July 24, 2025 • 7 mins
With many quarterback rankings slotting Jalen Hurts near the bottom of the Top 10, what more does the Super Bowl champion Eagles QB need to prove to fans and media?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There was an article on one of the websites. I
think it was CBS Sports. Maybe it's ESPN. I think
it was ESPN where the scouts and the executives and
the coaches of the National Football League voted on top
ten quarterbacks, top ten wide receivers. You remember we went
through all this, Okay, Jalen Hurts, if you remember, on
(00:26):
the quarterback rankings determined by so many of those was
pretty far down the line. And Jalen Hurts was ranked
behind Jaden Daniels, who has only played one year, ranked
behind a number of different quarterbacks, Justin Herbert, Jared Goff,
(00:56):
and I like Jared Goff, and I think Jaden Daniels
is really good. Is that a disrespectful type vote on
Jalen Hurts to be as low as he was on
that list when ESPN dropped those rankings. If you recall,
(01:20):
we went over it, but it was a while ago.
Patrick Mahomes was number one. You can understand. Josh Allen
was number two. You could understand he was the MVP
for crying out loud. Joe Burrow was three, Lamar Jackson four,
Jayden Daniels five, Matthew Stafford six, Justin Herbert seven, Jared
Goff eight, Jalen Hurts nine, Baker Mayfield ten. Jalen Hurts
(01:45):
was the MVP of the Super Bowl. Jalen Hurts has
led his team to two Super Bowls in a three
year span. If that's somebody else, I'm wondering where the
(02:07):
disrespect stops and starts.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Like.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
He's been in the league seven years. He's led his
team to seven playoff appearances. He's been in the league
seven years. He's led his team to four title game appearances.
He's been a Super Bowl MVP. He is eighty nine
and twenty. He's won four times as many games as
(02:37):
he's lost more than that. In other words, he's a
proven winner. If you don't want to even take the
college into account, you don't have to. I mean, leading
a team to two national championship games is pretty damn
good as far as I'm concerned. Sixteen and seventeen, but
put that aside. He's the only quarterback to lead the
(02:57):
Eagles to multiple fourteen plus wins. He's one of eight
quarterbacks to start in two Super Bowls in his first
five seasons. He's the first quarterback since John Elway to
lose his Super Bowl debut and then go on to
win the Super Bowl and the first quarterback since Jim
(03:18):
Kelly to lose his Super Bowl debut and go back
to the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I guess my question to people that have him ranked
that law would be, what more do you need to
see from him? Like? What more does he have to
prove to you? What? What would raise him up on
your list?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Thank you? He's twenty seven, by the way, And.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I think a lot of what we hear with Jalen
Hurts when people give pushback is they think that offensive
line and Saquon Barkley is what's driving that.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
AYJ Brown, Yeah, fun day Smith and their defense. And
I guess my rebuttal percent right there.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
My rebuttal would always be like, Okay, is Derek Henry
pretty good for Lamar Jackson? Yes, Travis Kelsey pretty good
for Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, you know, of course these guys
have supporting cast.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Fairness to your but your argument was totally valid, and
I think you're dead on there. Nobody's talking about Patrick
Mahomes's defense like they were against Philly. No one's talking
about his offensive line like they do against Philly. My
argument is always is there a quarterback, who's ever won
a Super Bowl, who's had a really crappy offensive line
(04:24):
or skill position players or defense.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
No, I can't think of one.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
There might be, I just don't know who they are.
I can't I count off the top of my head.
Like Peyton Manning when he won with Indianapolis, they weren't
very good defensively during the regular season. Postseason, they were
really good. We don't say that about guys for some reason.
Nobody holds it against Joe Montana that he had Jerry
Rice and John Taylor and Roger Craig and a really
(04:54):
good offensive line and a really good defense. Why I
don't hold it against Roger Staubach for having Drew Pearson
and Tony Dorsett and Billy Joe Dupree MSU and really
good defensive players. Randy White was an absolute beast. He's
(05:15):
the only defensive tackle to every win MVP Harvey Martin.
Those guys were animals. They were awesome. So I guess
I'm struggling to figure out what he needs to do
to prove himself where he ranks. Like would I take
him over Burrow Nope? Or Jackson or Alan or Mahomes No.
(05:41):
And I like Jayden Daniels. You know that I thought
he was the better college quarterback coming out of LSU
than Caleb Williams. I may be proven wrong there. Just
because one year I was right doesn't mean I am
totally right. But that's where it gets really murky, don't
you think.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I think he's closer five than he is to ten.
And I guess that's agreed. Yes, that's a great way
to put it. And he's ninth right now, not closer
to ten than he would be five. And it does
seem like every ranking you look at he's around eight
or nine. And I just don't understand what more he
needs to prove to people.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
People aren't because people are afraid to go there, Trent.
Here's why they're afraid to go there. I think all
the things you mentioned. Also, it's not like he's this tall,
stand in the pocket or elegant running quarterback like Josh Allen. Right.
He doesn't make those crazy plays like Patrick Mahomes. He
doesn't break rushing records like Lamar Jackson. He's not cool
(06:41):
like Joe Burrow. Okay, he doesn't have these unbelievable throws
like Jayden Daniels. Does against the Bears, Well, a cornerback
is waving goodbye to the teeth. And I forgotten all
these things, those those quote unquote moments. Remember earlier in
the week, I was saying, somebody actually said that Scottie
Scheffler doesn't have any big moments. And I'm laughing my
(07:03):
ass off because in the gold medal in the Olympics,
he was down five in the back nine and one.
Don't tell me there wasn't any big moments there. You're
trying to tell me there's no big moments for Jalen Hurts.
Here's what he is. He's productive and he's a winner.
There was an article on one of the websites. I
think it was CBS Sports. Maybe it's ESPN. I think
it was ESPN where the scouts and the executives and
the coaches of the National Football League voted on top
ten quarterbacks, top ten wide receivers. You remember we went
through all this, Okay, Jalen Hurts, if you remember, on
(00:26):
the quarterback rankings determined by so many of those was
pretty far down the line. And Jalen Hurts was ranked
behind Jaden Daniels, who has only played one year, ranked
behind a number of different quarterbacks, Justin Herbert, Jared Goff,
(00:56):
and I like Jared Goff, and I think Jaden Daniels
is really good. Is that a disrespectful type vote on
Jalen Hurts to be as low as he was on
that list when ESPN dropped those rankings. If you recall,
(01:20):
we went over it, but it was a while ago.
Patrick Mahomes was number one. You can understand. Josh Allen
was number two. You could understand he was the MVP
for crying out loud. Joe Burrow was three, Lamar Jackson four,
Jayden Daniels five, Matthew Stafford six, Justin Herbert seven, Jared
Goff eight, Jalen Hurts nine, Baker Mayfield ten. Jalen Hurts
(01:45):
was the MVP of the Super Bowl. Jalen Hurts has
led his team to two Super Bowls in a three
year span. If that's somebody else, I'm wondering where the
(02:07):
disrespect stops and starts.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Like.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
He's been in the league seven years. He's led his
team to seven playoff appearances. He's been in the league
seven years. He's led his team to four title game appearances.
He's been a Super Bowl MVP. He is eighty nine
and twenty. He's won four times as many games as
(02:37):
he's lost more than that. In other words, he's a
proven winner. If you don't want to even take the
college into account, you don't have to. I mean, leading
a team to two national championship games is pretty damn
good as far as I'm concerned. Sixteen and seventeen, but
put that aside. He's the only quarterback to lead the
(02:57):
Eagles to multiple fourteen plus wins. He's one of eight
quarterbacks to start in two Super Bowls in his first
five seasons. He's the first quarterback since John Elway to
lose his Super Bowl debut and then go on to
win the Super Bowl and the first quarterback since Jim
(03:18):
Kelly to lose his Super Bowl debut and go back
to the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I guess my question to people that have him ranked
that law would be, what more do you need to
see from him? Like? What more does he have to
prove to you? What? What would raise him up on
your list?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Thank you? He's twenty seven, by the way, And.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I think a lot of what we hear with Jalen
Hurts when people give pushback is they think that offensive
line and Saquon Barkley is what's driving that.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
AYJ Brown, Yeah, fun day Smith and their defense. And
I guess my rebuttal percent right there.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
My rebuttal would always be like, Okay, is Derek Henry
pretty good for Lamar Jackson? Yes, Travis Kelsey pretty good
for Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, you know, of course these guys
have supporting cast.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Fairness to your but your argument was totally valid, and
I think you're dead on there. Nobody's talking about Patrick
Mahomes's defense like they were against Philly. No one's talking
about his offensive line like they do against Philly. My
argument is always is there a quarterback, who's ever won
a Super Bowl, who's had a really crappy offensive line
(04:24):
or skill position players or defense.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
No, I can't think of one.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
There might be, I just don't know who they are.
I can't I count off the top of my head.
Like Peyton Manning when he won with Indianapolis, they weren't
very good defensively during the regular season. Postseason, they were
really good. We don't say that about guys for some reason.
Nobody holds it against Joe Montana that he had Jerry
Rice and John Taylor and Roger Craig and a really
(04:54):
good offensive line and a really good defense. Why I
don't hold it against Roger Staubach for having Drew Pearson
and Tony Dorsett and Billy Joe Dupree MSU and really
good defensive players. Randy White was an absolute beast. He's
(05:15):
the only defensive tackle to every win MVP Harvey Martin.
Those guys were animals. They were awesome. So I guess
I'm struggling to figure out what he needs to do
to prove himself where he ranks. Like would I take
him over Burrow Nope? Or Jackson or Alan or Mahomes No.
(05:41):
And I like Jayden Daniels. You know that I thought
he was the better college quarterback coming out of LSU
than Caleb Williams. I may be proven wrong there. Just
because one year I was right doesn't mean I am
totally right. But that's where it gets really murky, don't
you think.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I think he's closer five than he is to ten.
And I guess that's agreed. Yes, that's a great way
to put it. And he's ninth right now, not closer
to ten than he would be five. And it does
seem like every ranking you look at he's around eight
or nine. And I just don't understand what more he
needs to prove to people.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
People aren't because people are afraid to go there, Trent.
Here's why they're afraid to go there. I think all
the things you mentioned. Also, it's not like he's this tall,
stand in the pocket or elegant running quarterback like Josh Allen. Right.
He doesn't make those crazy plays like Patrick Mahomes. He
doesn't break rushing records like Lamar Jackson. He's not cool
(06:41):
like Joe Burrow. Okay, he doesn't have these unbelievable throws
like Jayden Daniels. Does against the Bears, Well, a cornerback
is waving goodbye to the teeth. And I forgotten all
these things, those those quote unquote moments. Remember earlier in
the week, I was saying, somebody actually said that Scottie
Scheffler doesn't have any big moments. And I'm laughing my
(07:03):
ass off because in the gold medal in the Olympics,
he was down five in the back nine and one.
Don't tell me there wasn't any big moments there. You're
trying to tell me there's no big moments for Jalen Hurts.
Here's what he is. He's productive and he's a winner.
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