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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Certain athletes shape your lives, mostly as a kid, right.
George Gervin was one of those guys from me first
NBA game I ever attended. He was playing for the
San Antonio Spurs against the Detroit Pistons at Cobo Arena,
and I had his poster the Iceman in my room
for a long long time and really honored to be
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able to work with him now because he's an incredible
representation of the city of Detroit and the game of basketball,
and he is the coach of the Detroit Big Three team,
the Detroit Ampson. He joins us here this morning on
the Lindsey Hunter Foundation guest Line. Hi George, Hawaii this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hey Matt, how you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I'm doing great, man. It was great to hear you
talk to the folks yesterday. Your involvement now in the
Big Three. Why is this important to you?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, I mean I'm born here race, here in Detroit.
To have an opportunity to know I'm back and be
a part of a you know, a brand new franchise,
you know here in Detroit. I mean it's exciting to me.
You know, everybody love home and when I come home
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and you know, I have so many wonderful memories. You know,
the first person I think of is Mom. And the
reason why I think of Mom because she raised us
as a single parent, and you know the sacrifices she
made to help us understand and give us morals, values
and principles, and that's the structure of becoming a good
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human being. So I'm back home and now I'm going
to be coaching Detroit Amps. So I'm excited. So that's
why I'm so excited to be home.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, people love you in this area. You got so
much attention yesterday, not just because of your roots with
Detroit King and Eastern Michigan as an and be a
Hall of Famer, but because of just the pride people
have that you were as great as you were and
that you were a Detroiter. But the opportunity to coach
with your son, I would think, means an awful lot too.
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He's a great young man and for g to be
on your staff has to be special for you, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Now? Just to see him, you know, grow up and
become the man that he has, the problem, the father husband.
You know, go back to the roots, treat people like
you want to be treated, and you won't have very
many issues in life, and you know, he took that
structure and it became a part of who he is.
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And he had grown up to be a tremendous young
man and he just understand people and he's a great coach.
So I'm very proud to have him by my side.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, you should be. It's been really rewarding for me
to learn a little bit more about him and get
to know him over the last couple the days. It's
hard wearing that last name on the back of your jersey,
it's hard walking in your shadows, and he's done it
exceptionally well. George Gervin the Hall of Famer joining us
here on Exes and Bros. Tell us about the Big
Three and why it's so enticing to you and why
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you think this league can be successful.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Well, this is the eighth year, so I've been here
since the beginning. You know, when I Shoot called me
really now eight years ago to be a part of it,
you know, I was excited about it. You know, we
all grow up playing three on three. But the vision
that Cbe had really proved to be successful. You know,
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we got former NBA ballplayers and European professional ball players
and He started a game. He started a game that
we all love. So for me to be involved in
to see it be where it is today, I'm proud
of him. I'm proud of his vision. I'm proud be
a part of the league. And it's fun, it's very competitive,
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and over the years people it has proved that people
really enjoy watching three on three basketball. I'm excited for that. Man.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, what do you like most about your team? Very
likable guys, I mean, hard working guys. Saw that at
a practice yesterday. What do you like most about the
guys led by Jeremy Pargo and Joe Johnson.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I like the humility, you know, you know, I like
the togetherness. You know, you think about it, man, Joe Johnson.
Joe Johnson was here in camp with the Pistons in
a year twenty one. So it's professionalism and we all,
you know, we call the misol Joe because we understand
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how to play the game. And you know, Pargo is
being the captain. He's very outspoken, you know, he's very
team or in and he just came from playing over overseas.
So I got a squad that is hungry. I got
a squad that appreciate plan you know, going to be
planned for Detroit. And you know, Pargo and Joe have
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won it already in the Big Three, they won a title.
So to bring that leadership you know here in Detroit
is gonna really make it exciting. You know, I mean,
I know that Detroit fans don't fall in love with
just these guys' personality and how they play.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah. NBA Hall of Famer George Gervin, the head coach
of the Detroit AMNST, Detroit's first Big Three team, joining
is on the Lindsay Hunter Foundation guest line. Where does
this league go from here? It's tough to build a
fan base with only one home game. What do you
envision this league being long term where you can create
more of a connection with a team and its athletes.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So since I've been here, and we talked about the
eight years I've been here, now this eighth year, now
Cube and Jeff have sold franchised, you know, so it's
already then turned, it's already been changed. Now you got
a ownership group that have their own vision and can
help take this lead to another level. I really think
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this league can be also be global. A few years ago,
before the pandemic. We took a team over to China
and we was going to play in five different city.
They sold out in every city that we was attending
to go to. So it already proved that the excitement
is there and the fan base is there. So I
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see it going to even global. It has some great potential.
And again now that we have ownership and people and
is believing that this brand can can really grow makes
it real exciting.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, the Game Above foundation, Game Above company has brought
it here. You're a big part of it. There are
other big names associated with it too in Detroit, t J.
Lang being one of them, Anthony Tomy being another. How
has that experience been for you working for Game Above
and being a leadership part of that organization?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Fun you think about it. You know it's a lot
of alumnis of Eastern Michigan, you know, so to create
Game Above and then you know it's an investment group
and to go out and see the love that you know,
our head chairman, Keith Stone had and a vision that
he have the Game Above. He had already took it
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to another level, you know, Like I know, Matt, leadership
is everything, and we got a great leader in Keith,
and I won't be surprised where we go with his vision.
And I'm so proud to be part of the game
above group and we do it a wonderful group. You know,
TJ and and Andrew have been a major role in uh,
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you know, getting this off the round here in Detroit.
And you know, being over and born in Detroit yesterday
really proved that, you know, it really brings some excitement,
you know, with these two guys you know here in Detroit,
the fixture here and I'm so proud that they are
part of us.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, that's that's Anthony Store. They were born in Detroit,
no question. So the Big Three if it were around
when you played or soon after you had retired, who
would have been the best three on three players of
your generation? Do you think.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Somebody else?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Man?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Okay, George, did you pick your pick your three on
three team? And you can pick anybody that you know.
I have played a jumped first guy jumped through with
Maggie Johnson. Mag Johnson. We all know how special he
is and what kind of player he is. He always
made everybody better. I would pick him. I would pick Urban.
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Then we need as far so I probably wouldn't go
real far. I'll look in the mirror and getting me
and then I'll go with Kreem Abdul Debar, who's not
gonna miss very many from the inside of the of
the paint. So I would love to have that opportunity
to play, because you know, I'm in love with basketball.
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I don't just love basketball, I'm in love with it.
So to have this kind of opportunity to play, yes,
I would have played.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I try to educate young people a little bit about
your generation. It's not easy to do because they are
so wrapped up and the guys who play now. Can
you put in context how good players were when you played,
even though the TV cameras weren't rolling as frequently as
they are today. What was it so good about your
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generation the time you spend in the NBA that made
that time special and really paved the way for superstars today.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Competitiveness. You know, we had a very competitive league. We
had guys that you know, competed on a high level
every night. We didn't have guys to take off. It
was the eighty two game season. Most our guys played
seventy nine of them or eighty of them. I played,
you know, seventy eight, seventy nine games a year, you know,
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because of the passion that I had for the game,
but also the passion that I had for the fans
that came, you know, to watch the game. I think
that's one aspect of the game have changed tremendously. You know.
Then when you start talking about players, man, you know,
I talk about a guy all the time and name
it Alex English. Alex played with the Denver Nuggets. And
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when you start talking about consistency, I wish people would
do some analytics and look at hit the building, need
to score the basketball. Alex scored over two thousand points
in his career eight times in a row. I don't
bet people really understand how hard that is to be
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that consistent to score two thousand points, you know, a season,
for eight times out of his career. So when you
start talking about great me as you talk about Julie
and Ermgan, you know, obviously I mentioned you know, Kareem.
I mean, there's just so many great guys that played
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this game, and how they're structuring and selling the game today.
They're not selling their history. I really think they missing
out or not selling the history because we are the
foundation of what this game has become. A lot of
the guys today don't really know who we are, and
we are the ones that paid the way for him.
So that's a sad part to me of the League
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of not interjecting the history of the game to get
these guys really a real platform to say thank you
for opening the door for me for I could have
this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, I agreed one hundred percent. I've said John Havlichek
is kind of an underrated player. Walt Frazier was so good.
Elvin Hayes to me was an absolute beast and not
enough people know about him. The the skill set back
then was was vast, It really was. Rick Barry was
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a hell of a player, right Pete Pete Merovich could
could play. Wes Unseld was was a bad man inside.
Those guys are those guys are tough to handle. Your
good friend, Bob Lanier, the Dobbers was was was special
out of Saint Bonaventure.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Heyman, Jimmy Walker in distance. Yeah, people don't you know,
people don't talk about them, man, People why people get
these don't get these guys the fly was that they
deserve is you know, nerve wracking something. But Matt, as
long as me and you got an opportunity to be
on air, we're gonna acknowledge these guys because these guys
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deserve the credit man of being unbelievable professionals and entertainment's
way back in the day.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
As do you. You're a four time scoring champion, a
twelve time NBA All Star, and a seven time All
NBA player. When you first got to the league, when
did it click for you that you're as good as
anybody else out there?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
You know, when I first got to the league, I
joined the AB eight, you know, and I was playing
with the Virginia Squires and Doctor j was on the team.
So when I joined the Spurs, and you know, as
a rookie, you know, Doc called me rook and both
of us sent me some years old and he still
called me rook. He'll see me say what's up, rook.
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But you know, for him to me really helped build
my confidence and self esteem about the game of basketball.
So I owed him a lot. Now after practice, men
hundred played one on one all the time, and I
mean he used to kick my butt. Man for the
first two weeks, but he was doing he was building
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up my confidence. And you know, after that second week,
you know, I had my turn to win a few.
So to be able to have that kind of support
and from a guy like him was very special, you
know to me. And I really feel that he really,
you know, gave me that one dull to let me
see that I can be a true pro in this league.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Just an incredible player and a really good guy and
a coach in the Big Three. One more for you
for George Gervin joining us on the Lindsay Hunter Foundation
guest line. You came in ABA and you're on the
ABA All Time team. You came in with Julius hur
Your last year was in Chicago with Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That sounds FACTI man, People asked me, Man, you know,
I said, Man, you know, one of the greatest opportunities
I had. I started with Doctor j and I finished
with Michael Jordan. So you know, the first thing people
want to do, who was the best?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
All right?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Both both of them was great, and I'm proud to
and privileged to had an opportunity to play with both
of them. Doctor was my hero. Michael was somebody to
me that I saw the potential in him because how
we practiced. Mike played hard just as hard and practice
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as he did in the game. And I remember one
time in the practice we were saying. I was saying, Wow,
young fellow, you know you're playing so hard each all,
each all. Old man, you know you know if you
don't want to play, going on, sit down? I said, Okay,
I'm thirty six years old. I'll go sit down. So
the ability and the potential he had was Sherry never
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knew he was going to turn out to be what
he was. But to see him play and to be
a part of watching him play for the year that
I played with him, I'm really glad I had an
opportunity to play with him because he's wanted to as
ensure the greatest ever play. But I know he's one
of the greatest.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Ever play, as are you. There's one thing that bothered
me as a young person from the state of Michigan.
You finished in the MVP race back to back years
number two. Bill Walton beat you one year, Moses Malone
the next. I'm not trying to take anything away from
those two players. Does that feel like a void to you?
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Did it bother you as much as it bothered me
as a kid.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well, I mean he think about it. I mean, especially
after your career, you know, because you know a lot
of people based a lot of things on your accomplishment
when you was playing. Yeah, you know, I felt that
I was an MVP. But Bill Walton got it that
year that I was second, and Moslim Belone got it
that next year when I was second. So I'm not
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said it's satisfied with second. Yeah, but I do appreciate
them brothers becoming MVP, and I honor him for then.
It didn't happen for me, but it didn't take nothing
away from her. I enjoyed and played that game.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Well, said Moses Malone that year. By the way, folks,
twenty five points, seventeen and a half rebounds. Elvin Hayes
finished third, Kareem fourth, Bobby Dandrich good blast from the past.
Bobby Dandrich finished fifth. Great to have you, even better
to have you representing the Detroit Amps and the city
of Detroit. We'll see you down the road. George, thanks
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for the time. We appreciate a Hall of Fame player
and a Hall of Fame person. George Gervin, have a
great day, my friend.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Okay, thank you. Matt thank you very much for you
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