July 2, 2025 • 16 mins
Art Regner of RedWings.com joins the show to pay homage to Alex Delvecchio and discuss the status quo with the Wings.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Art Reagnor has been a good friend of mine for
a long time. Great respect for him. His passion is unmatched,
especially when it comes to Detroit Red Wings hockey. And
I don't know many people who know more about the
history of the Red Wings and the red Wings themselves
than the host and reporter and podcaster for Redwings dot com.
And he joins us on this Wednesday morning, Arthur, how
are you and Michelle?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh, we're doing well there, Matt. I you know, it's
it's been a while, but it's always great to catch up.
And you're right. I uh, you know, you know, I
met an age now, Matt, where everybody I run into
I think I know somehow. You know what I mean,
because you've you know, I've met so many people over
the years now it's like, my god, I think I
know this guy from someplace, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So you at an age where you can't always remember
what the guy does or who he is, but you
know you've met him at some point. And of course,
when you're popular, like our regner has been for so
many decades, people are bound to say that they do
know you and do you remember when? And that's not
always an easy thing. You remember dealing with Alex Delvecchio,
(01:01):
that you covered him, but that you interviewed him a
number of times. One of the greatest Red Wings of
all time. Sorry for the Red Wings loss. Can you
put in perspective what he meant to the organization and
what he meant to hockey in general.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well, he was a stabilizing force for the Red Wings.
If you remember, Matt when you and I were coming up.
Del Vechio's playing career was towards the end, but he
was still productive. But the thing is, he never really
left the organization once he retired, and he kept coming
(01:37):
back as coach and general manager. And his love for
this area, for the Detroit area and for the Red
Wings was really unmatched in a lot of ways if
you look at it that way. I mean, just a
loyal person and just a great player. I mean really
kind of underappreciated because of the run that the Red
(02:02):
Wings are just you know, unfortunately they're not on anymore.
But you know, the last Stanley Cup Championship group and
I can go from the beginning of Steve and I'm
not going to list all these guys, but not only
was that team a dynasty as far as Red Wing hockey.
But you can argue that some of those teams were
(02:24):
right up there with the greatest in all of Detroit
professional history, regardless of teams. And I think that Alex
probably got a little overshadowed by that where people unless
you know, you're geeky like me, and you sit there
and you look back at the history and point totals
and and things like that. I mean, as far as
(02:44):
point totals, there's only two guys who rank ahead of
him in red Wing history. And those fellows happened to
be Steve Eiserman and Fordy Howe and you know, and
you know, and then right after him is Nick So
I mean, you know, just a wonderful man, always had
(03:08):
time for everybody, and you know, it's really strange, man.
And I know I've told you this before. You know,
during my career I would talk to red Wing legends
Ted Lindsay a lot, you know, Alex Delvekio, Gordie Howe,
And a lot of times I would be in the uh,
you know, in the concourse or doing shows at the
(03:30):
Joe Louis Arena, and after it was over, I would
be sitting at like the table or wherever we were
doing the broadcast talking to these guys, and fans would
walk by and not know who they were, and I
always felt that was kind of strange. I'm not getting
down on the fans, but when time passes, people have
(03:51):
a tendency to forget. And I really think that Alex
got really kind of almost a forgotten superstar, a forgotten legend.
And you know, unfortunately, with his passing, I think everybody
now takes a step back, becomes reflective and looks and thinks,
my gosh, what a great hockey player in man. Alex
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Delvechio really really was.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, third ever player to reach a thousand points at
the time, it was Gordy how and John Bellevue and
then it was Alex Delvecchio. Just a great ambassador for
the organization, for the state, for the city, and for
the sport as well. All right, let's get to the
sport that's going on right now. It's hard to go
out and get what you need in free agency. That's
(04:37):
why I just got done talking about drafting and developing.
Tigers have done it with success, Lines have done it
with success. The Red Wings are hoping it pays off too.
James Van Riemsdyke one year, one million dollars, Patrick Caine reups,
Albert Johansson two years, Jonathan Bergman one year. The splash
is not there.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I've been the one art who says just because you
have money doesn't mean you spend it, as Joe Dumars
and Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. You don't spend it
just because you have it. You spend it properly, you
spend it wisely. What's been the most underwhelming thing about
NHL free agency so far and why the Red Wings
haven't been more of a player in it.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well, I think it's just the way the system is,
and I think that usually when the cap has gone up,
that makes a very level playing field where teams like
Detroit that is under the cap and you know that
they're going to be under the cap and you're just
(05:39):
waiting for free agency. Well, when the cap goes up
and you get a guy like Aaron Ekblad and Red
Wing fans, you know it's coming back home a little
bit on you too. How many guys took you know,
the home the home team discount or teams that deferred money.
So Brett Hall and Luke Robati can come here and
(06:02):
they get and they get another Stanley Cup, you know, yeah,
so yeah, So that's exactly what's happening right now, is that,
you know, and there's thirty two teams. Don't forget there's
there's and they're gonna keep expanding. I mean, Atlanta is
you know, come hell or high water man, and it's
(06:23):
gonna get a team and it's gonna work this time.
You know, Yeah, sure, Jim.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Cra that's such bull crap. It's it's a joke. It's
an absolute farce.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Right right. So I really think the revelings it's not easy.
You know, Steve is in a really bad position. But
the thing about Steve and is you very well know
he comes right out and tells you I mean, you know,
Steve was Steve came out and said, look, the chances
of us making quote unquote a splash are pretty remote.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It's not that we don't have the money or we
don't want to, but you know, you need people that
want to come here, and you also, you know, need
to find a training partner. And I think, and I've
always felt this looking as this free agency approached, is
that you know, the Red Wings really did as you
(07:17):
just said Matt before I came out of your discussion
about you know, trying to build from within. And I
really and we have heard now for a number of
years that they have to improve from within, and I
really think that there is possibilities here that we're finally
going to see that. I think Marco Casper is a
(07:39):
legitimate second line center. I think that Casper playing on
the line with Patrick Kane and Alex to brink It
will do wonderful things in Detroit. The problem is is
who are they going to get to play with Dylan
and Lucas Raymond and if they're going to make a splash.
(07:59):
I think they always were thinking this way. And you know,
I don't really know this for sure, but I got
a pretty good handle on Steve and how he thinks
is they're going to have to do it through trade.
I think trade has always been the the the most
likely option simply because of what you know, again, not
to be too redundant here. It's a level playing field
(08:22):
in the NHL right now with the cap going up.
You know, who wouldn't want to stay in Florida. My gosh,
you know, they look like everyone thought, oh, this is
Vonton's Zer. This is Evonton Zier. You know Florida, I're
playing seven games series. You know, you know they're they're
they're a team that's rough and tumble, So you know,
those guys are nowhere near one hundred percent. But when
you want to win, suddenly, you know, the body feels
(08:44):
great when you're on the verse of getting another Stanley Cup. So, uh,
I just think that, uh, you know, there could have
been things that they could have done. They could have
thrown money. You know, Steve has not it hasn't really
worked out well. Nothing against j T. Confor or cop,
but I don't think he was going to overpay for
a talent this year. And unfortunately, where the Red Wings
(09:06):
are at right now, if you really want to get
an unrestricted free agent, if they're even available, everybody seemed
to be signed or signed in trade before a you know,
July first even hit. You're going to you know you're
going to have to really, you know, you give them
much more money than you're then you probably should, and
(09:27):
I think this time Steve just wasn't going to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I'm glad he didn't. I'm glad he didn't sign
Sam Bennett to eight million dollars for a guy whose
career highest fifty seven points. I'm glad he didn't spend
the amount of money for Brad Marshan. I mean, Florida's
in a position they can do that. I think it
was fiscally responsible on the part of Steve Eisman to
stay patient and not go after something. But there are
two names that I think could fit the bill. I
(09:52):
want your quick thoughts on him, Eelers and Baser.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean, he you know, he's sitting in the
old catbird seat. I know, I've got riddled with cliches
this morning. I'm not a morning person. Let's be on
so so, you know, I mean he's taking offers then,
you know, and as each guy is signing, you know,
he's getting more teams that are calling his Asian They're
(10:20):
not going to the store. So you know, I mean,
could that happen? Yeah, I guess it could happen. Would
it be good? Yeah, it wouldn't be good for Detroit.
Do I think it's gonna happen. No, I don't think
it's gonna happen because.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You don't want to spend eight to ten million dollars
on him, right, I mean, he made six million last year.
You don't want to spend eight to ten million dollars.
They're good players, but they're not that good of players, right,
Am I wrong about? OK?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, that's exactly it. I mean, you know, I think
that he's thinking. The problem that they're having is that,
you know, like I said, Marco Casper, you know, I
think Simon Edison is a stud I really do. I
think that that guy is only going to get better
and better and better. Albred Johanson really was a pleasant surprise.
I think that you know that Todd McClelland is an
(11:08):
excellent coach. He's a guy that I know that we
both have known from his first stint around as Babcock's assistant,
and I think that he'll get the most out of him.
He's a no nonsense guy. I think that he is
a veteran coach and when people say what does that
exactly mean, that exactly means is he's going to coach
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the team he wants to coach it. I think when
you have first year coaches like a Jeff Blashell or
Derek leland lalone, I think the problem is is that
sometimes they defer to the team a little too much
because their first year. You know, this is my first job.
You know, I don't want to get the whole team
po'd at me. Then you know they're never going to
play for me. And I think that that kind of
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filters in a lot with Todd, you don't have to
worry about that point.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I agree, yeah, hundred percent. Running out of times on
what your thoughts, John Gibson, what do you like about
the trade? Besides getting rid of Peter Murrazak. I thought
it was a really good trade. I don't know if
he's necessarily an a goalie, but I like the tandem
of Gibson and Talbot more than lyon in Mrazak or
Talbot and Lion.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Absolutely. I mean, John Gibson has been rumored to come
to Detroite now for like five years. It seems like
much like James Van Ringsdyke. I mean, how many times
did we give that Van Riemsdyke was going to come
to de trade a couple of trade deadlines ago. Everyone
thought there was a deal already, that he was here.
I you know, that didn't work out. I like the trade.
(12:40):
I really do like the trade. I like John Gibson
and that, you know, Anaheim and Detroit are in kind
of similar situations as far as where the teams are at.
But I think that, you know, he's still relatively young
at what thirty one, I believe, and I think he
has a lot to prove, and if you really look
at it, over the last ten years of his career,
(13:01):
he's had two seasons where he's been injured. Now, you know,
can he stay healthy. I think he can stay healthy.
I think Talbot and he are a great tandem. And
and I do believe that the Red Wings did upgrade
and goal, and they needed to upgrade and goal because
I still think depending on if they can make a trade,
if it's if it's for uh, a top line defenseman
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or you know, I think they're probably going to go
maybe upfront and try to get maybe a Jason Robertson
or someone UH from from Dallas. You know, Steven Jim
Nill obviously pretty close and tight. So they'll talk and
and maybe they can work something out. Dallas wants assets,
they want draft picks and young prospects, and Detroit has
a lot of them, so maybe that might be a
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you know, look towards the big d uh to do
something with UH, you know, with with Motown here. But
I like I like that move. I do like the
goaltending move. I think it was a shrewd move Steve.
You know, he always seems to move on the goalies
early before there becomes a rush on goalies. Not that
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there was a lot of goalies available this year, because
there weren't, but you know, Detroit before free agency hit
and even the draft, they seem to get their goaltending
situation down. And let's be honest, I think Steve, even
though I'm always, traded Kyle Quincy to Detroit for their
draft choice that was nineteenth overall that ended up in
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andre Vassilevski. I think if you were to ask him,
what's the biggest maybe disappointment thus far besides not making
the playoffs during your tenure as GM of the Red Wings,
You'll probably tell you it's not getting goaltending right.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes too, I mean I worry about Sebastian Kosa. I
thought would at some point you would have enough maturation
and enough nurturing in the minors. And Steve has said
done his postgame press conference, Hey listen, postseason press conference,
we think he needs another year in the AHL, just
real quick. And then we got to go because we
had about one minute. Okay, why would doubts? Why would
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Dallas get rid of Jason Robertson who has scored forty
goals or more twice in his career and he's still
a young player. Why in the rule would they get
rid of him?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Well, I would think that the two reasons were real quickly.
Number One, they're going to be up against it against
the the cap. Look if I were Jim Neil, and
I'm not going to tell the guy who's won GM
of the Year three years in a row to do,
but I would trade him. But he is something that
you can get. I mean, would Detroit give up let's
say two number ones Nate Danielsen and a couple of
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more fairly high draft picks or not draft picks, but
players to acquire young talent. Dallas drafts very very well.
You know, they're host Scotting Stafford are basically you know,
red wing people that Jim took when he took the
job back in what two though thirteen for the Stars.
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So I think that what Dallas needs to do to
maintain is they're going to have to start replenishing the
stock with young talent. They don't really have a lot
of young talents, nor do they have a lot of
high draftics. Detroit could be a team that could do
that for them. It'll cost them, it'll hurt a little bit,
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but in the long run it will benefit the Dallas Stars,
as Jason Robertson would definitely benefit the Detroit Red Wings.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Oh, without question. He is a young player though he's
only twenty five. So it's interesting that we talk about
youth and Dallas. But your point is well taken regarding
the cap. It's always great to visit with you all
the best on a holiday week. Say hello to Michelle
for me. Keep up the great work, and I hope
to see you assume my friend.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh, definitely, man, we'll get together, buddy. Thank you. It's
always a pleasure.
Art Reagnor has been a good friend of mine for
a long time. Great respect for him. His passion is unmatched,
especially when it comes to Detroit Red Wings hockey. And
I don't know many people who know more about the
history of the Red Wings and the red Wings themselves
than the host and reporter and podcaster for Redwings dot com.
And he joins us on this Wednesday morning, Arthur, how
are you and Michelle?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh, we're doing well there, Matt. I you know, it's
it's been a while, but it's always great to catch up.
And you're right. I uh, you know, you know, I
met an age now, Matt, where everybody I run into
I think I know somehow. You know what I mean,
because you've you know, I've met so many people over
the years now it's like, my god, I think I
know this guy from someplace, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So you at an age where you can't always remember
what the guy does or who he is, but you
know you've met him at some point. And of course,
when you're popular, like our regner has been for so
many decades, people are bound to say that they do
know you and do you remember when? And that's not
always an easy thing. You remember dealing with Alex Delvecchio,
(01:01):
that you covered him, but that you interviewed him a
number of times. One of the greatest Red Wings of
all time. Sorry for the Red Wings loss. Can you
put in perspective what he meant to the organization and
what he meant to hockey in general.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well, he was a stabilizing force for the Red Wings.
If you remember, Matt when you and I were coming up.
Del Vechio's playing career was towards the end, but he
was still productive. But the thing is, he never really
left the organization once he retired, and he kept coming
(01:37):
back as coach and general manager. And his love for
this area, for the Detroit area and for the Red
Wings was really unmatched in a lot of ways if
you look at it that way. I mean, just a
loyal person and just a great player. I mean really
kind of underappreciated because of the run that the Red
(02:02):
Wings are just you know, unfortunately they're not on anymore.
But you know, the last Stanley Cup Championship group and
I can go from the beginning of Steve and I'm
not going to list all these guys, but not only
was that team a dynasty as far as Red Wing hockey.
But you can argue that some of those teams were
(02:24):
right up there with the greatest in all of Detroit
professional history, regardless of teams. And I think that Alex
probably got a little overshadowed by that where people unless
you know, you're geeky like me, and you sit there
and you look back at the history and point totals
and and things like that. I mean, as far as
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point totals, there's only two guys who rank ahead of
him in red Wing history. And those fellows happened to
be Steve Eiserman and Fordy Howe and you know, and
you know, and then right after him is Nick So
I mean, you know, just a wonderful man, always had
(03:08):
time for everybody, and you know, it's really strange, man.
And I know I've told you this before. You know,
during my career I would talk to red Wing legends
Ted Lindsay a lot, you know, Alex Delvekio, Gordie Howe,
And a lot of times I would be in the uh,
you know, in the concourse or doing shows at the
(03:30):
Joe Louis Arena, and after it was over, I would
be sitting at like the table or wherever we were
doing the broadcast talking to these guys, and fans would
walk by and not know who they were, and I
always felt that was kind of strange. I'm not getting
down on the fans, but when time passes, people have
(03:51):
a tendency to forget. And I really think that Alex
got really kind of almost a forgotten superstar, a forgotten legend.
And you know, unfortunately, with his passing, I think everybody
now takes a step back, becomes reflective and looks and thinks,
my gosh, what a great hockey player in man. Alex
(04:15):
Delvechio really really was.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, third ever player to reach a thousand points at
the time, it was Gordy how and John Bellevue and
then it was Alex Delvecchio. Just a great ambassador for
the organization, for the state, for the city, and for
the sport as well. All right, let's get to the
sport that's going on right now. It's hard to go
out and get what you need in free agency. That's
(04:37):
why I just got done talking about drafting and developing.
Tigers have done it with success, Lines have done it
with success. The Red Wings are hoping it pays off too.
James Van Riemsdyke one year, one million dollars, Patrick Caine reups,
Albert Johansson two years, Jonathan Bergman one year. The splash
is not there.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I've been the one art who says just because you
have money doesn't mean you spend it, as Joe Dumars
and Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. You don't spend it
just because you have it. You spend it properly, you
spend it wisely. What's been the most underwhelming thing about
NHL free agency so far and why the Red Wings
haven't been more of a player in it.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well, I think it's just the way the system is,
and I think that usually when the cap has gone up,
that makes a very level playing field where teams like
Detroit that is under the cap and you know that
they're going to be under the cap and you're just
(05:39):
waiting for free agency. Well, when the cap goes up
and you get a guy like Aaron Ekblad and Red
Wing fans, you know it's coming back home a little
bit on you too. How many guys took you know,
the home the home team discount or teams that deferred money.
So Brett Hall and Luke Robati can come here and
(06:02):
they get and they get another Stanley Cup, you know, yeah,
so yeah, So that's exactly what's happening right now, is that,
you know, and there's thirty two teams. Don't forget there's
there's and they're gonna keep expanding. I mean, Atlanta is
you know, come hell or high water man, and it's
(06:23):
gonna get a team and it's gonna work this time.
You know, Yeah, sure, Jim.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Cra that's such bull crap. It's it's a joke. It's
an absolute farce.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Right right. So I really think the revelings it's not easy.
You know, Steve is in a really bad position. But
the thing about Steve and is you very well know
he comes right out and tells you I mean, you know,
Steve was Steve came out and said, look, the chances
of us making quote unquote a splash are pretty remote.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It's not that we don't have the money or we
don't want to, but you know, you need people that
want to come here, and you also, you know, need
to find a training partner. And I think, and I've
always felt this looking as this free agency approached, is
that you know, the Red Wings really did as you
(07:17):
just said Matt before I came out of your discussion
about you know, trying to build from within. And I
really and we have heard now for a number of
years that they have to improve from within, and I
really think that there is possibilities here that we're finally
going to see that. I think Marco Casper is a
(07:39):
legitimate second line center. I think that Casper playing on
the line with Patrick Kane and Alex to brink It
will do wonderful things in Detroit. The problem is is
who are they going to get to play with Dylan
and Lucas Raymond and if they're going to make a splash.
(07:59):
I think they always were thinking this way. And you know,
I don't really know this for sure, but I got
a pretty good handle on Steve and how he thinks
is they're going to have to do it through trade.
I think trade has always been the the the most
likely option simply because of what you know, again, not
to be too redundant here. It's a level playing field
(08:22):
in the NHL right now with the cap going up.
You know, who wouldn't want to stay in Florida. My gosh,
you know, they look like everyone thought, oh, this is
Vonton's Zer. This is Evonton Zier. You know Florida, I're
playing seven games series. You know, you know they're they're
they're a team that's rough and tumble, So you know,
those guys are nowhere near one hundred percent. But when
you want to win, suddenly, you know, the body feels
(08:44):
great when you're on the verse of getting another Stanley Cup. So, uh,
I just think that, uh, you know, there could have
been things that they could have done. They could have
thrown money. You know, Steve has not it hasn't really
worked out well. Nothing against j T. Confor or cop,
but I don't think he was going to overpay for
a talent this year. And unfortunately, where the Red Wings
(09:06):
are at right now, if you really want to get
an unrestricted free agent, if they're even available, everybody seemed
to be signed or signed in trade before a you know,
July first even hit. You're going to you know you're
going to have to really, you know, you give them
much more money than you're then you probably should, and
(09:27):
I think this time Steve just wasn't going to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I'm glad he didn't. I'm glad he didn't sign
Sam Bennett to eight million dollars for a guy whose
career highest fifty seven points. I'm glad he didn't spend
the amount of money for Brad Marshan. I mean, Florida's
in a position they can do that. I think it
was fiscally responsible on the part of Steve Eisman to
stay patient and not go after something. But there are
two names that I think could fit the bill. I
(09:52):
want your quick thoughts on him, Eelers and Baser.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean, he you know, he's sitting in the
old catbird seat. I know, I've got riddled with cliches
this morning. I'm not a morning person. Let's be on
so so, you know, I mean he's taking offers then,
you know, and as each guy is signing, you know,
he's getting more teams that are calling his Asian They're
(10:20):
not going to the store. So you know, I mean,
could that happen? Yeah, I guess it could happen. Would
it be good? Yeah, it wouldn't be good for Detroit.
Do I think it's gonna happen. No, I don't think
it's gonna happen because.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You don't want to spend eight to ten million dollars
on him, right, I mean, he made six million last year.
You don't want to spend eight to ten million dollars.
They're good players, but they're not that good of players, right,
Am I wrong about? OK?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, that's exactly it. I mean, you know, I think
that he's thinking. The problem that they're having is that,
you know, like I said, Marco Casper, you know, I
think Simon Edison is a stud I really do. I
think that that guy is only going to get better
and better and better. Albred Johanson really was a pleasant surprise.
I think that you know that Todd McClelland is an
(11:08):
excellent coach. He's a guy that I know that we
both have known from his first stint around as Babcock's assistant,
and I think that he'll get the most out of him.
He's a no nonsense guy. I think that he is
a veteran coach and when people say what does that
exactly mean, that exactly means is he's going to coach
(11:30):
the team he wants to coach it. I think when
you have first year coaches like a Jeff Blashell or
Derek leland lalone, I think the problem is is that
sometimes they defer to the team a little too much
because their first year. You know, this is my first job.
You know, I don't want to get the whole team
po'd at me. Then you know they're never going to
play for me. And I think that that kind of
(11:50):
filters in a lot with Todd, you don't have to
worry about that point.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I agree, yeah, hundred percent. Running out of times on
what your thoughts, John Gibson, what do you like about
the trade? Besides getting rid of Peter Murrazak. I thought
it was a really good trade. I don't know if
he's necessarily an a goalie, but I like the tandem
of Gibson and Talbot more than lyon in Mrazak or
Talbot and Lion.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Absolutely. I mean, John Gibson has been rumored to come
to Detroite now for like five years. It seems like
much like James Van Ringsdyke. I mean, how many times
did we give that Van Riemsdyke was going to come
to de trade a couple of trade deadlines ago. Everyone
thought there was a deal already, that he was here.
I you know, that didn't work out. I like the trade.
(12:40):
I really do like the trade. I like John Gibson
and that, you know, Anaheim and Detroit are in kind
of similar situations as far as where the teams are at.
But I think that, you know, he's still relatively young
at what thirty one, I believe, and I think he
has a lot to prove, and if you really look
at it, over the last ten years of his career,
(13:01):
he's had two seasons where he's been injured. Now, you know,
can he stay healthy. I think he can stay healthy.
I think Talbot and he are a great tandem. And
and I do believe that the Red Wings did upgrade
and goal, and they needed to upgrade and goal because
I still think depending on if they can make a trade,
if it's if it's for uh, a top line defenseman
(13:24):
or you know, I think they're probably going to go
maybe upfront and try to get maybe a Jason Robertson
or someone UH from from Dallas. You know, Steven Jim
Nill obviously pretty close and tight. So they'll talk and
and maybe they can work something out. Dallas wants assets,
they want draft picks and young prospects, and Detroit has
a lot of them, so maybe that might be a
(13:46):
you know, look towards the big d uh to do
something with UH, you know, with with Motown here. But
I like I like that move. I do like the
goaltending move. I think it was a shrewd move Steve.
You know, he always seems to move on the goalies
early before there becomes a rush on goalies. Not that
(14:09):
there was a lot of goalies available this year, because
there weren't, but you know, Detroit before free agency hit
and even the draft, they seem to get their goaltending
situation down. And let's be honest, I think Steve, even
though I'm always, traded Kyle Quincy to Detroit for their
draft choice that was nineteenth overall that ended up in
(14:31):
andre Vassilevski. I think if you were to ask him,
what's the biggest maybe disappointment thus far besides not making
the playoffs during your tenure as GM of the Red Wings,
You'll probably tell you it's not getting goaltending right.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes too, I mean I worry about Sebastian Kosa. I
thought would at some point you would have enough maturation
and enough nurturing in the minors. And Steve has said
done his postgame press conference, Hey listen, postseason press conference,
we think he needs another year in the AHL, just
real quick. And then we got to go because we
had about one minute. Okay, why would doubts? Why would
(15:08):
Dallas get rid of Jason Robertson who has scored forty
goals or more twice in his career and he's still
a young player. Why in the rule would they get
rid of him?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Well, I would think that the two reasons were real quickly.
Number One, they're going to be up against it against
the the cap. Look if I were Jim Neil, and
I'm not going to tell the guy who's won GM
of the Year three years in a row to do,
but I would trade him. But he is something that
you can get. I mean, would Detroit give up let's
say two number ones Nate Danielsen and a couple of
(15:41):
more fairly high draft picks or not draft picks, but
players to acquire young talent. Dallas drafts very very well.
You know, they're host Scotting Stafford are basically you know,
red wing people that Jim took when he took the
job back in what two though thirteen for the Stars.
(16:02):
So I think that what Dallas needs to do to
maintain is they're going to have to start replenishing the
stock with young talent. They don't really have a lot
of young talents, nor do they have a lot of
high draftics. Detroit could be a team that could do
that for them. It'll cost them, it'll hurt a little bit,
(16:23):
but in the long run it will benefit the Dallas Stars,
as Jason Robertson would definitely benefit the Detroit Red Wings.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Oh, without question. He is a young player though he's
only twenty five. So it's interesting that we talk about
youth and Dallas. But your point is well taken regarding
the cap. It's always great to visit with you all
the best on a holiday week. Say hello to Michelle
for me. Keep up the great work, and I hope
to see you assume my friend.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh, definitely, man, we'll get together, buddy. Thank you. It's
always a pleasure.
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