August 8, 2025 • 6 mins
With the Lions' backup quarterback situation causing a stir, could they be in play to trade for Kirk Cousins? And if so, what would it take to acquire the veteran?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Trent was was asking me a couple of breaks ago,
what would it take to get a guy like Kirk Cousins.
I wonder quickly, what would it take for people to
start asking for the backup in Detroit rather than Jared
(00:20):
Goff because that has always been, as you know, that
has always been the you know, the the best position
in Detroit sports. Oh, by the way, did you find
out who who any team that brought on a quarterback
over the last day?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, okay, were you thinking of the Browns with Tyler Huntley?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
No? No, because we talked about that and he's one
of the guys that I wanted the Lions to reach
out to. Remember, I say, Carson Wentz, Tyler Huntley, and
I do believe what I thought it was going to
be Kenny Pickett. Maybe it won't be Shador Sanders is
going to start for Cleveland in their first preseason game.
I thought Kenny Pickett might be the odd man out
since everybody says Joe Flacco is going to start. Are
they really going to waste two draft picks. You're not
(01:02):
going to be able to slide one of them through
waivers in order to get on the practice squad. So
I thought it might be Kenny Pickett as the odd
man out.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
The Steelers signed Logan Woodside. That's what it is, Okay,
on a Toledo from that guy.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yep, Yep, that's what it was. Thank you. That's exactly it.
But you asked about Kirk Cousins. You know, I think
I don't know how it always works in the world
of contracts.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm just curious what his trade value is because they're
very clearly moved on. I mean, they benched the guy
while they were still in contention for the playoffs for
crying out loud. That came down to Week eighteen for
the Falcons. He wasn't playing well though, I know. But
my point is they've moved on to Michael Pennox, yet
Kirk Cousins is still on the roster, and a team
like Detroit that desperately needs a backup, what would the
(01:53):
asking price be. I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, I think it's I think it's it's fair to wonder. Yeah,
I've thought the same thing. Do you think Atlanta is
desperate for a backup?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Uh? No, not with him? Why because they got Michael
PENNOCKX and they got Kirk Cousins, right, behind.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Him, I know, but we're talking about backup. So why
in other words, why would Atlanta trade you? And I
would agree he's If he's not the best, he's one
of the best backups in.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yes, okay. If Michael Pennick struggles or gets hurt because
he's not super mobile, if one of those two things happens,
what's Atlanta doing? Why would you trade Kirk Cousins Ray?
My guess would be somewhere in the neighborhood of a
fourth or fifth round pick. That would be my guess.
(02:43):
I think we overvalue certain things.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I could be rung there.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I think we're Oh, my gosh, is he going to
get a first round draft pick? Hell? No, he's not
going to get a first round draft pick. Maybe fourth
is too low, but I think it's pretty close. I
think it's pretty damn close to it. I guess the
rate would be around a fourth round draft pick. We
should look up past backup quarterbacks and what they've been
traded for. There's been you know, you and I both
(03:11):
know this. There's been a lot of guys, man, a
lot of guys who have had success in this league
as a starter. Not maybe Pro Bowl status, but Mac
Jones has had some success, Jimmy Garoppolo has had some success. Right,
you wouldn't mind having them as a backup. I don't
(03:31):
think you want him starting every single week, but you
wouldn't mind having him as a backup.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Let me ask you this, do you think Kirk Cousins
would be Just off the top of my head, I
think he's the best backup in the league.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
No, well, yeah, we had that conversation I would I
would say, yeah, So then I think I think so.
I mean, that's just look at different guys and you're
figuring out who. It's a trust factor, is it not?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh, it totally is. So then maybe this is a
question can ask Mark Zeno at eight thirty five. But
what it I mean, Atlanta clearly is committed to Michael Pennox,
as they should be, So then what's the harm in
trading a guy like that like Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Because again, I think they have to be prepared for
their team too, if I don't know their depth chart.
So I mean, this is something Mark will be able
to answer at the bottom of the hour. If not
Kirk Cousins, then who if you trade Kirk Cousins. Then
what And again, I think you have to be on
the lookout for who takes over as the backup. I
(04:36):
think that's a fair thing to wonder, don't you. Yes,
you and I are wondering and in our backup stink.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
But that's what That's kind of where the question came from. Shep.
I'm trying to think of. You know, the Lions might
have one of the worst backup quarterback situations in the NFL.
We'll see tonight how Hendon Hooker looks, and the Atlanta
Falcons might have number one the best. So I just
but if you haven't curious, ho.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Would you get rid of them? Because they're third string
quarterback is East and stick yikes exactly. So if you're
the Falcons, I'm just trying to look at it from
their perspective. And you're going into the season. Michael Pennix
has got a few starts under his belt, but you
haven't come to a determination whether or not you think
he's the he's the guy, do you? I know?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Not? But they hope he's the future. That's what they're thinking.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Absolutely, be careful with hope though, what if he doesn't
work out? We've seen that happen, Hi, Zach Wilson, You've
got to be ready for that's.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Also that's also chepe why I think the value of
Kirk Cousins might be driven up because they know that
teams might be desperate for a backup quote unquote like
Kirk Cousins, who could probably still start in the league.
In fact, I know he could still start, but he.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Could also he could also start as you just mentioned
for Atlanta. Yeah, and I need to take a look
at my team and make sure I've put it in
the best case scenario. Now, the money is a different thing.
Last year, or was it last year? Can he pick
It was traded for a fifth round pick. Now, Kirk
Cousins is more established than Kenny Pickett. But remember I
said fourth round. I think that's the value I do.
(06:08):
Would I surrender a fourth round pick for a backup
who we hope is never going to play. That's why
so many people use mid round picks and try to
develop these young guys. You want to get rid of
a fourth round pick who should be a contributor on
your football team. I don't know if he's going to
be a starter, but he should be a contributor. And
(06:30):
you're going to do that for a guy you hope again,
there's that word is never going to play. That's a
tough one to surrender. That's why Kenny Pickett for a
fifth round or made sense. But if you're Atlanta, Easton
Stick and Emery Jones literally two guys, you felt like, yeah,
you could have met them at Denny's this morning and
(06:51):
you wouldn't know
Trent was was asking me a couple of breaks ago,
what would it take to get a guy like Kirk Cousins.
I wonder quickly, what would it take for people to
start asking for the backup in Detroit rather than Jared
(00:20):
Goff because that has always been, as you know, that
has always been the you know, the the best position
in Detroit sports. Oh, by the way, did you find
out who who any team that brought on a quarterback
over the last day?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, okay, were you thinking of the Browns with Tyler Huntley?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
No? No, because we talked about that and he's one
of the guys that I wanted the Lions to reach
out to. Remember, I say, Carson Wentz, Tyler Huntley, and
I do believe what I thought it was going to
be Kenny Pickett. Maybe it won't be Shador Sanders is
going to start for Cleveland in their first preseason game.
I thought Kenny Pickett might be the odd man out
since everybody says Joe Flacco is going to start. Are
they really going to waste two draft picks. You're not
(01:02):
going to be able to slide one of them through
waivers in order to get on the practice squad. So
I thought it might be Kenny Pickett as the odd
man out.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
The Steelers signed Logan Woodside. That's what it is, Okay,
on a Toledo from that guy.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yep, Yep, that's what it was. Thank you. That's exactly it.
But you asked about Kirk Cousins. You know, I think
I don't know how it always works in the world
of contracts.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm just curious what his trade value is because they're
very clearly moved on. I mean, they benched the guy
while they were still in contention for the playoffs for
crying out loud. That came down to Week eighteen for
the Falcons. He wasn't playing well though, I know. But
my point is they've moved on to Michael Pennox, yet
Kirk Cousins is still on the roster, and a team
like Detroit that desperately needs a backup, what would the
(01:53):
asking price be. I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, I think it's I think it's it's fair to wonder. Yeah,
I've thought the same thing. Do you think Atlanta is
desperate for a backup?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Uh? No, not with him? Why because they got Michael
PENNOCKX and they got Kirk Cousins, right, behind.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Him, I know, but we're talking about backup. So why
in other words, why would Atlanta trade you? And I
would agree he's If he's not the best, he's one
of the best backups in.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yes, okay. If Michael Pennick struggles or gets hurt because
he's not super mobile, if one of those two things happens,
what's Atlanta doing? Why would you trade Kirk Cousins Ray?
My guess would be somewhere in the neighborhood of a
fourth or fifth round pick. That would be my guess.
(02:43):
I think we overvalue certain things.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I could be rung there.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I think we're Oh, my gosh, is he going to
get a first round draft pick? Hell? No, he's not
going to get a first round draft pick. Maybe fourth
is too low, but I think it's pretty close. I
think it's pretty damn close to it. I guess the
rate would be around a fourth round draft pick. We
should look up past backup quarterbacks and what they've been
traded for. There's been you know, you and I both
(03:11):
know this. There's been a lot of guys, man, a
lot of guys who have had success in this league
as a starter. Not maybe Pro Bowl status, but Mac
Jones has had some success, Jimmy Garoppolo has had some success. Right,
you wouldn't mind having them as a backup. I don't
(03:31):
think you want him starting every single week, but you
wouldn't mind having him as a backup.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Let me ask you this, do you think Kirk Cousins
would be Just off the top of my head, I
think he's the best backup in the league.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
No, well, yeah, we had that conversation I would I
would say, yeah, So then I think I think so.
I mean, that's just look at different guys and you're
figuring out who. It's a trust factor, is it not?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh, it totally is. So then maybe this is a
question can ask Mark Zeno at eight thirty five. But
what it I mean, Atlanta clearly is committed to Michael Pennox,
as they should be, So then what's the harm in
trading a guy like that like Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Because again, I think they have to be prepared for
their team too, if I don't know their depth chart.
So I mean, this is something Mark will be able
to answer at the bottom of the hour. If not
Kirk Cousins, then who if you trade Kirk Cousins. Then
what And again, I think you have to be on
the lookout for who takes over as the backup. I
(04:36):
think that's a fair thing to wonder, don't you. Yes,
you and I are wondering and in our backup stink.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
But that's what That's kind of where the question came from. Shep.
I'm trying to think of. You know, the Lions might
have one of the worst backup quarterback situations in the NFL.
We'll see tonight how Hendon Hooker looks, and the Atlanta
Falcons might have number one the best. So I just
but if you haven't curious, ho.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Would you get rid of them? Because they're third string
quarterback is East and stick yikes exactly. So if you're
the Falcons, I'm just trying to look at it from
their perspective. And you're going into the season. Michael Pennix
has got a few starts under his belt, but you
haven't come to a determination whether or not you think
he's the he's the guy, do you? I know?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Not? But they hope he's the future. That's what they're thinking.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Absolutely, be careful with hope though, what if he doesn't
work out? We've seen that happen, Hi, Zach Wilson, You've
got to be ready for that's.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Also that's also chepe why I think the value of
Kirk Cousins might be driven up because they know that
teams might be desperate for a backup quote unquote like
Kirk Cousins, who could probably still start in the league.
In fact, I know he could still start, but he.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Could also he could also start as you just mentioned
for Atlanta. Yeah, and I need to take a look
at my team and make sure I've put it in
the best case scenario. Now, the money is a different thing.
Last year, or was it last year? Can he pick
It was traded for a fifth round pick. Now, Kirk
Cousins is more established than Kenny Pickett. But remember I
said fourth round. I think that's the value I do.
(06:08):
Would I surrender a fourth round pick for a backup
who we hope is never going to play. That's why
so many people use mid round picks and try to
develop these young guys. You want to get rid of
a fourth round pick who should be a contributor on
your football team. I don't know if he's going to
be a starter, but he should be a contributor. And
(06:30):
you're going to do that for a guy you hope again,
there's that word is never going to play. That's a
tough one to surrender. That's why Kenny Pickett for a
fifth round or made sense. But if you're Atlanta, Easton
Stick and Emery Jones literally two guys, you felt like, yeah,
you could have met them at Denny's this morning and
(06:51):
you wouldn't know
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