip.
I got a suit a fed drip.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You haven't used the vapor rub that I gave you?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh? The wicks, the wicks.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, I haven't get outside, Freddy need to get outside,
get outside of the park, the apartment, your your place is.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Probably to work this morning, did you No? I didn't
think so okay place.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Is making him sick?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, because he's he's sick there at home, and you
know all the germs are confined in there.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
You've got to get outside, open up a window.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Maybe I shouldn't come to work either then, because I
may there may be some germs in this room.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Kiki.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Hey, well, you know he had a thugget out sometime.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I did.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I was really sick last week, and but I discussed
it with you all, and we agreed that we would
expose that you would be exposed to my sickness so
that we didn't have to take days off work because
that wouldn't have been good. I'm gonna cough again, Okay, okay,
you here, I do turn my head away, you know,
so it's not that that's gonna it's not really gonna
help anything.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Comments. We're not worried about your germs, are you?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I worry about other people's well being idea? What were
you saying?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
So it was kind?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh yeah, good? And then Calen, you were next. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Oh, I was just going to move the conversation along,
but if you want to talk.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Oh you were done talking about my sickness. Well I
just get because I want to get into more of
my sickness.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Okay, let's talk it. What are your symptoms?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Don't I really don't you know? Move the please move
the conversation.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Tell me about it. Where does it hurt.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
In my heart? And it hurts my hearty? Where did
you want to move the conversation to? Though, I'm fine
with it.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I was just going to also talk about or reiterate,
we don't pick the music.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh yeah, we don't. We don't pick the.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Music, so I know, we get you know, some people
love our music. Some people ask why we play certain
songs more than others, and it is not. We are
not taking an ogs chord and plugging our phone into
the computer to play our music.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
No, no, And that's the thing is, like you got
to want to and I'm sure anywhere that you work,
wherever you're listening that you you can appreciate. But like
we have to, we have to respond to the bulk
of the complaints, right like we can't unfortunately, cater the
show to each individual person. So like the bulk of
the complaints that we got and the research and we
do a lot of focus research too, was that we
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people were listening for a lot longer than normal, which
is great, yeh, thank you, because they programmed the radio
station based on the average amount of time that most
people listen all day, but our show people listen about
twice that much, which is amazing, thank you. But unfortunately,
what that means is sometimes you hear the same song
again because they didn't necessarily think that people would be
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here for two or three hours at a time, which,
thank you, and continue to do that. So then what
we did was we added some some other songs to
add some variety because enough people said that we were
playing the same songs and then now people don't like
some people don't like the variety, and I'm like, well.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Guys, we're doing our best here.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I mean, we honestly try and do our best to
make the best decisions for the for the using the
information that we have available, you know. But like, we're
not going to make everybody happy, and trust me, it
drives me crazy because I want everyone to be happy,
but we can't do it. But I just well, again,
they'll probably yell at me for talking about all this
inside radio stuff. But again, if you're listening to this,
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then you are really a fan and we appreciate you
for that. But I also think, like those are the explanations,
Like there is a method to the madness.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I promise I'm trying to think. What.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Oh, you know, what people think a lot is that
Fred is all of our boss like technically, and you
are our leader, you are our captain. But when people
are like, tell Fred to give you a day off,
I'm like, I wish that he controlled my days.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Thank you for that, because I have no.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Say tell Fred to pay you more. I wish that
Fred was the one who made that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Decision, because I would thank you and I would pay everybody.
Trust me.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, everybody would have all the days off they want,
and everyone would make as much money as they wanted.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
To know. I am not the boss.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I am the leader, but there is someone above all
of us who makes those decisions, and I don't have
anything to do with it.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So yeah, anyway, thank you for clarifying that. Of course,
if it were up to me, trust me, this place
should be broken. You'd have all the money.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Oh my god, I would be kissing your ass so hard.
If you just had a days off.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Oh my god, that would be great.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Good morning Handsome.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I would And who.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Wouldn't want more of that? I certainly would like it. Yeah,
Rufio would just ask for more. He wouldn't kiss my ass.
You'd be like, I need another week?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
What you need done?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Fred? What you need done?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh okay?
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Would you do anything to keep your shift?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Right? Who wow, I'll let you take this one. I
like to watch that.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Oh that's going to cost.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You to.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You needs some Taylor Swift tickets for eBay? Can I
can I address that? By the way, I don't have
Taylor Swift tickets. And if for some reason I wind
up at Taylor Swift show, it's not because I took
Taylor Swift tickets that were allocated for anybody. It's because
I was asked to be there for business purposes, which
I think might happen.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
But you know what, I'm serious.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Though, I have a meeting.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But if you asked me, well, Jason can verify this.
I was actually asked to go buy the label. Yeah
you were so you no, And I think that's I
think that's because they want to They want us to
be able to talk about it, right. But the truth is,
if you know anything about me, I like Taylor, but
if you know anything about me, if it were up
to me, I would take those tickets and give him
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like Ronald McDonald house or something. And I would not
attend a Taylor Swift show with seventy thousand people at
Soldier Field.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I wouldn't. Who's your plus one? I don't know whoever,
I cat, whoever who selling? That's how you do it?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Ye looking great today?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, why you're in, aren't you? I thought you were
hooked up, you know, but not access to But it
doesn't mean anything this time. It used to mean that
there was a whole dog and pony show and you'd
meet Taylor and the whole thing. But I thought maybe
they were lying to us because they wanted to surprise
you too.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I thought maybe.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
There is one no, because we I don't know if
you guys know this, but behind the scenes, believe it
or not, Jason and Are James and I lobby hard
so that you guys could could meet them. Oh, thank you,
and we wanted to surprise you with that. And I
wanted to be present because I wanted to be there
to resuscitate Cane, and physically I wanted because I'm I'm
her emergency contact, so I wanted to be there when
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the paramedics wheel her out and stuff, and like, you know, but.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Hey, better not wheel me out, Wheel me right into
my seat so I can watch the show.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But the reason I'm pretty darn sure there's no surprise
is because in previous times where I've met Taylor, there
was a there was a background, there was a full investment,
like you had to send a headshot, you had to
a picture of your I d Yeah, there was a
whole bunch of ship you had to do before you
could meet her, and none of that's happening. And I'm
also not seeing cheesy industry pictures from other cities, and
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you'd be seeing a lot of that, a lot of
like you know, Joe Blow and the Joe Blow, the
Big the Mayor, the Morning Mayor, you know from wherever,
Big Diggling on w BALLS.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
That's my favorite on.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You never heard of w J We're trying to get
that as an affiliate. Yeah, we're trying. Trust me. As
soon as I heard it, I'm like, we want WGS
right now we are the Morning The Morning Mayor is
on WGS. I think that one's we can't have that
one though. We can't have all the nice things, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I think of the merch Man, the Fred Show on Jeez.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
In the Morning. Man. I love improv.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
That's another thing is if you haven't noticed, guys, we
play an improv game on this show. And I'm not
saying any of us should be at Second City, maybe Klin,
but sometimes we wind up in a place we didn't
mean to go, and that's called yes and and that's
what happens, and so you know it. Trust me, if
you if you're offended by the direction of a segment goes.
I can promise you we didn't mean for it to
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go there, more than likely unless you're offended by w GS,
in which case you're approved and it's called the tangent and.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Fuck it, fuck it. Yeah. Anything else that we can
address on this thing, just we can. You know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I want to make sure that everyone feels heard and
that we that we do read your feedback, good and bad.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I think what else we hear a lot?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I want to apologize for what happened on Monday. There's
a lot of it on Monday.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You mean, when the elevator music was playing during commercials,
during a song, during Oh my god, I'm sorry. It
was probably the worst day of my career, and you
all witness it. And I'm not being dramatic, like there's
there was literally nothing we could do, yes, Like the
thing just frows and we're just standing there watching this happen.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Like what am I supposed to have no clue where
this elevator music came from?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
But we do now, and we've worked it out and
we apologize for what happened on Monday.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
I was flying home with like the most anxiety ever,
and then I saw your tweet friend and I'm like, oh,
dear god, what has happened?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah it was as good. It was as good as
you can imagine, and better even.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah, you handled it well though, you guys did. I
thought you were going to explode at one point in
to pieces D.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I really did. I'm like, something's gonna happen to this man.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I used to like freak out, and I don't know.
I guess I'm just older and mature or well medicated
or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
But I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I don't freak out anymore. I wasn't happy, but like
I used to, like, you know, I would be very expressive.
I'd be like yelling and stuff. But that doesn't do
any good.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
That's gross.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah. Yeah, Rufio did all the yelling at ues I did.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He lost his ship and I'm in the meantime just
going to make it stop.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
What were you yelling?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
What what did you think?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
What?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Button was?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Like?
Speaker 5 (16:39):
What you know?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
How this is? There's gotta be a stop. There's no
way to stop it. It's again, there was literally nothing
we could do.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, it was crazy. It was a crazy thing.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
But anyway, also Fred is happy and contend in his life.
And being single.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Oh yeah, we do, and so was Kaelin for that matter.
I don't know if you're single or what you are.
I never really know are we single? Are we not single?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
We're single?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Okay, we're single?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Because sometimes yeah, sometimes sometimes dude, like like sometimes dude
from the Geriatric Bachelor come along and they and they
you date them, and then we don't hear about it
until it's over.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
No, I talked about I talked about the last guy
I dated a little. Yeah, I mean I just like,
what do you want me to say their government name
and there?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I mean that would be helpful for the fund the.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Situation with the X and the you stalking that dude?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
What do you mean, what's the situation? Did you know
if he was hooking up with someone else?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You were using your sister's Instagram to stalk another woman
who then caught you doing it.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yeah, then followed my sister and then we had ourselves
a little mess.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And then was there any any anything come off that?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
No?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
I like, I like hopefully caught it before my sister
and then like deleted her off of there. But no,
there was nothing that came from it. I never found
out whether they were banging or not.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Who cares well she does? Yeah, I do. I don't
want them to.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I don't want them to be binging.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But you moved on.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
No, No, I wouldn't be checking. Yeah, I wouldn't be checking.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
If I moved on.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, But sometimes you move on and you know what's right.
But then you your curiosity gets the best of me.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That's me.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Yeah. I think it was more life circumstance why we
didn't work out. So I think that's harder when things
don't work out because of something other than someone doing
something bad.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I see, I see, yeah, because I know the right answer.
Like when I go back and look at an X
on Instagram and see them happy with somebody else. I
in that moment, I forget why we're not together. But then,
you know, thirty minutes later, I'm like, oh, well, I'm
glad that person's happy, but it didn't work out with
us for a reason. Yeah, but I still have a
morbid curiosity to see what they're up to.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah. I mean we do tend to look back at
things and forget the bad and like romanticize them if
they're a lot farther in our past.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But yeah, but I could argue that I would feel
better if a girl I used to date winds up
with like Brad Pitt, you know, and I'm like I'm
just or just whatever, and somebody who's like really really
good looking, I would be like, okay, you know I
can see it.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
That would make me feel way worse.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Why though, because it's like they're they're like way out there,
you know what I mean, Like if if because.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
I would feel like she was better than me, and
I'd be really.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
You'd rather it's an inferior person because I would be like,
what do you think of me?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
No, I'm like hell yeah, everybody's talking and yeah yes.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
But so at first I have you have the moment
of like, oh, you're messing up the brand like that, right,
you know what I'm saying, Like you could do better? Right,
what are you doing? But then it's kind of like, oh,
actually you can't do I'm best. Yeah, well there you haven't.
I think I feel the other way.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I think i'd rather that the person be like understandably
better than me, because it's like, Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
No one's better than you, they're just a different Oh.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
There are there, they are, there are people better there. Yeah,
for sure, thanks for listening to the tangent. Everyone subscribe
and tell your friends and uh and listen to the
podcast too, or any part of the show you may
have missed. On the iHeartRadio app search for the Fred Show.
Have a good day, everyone,
Guys, has been a minute since we did the tang
You ready for a little tang rh for a little
tan a little tang time? What's doing here? Comes to Tangent?
It's the Tangent with the fread show.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Giving me all the we couldn't talk about on air.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
All right, guys, we haven't done a Tangent in a
couple of weeks. We've been a little bit busy. But
I thought maybe we would address a few updates about
the show. Because if you're listening to this, then you're
like a big time listener, right, if you're listening to
the Tangent, then you're like a big fan. You are
truly one of the thirteen. Yeah, exactly, and so they
(00:33):
here's the funny part. I'll get a little inside radio
for you. So the show got syndicated, if you don't know,
which means nothing in Chicago. It really doesn't because we
didn't change anything and we're not changing anything, which means
people in other cities get to hear about Chicago and
whatever else. But you know, we talk about all kinds
of stuff, right Like, we talk about a whole variety
of different things, So it shouldn't be a big deal.
(00:55):
But At first they said, don't tell anyone that we
did this, and then it was no, tell every one
that we did this and celebrate it. And then after
we did that, it was certain people going, well, don't
tell anyone that we did this, and I'm like, so okay,
but I will say as soon as we said that
we did this, and then we changed the little voice
guy around. Then people started claiming to hear changes in
(01:16):
the show that don't exist. So I guess I understand
why there were some people saying, don't talk about it,
because it's almost like you're saying, here's a change, and
then they hear a change that it really isn't there.
We like, for example, people are saying that they think
they're hearing more commercials now. So the amount of commercials
that we were playing are exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
That we've always played.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
We moved them by a couple of minutes, and we
actually at one point Ruvio we took out early in
the show. We took an entire commercial breakout that is correct,
and so we actually got rid of some commercials. But
I think what's happening is that people have been, you know,
for years. They get in their car at the same time,
and now they hear something different at that time, and
so they perceive that we've changed this show. But here's
(02:02):
a little more inside radio for you. Is that what
we've done for years is we put all the commercials together,
which means a longer commercial break. But then, if you notice,
we go anywhere from thirty five to fifty minutes without
taking a commercial break. Other shows will take three commercial
breaks in that same period of time. Now the commercial
breaks are shorter, but they're stopping down more. We thought,
(02:24):
screw it, you know what. We know that people don't
love commercials, so we're gonna play all of them at
once and then there'll be more time without them. And
that seems to have served us well and people seem
to like that. But for whatever reason, that's one complaint
that we've gotten from a few people is that it
feels like we're playing more commercials which were not. So
that's one. What else have we heard? Oh, they don't
like this. Some people don't like the voice guy. Well
(02:45):
he changed the voice guy.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Okay, so Kiki Kiki's still protesting. Let me introduce you lady.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Well, you know, I tried to ride for my girl,
but now I find myself on the weekend saying.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You better wake up. Yeah, wake up. I wait, we see,
it's just like it now. I just feel like we
people just need to get used to the change. But yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I mean, at the same time, we had ed Sheeran
on last week, which we wouldn't have gotten otherwise. So
it's just it's we're trying to do a better show
and improve it in some ways. In other ways, people
think they're hearing different things and they're not really.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But I understand.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
You know, nobody likes change, and people are perceiving that
we've changed. But ultimately the truth of it is this
gives us a chance to grow. But we can't change anything.
And we're not changing anything about the way that we've
done things for years because it got us as far.
And ultimately, we want the people in Chicago to be
happy because you've supported us for thirteen years and without
that success and we don't get to we don't get
to expand the show. And it gives the people in
(03:42):
this room an opportunity to grow. Really, it's not like
quote unquote Big Time. It's kind to be really honest
with you, it's really kind of like quote unquote survival
in a lot of ways. I mean, I think we unfortunately,
we're we're in a very competitive environment where there's a
lot to listen to and people aren't necessarily coming to
the radio as much as they might. They are for
(04:04):
us luckily fortunately knock on wood. But you know, this
is how we we kind of have to do this
to expand our audience so that we can hopefully stay
around longer because unfortunately, doing this business the same way
that we've done for years, it is not necessarily the
right business strategy, you know, for the long term success
of the show. So it's kind of something that we
(04:25):
have to do when given the opportunity. Not to me me,
it's good for everybody in the room, but like, this
is how we last another ten twenty years in my opinion.
I hope I'm right. But anyway, any other thing, what
else are we hearing anything? I mean, And there's a
lot of good stuff too. A lot of people are like, oh,
you know, same old show, you know whatever, and we've
changed other things and you know, technically that I think
(04:45):
make the show sound a little bit better. But I
don't know what else are people saying? Any other questions?
I can address in this podcast. I'm not supposed to
talk about this stuff, but if you're a big time
listener of the show, then you deserve an explanation, and
here it is.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
While we're on it, can we address the days in
which we play old waitings and why we do that,
and the days in which we play new ones?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So this is, by the way, this has always been
this way. It's been this way for like a decade. Yes,
but we still here Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
We do brand new waiting metaphones unless we're on vacation,
and then even then sometimes we give you a new
one that we do ahead of time because they are
pre recorded. Because people, That's another one. It's like, how
do people always We could do a whole podcast on
that people always answer the phone?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
This must be bullshit.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm like, no, we record them, because how anti climactic
would it be if every time we try and call
someone they say, I don't know this number. I'm not
answering it.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Right, right, we don't air the bad ones, guys, right,
why would we?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But Monday, Wednesday Friday at seven something or eight something,
depending on where you're listening, we play a new Waiting
by the Phone Tuesday Thursday, in a different hour, we
play a Waiting by the Phone that people seem to like,
we hang on to. We sort of earmark and set
aside the ones because sometimes we get a big reaction
from some sometimes we don't, and so those seem to
(05:57):
gonna go away, and the ones that people like we keep.
And you'll also have to remember that not everybody hears
everything all the time. So you might be a hardcourt
listener who's heard every wading on the phone, and God
bless you for that.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But where there's two schools of thought.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
One is maybe it was funny enough that you'd want
to hear it again, and the other thing is maybe
somebody had never heard it, and so why would we
take something. I mean, it's like a rerun of a
TV show. You know, you're annoyed if you love the
TV show, but if you've never seen the show, you're
you're happy that you could catch up. Right, that's the
school of thought on that. There's just a lot of
stuff that goes on that, trust me, we've thought long
(06:31):
and hard about. We just don't necessarily explain it because
who cares.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yes, I mean, I'm gonna cough.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Oh, you're gonna cough. Yeah, So you know.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I've had the same cold for ten days. I don't
know how to get rid of it. Yeah, are you like,
are you licking my duncan cup? Or something like?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Why do I? Why am I?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, I'm way better than I was a week ago,
But why am I still not well?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I got a vitamin seed drip, I got a Gatorade drip.
I got a suit a fed drip.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You haven't used the vapor rub that I gave you?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh? The wicks, the wicks.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, I haven't get outside, Freddy need to get outside,
get outside of the park, the apartment, your your place is.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Probably to work this morning, did you No? I didn't
think so okay place.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Is making him sick?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, because he's he's sick there at home, and you
know all the germs are confined in there.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
You've got to get outside, open up a window.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Maybe I shouldn't come to work either then, because I
may there may be some germs in this room.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Kiki.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Hey, well, you know he had a thugget out sometime.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I did.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I was really sick last week, and but I discussed
it with you all, and we agreed that we would
expose that you would be exposed to my sickness so
that we didn't have to take days off work because
that wouldn't have been good. I'm gonna cough again, Okay, okay,
you here, I do turn my head away, you know,
so it's not that that's gonna it's not really gonna
help anything.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Comments. We're not worried about your germs, are you?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I worry about other people's well being idea? What were
you saying?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
So it was kind?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh yeah, good? And then Calen, you were next. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Oh, I was just going to move the conversation along,
but if you want to talk.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Oh you were done talking about my sickness. Well I
just get because I want to get into more of
my sickness.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Okay, let's talk it. What are your symptoms?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Don't I really don't you know? Move the please move
the conversation.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Tell me about it. Where does it hurt.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
In my heart? And it hurts my hearty? Where did
you want to move the conversation to? Though, I'm fine
with it.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I was just going to also talk about or reiterate,
we don't pick the music.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh yeah, we don't. We don't pick the.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Music, so I know, we get you know, some people
love our music. Some people ask why we play certain
songs more than others, and it is not. We are
not taking an ogs chord and plugging our phone into
the computer to play our music.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
No, no, And that's the thing is, like you got
to want to and I'm sure anywhere that you work,
wherever you're listening that you you can appreciate. But like
we have to, we have to respond to the bulk
of the complaints, right like we can't unfortunately, cater the
show to each individual person. So like the bulk of
the complaints that we got and the research and we
do a lot of focus research too, was that we
(09:04):
people were listening for a lot longer than normal, which
is great, yeh, thank you, because they programmed the radio
station based on the average amount of time that most
people listen all day, but our show people listen about
twice that much, which is amazing, thank you. But unfortunately,
what that means is sometimes you hear the same song
again because they didn't necessarily think that people would be
(09:25):
here for two or three hours at a time, which,
thank you, and continue to do that. So then what
we did was we added some some other songs to
add some variety because enough people said that we were
playing the same songs and then now people don't like
some people don't like the variety, and I'm like, well.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Guys, we're doing our best here.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I mean, we honestly try and do our best to
make the best decisions for the for the using the
information that we have available, you know. But like, we're
not going to make everybody happy, and trust me, it
drives me crazy because I want everyone to be happy,
but we can't do it. But I just well, again,
they'll probably yell at me for talking about all this
inside radio stuff. But again, if you're listening to this,
(10:04):
then you are really a fan and we appreciate you
for that. But I also think, like those are the explanations,
Like there is a method to the madness.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I promise I'm trying to think. What.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Oh, you know, what people think a lot is that
Fred is all of our boss like technically, and you
are our leader, you are our captain. But when people
are like, tell Fred to give you a day off,
I'm like, I wish that he controlled my days.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Thank you for that, because I have no.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Say tell Fred to pay you more. I wish that
Fred was the one who made that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Decision, because I would thank you and I would pay everybody.
Trust me.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, everybody would have all the days off they want,
and everyone would make as much money as they wanted.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
To know. I am not the boss.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I am the leader, but there is someone above all
of us who makes those decisions, and I don't have
anything to do with it.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So yeah, anyway, thank you for clarifying that. Of course,
if it were up to me, trust me, this place
should be broken. You'd have all the money.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Oh my god, I would be kissing your ass so hard.
If you just had a days off.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Oh my god, that would be great.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Good morning Handsome.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I would And who.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Wouldn't want more of that? I certainly would like it. Yeah,
Rufio would just ask for more. He wouldn't kiss my ass.
You'd be like, I need another week?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
What you need done?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Fred? What you need done?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh okay?
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Would you do anything to keep your shift?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Right? Who wow, I'll let you take this one. I
like to watch that.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Oh that's going to cost.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You to.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You needs some Taylor Swift tickets for eBay? Can I
can I address that? By the way, I don't have
Taylor Swift tickets. And if for some reason I wind
up at Taylor Swift show, it's not because I took
Taylor Swift tickets that were allocated for anybody. It's because
I was asked to be there for business purposes, which
I think might happen.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
But you know what, I'm serious.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Though, I have a meeting.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But if you asked me, well, Jason can verify this.
I was actually asked to go buy the label. Yeah
you were so you no, And I think that's I
think that's because they want to They want us to
be able to talk about it, right. But the truth is,
if you know anything about me, I like Taylor, but
if you know anything about me, if it were up
to me, I would take those tickets and give him
(12:09):
like Ronald McDonald house or something. And I would not
attend a Taylor Swift show with seventy thousand people at
Soldier Field.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I wouldn't. Who's your plus one? I don't know whoever,
I cat, whoever who selling? That's how you do it?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Ye looking great today?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, why you're in, aren't you? I thought you were
hooked up, you know, but not access to But it
doesn't mean anything this time. It used to mean that
there was a whole dog and pony show and you'd
meet Taylor and the whole thing. But I thought maybe
they were lying to us because they wanted to surprise
you too.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I thought maybe.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
There is one no, because we I don't know if
you guys know this, but behind the scenes, believe it
or not, Jason and Are James and I lobby hard
so that you guys could could meet them. Oh, thank you,
and we wanted to surprise you with that. And I
wanted to be present because I wanted to be there
to resuscitate Cane, and physically I wanted because I'm I'm
her emergency contact, so I wanted to be there when
(13:05):
the paramedics wheel her out and stuff, and like, you know, but.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Hey, better not wheel me out, Wheel me right into
my seat so I can watch the show.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But the reason I'm pretty darn sure there's no surprise
is because in previous times where I've met Taylor, there
was a there was a background, there was a full investment,
like you had to send a headshot, you had to
a picture of your I d Yeah, there was a
whole bunch of ship you had to do before you
could meet her, and none of that's happening. And I'm
also not seeing cheesy industry pictures from other cities, and
(13:35):
you'd be seeing a lot of that, a lot of
like you know, Joe Blow and the Joe Blow, the
Big the Mayor, the Morning Mayor, you know from wherever,
Big Diggling on w BALLS.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
That's my favorite on.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You never heard of w J We're trying to get
that as an affiliate. Yeah, we're trying. Trust me. As
soon as I heard it, I'm like, we want WGS
right now we are the Morning The Morning Mayor is
on WGS. I think that one's we can't have that
one though. We can't have all the nice things, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I think of the merch Man, the Fred Show on Jeez.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
In the Morning. Man. I love improv.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
That's another thing is if you haven't noticed, guys, we
play an improv game on this show. And I'm not
saying any of us should be at Second City, maybe Klin,
but sometimes we wind up in a place we didn't
mean to go, and that's called yes and and that's
what happens, and so you know it. Trust me, if
you if you're offended by the direction of a segment goes.
I can promise you we didn't mean for it to
(14:55):
go there, more than likely unless you're offended by w GS,
in which case you're approved and it's called the tangent and.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Fuck it, fuck it. Yeah. Anything else that we can
address on this thing, just we can. You know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I want to make sure that everyone feels heard and
that we that we do read your feedback, good and bad.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I think what else we hear a lot?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I want to apologize for what happened on Monday. There's
a lot of it on Monday.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You mean, when the elevator music was playing during commercials,
during a song, during Oh my god, I'm sorry. It
was probably the worst day of my career, and you
all witness it. And I'm not being dramatic, like there's
there was literally nothing we could do, yes, Like the
thing just frows and we're just standing there watching this happen.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Like what am I supposed to have no clue where
this elevator music came from?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
But we do now, and we've worked it out and
we apologize for what happened on Monday.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
I was flying home with like the most anxiety ever,
and then I saw your tweet friend and I'm like, oh,
dear god, what has happened?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah it was as good. It was as good as
you can imagine, and better even.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah, you handled it well though, you guys did. I
thought you were going to explode at one point in
to pieces D.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I really did. I'm like, something's gonna happen to this man.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I used to like freak out, and I don't know.
I guess I'm just older and mature or well medicated
or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
But I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I don't freak out anymore. I wasn't happy, but like
I used to, like, you know, I would be very expressive.
I'd be like yelling and stuff. But that doesn't do
any good.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
That's gross.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah. Yeah, Rufio did all the yelling at ues I did.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He lost his ship and I'm in the meantime just
going to make it stop.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
What were you yelling?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
What what did you think?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
What?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Button was?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Like?
Speaker 5 (16:39):
What you know?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
How this is? There's gotta be a stop. There's no
way to stop it. It's again, there was literally nothing
we could do.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, it was crazy. It was a crazy thing.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
But anyway, also Fred is happy and contend in his life.
And being single.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Oh yeah, we do, and so was Kaelin for that matter.
I don't know if you're single or what you are.
I never really know are we single? Are we not single?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
We're single?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Okay, we're single?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Because sometimes yeah, sometimes sometimes dude, like like sometimes dude
from the Geriatric Bachelor come along and they and they
you date them, and then we don't hear about it
until it's over.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
No, I talked about I talked about the last guy
I dated a little. Yeah, I mean I just like,
what do you want me to say their government name
and there?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I mean that would be helpful for the fund the.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Situation with the X and the you stalking that dude?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
What do you mean, what's the situation? Did you know
if he was hooking up with someone else?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You were using your sister's Instagram to stalk another woman
who then caught you doing it.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yeah, then followed my sister and then we had ourselves
a little mess.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And then was there any any anything come off that?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
No?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
I like, I like hopefully caught it before my sister
and then like deleted her off of there. But no,
there was nothing that came from it. I never found
out whether they were banging or not.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Who cares well she does? Yeah, I do. I don't
want them to.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I don't want them to be binging.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But you moved on.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
No, No, I wouldn't be checking. Yeah, I wouldn't be checking.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
If I moved on.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, But sometimes you move on and you know what's right.
But then you your curiosity gets the best of me.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That's me.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Yeah. I think it was more life circumstance why we
didn't work out. So I think that's harder when things
don't work out because of something other than someone doing
something bad.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I see, I see, yeah, because I know the right answer.
Like when I go back and look at an X
on Instagram and see them happy with somebody else. I
in that moment, I forget why we're not together. But then,
you know, thirty minutes later, I'm like, oh, well, I'm
glad that person's happy, but it didn't work out with
us for a reason. Yeah, but I still have a
morbid curiosity to see what they're up to.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah. I mean we do tend to look back at
things and forget the bad and like romanticize them if
they're a lot farther in our past.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But yeah, but I could argue that I would feel
better if a girl I used to date winds up
with like Brad Pitt, you know, and I'm like I'm
just or just whatever, and somebody who's like really really
good looking, I would be like, okay, you know I
can see it.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
That would make me feel way worse.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Why though, because it's like they're they're like way out there,
you know what I mean, Like if if because.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
I would feel like she was better than me, and
I'd be really.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
You'd rather it's an inferior person because I would be like,
what do you think of me?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
No, I'm like hell yeah, everybody's talking and yeah yes.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
But so at first I have you have the moment
of like, oh, you're messing up the brand like that, right,
you know what I'm saying, Like you could do better? Right,
what are you doing? But then it's kind of like, oh,
actually you can't do I'm best. Yeah, well there you haven't.
I think I feel the other way.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I think i'd rather that the person be like understandably
better than me, because it's like, Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
No one's better than you, they're just a different Oh.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
There are there, they are, there are people better there. Yeah,
for sure, thanks for listening to the tangent. Everyone subscribe
and tell your friends and uh and listen to the
podcast too, or any part of the show you may
have missed. On the iHeartRadio app search for the Fred Show.
Have a good day, everyone,
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An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.