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September 5, 2025 • 13 mins
Rob Rubick joins the show for our inaugural "What's Brewing?" segment presented by Ferris Coffee Co. Rubick dives into the Lions' matchup with the Packers and discusses what it'll take for the Lions to start the season 1-0.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Really excited for Friday's eight thirty five. Every Friday, we
will have What's Ruined with Rubes, brought to you by
Ferris Coffee right there in Grand Rapids, outstanding product. Rubes
and I were there not too long ago doing a
live broadcast. We're going to talk Lions. We're going to
talk everything that Rubes wants to talk about, minus beer,
and he joins us here on the Lindsay Hunter Foundation hotline.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey buddy, how are you? Oh good? Say? You know,
for a sixty year old man, you sound pretty good.
You're not supposed to say that. Damn it.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Please, let's keep something private, shall we. It's great to
have you on. It's great to have you every single week.
It's going to be great to really talk Lions and packers.
And so first I want your thoughts from last night,
because last night was interesting. Dallas's offense was a little
bit better than I thought they would be against a
Philly defense. But it all starts with Jalen Carter. You're

(00:52):
a player and you're his teammate or you're playing against him.
What immediately crosses your mind when you see a guy
like that spit in another place? Then get ejected?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Selfish. Yeah, just really just not not very bright and selfish.
And I don't know if he's a bright guy or not.
That action was not very bright. It was stupid. You
just don't do that. You hurt your team. And you
look at Dallas at success running between the guards a
little bit during the night, more than they would have
with Jalen Carter in the game. After seeing that Dak
had spit a little bit that direction, but he was

(01:24):
ten feet away and he kind of liked the peck
on you guys, and then he came up and spit
on him. That's just so disrespectful to the game, to yourself,
to your opponent. Just you don't do it. Chep you
know that.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, Dak Prescott also had two large human beings in
front of him. He was spitting on the ground. It
wasn't spitting at somebody those two large human beings. If
anybody was being spit at, it was his own teammates
for crying out loud, Yeah, because they were blocking Jalen Carter.
Rob Rubik joining us What's Bruined with Rubes every Friday
eight thirty five here on Exers and Bros. Brought to
you by our friends at Ferres Coffee, the official coffee

(01:57):
maker of the Detroit Lions. Let's talk a little about
the Lions and what you like going into the season
and maybe what concerned your first What are the positives
about a team that you hope is a little healthier
than last year but just as productive.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, you saw the difference in the Eagles last night
when they had a few of the guys that were,
you know, cornerstones last year and of a sudden they're
gone and they're replacing them. They weren't as good defensively
as we've seen that Egles team be. And people need
to understand about the Lions last year when they had
the bad lossins Washington, it was partially because the offense
wasn't perfect, and the offense had been perfect so much
was able to hide a lot of the flaws and

(02:32):
that beat up defense. Well, they I think their defense
should come out of the whole being better. It should
look more like a defense we saw start last season.
If that happens, then the offense doesn't have to be
perfect and the offense is going to I think have
it struggles at times early which people think they're just
going to go right back in and be flowing and scoring. Well,
you lose an offense coordinator. Now Morton comes in and

(02:54):
obviously Ben tutored under him, so he should be fine.
And you have dudes. I mean, you've got Jami Gibbs,
and you've got Laporter, You've got Amrah, you got you
still got Decker and Panay Sewell and you've got Montean.
You've got guys, you got playership. You know, you can
look back over the last forty or fifty years, the
Lions have never had this much talent. So they're good.
They have good personnel. Now will that personnel be a

(03:17):
well oiled machine like we saw at the end of
last year scoring at will? It seemed like no, it'll
sputter a little bit in the beginning here. But I
just think losing, and I know you're gonna be all
over this because you're a huge center and guard guy.
You do you understand football, and losing rag now is
going to be big. I like Graham Glascow better at
center than I do a guard. I think he was

(03:38):
someone with a turnstile like guard at times. He's not
very good one on one at a guard position even
but I think at center he'll be better because he's
just he's more of a helper one way or the
other in protection, so he should be better there. He
won't be as good as rag now obviously, but they're
going to take a step back and a lot depends
on the development of their young guards. You know, I mean,

(03:58):
you know, how's the money going to be? Is he
going to be Mahogany? And what do you found out?
Is it Mahogany or mahome Christian Mahogany. Hows Mahogany is
going to be in there? It's such a small sample size,
a good sample science. What we saw. Uh, he performed
well in a few games they have done tape, but
it's going to be different when doub teams get to
see you on tape and they know they're going to

(04:18):
see you week after week after week, and they're going
to start fighting flaws in your game. That's what the
NFL does. They're they're they're like blood and the water type.
So we'll see how that line does. GoF needs to
be protected. Chefer. You and I talk about this all
the time. When he's protected. I call him a great
seven on seven quarterback. He's smart, he's accurate, Whi's the
number one thing you have to be. He's extremely accurate

(04:39):
as a passer and he gets the ball where it
needs to be. But he's not elusive. He's not mobile.
He cannot extend place. So that being said, you better
create a clean pocket and that his guys work the field.
And if you do that, it'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Micah Parsons is going to be a problem, just like
Aiden Hutchinson's going to be a problem. How much does
Michaeh Parsons up end this division? Do you think by
going to from Dallas to Green Bay?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
We'll see how long he can be a problem positive
or negative for your team too. I mean, he why
we let people have podcasts. If I'm an owner, I'm
gonna say you work for me. I'm gonna pay you
fifty million. Now. If you go get a podcast and
get sixty million, so be it. But if not, you
don't get too heavy podcast. You work for me. That's
my job as a teacher. I couldn't go and have

(05:25):
a podcast about schools. You know what I'm saying. It
does no good. There's nothing good comes from that. He
was alienated his teammates in Dallas, and what's going to
change now? Why is he not going to do the
Green Bay? And Green Bay is a small fish bowl. Now, yeah,
you know you do something at Green Bay, people are
going to know. It's as you know it's it's going
to be in the limelight in the forefront there. So

(05:46):
I think he could be a cancer at times. And
Chef we talk about the cap. They have one hundred
million dollars day be in the packers between two players,
So now they get one hundred and eighty million to
divy up with fifty one. That to hamstering yourself. I
think now it's the media good impact because he's a dude.
You know, he has great quickness, great speed. He's going

(06:07):
to present issues, but he doesn't touch the ball every play.
Jordan love paying him. I get it. It's your quarterback.
He touches them all every single play. He impacts the
game way more. Now he can really impact the game.
Parsons can, but not in the same manner. And you're
paying him almost as much as a quarterback. And and
if I doesn't have to get this in line, they've
got to figure this out because it just it's not

(06:29):
gonna work. You can't be paying you cantering yourself paying
this guy so much in line is going to be
facing this issue Chep. As we know, I'm kind of
debating from the topic here, but they got a lot
of guys coming up that they're gonna have to take
care of it. You're gonna lose. You're not able to
find them all.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
No, I mean, you've got fifty three million to Jared Goff.
You talk about cap space, you talk about cap percentage.
It's it's a really good point. Michael Parsons is also
a guy, and I think this is really good. Don't
get me wrong. Last year he played eighty two percent
of the snaps. The year before he played eighty one
percent of the snaps. When Aiden Hutchinson was healthy two
years ago, he played ninety one percent. When Ali McNeil

(07:06):
played last year, he played eighty percent. In other words,
he's playing about the same percentage as Micah Parsons. That
might go up for Green Bay. We'll soon find out.
It's what's ruined with Rubes joining us here. Rob Rubik
the former Lion on the Lindsay Hunter Foundation guest line
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one hundred years.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Great Coffee Chep too. By the way, remember last of
they hooked us up big time and oh my god,
my friend's up Norse at the Kye. You're like, where
did you do this? So I sent him to Feris.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, and they've got the Lions packaging.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
That helps a little bit.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
And when you drink coffee, when you eat anything, it's
always an h and you're always going.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
After Ferris coffee.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Is How do you
look at the NFC North because there's a lot of
people jumping on that Green Bay bandwagon. Are you one
of them?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, I've been on the Green me and the Packers.
I hate him, but I think they're just I think
it's one of the better organizations over the past thirty
forty years. Granted, when you have two Hall of Fame
quarterbacks that helps you obviously moves out a lot of bumps.
But I just think they made a lot of good
decisions in the front office over the years. It's a
very well run program. Yeah, they're really good. They got
talent too, They got I don't they don't have this

(08:21):
many dudes. I just talked to my buddy Jim, who's
been a lifetime Packer fan. But you know, you don't.
You only need so many dudes, and you just need
a bunch of guys that don't beat. You. Just get
a bunch of guys that line up. They don't hold,
they don't they don't jump outside. They catch the ball
if you throw it to me, you know, like Jimmy
Patrick was for us for a few years or even
though he's limited with his ability now and he's gone

(08:42):
because you know, he got old. But guys like that,
when you call upon him, they make plays. And Green
Bay's got a lot of that. And they got two
dudes too now. And Jordan Love. I think the jury
still out. Ship. I know we've talked about Jordan Love
and I think you know, you look at his arm strength,
his arm accuracy. At times, it's all pretty dann good.
It's upper level stuff, but some of the decision making

(09:04):
has not always been great. You're gonna but let me
kind of backtracking that you're gonna make. And the thing is,
we hold these quarterbacks as such a high standard, and
you're gonna make bad decisions. It's you have the ball
every plane, lad, you're gonna throw one. The coverage, you're
gonna you're gonna make a bad throw. It it's just
it's all about timing, and his timing over the last

(09:24):
couple of years when he's made those bad decisions have
been really costly. So that's what kind of stands out
in your mind. But I think he's pretty talented and
he's got some speed outside. You know, they got Jacobs
as a running back. He's a thumber. He's good. They've
improved the offensive line. They're losing Kenny Clark, Now that's
gonna hurt you. I'm so glad he's gone. I mean,
we couldn't lock him in the run or pass game.

(09:46):
It seemed like for years he's been just a thorn
in our side, so we have Losing him will hurt too.
But obviously getting Michael will help. So yeah, they're good.
The Vikings. I'm not all in. I think they have
really good personnel. But anytime you a quarterback that hasn't
you know, done anything in the league yet, and you're
kind of saying you can win the division with this guy,

(10:07):
he could prove me wrong. I mean, I know you'pecually
a good division.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
If this Stroud in Houston, that's different.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Best.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yes, I think people in the FCS White Challenge.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, if JJ plays average football. Vikings will be in
it to win it. I mean, they'll have a chance.
He just has to play average because they have enough
talent around him. And then the Bears, who knows, they
got a lot man they got They've made a lot
of moves personnel wise, and we know what Ben can do.
Colin plays, he's a really good play caller. Did that
make him a really good head coach? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Lastly, from you, what do you think is the most
important thing for Detroit to get a win in Green Bay?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Will be you fix good questions? You know, I'm kind
of going off the cyber, but I forget what the
question was. But remember what I try to ask guys question.
It is so hard because you want to answer form
you never do. And I appreciate that what the key
will be for the Lion to get a win in
Green Bay? This is so o vanilla. And I know

(11:11):
you can't turn it over the turnovers and the reason
people need to understand why turnovers are so important is
you want even possessions in the game. If you each
get the ball eleven times, you like your chances. If
you're a Lions fan, because with our offense getting eleven
times our defense, I like, if we both get it eleven times,
we're gonna win. But if you turn it over twice
now you're basically getting nine possessions and they're getting thirteen.

(11:35):
So that's tough. So that's why the turner you cannot
lose a turnover better against a good team on the road,
you do not win. I mean, it's a I don't
know the percentages, but it's got to be extremely high.
And running the football. I think with Kenny Clark gone,
and you're gonna have some young guys in there, I
think many may be. You know, we all talk about
Jamier and what the free key is, but Money's a

(11:55):
little bit of the thumper now and he can help
you possess the ball. What a great way to get
a young offensive line, which I guess young bodies, new
bodies I should say not young because Graham's not young.
Pound the ball a little bit inside and run on
pass plays like Ben Johnson used to do it, and
we saw the Cowboys have success with the last against
the Egos. You get second and ten or eleven, run it.
You know that everyone thinks you're gonna throw in the NFL.

(12:15):
Nothing wrong with running that as well, chef, so run
the ball turnovers and it sounds banilla, but it's true.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I know you don't like the Packers, but I also
know because you and I have been to Lambeau together,
it's still a special place. What did you enjoy most
about playing there?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Though? The grass? When I played, they actually had grass.
Now they got like the Bermuda stuff. No. I liked
the long bladed grass chef like we have in Michigan,
you know. And I always I was a great equalizer.
I was. I was fast. I was never quick, you
know what I'm saying. There's a difference fast twitch quickness
and cut. I was straight in line fast. So to me,

(12:52):
it did change me at all because I didn't have
the quickness. But some of the guys the turf and
the shore, they lose a little bit of quickness. So
I like it. And it was like fun after the
land on too. I played playing in the road.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I know, it's like playing on the hood of a car.
It's real, absolutely all right. Enjoy the game, my friend.
It's great to miss you to uh, really excited that
we're going to be talking every Friday eight thirty five.
And what's brewin with the Rubes, brought to by Ferris Coffee.
Tell Deb and everybody who said hello, it's great to
visit with you. We'll see you again. Have a great weekend, buddy, same.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Keep up the great work, chef.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Thanks appreciate that very much. Rob Ruwick joining us on
What's Bruin with Rube, brought to you by Ferris Coffee.
On the Lindsay Hunter Foundation Guest Line
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