October 25, 2024 • 15 mins
Jake Lyman, who covers the Tennessee Titans, joins the show from Nashville to preview Titans @ Lions on Sunday, react to the DeAndre Hopkins trade, and give an outside-looking-in perspective on what Detroit has in its football team and quarterback Jared Goff.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We care about what's going on Sunday at Ford Field.
It'll be the Lions and the Titans. Detroit on a
major role. Jake Lyman covers the Titans. You can follow
him on x at Liman Jake and he joins us
here on Exus and Bros.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Jake. Thanks for the time, man. How you doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Doing good?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Thanks for having me, Matt.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Anytime your defense is so good, or the Titans defense,
they should say is so good. They are number two
in the league and number three against the pass. Obviously,
the offense has struggled. What do you think has been
the Achilles Heel overall for the Titans this season in
a disappointing season.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I guess it depends on the game. There's been games
when Will Webbs has kind of been the Achilles Heel,
when he's given the ball away in ways that we
didn't think were possible before. Sometimes it's spend the offensive line,
and then last week against the Bills, Titans jump out
to attend to lead and then the defense that's been
(01:02):
so great gives up thirty four unanswered to Josh Allen.
So it's kind of been a different problem every week.
But I guess, if you want to point to one thing,
the offensive line has had its fair share of struggles,
and then whoever's been in their quarterback really hasn't been
able to make much happen or they've been making bad
things happen for the Titans.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Jacob, I want your perspective on quarterbacks and what Nashville
and the state of Tennessee feel about you, Will Levis.
How long do you give a guy and are they
close to giving up on a young, talented guy who's
got a really good arm but just doesn't seem to
make the right decisions.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, it's kind of a weird dynamic with Will Levis
because heading into the season, there was such a contrast
between how national people felt about Will Levis and how
people in Nashville felt about Nashville kind of felt like
we had the guy heading into this season, and then
(02:01):
after that Chicago game where he makes the flailing pick
sixth that kind of gives the game away. I think
that looked a lot of people to thinking, oh, maybe
this isn't who we thought he was, and he really
hasn't done much to turn people back in the right
direction since then. I still am of the belief that
you got to give a young quarterback about twenty starts
(02:22):
in the league to really know what you have. And
he's still sitting around fourteen to fifteen right now. He
won't play on Sunday against the Lions. So I think
he's going to get as many chances this season as
he can. We kind of know what Mason Rudolph is
at this point where he's not going to show you
(02:44):
something that makes you think he's a long term plan
for this Titan team. So I think Leavis will get
as many chances as he can this year. But it's
looking more and more like the Titans will be looking
for a quarterback in the draft or in free agency
next season.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well that's been the what's been the age old argument too.
You've got to have some talent around him, right, So
the Giants tried to do that for example for Daniel Jones,
and it hasn't necessarily worked out this year. Washington has
it in Jaden Daniels and the talent he has around.
Caleb Williams has it in Chicago with a trio of
really good receivers. Does Tennessee have enough talent around will
(03:20):
Levis for you to actually give him the benefit of
the doubt or at least a decent look at whether
or not he can be the future quarterback. And you
had mentioned the offensive line. When I say offensive talent,
I'm not talking just about skill positions. I'm talking about
the big boys up front.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Two right and Brian Callahan part On have both said
heading into the season that their main goal was trying
to figure out what they have and Will levin. So
they tried to surround him with as much talent as
they could, bringing in veteran receivers by Calvin Redleady, Pylot Boyd,
and those guys really haven't seemed to work out. And
(03:58):
they drafted JC Latham's seventh over all at left tackle,
brought in Lloyd Kushienberry at center. So they tried this
around him with talent. Some of those guys have worked out,
some of them haven't. But Will Levis clearly hasn't elevated
the talent around him. And I think that's been the
biggest thing, is that you clearly have more pieces around
you this year than last year and taking a step back,
(04:20):
which isn't a good sign for the young quarterback.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's a good point. Jake Lyman joins us here covers
the Titans. You can follow him on Twitter at Lyman Jake.
So you mentioned the talent. DeAndre Hopkins was seen as
one of those guys too. Now most people would concede
he's passed his prime, but he's still a decent receiver.
They trade him away to Kansas City. What was your
feeling on that for a mid round pick.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I felt like that one kind of felt inevitable. Once
you sell the one to five that you're probably going
to try and sell off some of your expiring contracts
for whatever you can get. The Titans already had traded
away their third round pick the Lagarious need this past offseason,
so I think rand Carthon wanted to recoup some of
(05:06):
that draft capital and DeAndre Hopkins being an older guy
who you want to see him be able to chase
a ring towards the end of his year. And I
think Rand Carthon kind of did right by DeAndre Hopkins
sending him to the Chiefs. I'm not sure how the
rest of the AFC or the NFL feels about that,
but I think he wanted to send him to a
(05:28):
contender and they got back what they could for.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
What other moves do you anticipate this team possibly.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Making Well, they traded away Ernest Jones as well back
on Wednesday, who they least six games, so it's not
like he was here all that long. I would say,
maybe you see a move with Kandre Diggs the Obviously
you guys are familiar with him, and I think maybe
(05:57):
he should be a guy that gets moved being on
just a one year be the one to keep an
eye on. And I know there have been some Lions
fans who have mentioned him as a possible movie Detroit
could make. Is Harold Landry right right? He's been great
for the past a year and a half since he
got back from his ACL injury. I think that could
be a possible fit with Aiden Hutchinson after the season,
(06:20):
then maybe if you can get a Day two pickback
for Harold Landry, that might be a move that makes sense.
But that's a question for Ran Carthon and this Titan
death of do you see Harold Landry in your long
term plans because he is under contract next season.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, that was my next question.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I'm glad you brought that up because when I first
think of this, I think, well, he doesn't replace Aiden Hutchinson.
He's not necessarily a defensive vander or a pass rusher,
and then you'd see your remember, well, wait a minute.
Two years ago he had twelve sacks. Last year at
ten and a half sacks, this year he's got four.
Who do you compare him to?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Who is he like?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
If you're a Lions fan in trying to monitor that
a little bit, he is not Aiden Hutchinson or Max
Crosby or Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Who is he like? And what does he add?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Do you think if Detroy were to kick the tires
on that deal?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, you're right, Harold l Andry. He is your traditional
defensive end. He's more of a stand up outside linebacker.
So obviously not in the same you're a talent as
like a von Miller, but kind of that style of
player where he's he's not going to be a hand
in the dirt, but he's going to be your three
to four rush out side linebackers, great speed rusher around
(07:36):
the edge, and they'll drop him in the coverage too
when they can. They'll drop him out and see if
they can bait the quarterback into some some mistakes. So
he is he is a pass rusher, but agreed with
you there that he is not the same style as
Aiden Hudson, even though he may be able to add
some stack production into that line's defense.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
How do you view the Lions?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I mean the Lions. That's a team that I think
Titans fans over the last couple of weeks have been
trying to say, maybe that's how you emulate it is.
You don't have to have the elite quarterback. But if
you have a Jared gaff who can be a distributor
and the point guard type guy, and surround him with
(08:22):
a good offensive line and good young talent like Amin Ross,
Named Brown and Jamier Gibbs and Sam Laporta, you can
put yourself in a Super Bowl conversation. So the Lions
from the outside, that's a team that if I had
to pick a team in the NFC right now to
go to the Super Bowl, I think I would have
a hard time not picking Detroit. So I don't think
(08:45):
there are many Titans fans. I said on our radio
show last night, I don't think this game is going
to go very well for Tennessee. And maybe if you've
got some plans in the afternoon, you might be able
to get a head start on them. Because this game
could be over by.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, I guarantee you. As soon as you said that,
my producer Trent Bally started screaming, let's go just a
football discussion between two guys who love the game.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You said Jared Goff.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
More of a point guard distributor, and I don't think
he meant it as a negative. But no, let me
just take it from just those words. Why wouldn't you
think he is I don't think he's a great quarterback,
but I think he's having a great season. Why is
he not in the discussion of a guy who is
top ten quarterback in the NFL? Because I think he is,
(09:34):
and that doesn't make him great, Jake, But when you
say emulate a team like Detroit, well you don't have
to have a great quarterback. There aren't that many great
quarterbacks anyway, right, So why wouldn't Jared Goff be in
the discussion of having as a very good quarterback and
a guy who's having a great season.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's a very good point. And honestly, I may consider
Jared Goff's top ten quarterback right now in the league too,
even though I don't view him in the same way
as I view a Patrick Mahomes or a Josh Allen
or a Joe Burrow, where those guys it feels like
whatever you put around them, they can make it work.
(10:14):
Like Patrick Mahomes until they traded pretty odd Hopkins. Outside
of Travis Kelsey, he doesn't have much to throw to,
but they're six and oh somehow.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I agree Rush's Rushie Rice is pretty damn good. But
you're right, I'm with you on that he makes more
with less. But he's not having a great year.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Jay. He's got six touchdowns, six picks.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That's right. He leads the NFL in interceptions. But I
kind of view it, and I'm sure that you guys
felt the same way. Or about Ryan Tannehill when he
was with the Tighters in twenty three teams through twenty
twenty one. But he found a way to win with
guys like Derrick Henry and AJ Brown around him and
got them to the number one seed in the AFC
(10:56):
in twenty twenty one. So the fans had that feeling
about Ryan Hannahill is why isn't he considered in the
elite level of quarterbacks. I think Jared Gof's a better
quarterback than Bryan Tannehill, But I think it's in the
same way that he isn't a game changer, even though
he's maybe having one of the best seasons across the NFL.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, I think that's a good way to describe it.
I think he is a game changer. I think he
is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL right now.
I like Joe Burrow a lot. I think he's a
top five quarterback, so I'm not going to argue, but
I do. I am a little surprised at the universal
love for Joe Burrow when his team is three and four.
He is like two to eight in the first two
(11:37):
weeks of his career or even worse than that, and
he's gone to one Super Bowl and lost. Jared Gof's
going to Super Bowl and lost, And he's got the
best team in the NFC right now, And you can
make the argument they're the best team in the NFL.
I'm not saying you, but I think in general, I'm
not sure Jared gov gets near. You know, everybody talks
about weapons, but in order for you to be a
(11:58):
good quarterback to have weapons.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I think yeah, and you can't. You can't bolt the
guy for having great talent around him, like I guess
that's kind of the thing that people knocked like Brady,
it was the system. It was the system quarterback stuff.
You can't knock you guy because he's got a good system,
(12:22):
because he has good pieces around him. And I think
you're right. I do mention Joe Burrow in that elite
quarterback range, but you're right. Since the Super Bowl, you
can't really speak of too much that he's done. So
maybe we do need to start having more of a
discussion about whether Joe Burrow is in that tier with
(12:43):
Alan and Mahomes or if he's in the Jared Goff
type here in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
It's a really fascinating conversation. Do you think the NFL
is in a good place right now? Of course, with
money and ratings they are. Everybody loves watching in the NFL,
fantasy football, betting and all that other stuff, But in general,
knowing you don't have that quote end quote super team,
Kansas City is really good, but I don't know if
they're that super team. Do you think it's in a
(13:12):
good place when there's so many teams that could be
vying for a possible championship?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I do think so. I think the NFL is in
a good spot because, yes, you have your giant in
the AFC with the Chiefs, who just always seem to
find a way to make their way to the Super
Bowl every year, but you've got so many young talented
teams chasing them. In the AfD with the Ravens and
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the Bills and the Texans. That makes for good football
in January when you have all those young quarterbacks facing
off and trying to take down the goliath of the
chief And then in the NFC, you may not have
the superstar young quarterbacks as much, but you've got so
many solid talented rosters. I mean, the two most talented
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rosters in the NFL might be the forty nine ers
and Lions. Forty nine ers obviously have been injured most
of the year. And then you've got other teams like
the Eagles, and you know, the Cowboys haven't been the
business who thought they would be the Commander's coming up.
So it is interesting when you've got kind of two
(14:23):
different conferences with different types of skill sets in both
of them, but both should lead to some competitive playoff
football coming up in January.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, Cowboys so overrated. Last thing, I'm going to throw
you a curve ball you ready, Yeah, how can Nashville
spend as much money on Steven stamcost and Jonathan Marshashall
will be one in five.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
We're trying to figure the safe thing out over here
in Natville. It has been a rough start to the
professional sports season so far. We're hoping Vanderbilt can take
exits and keep sports for another week.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
The good news is I suppose right. I mean, Vanderbilt
has already one big upset win this year, and your
baseball team, traditionally year and in year out, very very good.
So it's good stuff. I really appreciate your time, Jake.
I appreciate it very much, really good insight. I love
the discussion. Keep up the great work and hope we
can talk again. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
My friend, appreciate it, Mattie too,
We care about what's going on Sunday at Ford Field.
It'll be the Lions and the Titans. Detroit on a
major role. Jake Lyman covers the Titans. You can follow
him on x at Liman Jake and he joins us
here on Exus and Bros.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Jake. Thanks for the time, man. How you doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Doing good?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Thanks for having me, Matt.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Anytime your defense is so good, or the Titans defense,
they should say is so good. They are number two
in the league and number three against the pass. Obviously,
the offense has struggled. What do you think has been
the Achilles Heel overall for the Titans this season in
a disappointing season.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I guess it depends on the game. There's been games
when Will Webbs has kind of been the Achilles Heel,
when he's given the ball away in ways that we
didn't think were possible before. Sometimes it's spend the offensive line,
and then last week against the Bills, Titans jump out
to attend to lead and then the defense that's been
(01:02):
so great gives up thirty four unanswered to Josh Allen.
So it's kind of been a different problem every week.
But I guess, if you want to point to one thing,
the offensive line has had its fair share of struggles,
and then whoever's been in their quarterback really hasn't been
able to make much happen or they've been making bad
things happen for the Titans.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Jacob, I want your perspective on quarterbacks and what Nashville
and the state of Tennessee feel about you, Will Levis.
How long do you give a guy and are they
close to giving up on a young, talented guy who's
got a really good arm but just doesn't seem to
make the right decisions.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, it's kind of a weird dynamic with Will Levis
because heading into the season, there was such a contrast
between how national people felt about Will Levis and how
people in Nashville felt about Nashville kind of felt like
we had the guy heading into this season, and then
(02:01):
after that Chicago game where he makes the flailing pick
sixth that kind of gives the game away. I think
that looked a lot of people to thinking, oh, maybe
this isn't who we thought he was, and he really
hasn't done much to turn people back in the right
direction since then. I still am of the belief that
you got to give a young quarterback about twenty starts
(02:22):
in the league to really know what you have. And
he's still sitting around fourteen to fifteen right now. He
won't play on Sunday against the Lions. So I think
he's going to get as many chances this season as
he can. We kind of know what Mason Rudolph is
at this point where he's not going to show you
(02:44):
something that makes you think he's a long term plan
for this Titan team. So I think Leavis will get
as many chances as he can this year. But it's
looking more and more like the Titans will be looking
for a quarterback in the draft or in free agency
next season.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well that's been the what's been the age old argument too.
You've got to have some talent around him, right, So
the Giants tried to do that for example for Daniel Jones,
and it hasn't necessarily worked out this year. Washington has
it in Jaden Daniels and the talent he has around.
Caleb Williams has it in Chicago with a trio of
really good receivers. Does Tennessee have enough talent around will
(03:20):
Levis for you to actually give him the benefit of
the doubt or at least a decent look at whether
or not he can be the future quarterback. And you
had mentioned the offensive line. When I say offensive talent,
I'm not talking just about skill positions. I'm talking about
the big boys up front.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Two right and Brian Callahan part On have both said
heading into the season that their main goal was trying
to figure out what they have and Will levin. So
they tried to surround him with as much talent as
they could, bringing in veteran receivers by Calvin Redleady, Pylot Boyd,
and those guys really haven't seemed to work out. And
(03:58):
they drafted JC Latham's seventh over all at left tackle,
brought in Lloyd Kushienberry at center. So they tried this
around him with talent. Some of those guys have worked out,
some of them haven't. But Will Levis clearly hasn't elevated
the talent around him. And I think that's been the
biggest thing, is that you clearly have more pieces around
you this year than last year and taking a step back,
(04:20):
which isn't a good sign for the young quarterback.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's a good point. Jake Lyman joins us here covers
the Titans. You can follow him on Twitter at Lyman Jake.
So you mentioned the talent. DeAndre Hopkins was seen as
one of those guys too. Now most people would concede
he's passed his prime, but he's still a decent receiver.
They trade him away to Kansas City. What was your
feeling on that for a mid round pick.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I felt like that one kind of felt inevitable. Once
you sell the one to five that you're probably going
to try and sell off some of your expiring contracts
for whatever you can get. The Titans already had traded
away their third round pick the Lagarious need this past offseason,
so I think rand Carthon wanted to recoup some of
(05:06):
that draft capital and DeAndre Hopkins being an older guy
who you want to see him be able to chase
a ring towards the end of his year. And I
think Rand Carthon kind of did right by DeAndre Hopkins
sending him to the Chiefs. I'm not sure how the
rest of the AFC or the NFL feels about that,
but I think he wanted to send him to a
(05:28):
contender and they got back what they could for.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
What other moves do you anticipate this team possibly.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Making Well, they traded away Ernest Jones as well back
on Wednesday, who they least six games, so it's not
like he was here all that long. I would say,
maybe you see a move with Kandre Diggs the Obviously
you guys are familiar with him, and I think maybe
(05:57):
he should be a guy that gets moved being on
just a one year be the one to keep an
eye on. And I know there have been some Lions
fans who have mentioned him as a possible movie Detroit
could make. Is Harold Landry right right? He's been great
for the past a year and a half since he
got back from his ACL injury. I think that could
be a possible fit with Aiden Hutchinson after the season,
(06:20):
then maybe if you can get a Day two pickback
for Harold Landry, that might be a move that makes sense.
But that's a question for Ran Carthon and this Titan
death of do you see Harold Landry in your long
term plans because he is under contract next season.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, that was my next question.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I'm glad you brought that up because when I first
think of this, I think, well, he doesn't replace Aiden Hutchinson.
He's not necessarily a defensive vander or a pass rusher,
and then you'd see your remember, well, wait a minute.
Two years ago he had twelve sacks. Last year at
ten and a half sacks, this year he's got four.
Who do you compare him to?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Who is he like?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
If you're a Lions fan in trying to monitor that
a little bit, he is not Aiden Hutchinson or Max
Crosby or Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Who is he like? And what does he add?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Do you think if Detroy were to kick the tires
on that deal?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, you're right, Harold l Andry. He is your traditional
defensive end. He's more of a stand up outside linebacker.
So obviously not in the same you're a talent as
like a von Miller, but kind of that style of
player where he's he's not going to be a hand
in the dirt, but he's going to be your three
to four rush out side linebackers, great speed rusher around
(07:36):
the edge, and they'll drop him in the coverage too
when they can. They'll drop him out and see if
they can bait the quarterback into some some mistakes. So
he is he is a pass rusher, but agreed with
you there that he is not the same style as
Aiden Hudson, even though he may be able to add
some stack production into that line's defense.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
How do you view the Lions?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I mean the Lions. That's a team that I think
Titans fans over the last couple of weeks have been
trying to say, maybe that's how you emulate it is.
You don't have to have the elite quarterback. But if
you have a Jared gaff who can be a distributor
and the point guard type guy, and surround him with
(08:22):
a good offensive line and good young talent like Amin Ross,
Named Brown and Jamier Gibbs and Sam Laporta, you can
put yourself in a Super Bowl conversation. So the Lions
from the outside, that's a team that if I had
to pick a team in the NFC right now to
go to the Super Bowl, I think I would have
a hard time not picking Detroit. So I don't think
(08:45):
there are many Titans fans. I said on our radio
show last night, I don't think this game is going
to go very well for Tennessee. And maybe if you've
got some plans in the afternoon, you might be able
to get a head start on them. Because this game
could be over by.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, I guarantee you. As soon as you said that,
my producer Trent Bally started screaming, let's go just a
football discussion between two guys who love the game.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You said Jared Goff.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
More of a point guard distributor, and I don't think
he meant it as a negative. But no, let me
just take it from just those words. Why wouldn't you
think he is I don't think he's a great quarterback,
but I think he's having a great season. Why is
he not in the discussion of a guy who is
top ten quarterback in the NFL? Because I think he is,
(09:34):
and that doesn't make him great, Jake, But when you
say emulate a team like Detroit, well you don't have
to have a great quarterback. There aren't that many great
quarterbacks anyway, right, So why wouldn't Jared Goff be in
the discussion of having as a very good quarterback and
a guy who's having a great season.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's a very good point. And honestly, I may consider
Jared Goff's top ten quarterback right now in the league too,
even though I don't view him in the same way
as I view a Patrick Mahomes or a Josh Allen
or a Joe Burrow, where those guys it feels like
whatever you put around them, they can make it work.
(10:14):
Like Patrick Mahomes until they traded pretty odd Hopkins. Outside
of Travis Kelsey, he doesn't have much to throw to,
but they're six and oh somehow.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I agree Rush's Rushie Rice is pretty damn good. But
you're right, I'm with you on that he makes more
with less. But he's not having a great year.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Jay. He's got six touchdowns, six picks.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That's right. He leads the NFL in interceptions. But I
kind of view it, and I'm sure that you guys
felt the same way. Or about Ryan Tannehill when he
was with the Tighters in twenty three teams through twenty
twenty one. But he found a way to win with
guys like Derrick Henry and AJ Brown around him and
got them to the number one seed in the AFC
(10:56):
in twenty twenty one. So the fans had that feeling
about Ryan Hannahill is why isn't he considered in the
elite level of quarterbacks. I think Jared Gof's a better
quarterback than Bryan Tannehill, But I think it's in the
same way that he isn't a game changer, even though
he's maybe having one of the best seasons across the NFL.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, I think that's a good way to describe it.
I think he is a game changer. I think he
is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL right now.
I like Joe Burrow a lot. I think he's a
top five quarterback, so I'm not going to argue, but
I do. I am a little surprised at the universal
love for Joe Burrow when his team is three and four.
He is like two to eight in the first two
(11:37):
weeks of his career or even worse than that, and
he's gone to one Super Bowl and lost. Jared Gof's
going to Super Bowl and lost, And he's got the
best team in the NFC right now, And you can
make the argument they're the best team in the NFL.
I'm not saying you, but I think in general, I'm
not sure Jared gov gets near. You know, everybody talks
about weapons, but in order for you to be a
(11:58):
good quarterback to have weapons.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I think yeah, and you can't. You can't bolt the
guy for having great talent around him, like I guess
that's kind of the thing that people knocked like Brady,
it was the system. It was the system quarterback stuff.
You can't knock you guy because he's got a good system,
(12:22):
because he has good pieces around him. And I think
you're right. I do mention Joe Burrow in that elite
quarterback range, but you're right. Since the Super Bowl, you
can't really speak of too much that he's done. So
maybe we do need to start having more of a
discussion about whether Joe Burrow is in that tier with
(12:43):
Alan and Mahomes or if he's in the Jared Goff
type here in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
It's a really fascinating conversation. Do you think the NFL
is in a good place right now? Of course, with
money and ratings they are. Everybody loves watching in the NFL,
fantasy football, betting and all that other stuff, But in general,
knowing you don't have that quote end quote super team,
Kansas City is really good, but I don't know if
they're that super team. Do you think it's in a
(13:12):
good place when there's so many teams that could be
vying for a possible championship?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I do think so. I think the NFL is in
a good spot because, yes, you have your giant in
the AFC with the Chiefs, who just always seem to
find a way to make their way to the Super
Bowl every year, but you've got so many young talented
teams chasing them. In the AfD with the Ravens and
(13:39):
the Bills and the Texans. That makes for good football
in January when you have all those young quarterbacks facing
off and trying to take down the goliath of the
chief And then in the NFC, you may not have
the superstar young quarterbacks as much, but you've got so
many solid talented rosters. I mean, the two most talented
(14:03):
rosters in the NFL might be the forty nine ers
and Lions. Forty nine ers obviously have been injured most
of the year. And then you've got other teams like
the Eagles, and you know, the Cowboys haven't been the
business who thought they would be the Commander's coming up.
So it is interesting when you've got kind of two
(14:23):
different conferences with different types of skill sets in both
of them, but both should lead to some competitive playoff
football coming up in January.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, Cowboys so overrated. Last thing, I'm going to throw
you a curve ball you ready, Yeah, how can Nashville
spend as much money on Steven stamcost and Jonathan Marshashall
will be one in five.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
We're trying to figure the safe thing out over here
in Natville. It has been a rough start to the
professional sports season so far. We're hoping Vanderbilt can take
exits and keep sports for another week.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
The good news is I suppose right. I mean, Vanderbilt
has already one big upset win this year, and your
baseball team, traditionally year and in year out, very very good.
So it's good stuff. I really appreciate your time, Jake.
I appreciate it very much, really good insight. I love
the discussion. Keep up the great work and hope we
can talk again. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
My friend, appreciate it, Mattie too,
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