April 21, 2025 • 8 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Every Monday at eight eighteen, we give you hero and heels.
Who had the best from the weekend, Who had the
worst from the weekend. There are a ton of choices,
and none of them are wrong. Doesn't have to be
an athlete, but it could be an athlete, could be
a coach, could be a player, could be a league,
could be somebody in the front office, could be somebody
in your life.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
In general.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
We welcome any of your thoughts to the Meyer hotline
eight sixty six eight three, eight forty eight forty three
or the text line Sports Radio twenty one thousand. Here's
my hero. It's new Lvi Marte and Austin Wins and
you're probably thinking, what the hell? Yeah, Redmonds, the Red's
third baseman is Marte, batting eighth in the lineup yesterday
(00:43):
against Baltimore, went five for seven with seven runs driven
in and his first career Grand Slam. Wins was hitting
right behind him in the nine hole. He went six
for seven with sick runs scored or six runs bad
than I should say.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
They combined to help Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Blow out Baltimore twenty four to two at Camden Yards.
Most runs the Reds have scored in twenty six years,
most runs the Orioles have allowed since nineteen ninety nine.
Cincinnati scored twenty four runs on twenty five hits. Marte
(01:28):
had been one for twelve on the season. Then he
goes five for seven wins, had just four hits on
the year before Sunday, and then he goes six for
seven in the game. A brutal effort to sit through
if you're an Orioles fan, but sky high if you're
(01:51):
a Reds fan. They combined Martean wins at the bottom
of the Sinci lineup, combining to go eleven for fourteen
with thirteen runs batted in.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Are our heroes of the weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
That's a great pick, and I wanted to pick that too,
but I saw that you had it on the rundown,
so I had to pivot. But what surprised me about that, chef,
was they only hit three homers. You see twenty four runs,
You think they just raked right. It was just a
lot of putting the ball in play in a lot
of good, good pieces of hitting. So yeah, there's that,
But I'll give mine to the Denver Nuggets. They've it's
been a tumultuous period here, you know, ever since they
(02:31):
fired their coach a couple of weeks ago, but they still.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Do have that quote unquote.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Championship pedigree, and they picked up a solid game one
win against the Clippers in the first round. In overtime,
they withstand a thirty two point double double from James Harden.
James Harden, by the way, turning the clocks back a
little bit as of late. But the Denver Nuggets Nikoleijokich
probably not going to win the MVP, as you talked about,
but he's more than deserving of being in that conversation.
He will be a very worthy second place finish for
(02:57):
that award.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
The Nuggets are my hero from the weekend, Yeah, I
head to stage a comeback to get it done. It
was in overtime too. You had mentioned James Harden, and
I'm glad you did because I was watching that game,
and you know how I feel about Harden. I think
he's an extremely gifted offensive player. Look, he had four threes,
win fifty percent from the floor, doesn't play a lick
(03:22):
of defense, and I think there's so much to me,
so much isolation with the Clippers. If it's not Harden,
it's Kawhi Leonard I found in watching a lot of
that game. I found a lot of people just standing
around and watching James Harden. Oh yeahdangle at the top.
(03:43):
Now he'll let those step back threes and at Trizella
isn't easy. But I just found a lot of standing
around And to me and you, as a basketball coach,
I don't care what level you're coaching at. To me,
it's it's not good team basketball.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
No, not at all. But he looked like Houston Harden
as of late. And and if that's the case, they've
got a chance to win any game. So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, it doesn't necessarily make me root for him, because
I like to see everybody involved. Number One, I thought
it was a pretty cool moment. You talk about dialing
back the clock a little bit, it's not too dissimilar
to Russell Westbrook hitting that corner three that was huge. Yep,
And it felt like it was Westbrook of old as well.
(04:24):
All right, here's my heel, speaking of the NBA. My
heel is Desmond Bane. He's the Memphis Grizzlies Guarden and
he and his team were on the downside of one
of the worst playoff losses in NBA history. Falling to
the Thunder one thirty one to eighty. The loss was
the worst for a Game one in NBA playoff history
(04:45):
and the fifth worst loss in NBA postseason play all time.
He had nine points, two boards, four turnovers. That's not
the problem, even though it's underachieving. The reason he gets
my Heel of the Week is because he was a
minus fifty one. Now yikes, Yeah, some people don't believe
in the plus minus. I heard somebody in hockey say
(05:08):
this the other day. You know, you just come off
the boards. You just come off the bench, and should
say over the boards, you're on the ice. Somebody scores,
you get the minus if it's five on five.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Hockey.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Okay, I get it. It's a little different basketball. It's
not different. It's not like you're changing on the fly.
You're supposed to guard somebody. You're supposed to be out there,
you're supposed to be doing your defensive duties, all that
other stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I just ripped on Harden to even play a lick
of defense.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
He was, at least even in that game against Denver,
Bain was a minus fifty one for the game, the
worst plus minus in NBA playoff history and it's really
not even close and it probably will never be surpassed.
Jaren Jackson Junior was a minus thirty six. Okay, John
Morant was a minus twenty five. Like the game itself,
(05:55):
brutal for the Grizzlies, every player on Memphis was a minus.
All thirteen players who played, they were a minus. They
shot thirty four and a half percent, they shut, they allowed,
they allowed the OKC thunder to shoot fifty percent, and
Memphis had twenty two turnovers. But the minus, Yeah, the
(06:18):
minus fifty one, it's hard to put your head around that.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
But that's how bad.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
As bad as Jaron Jackson was at a minus thirty six,
it's not even close.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, like you said, that might never get broken, that record.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I don't think it will.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I mean, when you look at records, it's funny when
we talk about records that will never be broken, we
always bring up the positive ones. Don't win a fifty
six game hitting streak, right, hitting four h six, the
number of strikeouts for Nolan round, all that other stuff.
The negative ones sometimes need attention to. This is one
of those, unfortunately for Desmond Bain, and that's why he's
my heel.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
How about you I've got another negative record that was
broken Kyle Kuzma. It's his first playoff action since twenty
twenty one when the Lakers dealt him to Washington and
the Russell Westbrook trade. Now on the Bucks. Like Chef said,
the momentum didn't do squad for Milwaukee going into the
Facer series. They drop game one. But here's the kicker
Kuzma started didn't do much for the Clippers either.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Kuzma starts the game, plays twenty two minutes for the
Bucks and doesn't record a single stat points, rebounds, assists, steels, blocks,
not a zero's across the board. It's the most playoff
minutes in a game in NBA history without anything to
show for it. So not a pretty showing for another
guy with championship experience. Shep and a guy with plenty
of playoff experience, and he was terrible in that game.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So yeah, we've said that all morning Long's it's amazing
we're picking shoes. Yeah, I'm not saying we're wrong. Okay,
I'm not saying it doesn't matter, but it is interesting.
We look for certain things as a criteria. And the
reason I bring it up is because last week, what
did we say leading into the series, Well, the lack
(07:55):
of playoff experience for.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
The Pistons is going to hurt them. And what did
we say?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Three guys who valuable minutes, I mean high minutes, Harris Starter, Hardaway, Starter, Beasley,
six Man of the Year candidate. Those guys all have
playoff experience. How did the playoff experience help the Box
I'm just wondering. I don't think it helped them. Damn bitt.
How much does the playoff experience help the Clippers. It's
not like Memphis doesn't have playoff experience. I think it's
(08:20):
kind of overrated. Guys settle into a groove and after
you know, maybe their first shot, like Ron Hollins first
shot was brutal, but after a while, it's like, Okay,
this is just another game. It's not like it's Game
seven of the NBA Finals and you're at the free
throw line with one point three seconds left in your
team down by one.
Every Monday at eight eighteen, we give you hero and heels.
Who had the best from the weekend, Who had the
worst from the weekend. There are a ton of choices,
and none of them are wrong. Doesn't have to be
an athlete, but it could be an athlete, could be
a coach, could be a player, could be a league,
could be somebody in the front office, could be somebody
in your life.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
In general.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
We welcome any of your thoughts to the Meyer hotline
eight sixty six eight three, eight forty eight forty three
or the text line Sports Radio twenty one thousand. Here's
my hero. It's new Lvi Marte and Austin Wins and
you're probably thinking, what the hell? Yeah, Redmonds, the Red's
third baseman is Marte, batting eighth in the lineup yesterday
(00:43):
against Baltimore, went five for seven with seven runs driven
in and his first career Grand Slam. Wins was hitting
right behind him in the nine hole. He went six
for seven with sick runs scored or six runs bad
than I should say.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
They combined to help Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Blow out Baltimore twenty four to two at Camden Yards.
Most runs the Reds have scored in twenty six years,
most runs the Orioles have allowed since nineteen ninety nine.
Cincinnati scored twenty four runs on twenty five hits. Marte
(01:28):
had been one for twelve on the season. Then he
goes five for seven wins, had just four hits on
the year before Sunday, and then he goes six for
seven in the game. A brutal effort to sit through
if you're an Orioles fan, but sky high if you're
(01:51):
a Reds fan. They combined Martean wins at the bottom
of the Sinci lineup, combining to go eleven for fourteen
with thirteen runs batted in.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Are our heroes of the weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
That's a great pick, and I wanted to pick that too,
but I saw that you had it on the rundown,
so I had to pivot. But what surprised me about that, chef,
was they only hit three homers. You see twenty four runs,
You think they just raked right. It was just a
lot of putting the ball in play in a lot
of good, good pieces of hitting. So yeah, there's that,
But I'll give mine to the Denver Nuggets. They've it's
been a tumultuous period here, you know, ever since they
(02:31):
fired their coach a couple of weeks ago, but they still.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Do have that quote unquote.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Championship pedigree, and they picked up a solid game one
win against the Clippers in the first round. In overtime,
they withstand a thirty two point double double from James Harden.
James Harden, by the way, turning the clocks back a
little bit as of late. But the Denver Nuggets Nikoleijokich
probably not going to win the MVP, as you talked about,
but he's more than deserving of being in that conversation.
He will be a very worthy second place finish for
(02:57):
that award.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
The Nuggets are my hero from the weekend, Yeah, I
head to stage a comeback to get it done. It
was in overtime too. You had mentioned James Harden, and
I'm glad you did because I was watching that game,
and you know how I feel about Harden. I think
he's an extremely gifted offensive player. Look, he had four threes,
win fifty percent from the floor, doesn't play a lick
(03:22):
of defense, and I think there's so much to me,
so much isolation with the Clippers. If it's not Harden,
it's Kawhi Leonard I found in watching a lot of
that game. I found a lot of people just standing
around and watching James Harden. Oh yeahdangle at the top.
(03:43):
Now he'll let those step back threes and at Trizella
isn't easy. But I just found a lot of standing
around And to me and you, as a basketball coach,
I don't care what level you're coaching at. To me,
it's it's not good team basketball.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
No, not at all. But he looked like Houston Harden
as of late. And and if that's the case, they've
got a chance to win any game. So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, it doesn't necessarily make me root for him, because
I like to see everybody involved. Number One, I thought
it was a pretty cool moment. You talk about dialing
back the clock a little bit, it's not too dissimilar
to Russell Westbrook hitting that corner three that was huge. Yep,
And it felt like it was Westbrook of old as well.
(04:24):
All right, here's my heel, speaking of the NBA. My
heel is Desmond Bane. He's the Memphis Grizzlies Guarden and
he and his team were on the downside of one
of the worst playoff losses in NBA history. Falling to
the Thunder one thirty one to eighty. The loss was
the worst for a Game one in NBA playoff history
(04:45):
and the fifth worst loss in NBA postseason play all time.
He had nine points, two boards, four turnovers. That's not
the problem, even though it's underachieving. The reason he gets
my Heel of the Week is because he was a
minus fifty one. Now yikes, Yeah, some people don't believe
in the plus minus. I heard somebody in hockey say
(05:08):
this the other day. You know, you just come off
the boards. You just come off the bench, and should
say over the boards, you're on the ice. Somebody scores,
you get the minus if it's five on five.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Hockey.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Okay, I get it. It's a little different basketball. It's
not different. It's not like you're changing on the fly.
You're supposed to guard somebody. You're supposed to be out there,
you're supposed to be doing your defensive duties, all that
other stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I just ripped on Harden to even play a lick
of defense.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
He was, at least even in that game against Denver,
Bain was a minus fifty one for the game, the
worst plus minus in NBA playoff history and it's really
not even close and it probably will never be surpassed.
Jaren Jackson Junior was a minus thirty six. Okay, John
Morant was a minus twenty five. Like the game itself,
(05:55):
brutal for the Grizzlies, every player on Memphis was a minus.
All thirteen players who played, they were a minus. They
shot thirty four and a half percent, they shut, they allowed,
they allowed the OKC thunder to shoot fifty percent, and
Memphis had twenty two turnovers. But the minus, Yeah, the
(06:18):
minus fifty one, it's hard to put your head around that.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
But that's how bad.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
As bad as Jaron Jackson was at a minus thirty six,
it's not even close.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, like you said, that might never get broken, that record.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I don't think it will.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I mean, when you look at records, it's funny when
we talk about records that will never be broken, we
always bring up the positive ones. Don't win a fifty
six game hitting streak, right, hitting four h six, the
number of strikeouts for Nolan round, all that other stuff.
The negative ones sometimes need attention to. This is one
of those, unfortunately for Desmond Bain, and that's why he's
my heel.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
How about you I've got another negative record that was
broken Kyle Kuzma. It's his first playoff action since twenty
twenty one when the Lakers dealt him to Washington and
the Russell Westbrook trade. Now on the Bucks. Like Chef said,
the momentum didn't do squad for Milwaukee going into the
Facer series. They drop game one. But here's the kicker
Kuzma started didn't do much for the Clippers either.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Kuzma starts the game, plays twenty two minutes for the
Bucks and doesn't record a single stat points, rebounds, assists, steels, blocks,
not a zero's across the board. It's the most playoff
minutes in a game in NBA history without anything to
show for it. So not a pretty showing for another
guy with championship experience. Shep and a guy with plenty
of playoff experience, and he was terrible in that game.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So yeah, we've said that all morning Long's it's amazing
we're picking shoes. Yeah, I'm not saying we're wrong. Okay,
I'm not saying it doesn't matter, but it is interesting.
We look for certain things as a criteria. And the
reason I bring it up is because last week, what
did we say leading into the series, Well, the lack
(07:55):
of playoff experience for.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
The Pistons is going to hurt them. And what did
we say?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Three guys who valuable minutes, I mean high minutes, Harris Starter, Hardaway, Starter, Beasley,
six Man of the Year candidate. Those guys all have
playoff experience. How did the playoff experience help the Box
I'm just wondering. I don't think it helped them. Damn bitt.
How much does the playoff experience help the Clippers. It's
not like Memphis doesn't have playoff experience. I think it's
(08:20):
kind of overrated. Guys settle into a groove and after
you know, maybe their first shot, like Ron Hollins first
shot was brutal, but after a while, it's like, Okay,
this is just another game. It's not like it's Game
seven of the NBA Finals and you're at the free
throw line with one point three seconds left in your
team down by one.
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