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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seemingly every year Detroit Redman's broadcast getting number one voted
by fans. Larry Murphy is a big reason for that,
because he knows what the hell he's talking about. He's
really good at what he does. He explains it like
you can understand it, and of course you would think
Hall of famers would do that. He is a Hall
of Fame defenseman. He's one of the greatest defensemen of
all time. And he joins us on the Lindsay Hunter
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Foundation guest Line. It's always a good to visit with Murph.
He's a good man, he's a good father, he's a
good husband, and he's a really good broadcaster. Murph. I
hope you're well on this Thursday. Thanks for the time.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, you're more than welcome, Matt. They're more than happy
to do it. And thanks for that introduction. Very boy,
very impressive.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Well, I mean you deserve it. You played with Sargai
Federoff for five years in Detroit. What did you appreciate
most about his skill set?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's a tough one to nail down. I guess he
was exciting to watch. That was probably what he enjoyed
the most about it. I mean, I'm not. You know,
of course his accomplishments and what he did out in
the ice is is was tremendous. But I just for me,
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it was just the excitement of watching the way that
he played, the way he skated. It just it just
seemed effortless. He was the fastest guy out there, and
it just it just came so natural and so exciting.
So yeah, it was it was a great opportunity to
play on the ice with him. And plus you'd all
if I always enjoy watching him.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
From the bench and then you but you also had
to play against him. What was the hardest thing in
trying to I don't want to say defend him, because
I mean, are you really going one on one very
often with hockey players in general, but I mean what
did you have to be most alert of while he
was on the ice?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I would say it was that extra gear. He thought
that he was at the top flight, but he would
have another one. And if if you were napping at all,
if he didn't respect that from him, you had to
get You had to basically had to back up. You
had to give him a lot of respect out there.
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If you did didn't do it, if you were just
weren't prepared for him, you weren't aware that he was
on the ice. He'd make you look bad real quick.
And he did that, of course to the players throughout
throughout his career. He had that ability to take the bucket.
He could go in to end. He was one of
those few players that had that that ability to go
through the whole team, and of course he did it
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on numerous occasions.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I got a sense that he was a little misunderstood.
Where am I right or where am I wrong? There?
He's just.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't misunderstood. That's an interesting observation, Matt, I thought,
I don't know, that's really that's truly a tough question.
I think everybody truly appreciated how great he was. He
was very popular here in Detroit, and rightly so. He
was an exciting guy. He was somebody that would get
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you out of your seat, so to speak, with the
plays that he made, and when he knew when he
got older the tuck something special was going to happen.
I don't know, I mean it was that's a I
don't know if I could even answer that. I mean,
I knew Serge I really enjoyed playing. I actually had
the opportunity Matt to play. When I first got to Detroit,
Scotti Bowman paired me with with Sergey on defense, right,
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I mean actually had an I mean he had that
skill set where he could play any position. So I
had that, you know, I had that opportunity to do
that with SERGEI But I just I don't know. I
just I think people Peo would love to watch him play,
and it was a great teammate and really I never
had any sort of issue with him.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, I was going to ask you that, and Larry
Murphy joined in his twenty one years in the NHL
as a Hall of Famer here on XS and Bros.
When you played defense with what was the initial reaction?
What was your initial thought when Scottie Bowman had that
lineup out there and you know, put Sergate Feder off
on defense, you played with him and then knowing how
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hard that position is. I mean, this is not an
easy This is not a position player in baseball coming
in to throw the ninth inning and a thirteen to
nothing blowout. This is something that is it usually takes
laborious hours to try and study and learn how to
play and be effective as a defenseman. What were your
thoughts when you recognize that, and what was your impression
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when you actually were on the ice with him on defense?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, he's an excellent skater, so that makes the job
a lot easier no matter where you're playing. Yeah, defense
is definitely a different set of skills and a different approach.
And I was excited. I thought this is good, this
is this is going to be exciting. And he never
played defense before, but he obviously is a smart guy
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and he was a strong defensive forward as he was
off a strong offensive contributor. So I thought it was great.
I thought, this is this is going to be exciting,
and he did well. I mean it was. I just figured,
you know, just get the puck to him as soon
as he can, and you know he has the ability,
as we all noticed, skate to puck up the ice
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and he'd get it out of trouble.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
He did a good job. He played a side properly.
It wasn't a case of of being out there with
somebody that didn't realize that, you know, they need they
need to play their position. He did, Okay, I mean
it was it was definitely something you could tell it
was a forward playing defense. But even saying that, it
wasn't a case of he didn't give up scoring opportunities again,
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so he held his position. Well, So it was it
was a great experience. We had injuries, that's why Scotty
had to put him back there. I mean, which we
were short of defencemen, Like who do you put back there? Well,
I'd say, yeah, you put a guy that knows how
to play in his own zone that Sergi did, and
a guy that can skate like so it made sense.
But yeah, it was back. I think I played two
or three games with him before he moved back up front.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
What kind of advice did you give him if he
asked for any advice at all?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, you know, I actually it was the attitude was, hey,
here we go, let's see what happens. It wasn't the
case I didn't know. It wasn't the case of me saying, hey, sir, Gig,
you know you need to be here, you need to
be there. I mean, he understood the game, and he
understood you know, play aside covers, cover your man in
the zone, identify you've got if there's a switch necessary,
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you know, make the switch. He knew all that. So
it was like let's go out and do it. It
was never he was confident he could do it, and
rightly so, and I wasn't worried about what we're going
to get from him. Back there.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Marph educates us a little bit. Yesterday we had a
conversation about which coaches are most involved. You're a sports fan,
not just a hockey fan, but a sports fan, so
you understand that managers are involved in, you know, pitching
changes in lineups, and understand that football coaches are are
listening in on replay if they're not making every play.
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How much is a head coach in hockey involved in
shifts and regular game planning on a night to night basis?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, I uh, I can't speak to which which which
sports coach has the toughest job, but when you when
you look at hockey, it's definitely a being a head
coach is somebody that you're constantly making decisions. You have
to you have to make the decision who's coming, who's
basically going up next, and you have to be you
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always have to be aware of who the opposition has
on the ice. So it's a it's a constant you're
constantly called on to make decisions. Where I look at
other sports where I mean, I'm naive I don't know
the sport as well, but I say, look at basketball,
and of course the play runs for for a few minutes,
and then the coach might decide to make, you know,
pull out a starter and put in a sub substitute.
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In hockey, it's it's it's shifts, but now they're getting
shorter all the time because of the temple. I mean
every thirty forty seconds he's got. The head coach has
got to make a decision. Who am I putting out there?
And he's got a he's got a canvas twenty guys
or the eighteen skaters constantly making decisions on well is
he holding up his end? Is is somebody that got to
pull out? Do I need to switch lines? And so yeah,
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I would say coach, uh, but I'm I'm not saying
it's the toughest the head coaching job, but it's at
the requirement where you're watching every second of the game
and you're making constantly, constantly preparing and dealing with a decision.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Hockey Hall of Famer Larry Murphy, joining us on the
Lindsay Hunter Foundation guest line, talked a little bit about
Sarah gate Federov. Now, the game of hockey in general,
it's it's so fast, it's so hard to truly appreciate
unless you played it. What do you think the biggest
misnomer and most misunderstood theory of hockey is by people
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who either didn't play it or don't watch it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Uh, that's a that's a difficult one. I think what
happens for somebody a casual fan, Uh, it's not very
It's not straightforward as as as uh as you'd say
the other major three where you can basically it plays
at a pace where you can see what's going on
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and you can kind of understand with hockey is with
the rules with off side, it's uh, it's a constant
flow game and it looks like you you you see
players jumping on uh for a casual fan or somebody's
new to the game, probably the biggest the one comment
I get from is, well, do you know when when
you're jumping over and you're jumping off the boards and
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getting off the ice, and it just seems like there's
it's like a constant situation, like with somebody yelling at
you got to come or you know, it's I think
that's the the the flow of the understanding the flow
of the game and how it takes so many players
to to to to to cute that slow and how
they and you have to be players have to be
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aware on the bench of course when they're up, who
are taking always you know, being ready to jump when
you jump, when you come off. So I think for
for so many new to the game, it's that's that's
the area there where it's really hard to get an
understanding of just how that is executed well.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
A friend of yours, Steer McCarty, recently said that Sarah
Federoff is a top ten player all time something you
know that's very subjective, but you've played with and against
some of the greatest players to ever lace up skates
in the National Hockey League. You are one of the
greatest defensemen to ever lace up skates in the National
Hockey League. Is SARAHG. Federoff among the greatest you've ever
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played with and or against? Or can you think of
so many ahead that you're like, sorry, he doesn't quite
crack it, even though he's he's a Hall of Fame player.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well he is. I think he can say that he's
an all time great. Uh that is uh, I mean
that is as a deafen, a high impact player. He's
you know, herd Trophy winner, you know, the best player
in that season. So I mean putting on putting him?
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Where is he fit on the list? I don't know,
I mean because then you know, you start, first of all, yeah,
I think a knee jerk Reactioncy, Yeah, he's top ten.
But then as you point out Matt, you sit down
and you go, wow, I mean you got let's go.
So you got you know, Mary Lemue, you got Gordy,
how you got? You know, the list starts growing pretty
quick on you. And then where do Sergey fit?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I don't know. I mean I'm not you know, I'm
not going to take the time or the effort to
decide what his number is. But yeah, definitely comes well
deserved as Thursday being retired. The impact he had for
this franchise, a lot, a lot of success was was
due to him. So I mean it's a it's a
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something that's uh that is due I guess for Surgey.
And and he'll be in the rafts with just I mean,
just look at the guys. He's going to be in
the rafters with I mean, that's that's a tremendous list
right there. So I mean, well deserved. So but I
mean I don't know where what number do you label
him is right?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But he's but he's but he's in the conversation. As
I mentioned with with with you as among the greatest
defenseman of all time, you have to recognize all of
you have a certain DNA, there's a certain common denominator
that makes an all time great. What is it?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Well, it's uh, I'd say it's it's commitment. It's I
would say, like it's it's commitment and ability. It's that
combination you need both. Just the ability is not enough
on its own, and same with commitment, so you need
a combination of of both. And that's of course that's
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all the greats. And Sergei was no different. Sergei was
always in tremendous shape, worked very hard, and it wasn't
the case of him just showing up at the rink
and then throwing the skates on and going out there.
I mean, there's a lot more to it than that.
For Sergei federof So, I think that's just that's the
common denominator. Events all the greats is just the commitment
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and ability.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You need both.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You can't you can't be a great without both those elements.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
When you were growing up in Scarborough, Ontario, did you
play hockey year round and or what are these other
sports that you played and what would you recommend to
young hockey players young athletes, not just hockey players, young
athletes today as they pursue a dream that you had
and fulfilled.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
That's that's it's changed, that's for sure, Matt. I mean,
when I grew up, hockey was a winter sport starting
the fall and in the spring and all summer long.
I mean, I played my had to. I think he
made a great decision. I was, I was very little.
I was playing baseball, and he felt that lacrosse would
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be a sport box lacross in Canada, which is huge
where he played, where he played, and basically inside of
hockey arena with with the ice out of it and
you're running up constantly, running up and down the floor.
You thought that was a great sport in terms of
conditioning because we didn't have like now. I mean, it's
it's a year round sport for these kids. Now you
play hockey, it's like he's committed a year round, so
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that you know, conditioning is it was is more now
is more defined and there's more expertise in that area.
Like Dad, I don't know, maybe it was ahead of
the curb. He said, you're gonna go. You're gonna play
lacrosse because you're gonna sit all summer long, run up
and down the floor, and keep you in great shape
going into the fall. And it was exactly how it
played out. So now, I mean, now you've got to
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if you well know, Matt, I mean, it's it's just crazy,
the commitment that these kids make to a sport, and
you know, off ice training and you know that's all
something relatively new.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's great stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I really appreciate your time. I know it's valuable because
you've got that beautiful little girl at home, and you've
got two wonderful daughters as well, and your wife's always
at the gym running circles around you. It's great to visit.
It's always great to get your perspective, not just on hockey,
but on other things. Have a great weekend, my friend.
I appreciate the time today all the best.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I always enjoy it, man, it's always a great experience
to be on the radio with you, and of course yeah,
a good friend you can see you that take care