August 7, 2025 • 8 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mitch Lions Wealth Poll question of the day. It
is a tough one. If you could extend one Detroit athlete,
who would it be, Derek Scoubel, Aiden Hutchinson or Kid Cunningham.
What do you think when we answer this question right
around this time tomorrow morning, what do you think the
winner's going to be? I think it's gonna be Tterrek scoobl.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I do too, but narrowly. I think Aiden Hutchinson will
get a good fraction of the vote too.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I think the timing of the question is probably unfair.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That's a good way to put it, because the Pistons
are the start of everyone's mind too, so Kate probably
won't get many votes.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Right and Schooble starts tomorrow, so oh, and Detroit's in
a rough spot right now and they need it. Will
feel like, you know, I read this article the other
day about the Mets, and we want to dive into
football here, but the Mets have really limited their spending
on starters, like they went all out for a Jan
(00:56):
Soto and I would argue he's been a little bit
of a disappointment this year. Hard to live up to
over seven hundred million dollars in a contract, but they've
really limited their spending on starters. They've been careful on
their starters, and they haven't won a championship. So but
I do wonder if that mental, that that philosophy at
all would follow any Tigers fans when it comes to
(01:20):
Trek's school. I'm going to be honest with you. You know,
how is disappointed I've been with the whole coordinators conversation
with the Lions, Trent. You know, it's just.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's yeah, I mean, you're already sick of it. You've
been sick of it for cobout a few months ago. Yeah,
tell me you haven't it? No, I am. But you've
been vocal about it. You know, you were one of
the first people to say this is going to get
old quick and now it's gotten old and we got
three pre season games to go.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Are what what's this will be another good Mitch Lines
Wealth Poll question in the future. What are you more
tired of people talking about the loss of Detroit's two
coordinators or the Trek Schooble four hundred million dollar contract
that he's going to expect to to get eventually and
should the Tigers one? Don't the Tigers extend him. You
know this is going to be It's not right now
(02:07):
because they're pushing for the division title, a playoff hopefully
in ALCS, maybe a World Series champion. Who knows. Okay,
I don't think there is as good as a lot of
teams in the Major League Baseball right now, but who knows?
This dark cloud, this e or light cloud? Okay, over
(02:29):
yours a reference to Winny of the boop over the
Tigers is going to get bigger and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah. I mean they're just kicking the can down the
road right now, dude, as they should, because.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's going to be every week you and I next.
I'm telling you right now, I don't care if you're
hosting by yourself or you and I are together. It
is going to be awful next year. That's all people
are going to want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Right because as bad as it is this year, it's
going to be time ten next year when he's actually
in the xPy year of a capill track.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And let me correct myself, I think as soon as
the last out is made in the Tiger season, no
matter what if they're popping champagne or if they're packing
their bags and cleaning out their lockers. That's when it's
gonna start, and heavily. It's going to be constant. Which
teams are in line for him, if they were going
(03:22):
to trade him, what could they get? How much money
is it going to take? Compare past Scott Boris clients
to this. It's it's going to be off the rails.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And this goes without saying it's not just a big
Tiger story. It will be maybe the biggest offseason story
in all of baseball.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I can't think of a bigger one. I mean, unless
Bryce Harper retires, you know, something like that. Yeah, you know,
which isn't gonna have That's I can't think of a
bigger name in the offseason who's still under contract. Like,
he's got to go to arbitration. He's going to double
his salary in arbitration easily. Don't you think he can
be twenty million dollars. He's gonna win the cy Young
(04:00):
He's gonna go in front of that that arbitrator, and
he's gonna go, hey, man, I just won back to
back Cy Young's. I'm if he does win the Triple Crown,
I just won back to back triple crowns. I only
made ten million bucks. My buddy here, Jack Flaherty, six
and eleven. Right now, E er close to five. He's
making twenty five mil. I'll sit down and rest of
(04:24):
my case.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And the judge is gonna look at the tigers and
Nktuger's I got nothing. I don't know what to tell you,
because that's what happens in arbitration cases. You know that, right, Yeah,
you go in there, the team is supposed to talk
about what you haven't done. What do you say about.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
How do you even begin to make a case against him?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I don't know how you do that?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
How do you mean his value? He can't?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, how do you go in there and say, listen,
I know it's a deal a ten mil. We can't
justify twenty million. We can give you fifteen, but we
can't justify twenty. Can you give us a reason? Your
honor can have a break for a moment except this
these two utes? Did you say utes? I said, utes?
(05:12):
Just can I have a break for a moment? Because
quite honestly, I tried to prepare for this hearing, and uh,
I can't because he's got receipts, he's got you know people,
you know, when you send out a resume and you've
got references, Cherk Skouber could send a reference from I
(05:34):
don't know, two hundred batters twenty nine managers. You can
include your own number of owners who would love to
have them. I mean, there'd be lined up outside the door.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
This might be a slightly separate conversation. But the one
little wrinkle of this conversation that I can't stand is
when people, Tigers fans, think that he's going to take
less to stay here here. You know what I mean.
You're laughing, you were just for those listening on the radio.
Chef just took a drink and he started laughing.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You're right, you are so correct.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
He's not taking a fraction of a discount.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You know, if I were him, that's one of my favorites.
If I were him, Oh yes, as I put my
ear up to the wall, yes, I'd take him discount,
would you now? Really? Okay? Just started curiosity? Why well,
because we drafted him, Yeah, you drafted him in the
ninth round. You thought so highly of him. You drafted
(06:36):
him in the ninth round. All right, And no matter
what you do, I want you to go into your
boss's office, knock on his door and stay listen. I
really appreciate the job. He's done, a great job. I
don't deserve what you're paying me. Could you pay me less?
(06:57):
Would you mind? I know Ralph over here next to
me is making more money and I do more work.
But that's the reference to Jack flaherty. But could you
just pay me less? Please? Because I just I really
want to be here. I mean, our competitors are knocking
on my door, They're ringing my phone off the hook,
(07:17):
They're sending me emails, sending me texts. They're constantly just
saying to me, you know, we really want you here,
and we'll double your salary. I would like to stay
here for less money. Could you do that for me? Please? Sure,
happy to do that. You can go to payroll right now.
That's going to work out really well. Nobody would do that, nobody,
(07:43):
and I don't expect him to. He's not the bad
guy in this situation. Okay, he's not the bad guy.
The bad guy is the team that won't meet the
market demand. That's the bad guy.
The Mitch Lions Wealth Poll question of the day. It
is a tough one. If you could extend one Detroit athlete,
who would it be, Derek Scoubel, Aiden Hutchinson or Kid Cunningham.
What do you think when we answer this question right
around this time tomorrow morning, what do you think the
winner's going to be? I think it's gonna be Tterrek scoobl.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I do too, but narrowly. I think Aiden Hutchinson will
get a good fraction of the vote too.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I think the timing of the question is probably unfair.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That's a good way to put it, because the Pistons
are the start of everyone's mind too, so Kate probably
won't get many votes.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Right and Schooble starts tomorrow, so oh, and Detroit's in
a rough spot right now and they need it. Will
feel like, you know, I read this article the other
day about the Mets, and we want to dive into
football here, but the Mets have really limited their spending
on starters, like they went all out for a Jan
(00:56):
Soto and I would argue he's been a little bit
of a disappointment this year. Hard to live up to
over seven hundred million dollars in a contract, but they've
really limited their spending on starters. They've been careful on
their starters, and they haven't won a championship. So but
I do wonder if that mental, that that philosophy at
all would follow any Tigers fans when it comes to
(01:20):
Trek's school. I'm going to be honest with you. You know,
how is disappointed I've been with the whole coordinators conversation
with the Lions, Trent. You know, it's just.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's yeah, I mean, you're already sick of it. You've
been sick of it for cobout a few months ago. Yeah,
tell me you haven't it? No, I am. But you've
been vocal about it. You know, you were one of
the first people to say this is going to get
old quick and now it's gotten old and we got
three pre season games to go.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Are what what's this will be another good Mitch Lines
Wealth Poll question in the future. What are you more
tired of people talking about the loss of Detroit's two
coordinators or the Trek Schooble four hundred million dollar contract
that he's going to expect to to get eventually and
should the Tigers one? Don't the Tigers extend him. You
know this is going to be It's not right now
(02:07):
because they're pushing for the division title, a playoff hopefully
in ALCS, maybe a World Series champion. Who knows. Okay,
I don't think there is as good as a lot of
teams in the Major League Baseball right now, but who knows?
This dark cloud, this e or light cloud? Okay, over
(02:29):
yours a reference to Winny of the boop over the
Tigers is going to get bigger and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah. I mean they're just kicking the can down the
road right now, dude, as they should, because.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's going to be every week you and I next.
I'm telling you right now, I don't care if you're
hosting by yourself or you and I are together. It
is going to be awful next year. That's all people
are going to want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Right because as bad as it is this year, it's
going to be time ten next year when he's actually
in the xPy year of a capill track.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And let me correct myself, I think as soon as
the last out is made in the Tiger season, no
matter what if they're popping champagne or if they're packing
their bags and cleaning out their lockers. That's when it's
gonna start, and heavily. It's going to be constant. Which
teams are in line for him, if they were going
(03:22):
to trade him, what could they get? How much money
is it going to take? Compare past Scott Boris clients
to this. It's it's going to be off the rails.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And this goes without saying it's not just a big
Tiger story. It will be maybe the biggest offseason story
in all of baseball.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I can't think of a bigger one. I mean, unless
Bryce Harper retires, you know, something like that. Yeah, you know,
which isn't gonna have That's I can't think of a
bigger name in the offseason who's still under contract. Like,
he's got to go to arbitration. He's going to double
his salary in arbitration easily. Don't you think he can
be twenty million dollars. He's gonna win the cy Young
(04:00):
He's gonna go in front of that that arbitrator, and
he's gonna go, hey, man, I just won back to
back Cy Young's. I'm if he does win the Triple Crown,
I just won back to back triple crowns. I only
made ten million bucks. My buddy here, Jack Flaherty, six
and eleven. Right now, E er close to five. He's
making twenty five mil. I'll sit down and rest of
(04:24):
my case.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And the judge is gonna look at the tigers and
Nktuger's I got nothing. I don't know what to tell you,
because that's what happens in arbitration cases. You know that, right, Yeah,
you go in there, the team is supposed to talk
about what you haven't done. What do you say about.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
How do you even begin to make a case against him?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I don't know how you do that?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
How do you mean his value? He can't?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, how do you go in there and say, listen,
I know it's a deal a ten mil. We can't
justify twenty million. We can give you fifteen, but we
can't justify twenty. Can you give us a reason? Your
honor can have a break for a moment except this
these two utes? Did you say utes? I said, utes?
(05:12):
Just can I have a break for a moment? Because
quite honestly, I tried to prepare for this hearing, and uh,
I can't because he's got receipts, he's got you know people,
you know, when you send out a resume and you've
got references, Cherk Skouber could send a reference from I
(05:34):
don't know, two hundred batters twenty nine managers. You can
include your own number of owners who would love to
have them. I mean, there'd be lined up outside the door.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
This might be a slightly separate conversation. But the one
little wrinkle of this conversation that I can't stand is
when people, Tigers fans, think that he's going to take
less to stay here here. You know what I mean.
You're laughing, you were just for those listening on the radio.
Chef just took a drink and he started laughing.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You're right, you are so correct.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
He's not taking a fraction of a discount.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You know, if I were him, that's one of my favorites.
If I were him, Oh yes, as I put my
ear up to the wall, yes, I'd take him discount,
would you now? Really? Okay? Just started curiosity? Why well,
because we drafted him, Yeah, you drafted him in the
ninth round. You thought so highly of him. You drafted
(06:36):
him in the ninth round. All right, And no matter
what you do, I want you to go into your
boss's office, knock on his door and stay listen. I
really appreciate the job. He's done, a great job. I
don't deserve what you're paying me. Could you pay me less?
(06:57):
Would you mind? I know Ralph over here next to
me is making more money and I do more work.
But that's the reference to Jack flaherty. But could you
just pay me less? Please? Because I just I really
want to be here. I mean, our competitors are knocking
on my door, They're ringing my phone off the hook,
(07:17):
They're sending me emails, sending me texts. They're constantly just
saying to me, you know, we really want you here,
and we'll double your salary. I would like to stay
here for less money. Could you do that for me? Please? Sure,
happy to do that. You can go to payroll right now.
That's going to work out really well. Nobody would do that, nobody,
(07:43):
and I don't expect him to. He's not the bad
guy in this situation. Okay, he's not the bad guy.
The bad guy is the team that won't meet the
market demand. That's the bad guy.
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