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August 29, 2025 • 16 mins
Lomas Brown joins the show to discuss former teammate Robert Porcher joining him in the Pride of the Lions this season, and also give some overall thoughts on the Micah Parsons trade within the division and the Lions' upcoming campaign.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Honor who said this yesterday had our golf outing. It's
really we're really fortunate. And I said this to my
wife the other night, and I said, we're really fortunate
to be paired with two wonderful individuals who represent their organizations,
the state, their family, and our network the way they do,
Lomas Brown and Lindsay Hunter. Lomas drove three and a

(00:22):
half hours to the event, was there handshaking with so
many different people, taking pictures with a beautiful smile that
he has, and then drove back. That's dedication. That's an
unbelievable teammate. He should be in the Hall of fame.
He's a Hall of famer in our eyes, and he
joins us here on Exis and Bros. Hell of a
job in the broadcast boothlet Dan Miller, Lomas, thanks for

(00:44):
being here.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
How are you, buddy, oh Man, Matt? Anything for you?
I'm doing great, My good math.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Your good friend. And I like to consider him a
bit of a friend, at least when I covered him
Robert Porchet. I think he's a phenomenal player and he
will be in the Pride of the Lions and rightfully,
so what's that mean to you?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Oh my goodness, man. That means they're doing the right
things because they're putting the right people in there. And
like you say, Matt, I couldn't think of a better
person then Robert Perche to go in there. You know,
Roberts meant a lot to this organization. He meant and

(01:24):
still means a lot to the city, this community. He
gives so much of his time, you know, in community
and charity affairs. Man, he's just as big, like I say,
outside of the field as he was on the field.
So I couldn't think of a better person to go
in there. I'm proud to say that I'll be up

(01:45):
in the side Ford field with the great Robert Pourchet
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, and he'll say the same thing about you. And
for good reason. You guys were so accessible to us
in the media, and you were so good at what
you did. What did you respect most about him?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I think the thing about Robert is he came in
with the right attitude. And what I mean by that,
mad is he came in like a sponge. Sometime you
have guys, especially first round picks, they think they know
the NFL, they think they know how to be a
professional player. Robert didn't come in that way. He came

(02:25):
in humble. He came in, like I say, like a sponge,
wanted to learn everything and not just everything on the field.
He pulled myself, he pulled Jerry Ball to the side,
and he would ask us about getting involved in the
community around here and what he needed to do. So
that was one of the things. This is humbleness. And

(02:46):
like I say, his willingness to learn is one thing
that stuck out to me about Robert.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Lomas Brown, the great Lomans brou Junderan is here on
Exis and Bros. He is the color analyst for Lions football.
You and and Dan will have to deal with this
opening day in Green Bay at Lambeau Field. There's a
new Packer and his name is Michael Parsons. He's one
of the best edge rushers in football. He is a
phenomenal player. We could talk all day about how dumb

(03:15):
it was for Dallas to sign Dak Prescott to sixty
million dollars a year and put themselves in financial purgatory.
But what was your reaction when Dallas traded Michael Parsons
to Green Bay for two first rounders and Kenny Clark.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, just shocked. I mean, basically, Matt, they gave him
away for nothing, I mean too late first round picks.
And I know Kenny Clark is a phenomenal player, but
you know the guy, the type of guy that Michael
Parsons was, man, you try to get everything that you
can for him. Man. To me, Dallas seemed like they

(03:51):
let Green Bay get him for pretty much cheap. Again,
I'm not as worried why, because I got a guy
nameday Soon over there that I think one on one
could handle a Michael Parsons. Now. I know they move
him around, and of course they're going to scheme versus us,
but you know, I do have a sense of confert

(04:12):
that we have two of the good tackles in this league.
So as far as edge Russian, they should be able
to handle some of the best edge rushers in this league.
But I do think that Green Bay got significantly better
on the defensive side of the ball picking up Michael Parsons.
And yeah, Matt, we got to face him twice a

(04:34):
year now because he's in our division.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, I love him. I think he's a phenomenal player.
They move him all around. He's a disruptive force, no question,
what do you respect most about him as a tackle yourself?
Because Decker's gonna have to face him, Suell's gonna have
to face him, Hell Graham, Glasgow, Tate Ratlich, Christian Mahagan.
You are going to have to deal with him at
some point. How would you handle the guy that has

(04:57):
that type of speed and that type of strength all combined.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, and the other thing a Baba, Matt, He's relentless.
He is a relentless rusher. So that you're right, he's
a guy that you're definitely gonna have to game plan for.
Like you said, he's gonna move all around that office line,
so anybody can face him. And what you have to do,
Matt is try to keep not two, but four eyeballs

(05:26):
on him at all times. You got to make sure
that you have the guy that's blocking them. Yeah, he's there,
but you do have to make sure that one of
your other guys is keep at least keeping an eye
on him. So if the one guy gets in trouble,
you can slide over, or if you have a double team,
you could double team this guy and you don't have
to do it with your body. You could just do

(05:47):
it with your hands. Just have a hand presence there.
So I expect that I expect when anytime we play him,
he at least have four eyeballs on him at all times.
I think that's that's how you try to neutralize great
players like that.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I tweeted this out earlier, and you can follow Lomas
Brown on Lomas Brown's seventy five on Twitter. I tweeted
this out suggesting the Lions could pay forty seven million
dollars a year for Parsons. Isn't logical, like you could
have put together a trade package. But here's what you
have to factor in money. The cap is two hundred
and seventy nine million. The Lions with golf Saint Brown, Sewele,

(06:26):
Joseph and McNeil make up fifty percent, and Decker make
up fifty percent. Parsons alone is at seventeen percent. If
you want to sign Hutchinson and others in the future,
how are you going to do that?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
You know what, Matt, that's a great question, and I think, well,
I know I'll say that Brad Holmes. I think Brad
has already talled about a lot of that because Briand
seems to be think and signing guys now with the
future in mind, and I think that's a great way

(07:04):
for Matt. I'm sorry for him to be is to
be thinking about the future personally myself is no way,
it's just no way out of the reset the market
like that. If I'm green Bay, think about it. TJ.
Watt is the top was the top guy at forty
one million. You went six million over. I think what

(07:28):
you had to do. I think Michael Parsons would have
took forty two million. Why green Bay went up like
this and gave him forty seven million the year, I
really don't understand that, you know, I don't think it
would have took that. And for us, I'm glad we
didn't do it because, like you say, we would think
about some of the players we have to sign. When

(07:49):
you talk about Brian Branch, Jamire Gibbs in the future,
Sam the Porter, on and on that we have to
sign Jack Campbell. Yeah, we got some guys that and
of course you said aiden, so we got some guys
that we have to look at trying to keep, and
they are young nucleus guys that we need the keep.

(08:11):
So I'm glad that we didn't consider doing the deal
like that. With Mike Michael Parson.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, think of this. Aiden Hutchinson makes roughly nine million
dollars this year. Okay, if you had him, and if
you're his agent, you're you're absolutely saying, you know that's
the new bar, right, and you're going to at least
close to it. If you're not going to go forty seven,
you're gonna go over forty one. It would be a
combined thirty six percent on one position or I mean

(08:36):
two positions, two defensive ends. But basically the same thing.
Chicago went all in with Kali Mack. It didn't bring
them a championship. So I'm not saying Detroit doesn't need
to upgrade that area. They do. I just don't think
they could have afforded him. That said. No, Marcus Davenport
has never played a full season, Lomas, what do you
do at the other side, knowing you've got one roster

(08:58):
spot open and in some cap space.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, that's the problem right there. Matt, you a great
job because you're right. Think about it, and when you
have one guy you could neutralize that one guy. Just
talked about what you could do. You could slide the
line towards Aiden Hutchison like I say, you can keep
four eyeballs on them, you could keep a full back
in there, you could put the tight end on that side.

(09:23):
It's ways to try to slow down to neutralize a great,
great pass Russia, like a Michael Parson's or an Aiden Hutchison.
And that's where, like you're saying, the other side of
the line is going to be so important because you're
going to get those one on one matchups and you
just have to be able to win those one on

(09:45):
one matchups. And we hadn't been able to do that,
even with Aiden Hutchison. We hadn't been able to win
those one on one match ups on a consistent basis.
And especially if you think about Matt the quarterbacks that
we're going to face this yip. Just think about some
of the quarterbacks we're gonna see you, and if we
don't get pressure on them, they're gonna sit back there

(10:07):
and pick us apart man or they're gonna scramble and
they're gonna stend plays and hurt us with big plays.
So you're right, it's important for Brad Holmes and them
to figure out the other side of our defensive line
opposite of Ayden.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Hutchinson, Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell have said that they
feel better about this team than any team they have
since being in Detroit. How would you concur with that?
In what area do you think they are strongest?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
So I agree with them to a certain standpoint. And
the reason why I agree with them is because these guys,
our nucleus has more experience. These guys, these are just
young guys. These guys have experience now they're veteran guys
along with being very very good guys or they're very

(10:59):
good player. So I do agree with Dan. I agree
with Brad that I think this is the best team
that we have, but we still have some holes on
this team. Matt were still the middle offense. The line,
we just don't know how that's gonna look right now.
The interior of our defensive line, we don't really know

(11:19):
how that's gonna look because the lean is out. You
got DJ Reader there, but Talik Williams is a young guy,
so you don't know how he's gonna hold up just
right now. So yeah, we do have the best team
I think that we've had, but we do still have
a couple of holes that we have to see how
we fill these holes. And how they come along throughout

(11:42):
this season.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, their play's gonna have to convince me, only because,
as you just mentioned, I think Frank Ragnow and Kevin
Zeidler are two really important pieces to that mix. And
I Frank Ragnow I know and people roll their eyes.
He was my favorite player. It's easy to get wrapped
up in defensive ends and playmaking wide receivers and running backs.
But and I don't say this because you're on the

(12:04):
phone with me and you're a friend. I love offensive lineman.
I think so that's the heartbeat of your team. I
don't think it gets nearly enough credit Penny Sewell's ability
to show his athleticism, his footwork has hand, his punch,
his ability to get to the second level is not
stressed enough. But with that said, you've watched Tate Ratlige practice,
You've watched Christian mahogany. What makes you think those two

(12:28):
guys are valuable fill ins or now in control of
those jobs? And also the fact that they've said Dan
Campbell and Brad Holmes have said they see Ratligs as
a future center. What's your take on those two guys
at two very important positions.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, so the first thing is that those Sue guys
got two guys, good guys neck soon. You mentioned to
nay Sewell one of the best in the league and
tell A Decker one of the best in the league.
So having two tackles next to your young guards, that's
gonna help them out. Communication, just different things that's gonna

(13:06):
help them out. The thing that I love from Tate
Ratless that I love to see is his tenacity. You know,
he's a dog out there. He wants some finished blocks
and that's what you need to be able to do
out there, especially as a young guy still learning your technique.
And the same thing with Christy Mahogany. I like what

(13:28):
I've seen from him in the two starts that he
had last year. He was a guy that stayed after people.
He was relentless out there as a drive blocker, and
he didn't seem to have problems getting up to that
next level, which is getting up to the line back
of level, which is so important for the office of
Guard to do. So that gives me confidence that those

(13:50):
two guys are of all the rest of the guys.
Back up guys are the guys that we could plug
in there and they should be able to hold the
ship down for us, the steady players for us in
their first year while they're still learning how they play
in the NFL. Because there's a process, Matt. It's a
process to learning how to play in the NFL. It's

(14:13):
a process to learning how to practice in the NFL.
It's just a process period. When you get in the
NFL and those two guys are still learning it.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, those guys are big bodies. Last thing before I
let you go, and all the best to you and
your family on this holiday weekend. The new coordinators. You've
had to planner new coordinators in your career. What's the
adjustment period for the offense specifically under John Morton?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
So, Matt, So, the one thing that gives me comfort
is Jared Golfers said all off season along that we
the media, the outside people, we're making too much out
of John Morton being there. The adjustment isn't gonna be
that bad. Jared has said this. So if Jared golf

(15:05):
is saying this, then I feel confident that the communications
between him and John Morton, the scheme between him and
John Morton and the rest of the guys on the
offense for the Detroit Lions. It's not gonna be a
big adjustment. It's not gonna be a big deal. Jared
is saying we're making a bigger deal out of it

(15:27):
than that. I love hearing that because that's my quarterback
and he's saying it's not a big adjustment. So I
expect our offense to click. I expect that to pick
up from where it did where it was last year,
and continue to click and lead this team and probably
continue to try to be the number one offense in

(15:49):
this league. Again. I'm going off what Jared Golf has
told me and has told us, and he's around John
Morton every day. They've been communicating all see the so
and Jered Golf, I trust.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
We trust you too. Thanks buddy, appreciate it Man, great
stuff as always. It was awesome to see you the
other day. Can't wait to listen to you on the radio.
Do another fantastic job of calling Lyons football. All the
best to you and your family this weekend. Thanks for
being with us.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Same as you, Matt. Have a great holiday weekend, Matt.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
We'll do. Thank you, buddy. That's Lomas Brown. Followhim on Twitter.
Lomas Brown seventy five is good A guy as you
will meet, just awesome insight. And he even told me
the other day is look, I focus a lot on
the offensive line. There's a reason for that. If the
offensive and sure that's his space, but if the offensive
line isn't working, neither's your quarterback, neither your wide receiver,

(16:42):
neither's Jamier Gibbs. Nobody's working.
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