April 30, 2025 • 6 mins
Shep reacts to the Pistons' Game 5 win over the Knicks to stave off elimination and force a Game 6 in Detroit.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Dude, bid I love how it ends Detroit basketball, and
that kind of parlays into the fact that the Pistons
were winners last night. What an awesome game it was
if you missed it earlier this morning, we've been talking
about it, talked about it for an entire hour and
(00:22):
the six o'clock hour, and the fact that Detroit has
been so good and sewed so much grit, so much metal.
I think the character, and I tweeted this out last night,
the character of what the Pistons have put on display
has impressed me more than anything else. We can talk
about going into Madison Square Garden and winning their four
and one there in their last five against the Knicks,
(00:43):
and how they were down at one point and how
they were up at one point. Look, for me, I
don't think a team has to lead wire to wire
for them to show me something. It's pretty cool when
that's dominant like that, right, I mean, But if you're
a team that faces some in game adversity, I want
(01:03):
to see how you handle it, especially in the playoffs, right, yeah,
you're playing good team, especially yeah, especially when yeah, absolutely,
especially when some matchups just aren't good like the Boston
Orlando matchup. It's just it's not good. You know, the
Miami Cleveland matchup was not good. It was like a
bye for Cleveland. First of all, it's ridiculous. The Oklahoma
(01:24):
City Memphis matchup is not what was not a good matchup.
So you know, it does open open the door slightly.
Memphis won forty eight games, man, but it does open
the door slightly. To ask yourself out loud, is what
the NBA doing really working? You know with the play
in tournament and you got to get beat this team
to get this team and so on and so forth.
(01:46):
I think you and I both know have a pretty
good understanding of who the best teams in the league are. Okay,
I mean, Boston looks really good. Cleveland looked really good.
I told you Indiana was a good basketball team, and
that's a team that I think you'd like to avoid.
They're gonna get. They're gonna give Cleveland everything they can
handle it more. But I think when you're you're down
(02:07):
in a game and how you respond shows you something.
It's interesting. In Game four, Pistons couldn't hold the eleven
point lead. That's what everybody ripped on them for. I
looked at it it's a fair way to look at it.
I also looked at it like New York. Everyone's talking
about the experience, right, This is where experience comes into play.
(02:31):
The experience of New York's ability to come back in
a game like that. There's something to be said for that. Well,
guess what. Detroit got pushed like they were up double digits,
quote unquote, gave it away, got pushed to it, and
then they pushed right back. And that tells me more
(02:54):
than if they even if they lose Game six. Okay,
I'm not gonna be one of those guys who goes,
you know what, it was a great season. I'm really happy.
I think they're better than the Knicks in certain areas.
I think the Knicks have. You know, if you look
at Jalen Brunson, Kate Cunningham, if you and I were captains,
remember what you just did as a kid. I don't
know if you did it, Trent, but we did it
(03:14):
all the time. All Right, I'm a captain and you're
a captain. All right, you got first pick. You hated
picking the person last, right, but the first pick. Jalen Brunson,
Cad Cunningham. It's one of the other you're not going
to go wrong, right, Karl Anthony Towns is probably in
that mix, right, And then is it og On Andobi?
Is it Michale Bridges? Is it Tobias Harris for what
(03:37):
he's been able to do in this series? I don't know.
We can debate that New York probably has a little
bit more talent Detroit, especially if Isaiah Stewart or probably has,
you know, a little bit more what I would consider
trustworthy talent coming off the bench. I trust Dennis Shrewder,
I trust Malik Beasley. I would trust a guy like
(03:58):
Isaiah Stewart's. I think there's a little more depth there
for the Pistons, especially given how time Thibodel culches as well.
He loves to run his guys and you know, he
keeps it tight, which I'm that's right or wrong. I
just that's that's the difference. It's a really good coach.
So when you look at it like that, I look
I see that the character that Detroit has shown in
(04:20):
this and especially when a lot of people would have
felt going into the game, the one thing you can't
do is let New York get up. New York was
up after the first quarter, just a bucket, but there's
still up. And the other thing you can't do is
watch them go on these big runs late in the
fourth quarter because these games, every single game has been
decided in the fourth quarter. This is as tight as
(04:40):
series as you can get. It's the most entertaining series
in the entire playoffs. Clippers and Nuggets to a certain extent,
but last time was a blowout for Denver. Jamal Murray
had forty three, Nikolay Yocic had another triple double. Really impressive,
right this has been This has captured the national eye.
You've got news shows on networks showing this right now.
(05:04):
And somebody tweeted out this morning TNT actually thought it
was going to be the Knicks. They put Nicks win
series for one, and then they had to change the
graphic at the end. I don't know if you saw that.
So it's been a really good series. It's been great
for basketball obviously, it's been great for the Pistons, and
it's created some concern for the Knicks. Don't kid yourself,
but there's also a part of them that probably will say,
(05:24):
when this is all said and done, look, that was
a physical series. It was a draining series physically and mentally.
So if we can get by that, then yeah, we
might be able to handle Boston because it's a great rivalry.
If they lose to Boston, they'll be you know what,
They'll be saying that first round series with Detroit took
too much out of us. The Pistons pushed us to
(05:49):
the limit. I'm not talking about an Eagles song here.
I'm saying they pushed you to the limit, and they're
going to be a force to be reckoned with. I
would cost you on that because there's a lot of teams.
I'm probably saying that in Houston too. They're going to
be a force to be reckoned with. They said that
about the Lions in the nineties. It didn't work out
too well. They said it about the Tigers in the eighties.
(06:12):
It worked out a couple of times. So you've got
to be careful. But this is a team, the Pistons,
that has shown I think, immense maturity and character and
I've you know, you appreciate them. During the regular season,
you feel like you've almost fallen in love with them
all over again because of the way they that they
(06:33):
have shown their toughness. I know, I almost went there.
I almost went there. But we love the grit belief
and we think teams in this city need to show it.
And the Pistons are showing it in a one oh
six to one oh three win
Dude, bid I love how it ends Detroit basketball, and
that kind of parlays into the fact that the Pistons
were winners last night. What an awesome game it was
if you missed it earlier this morning, we've been talking
about it, talked about it for an entire hour and
(00:22):
the six o'clock hour, and the fact that Detroit has
been so good and sewed so much grit, so much metal.
I think the character, and I tweeted this out last night,
the character of what the Pistons have put on display
has impressed me more than anything else. We can talk
about going into Madison Square Garden and winning their four
and one there in their last five against the Knicks,
(00:43):
and how they were down at one point and how
they were up at one point. Look, for me, I
don't think a team has to lead wire to wire
for them to show me something. It's pretty cool when
that's dominant like that, right, I mean, But if you're
a team that faces some in game adversity, I want
(01:03):
to see how you handle it, especially in the playoffs, right, yeah,
you're playing good team, especially yeah, especially when yeah, absolutely,
especially when some matchups just aren't good like the Boston
Orlando matchup. It's just it's not good. You know, the
Miami Cleveland matchup was not good. It was like a
bye for Cleveland. First of all, it's ridiculous. The Oklahoma
(01:24):
City Memphis matchup is not what was not a good matchup.
So you know, it does open open the door slightly.
Memphis won forty eight games, man, but it does open
the door slightly. To ask yourself out loud, is what
the NBA doing really working? You know with the play
in tournament and you got to get beat this team
to get this team and so on and so forth.
(01:46):
I think you and I both know have a pretty
good understanding of who the best teams in the league are. Okay,
I mean, Boston looks really good. Cleveland looked really good.
I told you Indiana was a good basketball team, and
that's a team that I think you'd like to avoid.
They're gonna get. They're gonna give Cleveland everything they can
handle it more. But I think when you're you're down
(02:07):
in a game and how you respond shows you something.
It's interesting. In Game four, Pistons couldn't hold the eleven
point lead. That's what everybody ripped on them for. I
looked at it it's a fair way to look at it.
I also looked at it like New York. Everyone's talking
about the experience, right, This is where experience comes into play.
(02:31):
The experience of New York's ability to come back in
a game like that. There's something to be said for that. Well,
guess what. Detroit got pushed like they were up double digits,
quote unquote, gave it away, got pushed to it, and
then they pushed right back. And that tells me more
(02:54):
than if they even if they lose Game six. Okay,
I'm not gonna be one of those guys who goes,
you know what, it was a great season. I'm really happy.
I think they're better than the Knicks in certain areas.
I think the Knicks have. You know, if you look
at Jalen Brunson, Kate Cunningham, if you and I were captains,
remember what you just did as a kid. I don't
know if you did it, Trent, but we did it
(03:14):
all the time. All Right, I'm a captain and you're
a captain. All right, you got first pick. You hated
picking the person last, right, but the first pick. Jalen Brunson,
Cad Cunningham. It's one of the other you're not going
to go wrong, right, Karl Anthony Towns is probably in
that mix, right, And then is it og On Andobi?
Is it Michale Bridges? Is it Tobias Harris for what
(03:37):
he's been able to do in this series? I don't know.
We can debate that New York probably has a little
bit more talent Detroit, especially if Isaiah Stewart or probably has,
you know, a little bit more what I would consider
trustworthy talent coming off the bench. I trust Dennis Shrewder,
I trust Malik Beasley. I would trust a guy like
(03:58):
Isaiah Stewart's. I think there's a little more depth there
for the Pistons, especially given how time Thibodel culches as well.
He loves to run his guys and you know, he
keeps it tight, which I'm that's right or wrong. I
just that's that's the difference. It's a really good coach.
So when you look at it like that, I look
I see that the character that Detroit has shown in
(04:20):
this and especially when a lot of people would have
felt going into the game, the one thing you can't
do is let New York get up. New York was
up after the first quarter, just a bucket, but there's
still up. And the other thing you can't do is
watch them go on these big runs late in the
fourth quarter because these games, every single game has been
decided in the fourth quarter. This is as tight as
(04:40):
series as you can get. It's the most entertaining series
in the entire playoffs. Clippers and Nuggets to a certain extent,
but last time was a blowout for Denver. Jamal Murray
had forty three, Nikolay Yocic had another triple double. Really impressive,
right this has been This has captured the national eye.
You've got news shows on networks showing this right now.
(05:04):
And somebody tweeted out this morning TNT actually thought it
was going to be the Knicks. They put Nicks win
series for one, and then they had to change the
graphic at the end. I don't know if you saw that.
So it's been a really good series. It's been great
for basketball obviously, it's been great for the Pistons, and
it's created some concern for the Knicks. Don't kid yourself,
but there's also a part of them that probably will say,
(05:24):
when this is all said and done, look, that was
a physical series. It was a draining series physically and mentally.
So if we can get by that, then yeah, we
might be able to handle Boston because it's a great rivalry.
If they lose to Boston, they'll be you know what,
They'll be saying that first round series with Detroit took
too much out of us. The Pistons pushed us to
(05:49):
the limit. I'm not talking about an Eagles song here.
I'm saying they pushed you to the limit, and they're
going to be a force to be reckoned with. I
would cost you on that because there's a lot of teams.
I'm probably saying that in Houston too. They're going to
be a force to be reckoned with. They said that
about the Lions in the nineties. It didn't work out
too well. They said it about the Tigers in the eighties.
(06:12):
It worked out a couple of times. So you've got
to be careful. But this is a team, the Pistons,
that has shown I think, immense maturity and character and
I've you know, you appreciate them. During the regular season,
you feel like you've almost fallen in love with them
all over again because of the way they that they
(06:33):
have shown their toughness. I know, I almost went there.
I almost went there. But we love the grit belief
and we think teams in this city need to show it.
And the Pistons are showing it in a one oh
six to one oh three win
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