September 2, 2025 • 7 mins
Shep reacts to a recent NFL.com article regarding the Lions' floor and ceiling for how many wins they'll collect this season.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Went to NFL dot Com like I always do every
single day, and just to get an idea of you know,
what they're saying about teams leading up to the first
week of the season. Thursday is going to be electric,
you know, so fired up most people are. They have
the ceiling and the floor for each of their teams. Now,
(00:23):
we went over this not too long ago with another website.
I said the ceiling for the lines would be thirteen.
I said the floor is eleven, ten or eleven like,
depending on injuries. Right, I can't see this team losing
(00:44):
seven games, so that's the reason I've got eleven. I
wanted to see how close I was to something like this,
and they dedicated what they figured the number of wins
would be. And this is based off analytics, okay, and
what the high watermark would be in the low monor works.
(01:06):
So for example, Philadelphia, the ceiling is thirteen, the floor
is ten point four. Washington ceiling is thirteen, floor is
eight point nine, okay, nine okay again analytics Lions ceiling
twelve point eight, floor eight point nine. Look at the
(01:26):
margin between the Lions and Packers and the whole NFC
North for that matter. If the Lions can start the
season strong, which includes a trip to Lambeo in Week one,
they can track toward their ceiling. By the way, Detroit's
pass rush is getting a pretty big boost too, in
the form of a healthy Aiden Hutchinson, who led the
team with seven and a half sacks in twenty twenty
four despite being limited to just five games because of
(01:49):
a season ending leg injury. So there lies some of
the stuff that you and I were talking about in
the last segment or two segments ago. Why is it
the but you know, the Packers get this bump from
one of the best pass rushers in the league, but
the Lions don't get their necessary bump from one of
(02:09):
the best pass rushers in the league. And perhaps I'm
wrong here, because maybe part of the bump was that
the Lions were favored to the win division because Aiden
Hutchinson is back. So maybe he offsets the loss of
Ali McNeil. Maybe he offsets the question marks they have
at the other defensive end spot. Maybe he answers the
(02:30):
questions or offsets the questions regarding the loss of Ragnow
and Zeideler. I don't know, but I just thought it
would be a little bit more of an impact considering
the impact he makes. Okay, here's what they're write. That's
the fewest games played by a team sack leader since
at least nineteen eighty two. The Lions season very well
could come down to old line play. Replacing Pro Bowl
(02:53):
center Frank Ragnow will not be easy, all right, So unique,
it's nothing different than what you and I have said
about this team for a long long time. The ceiling
of thirteen, I believe is fair. The floor of I'm
going to round up from eight point nine to nine,
if you don't mind, I think is way too low. Again,
(03:16):
this goes back to what we always say, expectations. What
are your expectations for this team? Realistic expectations is probably
the way I should say. They mentioned the Packers and
the North and just how tight it really is. They've
got the Packers with projected ten wins. The ceiling is
(03:37):
twelve point seven, so it's right there with the Lions.
Lions was twelve point eight, Packers twelve point seven. The
floor for the Packers is nine point two. The floor
for the Lions was eight point nine. It's interesting right
now that they have Michael Parsons having made the Pro
Bowl each of his first four seasons has a resume
that speaks for itself. There are the there's the next
(03:59):
gen numbers that further contextualize his game changing abilities. He
generated a league high nineteen percent pass rusher rate in
twenty twenty four and has accumulated a league best three
hundred and thirty five total pressures since entering the league
in twenty twenty one. How's that grab you? Perhaps we
(04:20):
recognize the importance there. On the other hand, what they
don't acknowledge in that is that because you know, they
bring up some negatives about Detroit, and rightfully so, you
and I had some negatives about it. How do you
replace Frank Ragnow, that's that's a tough thing to do.
What about the Packers and the fact of how susceptible
(04:42):
Micah Parsons has been to the run? How come that's
not mentioned in there? Not whining that they're not treating
everybody fairly, I'm just asking the question not loud, because
you would think that should be part of the equation
in case you were wondering the vikings they have as
a ceiling of twelve, a floor of seven, a lot
(05:04):
of that because of JJ McCarthy and his first season.
How are they going to look at that? And despite
what cbssports dot COM's analyst I use that word, I
have great hesitancy with using that word and brought that
up earlier. They have them as a ceiling of eleven
(05:26):
and a floor of six point nine. Why because this
team likely goes as second year quarterback Caleb Williams goes.
If you believe that their wins will be seven point
eight and they had five a year ago, it's not
(05:49):
a huge increase for Ben Johnson and Caleb Caleb Williams.
It's kind of an indictment based on the numbers. Perhaps
the impact is not as great as you would have
originally thought from Ben Johnson, don't I don't want to
look too far ahead, and I don't like looking past
(06:11):
one specific week. Like let's enjoy each week. Let's enjoy
and I know what a lot of you guys thought
about Western Michigan coming to Spartan Stadium. Just enjoy it,
have fun watching your team play Michigan in New Mexico.
What am I going to tell from this? Enjoy it
and have some fun and then take it as it
(06:32):
goes right, use the aj Hinch method. One week at
a time. I don't want to get past Green Bay
too quickly because I'll be honest with the acquisition of
Micah Parsons makes it even that much more exciting for me.
To see two of the best pass rushers on the
same field, not at the same time, same field as
one another is truly awesome. But I can't wait for
(06:54):
the home opener because I want Detroit to shove it
down Ben Johnson's throat much like you do. I'm sure.
The phone number on the Meyer hotline is eight six
six eight three eight forty eight forty three. The text
line is Sports Radio twenty one thousand. Not because he
left for Chicago, just because of the way he's acted
and some of the things that he's said overall,
Went to NFL dot Com like I always do every
single day, and just to get an idea of you know,
what they're saying about teams leading up to the first
week of the season. Thursday is going to be electric,
you know, so fired up most people are. They have
the ceiling and the floor for each of their teams. Now,
(00:23):
we went over this not too long ago with another website.
I said the ceiling for the lines would be thirteen.
I said the floor is eleven, ten or eleven like,
depending on injuries. Right, I can't see this team losing
(00:44):
seven games, so that's the reason I've got eleven. I
wanted to see how close I was to something like this,
and they dedicated what they figured the number of wins
would be. And this is based off analytics, okay, and
what the high watermark would be in the low monor works.
(01:06):
So for example, Philadelphia, the ceiling is thirteen, the floor
is ten point four. Washington ceiling is thirteen, floor is
eight point nine, okay, nine okay again analytics Lions ceiling
twelve point eight, floor eight point nine. Look at the
(01:26):
margin between the Lions and Packers and the whole NFC
North for that matter. If the Lions can start the
season strong, which includes a trip to Lambeo in Week one,
they can track toward their ceiling. By the way, Detroit's
pass rush is getting a pretty big boost too, in
the form of a healthy Aiden Hutchinson, who led the
team with seven and a half sacks in twenty twenty
four despite being limited to just five games because of
(01:49):
a season ending leg injury. So there lies some of
the stuff that you and I were talking about in
the last segment or two segments ago. Why is it
the but you know, the Packers get this bump from
one of the best pass rushers in the league, but
the Lions don't get their necessary bump from one of
(02:09):
the best pass rushers in the league. And perhaps I'm
wrong here, because maybe part of the bump was that
the Lions were favored to the win division because Aiden
Hutchinson is back. So maybe he offsets the loss of
Ali McNeil. Maybe he offsets the question marks they have
at the other defensive end spot. Maybe he answers the
(02:30):
questions or offsets the questions regarding the loss of Ragnow
and Zeideler. I don't know, but I just thought it
would be a little bit more of an impact considering
the impact he makes. Okay, here's what they're write. That's
the fewest games played by a team sack leader since
at least nineteen eighty two. The Lions season very well
could come down to old line play. Replacing Pro Bowl
(02:53):
center Frank Ragnow will not be easy, all right, So unique,
it's nothing different than what you and I have said
about this team for a long long time. The ceiling
of thirteen, I believe is fair. The floor of I'm
going to round up from eight point nine to nine,
if you don't mind, I think is way too low. Again,
(03:16):
this goes back to what we always say, expectations. What
are your expectations for this team? Realistic expectations is probably
the way I should say. They mentioned the Packers and
the North and just how tight it really is. They've
got the Packers with projected ten wins. The ceiling is
(03:37):
twelve point seven, so it's right there with the Lions.
Lions was twelve point eight, Packers twelve point seven. The
floor for the Packers is nine point two. The floor
for the Lions was eight point nine. It's interesting right
now that they have Michael Parsons having made the Pro
Bowl each of his first four seasons has a resume
that speaks for itself. There are the there's the next
(03:59):
gen numbers that further contextualize his game changing abilities. He
generated a league high nineteen percent pass rusher rate in
twenty twenty four and has accumulated a league best three
hundred and thirty five total pressures since entering the league
in twenty twenty one. How's that grab you? Perhaps we
(04:20):
recognize the importance there. On the other hand, what they
don't acknowledge in that is that because you know, they
bring up some negatives about Detroit, and rightfully so, you
and I had some negatives about it. How do you
replace Frank Ragnow, that's that's a tough thing to do.
What about the Packers and the fact of how susceptible
(04:42):
Micah Parsons has been to the run? How come that's
not mentioned in there? Not whining that they're not treating
everybody fairly, I'm just asking the question not loud, because
you would think that should be part of the equation
in case you were wondering the vikings they have as
a ceiling of twelve, a floor of seven, a lot
(05:04):
of that because of JJ McCarthy and his first season.
How are they going to look at that? And despite
what cbssports dot COM's analyst I use that word, I
have great hesitancy with using that word and brought that
up earlier. They have them as a ceiling of eleven
(05:26):
and a floor of six point nine. Why because this
team likely goes as second year quarterback Caleb Williams goes.
If you believe that their wins will be seven point
eight and they had five a year ago, it's not
(05:49):
a huge increase for Ben Johnson and Caleb Caleb Williams.
It's kind of an indictment based on the numbers. Perhaps
the impact is not as great as you would have
originally thought from Ben Johnson, don't I don't want to
look too far ahead, and I don't like looking past
(06:11):
one specific week. Like let's enjoy each week. Let's enjoy
and I know what a lot of you guys thought
about Western Michigan coming to Spartan Stadium. Just enjoy it,
have fun watching your team play Michigan in New Mexico.
What am I going to tell from this? Enjoy it
and have some fun and then take it as it
(06:32):
goes right, use the aj Hinch method. One week at
a time. I don't want to get past Green Bay
too quickly because I'll be honest with the acquisition of
Micah Parsons makes it even that much more exciting for me.
To see two of the best pass rushers on the
same field, not at the same time, same field as
one another is truly awesome. But I can't wait for
(06:54):
the home opener because I want Detroit to shove it
down Ben Johnson's throat much like you do. I'm sure.
The phone number on the Meyer hotline is eight six
six eight three eight forty eight forty three. The text
line is Sports Radio twenty one thousand. Not because he
left for Chicago, just because of the way he's acted
and some of the things that he's said overall,
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