June 23, 2025 • 10 mins
Shep and Trent present their "Heroes and Heels" from the sports weekend, including who impressed and who did NOT.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We always give you our hero and heel of the
week or the weekend. I mean, it could go back
as far as a week. I don't know how far
you want to look back. It's up to you. But
we're looking for the best and the worst. Could be
a team, could be a player, could be an organization,
could be a referee, could be an umpire. Doesn't even
have to be sports related if you don't want it
(00:21):
to be. Every Monday we do hero and heel. So
let's begin with the hero. For me, it's LSU Baseball, right,
LSU Baseball. Yeah. College World Series concluded over the weekend.
Tigers beat Coastal Carolina five to three in Omaha to
sweep their way to their second College World Series in
(00:41):
three years and their eighth overall. There's only one school
that has more College World Series titles than LSU. It's USC.
LSU has won theirs, all of theirs, eight of them
since nineteen ninety one. One. USC can't say that Coastal
(01:03):
Carolina had entered on a twenty six game role only
to watch Louisiana State knock them off in thrilling fashion
finish the year at fifty three and fifteen. Like we
think they play a lot of games in college football
and perhaps college basketball college baseball. Think about that, sixty
(01:23):
eight games. Head coach Jay Johnston has won four championships
in his first or two championships in his first four years.
First coach to ever do that the SEC. I get
tired of this too, man, I do. But the SEC
has now won college baseball's crown eleven times in the
last sixteen years. I'm just think about this for a second. Wow,
(01:46):
isn't that something? That is? How many times do people
tell you and I that the SEC is the best
football conference in America? One hundred times out of one hundred? Yeah,
all the time. Do they say the same thing about basketball?
A lot of times they do, don't they? They try? Well? Florida, Kentucky, right,
(02:10):
I mean, Kentucky's a blue blood enness. He's been really good.
Alabama Auburn right recently. I mean, we can fight for
the Big Ten like you and I do. I get it.
You and I are passionate about that. Do you honestly
think we're right? No? You honestly look at it and
(02:30):
go I mean, no, I don't. The Big Ten is
the last two national championship. It's tough to admit, but no,
I don't think we're right now. But in football, you
and I'm Michigan Ohio State have won the national champion
the last two years. Does that change anybody's mind? Do
you think? No?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Okay, because they'll point to the last you know, two
decades or whatever they have to point to to fit
their argument, just like you and I will point the
last two years.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
The fit ours exactly and they're probably more right. There's
no question. There is no question who the best conference
in college baseball is. And I know people don't follow
it quite as closely. They don't love it as much. Trent,
you and your buddies should make it a point someday.
Go to LSU for a football game. It's really cool.
(03:18):
But go check out their baseball stadium that seats well
over ten thousand, and there is a waiting list to
get on the season ticket holder list. They love their
baseball there. I love baseball, and I know you do too.
I know know your grandfather does, your dad does. It's
really hard to debate how good that baseball conferences and
(03:42):
specifically that school. They're my hero for the weekend. How
about you?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Great answer, I will say Here's the thing, sheppe. It
would be easy to say the Oklahoma City Thunder for
winning their first trophy and their young franchisees history. It'd
be easy to say Shay Gilgis, Alexander or Jalen Williams.
But I'm going to go with Isaiah Hartenstein, the twenty
seven year old German American. He's on his sixth team
(04:06):
in his career. He was drafted in twenty seventeen, played
a lot in the G League, worked his way into
an NBA mainstay, finally marked a career high in minutes
per game this season. He started fifty three games for
the Thunder, career highs and points, rebounds, double double average.
Finally an NBA champion. Good for you, young fella. Isaiah
(04:28):
Hartenstein is my hero from the weekend.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Very cool. Would not have gone there, would not have
thinked to go there. But I like that you did
well done. All right, here's the heel. This is the
worst of the weekend. Again, doesn't have to be always
sports related. And I hate doing this. It really do.
It brings you no pleasure. It doesn't, I mean, it
really doesn't. Tommy Fleetwood, he had a one shot lead
(04:53):
airing the final hole of the Travelers Championship in Hartford Sunday,
hit a perfect drive, really did. Then he chose to
change clubs. On his approach, he had a club in
his bag. He's thinking, he's overthinking it. He goes to
the club and grabs a pitching witch. I'm not familiar
with how far his distance is for each iron For
(05:15):
Tommy Fleetwood, immediately the analyst said, that's in so many words,
that's not a good sign. I wonder how they would
have changed their mind if it had been a really
good shot. But it wasn't a great shot. His pitching
wedge was well shore. Fifty foot birdie attempt. He missed
the power putt after that. That opened the door for
(05:36):
Keegan Bradley, who threw a dart from one hundred and
thirty eight yards to with him five six feet sank
the birdie putt went the event for the second time
by a stroke. Fleetwood now has forty two top tens
and remains winless on the PGA Tour. I'm going to
make it adndum here. I'm also bringing an Angel Campos
(05:58):
into this. Heel oo. Do you know who he is? No? Okay,
he's the home played umpire in the College World Series
game between Coastal Carolina and LSU. Okay, now I know
where you're going, he ejected. Coastal Carolina had baseball coach
Kevin Schnall and first based coach Matt Shilling in the
(06:20):
first inning of that College World Series. No. Remember, it's
a two out of three. You're gonna win two out
of three to win the championship. LSU won game one
Friday or Saturday and then played yesterday, and in the
first inning, these both both these men get ejected. Snall
was upset for what he thought was a miss balls
and strikes call. Shilling was tough to have to arguing
(06:43):
in defense of his coach. The home played umpire, Angel
Campost throws him out. There's twenty five twenty twenty five
thousand people there at Omaha. Hard to hear. I get that.
But Shnall was arguing that Campos was telling him to
get out of here, and he said, I'm giving you
(07:07):
a warning, your bench of warning for arguing balls and strikes.
And here's what the manager said. Schnell said, that's because
you've missed three. I mean I was watching this whole game. Yeah,
you've missed three, and then he gets the thumb. First
base coach comes walking in, jogging in. Overweight guys have
(07:28):
a hard time jugging Madd Shillings. MATD Shillings starts to
argue in defense of his manager. The third base umpire
comes running in. I think he's the crew chief. He stumbles,
he trips and falls down. Immediately goes too like he's
been because he's saying that the first base coach bumped
(07:49):
him when he didn't. He was just embarrassed by it. Anyway,
long way around, Angel Campos became more of a story
than he should have been. Yes, my second heel of
the weekend. How about your heel? Okay, see, thunder fans,
here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Celebrate your championship all you want, rightfully, so first championship
in franchise history.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
But when Tyrese Haliburton went down, I think it was
the loudest it was in that building all season until
the final buzzer when they were actually celebrating with the confetti.
Cheering when someone is hurt is just shameful. I understand.
In that moment, as fans, shep, we get so overcome
(08:31):
with emotion. We're like, oh my gosh, it's game seven.
Their best players just went down. He's hurt, but you
cannot cheer. I remember a similar situation in twenty nineteen
when the Toronto Raptors, they're going for their first championship.
Game six, Kevin Durant pops's achilles. I'm sure you remember
this too, shep The crowd went berserk, and I just
(08:53):
think it's pathetic when something like that happens. So thunder
fans are my heel from the weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I don't wish, you know, injury on any elite athlete.
I don't I want I could be in the minority here.
I want my team, my favorite team. I want my
team to beat the other teams at full strength, so
there's no question, there's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, you don't want an asterisk that's your championship.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, I'm not saying there is that would go that far.
But I don't want anyone to be able to say,
but if we had dot dot dot. Now I've done it,
so I'm guilty. I've done it. I said in eighty eight,
you know the phantom call, I was complaining about that.
But in eighty seven, remember I've said, who knows if
Vinnie Johnson and Ajen Dantly don't collide heads. Who knows
(09:46):
what could have happened, but I don't take anything away
from what Boston did. I hope more people are looking
at it like, you know what. I want to beat
the best team at their full strength, so there is
leaves no doubt.
We always give you our hero and heel of the
week or the weekend. I mean, it could go back
as far as a week. I don't know how far
you want to look back. It's up to you. But
we're looking for the best and the worst. Could be
a team, could be a player, could be an organization,
could be a referee, could be an umpire. Doesn't even
have to be sports related if you don't want it
(00:21):
to be. Every Monday we do hero and heel. So
let's begin with the hero. For me, it's LSU Baseball, right,
LSU Baseball. Yeah. College World Series concluded over the weekend.
Tigers beat Coastal Carolina five to three in Omaha to
sweep their way to their second College World Series in
(00:41):
three years and their eighth overall. There's only one school
that has more College World Series titles than LSU. It's USC.
LSU has won theirs, all of theirs, eight of them
since nineteen ninety one. One. USC can't say that Coastal
(01:03):
Carolina had entered on a twenty six game role only
to watch Louisiana State knock them off in thrilling fashion
finish the year at fifty three and fifteen. Like we
think they play a lot of games in college football
and perhaps college basketball college baseball. Think about that, sixty
(01:23):
eight games. Head coach Jay Johnston has won four championships
in his first or two championships in his first four years.
First coach to ever do that the SEC. I get
tired of this too, man, I do. But the SEC
has now won college baseball's crown eleven times in the
last sixteen years. I'm just think about this for a second. Wow,
(01:46):
isn't that something? That is? How many times do people
tell you and I that the SEC is the best
football conference in America? One hundred times out of one hundred? Yeah,
all the time. Do they say the same thing about basketball?
A lot of times they do, don't they? They try? Well? Florida, Kentucky, right,
(02:10):
I mean, Kentucky's a blue blood enness. He's been really good.
Alabama Auburn right recently. I mean, we can fight for
the Big Ten like you and I do. I get it.
You and I are passionate about that. Do you honestly
think we're right? No? You honestly look at it and
(02:30):
go I mean, no, I don't. The Big Ten is
the last two national championship. It's tough to admit, but no,
I don't think we're right now. But in football, you
and I'm Michigan Ohio State have won the national champion
the last two years. Does that change anybody's mind? Do
you think? No?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Okay, because they'll point to the last you know, two
decades or whatever they have to point to to fit
their argument, just like you and I will point the
last two years.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
The fit ours exactly and they're probably more right. There's
no question. There is no question who the best conference
in college baseball is. And I know people don't follow
it quite as closely. They don't love it as much. Trent,
you and your buddies should make it a point someday.
Go to LSU for a football game. It's really cool.
(03:18):
But go check out their baseball stadium that seats well
over ten thousand, and there is a waiting list to
get on the season ticket holder list. They love their
baseball there. I love baseball, and I know you do too.
I know know your grandfather does, your dad does. It's
really hard to debate how good that baseball conferences and
(03:42):
specifically that school. They're my hero for the weekend. How
about you?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Great answer, I will say Here's the thing, sheppe. It
would be easy to say the Oklahoma City Thunder for
winning their first trophy and their young franchisees history. It'd
be easy to say Shay Gilgis, Alexander or Jalen Williams.
But I'm going to go with Isaiah Hartenstein, the twenty
seven year old German American. He's on his sixth team
(04:06):
in his career. He was drafted in twenty seventeen, played
a lot in the G League, worked his way into
an NBA mainstay, finally marked a career high in minutes
per game this season. He started fifty three games for
the Thunder, career highs and points, rebounds, double double average.
Finally an NBA champion. Good for you, young fella. Isaiah
(04:28):
Hartenstein is my hero from the weekend.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Very cool. Would not have gone there, would not have
thinked to go there. But I like that you did
well done. All right, here's the heel. This is the
worst of the weekend. Again, doesn't have to be always
sports related. And I hate doing this. It really do.
It brings you no pleasure. It doesn't, I mean, it
really doesn't. Tommy Fleetwood, he had a one shot lead
(04:53):
airing the final hole of the Travelers Championship in Hartford Sunday,
hit a perfect drive, really did. Then he chose to
change clubs. On his approach, he had a club in
his bag. He's thinking, he's overthinking it. He goes to
the club and grabs a pitching witch. I'm not familiar
with how far his distance is for each iron For
(05:15):
Tommy Fleetwood, immediately the analyst said, that's in so many words,
that's not a good sign. I wonder how they would
have changed their mind if it had been a really
good shot. But it wasn't a great shot. His pitching
wedge was well shore. Fifty foot birdie attempt. He missed
the power putt after that. That opened the door for
(05:36):
Keegan Bradley, who threw a dart from one hundred and
thirty eight yards to with him five six feet sank
the birdie putt went the event for the second time
by a stroke. Fleetwood now has forty two top tens
and remains winless on the PGA Tour. I'm going to
make it adndum here. I'm also bringing an Angel Campos
(05:58):
into this. Heel oo. Do you know who he is? No? Okay,
he's the home played umpire in the College World Series
game between Coastal Carolina and LSU. Okay, now I know
where you're going, he ejected. Coastal Carolina had baseball coach
Kevin Schnall and first based coach Matt Shilling in the
(06:20):
first inning of that College World Series. No. Remember, it's
a two out of three. You're gonna win two out
of three to win the championship. LSU won game one
Friday or Saturday and then played yesterday, and in the
first inning, these both both these men get ejected. Snall
was upset for what he thought was a miss balls
and strikes call. Shilling was tough to have to arguing
(06:43):
in defense of his coach. The home played umpire, Angel
Campost throws him out. There's twenty five twenty twenty five
thousand people there at Omaha. Hard to hear. I get that.
But Shnall was arguing that Campos was telling him to
get out of here, and he said, I'm giving you
(07:07):
a warning, your bench of warning for arguing balls and strikes.
And here's what the manager said. Schnell said, that's because
you've missed three. I mean I was watching this whole game. Yeah,
you've missed three, and then he gets the thumb. First
base coach comes walking in, jogging in. Overweight guys have
(07:28):
a hard time jugging Madd Shillings. MATD Shillings starts to
argue in defense of his manager. The third base umpire
comes running in. I think he's the crew chief. He stumbles,
he trips and falls down. Immediately goes too like he's
been because he's saying that the first base coach bumped
(07:49):
him when he didn't. He was just embarrassed by it. Anyway,
long way around, Angel Campos became more of a story
than he should have been. Yes, my second heel of
the weekend. How about your heel? Okay, see, thunder fans,
here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Celebrate your championship all you want, rightfully, so first championship
in franchise history.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
But when Tyrese Haliburton went down, I think it was
the loudest it was in that building all season until
the final buzzer when they were actually celebrating with the confetti.
Cheering when someone is hurt is just shameful. I understand.
In that moment, as fans, shep, we get so overcome
(08:31):
with emotion. We're like, oh my gosh, it's game seven.
Their best players just went down. He's hurt, but you
cannot cheer. I remember a similar situation in twenty nineteen
when the Toronto Raptors, they're going for their first championship.
Game six, Kevin Durant pops's achilles. I'm sure you remember
this too, shep The crowd went berserk, and I just
(08:53):
think it's pathetic when something like that happens. So thunder
fans are my heel from the weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I don't wish, you know, injury on any elite athlete.
I don't I want I could be in the minority here.
I want my team, my favorite team. I want my
team to beat the other teams at full strength, so
there's no question, there's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, you don't want an asterisk that's your championship.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, I'm not saying there is that would go that far.
But I don't want anyone to be able to say,
but if we had dot dot dot. Now I've done it,
so I'm guilty. I've done it. I said in eighty eight,
you know the phantom call, I was complaining about that.
But in eighty seven, remember I've said, who knows if
Vinnie Johnson and Ajen Dantly don't collide heads. Who knows
(09:46):
what could have happened, but I don't take anything away
from what Boston did. I hope more people are looking
at it like, you know what. I want to beat
the best team at their full strength, so there is
leaves no doubt.
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