June 30, 2025 • 8 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We get a chance to pick it up with a
good friend of ours. He is Mitch Lyons from Mitch
Lionswealth dot com. It is the place you want to
go to make sure your retirement is secure. Called eight
sixty six eighty five Steel. He's actually back in our
same time zone since the previous two times we spoke
with Mitch Lyons, he was on a cruise in Alaska.
(00:21):
Now you're back home. How did things go well?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
An awesome chef. It is great to be talking to
you with it not being three eighteen, so I'm excited
to be in the same time zone. But Alaska was awesome. Yeah,
first week was land based with my in laws, and
then the second week was a cruise with my wife Angela,
which was both both ends of that were just spectacular.
And if you haven't been to Alaska, I highly recommend
that you can't even describe it. Pictures don't do a justice.
(00:45):
You just have to experience it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Who plans something like that? Are you a planner or
do you let somebody else do it?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
My wife is my travel coordinator. She doesn't let me
go to the airport, she doesn't let me handle the tickets,
whether they're on my phone or a hard copy. I'm
just like one of the kids. I just hand it
to her and get out of the way and she
gets stuffed done.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You know, I'm okay with that. I think that's a
good thing. I mean, I do. I think that's important.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
When you're on a trip, you don't have to make
all the decisions, right, you don't want all this is
made for you, but you don't. Once you you don't
have to worry about that. She takes care of it,
and she does a great job of it. So why
not Two new names? Congratulations By the way, I'm glad
you had had some fun. Two new names associated with
Detroit chas Lanier Piston's first round or second round pick,
(01:32):
Carter Bear red Wings first round pick. There are other
names too, but we don't need to get into those
with the red Wings because quite honestly, we don't know
who they are. Advice to young guys. When you came
to the National Football League, who gave you some of
the best advice? What advice do you did you then
give to younger players? And what would you give to
(01:53):
these two young men?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah? I think the best thing you can do when
you come in is don't run your off too much. Listen,
you got two ears and one mouth. Listen a whole
lot more than you talk. But definitely plug in. You know,
anything that of that is willing to share, you soak
it up and apply it. You know, just a be
a huge note taker, take note of the things going
on around you and and everything you hear, write it
(02:17):
down and review on a daily basis. But you know,
I think the biggest thing is you just kind of
in awe when you first get into that. You know,
for me, that first training camp in nineteen ninety three
to Atlanta, and I'm going in there and I have
got Andrea Rizen and you know, Jesse Tuggle and then
Tim Green and all these guys that have been around
a real long time and guys that I've watched on
TV and stuff. So at first it's a little bit surreal, right,
(02:38):
It's what you've always dreamt of, and now you're right
in the midst of it, and you find out pretty
quickly that you know you belong from an athletic standpoint,
you belong here else you wouldn't be there. But so
much of the game is mental. You've really got to
study and then ask questions and just be a sponge.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Jesse Tuggle, that's a great pull. I had completely set.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
A hammer, Jesse the hammer Tuggle man, he's one of
the other time grace in Atlanta and one of the
deepest voices you'll ever hear. And he was well respected guy.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, that's awesome, good one. Terrek Schoubl was more than
good yesterday thirteen punch outs, tied to career high in
seven innings. He's now one ten straight. He's been dominant.
Do pro athletes like to watch other pro athletes dominate
the sport that is so very difficult, but yet making
(03:26):
it look somewhat easy.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You don't like it if you're in the other dugout,
but if you're watching it on Sunday night baseball, it's
a spectacle to watch, you know. And I was just
thinking to myself last night. I know we've talked about
this how baseball's changed, but can you imagine Jack Morris
now going out for the eighth with ninety three pitches
throwing a one hitter. It's just right times of change. Man.
I would like to have seen him been able to
continue because he was just just unbelievable and unhittable. It's
(03:49):
hard to believe you know that they don't roll him
out anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
But you know, that's a really good point.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
You know, I haven't brought that up yet this morning,
and maybe that's why you should be hosting this show
instead of me. I need four pitches and yet he's pulled.
How do athletes I don't want to say old school,
but I'm always old guy when we go back like this. Okay,
I was just talking about Max Schurzer and how he's
got twelve career complete games.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Bob Gibson did that in two months, in one year.
So it does sound like old guy. But when you're
watching that, are you saying the same thing?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I am? Why the hell is he being taken out?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I think I think they're just acclimated to it now, right.
It's just kind of the way things are. And you know,
you got your eighth inny guy, you got your ninth
inning guy. But you know, I just think they trust
AJ at this point. I think they trust AJ and
you know, it's just the way he does things. And
it's not just age, obviously, it's the whole league. But
you know, I think when you're winning and things are
(04:49):
going well, maybe it doesn't matter if they're on an
eight game skid and then they pull me out. In
that situation, I'm not probably real happy if I'm Trek Schoogle.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, I agree. I hope he's not happy at all.
He's only got one career complete game, I believe. Yeah,
that was earlier this year. The Rocket Classic needed a playoff.
Twenty two under was the score and it required a
five hole playoff at the Dow in Midland. That required
a playoff, and twenty under was the winning combined score.
(05:21):
Which do you prefer players going low throwing darts at
the flag on a regular basis and you know a
high score is going to win, or the tough conditions
that will humble the best in the world, like at
the US Open.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah right, we talked to cur in the US so,
but I you know, I prefer to watch and be
challenged a little bit more. Right, You've got to be
darn near perfect to and you're playing the best in
the world and you're playing the toughest conditions. I kind
of prefer to watch that. But on the other hand,
it's kind of fun to watch these guys and gals
play on you know, maybe a quote unquote more normal course,
which would still you know, more most amateurs, right, and
(05:58):
to see them shoot the you know five or six, seven,
eight nine under on any given day when you know,
US eighteen handicapped hacks are out there, you know, trying
to trying to break nineties. So I put the things
in perspective either way, and then it'd be really fun
to watch your average amateur go out there and play
you know, best page Black the day after a US Open, Right.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, I probably wouldn't want to do that. You'd have
to bring, you know, at least two dozen balls because
you're bound to lose some of them. Fourth of July
is at the end of the week. What are your
Fourth of July traditions?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well, for us, we've had a place up in Cadillac,
Michigan for a long time on Lake Mitchell for years
and now on Lake Cadillac, and our place right now
is stationed right across from the football field where they
shoot off all the fireworks. They do a great drone show,
so my grandsons are fired up for the drone show
and the fireworks the following night. So that's kind of
our thing. We get as many of our kids up
there as we can, and as they get older and
(06:54):
spread around a little bit, it gets tougher. But we
usually have a houseful and you know, it's a bonfire,
it's it's s'mores, it's the fireworks. That's having fun on
the lake and just being the family man. That's what
it's all about. And celebrate our nation where you've got
plenty of people. You turn on the TV and a
given day, there's all these reasons that our nation's terrible.
But I tell you what, there's not a place that'd
rather be on the face of the earth in the US.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's so well said. Do you do fireworks yourself? Or
do you just let the city or the people who
are hanging out there on the lake handle it.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm a big, hey, let's keep our digits where they
belong kind of guy. I don't touch the things I think.
I think it's a recipe for disaster. I'll let the
professionals handle that because I just don't need to lose
a finger or worse.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I'm with you one hundred percent on that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't need any defensive end type missing two digits.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Who is it Possio Manora? Who did that? Something like that?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Jason Pierre pole Man.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Oh, Jason.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Then he went down to the box and I know
who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, I don't need that.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, Trent just said at Jason Pierre pol thank you.
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Jason, Yeah, don't need that at all.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
All the best to you and your family on the fourth.
Thanks as always, we appreciate glad you're back home safely.
Enjoy the week and enjoy the holiday, my friend.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
We appreciate.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
God blessed everybody, and I got blessed to the USA.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Amen to that. That's Mitch Lions Mitch lionswealth dot com.
You got to check it out. Give him a call
at eight sixty six eighty five Steel. You can sign
up for his free newsletter. That newsletter's free. You can
pick up his book, Retirement of Steel, providing people with
retirement advice. A digital copy is free on his website
Mitch Lionswealth dot com. He's a featured expert in the
(08:33):
documentary Retirement Deception. That's a film protecting people from the
deceptions of retirement planning. And there's a free streaming code
on his website. Free code for the book, free code
for the documentary, free for newsletter.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Just go to his website Mitch Lionswealth dot com
We get a chance to pick it up with a
good friend of ours. He is Mitch Lyons from Mitch
Lionswealth dot com. It is the place you want to
go to make sure your retirement is secure. Called eight
sixty six eighty five Steel. He's actually back in our
same time zone since the previous two times we spoke
with Mitch Lyons, he was on a cruise in Alaska.
(00:21):
Now you're back home. How did things go well?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
An awesome chef. It is great to be talking to
you with it not being three eighteen, so I'm excited
to be in the same time zone. But Alaska was awesome. Yeah,
first week was land based with my in laws, and
then the second week was a cruise with my wife Angela,
which was both both ends of that were just spectacular.
And if you haven't been to Alaska, I highly recommend
that you can't even describe it. Pictures don't do a justice.
(00:45):
You just have to experience it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Who plans something like that? Are you a planner or
do you let somebody else do it?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
My wife is my travel coordinator. She doesn't let me
go to the airport, she doesn't let me handle the tickets,
whether they're on my phone or a hard copy. I'm
just like one of the kids. I just hand it
to her and get out of the way and she
gets stuffed done.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You know, I'm okay with that. I think that's a
good thing. I mean, I do. I think that's important.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
When you're on a trip, you don't have to make
all the decisions, right, you don't want all this is
made for you, but you don't. Once you you don't
have to worry about that. She takes care of it,
and she does a great job of it. So why
not Two new names? Congratulations By the way, I'm glad
you had had some fun. Two new names associated with
Detroit chas Lanier Piston's first round or second round pick,
(01:32):
Carter Bear red Wings first round pick. There are other
names too, but we don't need to get into those
with the red Wings because quite honestly, we don't know
who they are. Advice to young guys. When you came
to the National Football League, who gave you some of
the best advice? What advice do you did you then
give to younger players? And what would you give to
(01:53):
these two young men?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah? I think the best thing you can do when
you come in is don't run your off too much. Listen,
you got two ears and one mouth. Listen a whole
lot more than you talk. But definitely plug in. You know,
anything that of that is willing to share, you soak
it up and apply it. You know, just a be
a huge note taker, take note of the things going
on around you and and everything you hear, write it
(02:17):
down and review on a daily basis. But you know,
I think the biggest thing is you just kind of
in awe when you first get into that. You know,
for me, that first training camp in nineteen ninety three
to Atlanta, and I'm going in there and I have
got Andrea Rizen and you know, Jesse Tuggle and then
Tim Green and all these guys that have been around
a real long time and guys that I've watched on
TV and stuff. So at first it's a little bit surreal, right,
(02:38):
It's what you've always dreamt of, and now you're right
in the midst of it, and you find out pretty
quickly that you know you belong from an athletic standpoint,
you belong here else you wouldn't be there. But so
much of the game is mental. You've really got to
study and then ask questions and just be a sponge.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Jesse Tuggle, that's a great pull. I had completely set.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
A hammer, Jesse the hammer Tuggle man, he's one of
the other time grace in Atlanta and one of the
deepest voices you'll ever hear. And he was well respected guy.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, that's awesome, good one. Terrek Schoubl was more than
good yesterday thirteen punch outs, tied to career high in
seven innings. He's now one ten straight. He's been dominant.
Do pro athletes like to watch other pro athletes dominate
the sport that is so very difficult, but yet making
(03:26):
it look somewhat easy.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You don't like it if you're in the other dugout,
but if you're watching it on Sunday night baseball, it's
a spectacle to watch, you know. And I was just
thinking to myself last night. I know we've talked about
this how baseball's changed, but can you imagine Jack Morris
now going out for the eighth with ninety three pitches
throwing a one hitter. It's just right times of change. Man.
I would like to have seen him been able to
continue because he was just just unbelievable and unhittable. It's
(03:49):
hard to believe you know that they don't roll him
out anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
But you know, that's a really good point.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
You know, I haven't brought that up yet this morning,
and maybe that's why you should be hosting this show
instead of me. I need four pitches and yet he's pulled.
How do athletes I don't want to say old school,
but I'm always old guy when we go back like this. Okay,
I was just talking about Max Schurzer and how he's
got twelve career complete games.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Bob Gibson did that in two months, in one year.
So it does sound like old guy. But when you're
watching that, are you saying the same thing?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I am? Why the hell is he being taken out?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I think I think they're just acclimated to it now, right.
It's just kind of the way things are. And you know,
you got your eighth inny guy, you got your ninth
inning guy. But you know, I just think they trust
AJ at this point. I think they trust AJ and
you know, it's just the way he does things. And
it's not just age, obviously, it's the whole league. But
you know, I think when you're winning and things are
(04:49):
going well, maybe it doesn't matter if they're on an
eight game skid and then they pull me out. In
that situation, I'm not probably real happy if I'm Trek Schoogle.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, I agree. I hope he's not happy at all.
He's only got one career complete game, I believe. Yeah,
that was earlier this year. The Rocket Classic needed a playoff.
Twenty two under was the score and it required a
five hole playoff at the Dow in Midland. That required
a playoff, and twenty under was the winning combined score.
(05:21):
Which do you prefer players going low throwing darts at
the flag on a regular basis and you know a
high score is going to win, or the tough conditions
that will humble the best in the world, like at
the US Open.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah right, we talked to cur in the US so,
but I you know, I prefer to watch and be
challenged a little bit more. Right, You've got to be
darn near perfect to and you're playing the best in
the world and you're playing the toughest conditions. I kind
of prefer to watch that. But on the other hand,
it's kind of fun to watch these guys and gals
play on you know, maybe a quote unquote more normal course,
which would still you know, more most amateurs, right, and
(05:58):
to see them shoot the you know five or six, seven,
eight nine under on any given day when you know,
US eighteen handicapped hacks are out there, you know, trying
to trying to break nineties. So I put the things
in perspective either way, and then it'd be really fun
to watch your average amateur go out there and play
you know, best page Black the day after a US Open, Right.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, I probably wouldn't want to do that. You'd have
to bring, you know, at least two dozen balls because
you're bound to lose some of them. Fourth of July
is at the end of the week. What are your
Fourth of July traditions?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well, for us, we've had a place up in Cadillac,
Michigan for a long time on Lake Mitchell for years
and now on Lake Cadillac, and our place right now
is stationed right across from the football field where they
shoot off all the fireworks. They do a great drone show,
so my grandsons are fired up for the drone show
and the fireworks the following night. So that's kind of
our thing. We get as many of our kids up
there as we can, and as they get older and
(06:54):
spread around a little bit, it gets tougher. But we
usually have a houseful and you know, it's a bonfire,
it's it's s'mores, it's the fireworks. That's having fun on
the lake and just being the family man. That's what
it's all about. And celebrate our nation where you've got
plenty of people. You turn on the TV and a
given day, there's all these reasons that our nation's terrible.
But I tell you what, there's not a place that'd
rather be on the face of the earth in the US.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's so well said. Do you do fireworks yourself? Or
do you just let the city or the people who
are hanging out there on the lake handle it.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm a big, hey, let's keep our digits where they
belong kind of guy. I don't touch the things I think.
I think it's a recipe for disaster. I'll let the
professionals handle that because I just don't need to lose
a finger or worse.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I'm with you one hundred percent on that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't need any defensive end type missing two digits.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Who is it Possio Manora? Who did that? Something like that?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Jason Pierre pole Man.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Oh, Jason.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Then he went down to the box and I know
who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, I don't need that.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, Trent just said at Jason Pierre pol thank you.
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Jason, Yeah, don't need that at all.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
All the best to you and your family on the fourth.
Thanks as always, we appreciate glad you're back home safely.
Enjoy the week and enjoy the holiday, my friend.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
We appreciate.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
God blessed everybody, and I got blessed to the USA.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Amen to that. That's Mitch Lions Mitch lionswealth dot com.
You got to check it out. Give him a call
at eight sixty six eighty five Steel. You can sign
up for his free newsletter. That newsletter's free. You can
pick up his book, Retirement of Steel, providing people with
retirement advice. A digital copy is free on his website
Mitch Lionswealth dot com. He's a featured expert in the
(08:33):
documentary Retirement Deception. That's a film protecting people from the
deceptions of retirement planning. And there's a free streaming code
on his website. Free code for the book, free code
for the documentary, free for newsletter.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Just go to his website Mitch Lionswealth dot com
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