October 3, 2025 • 18 mins
Lions analyst Rob Rubick joins the show for our weekly "What's Brewing?" segment thanks to Ferris Coffee Co. Rubes recaps a Lions win over the Cleveland Browns, and looks ahead to a matchup with the undermanned Cincinnati Bengals. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
So I hurt my hip at the gym and ended
up at PHI Urgent Care. They really took care of me.
They referred me to one of their physios and while
working on my core, the physio noticed I was walking
a little oddly, so she refers me to a VHI
podiatrist and he.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Was able to help me correct my gait. So yeah,
it was really great how VHI was able to connect.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
All the dots.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Vhi, because your health means everything.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I just can't be out there, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Power me what a game going on, you know, because
like the player could come my way in you know,
I want to be in the right mindset, so you know,
I just.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Keep a cuting mind mother.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
On the field, I'm not worry about targets out more
worried about the Wayne.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
He's playing a good game, you know, who played a
good offense, good defense, opener, good team.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So you no, I'd rather focus on leaving the game
than you know, a game, a third kitch or something.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I love that attitude for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
It's a fantastic attitude displayed by Jamison Williams. I see
in his Lions teammates get ready to take on the
Bengals in Cincinnati this weekend. It is time for What's
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Speaker 4 (01:51):
Rubes.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
Good morning to you, my friend, hope all as well
when you hear about the news with Alee McNeil, who
is starting to practice and the clock is now on.
When you know that tyry On Arnold will be back
this weekend, even though people thought he would be lost.
There's a lot of positive things happening on the defensive
side and in the health department for Detroit. On top
(02:12):
of that, they're already a really good football team. What
do you gauge as the vibe around the Lions right
now with three and one head into Sincy.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Well, what I've also noticed, Shep is that Covid Shepherd
the DC is starting to figure this out a little
bit too. He's trying to figure out what type of
personnelity has on that back end and the secondary, and
he's starting to mix it a little bit more of
his own play. You're not trying to all man press
because he doesn't have the Darius Slaves of the world
that can just lock people down. So he has kind
of mixed it up a little bit more and I
(02:41):
think that's helped him. I mean, he's done more zone
over the last week or so, and it's a learning
process for him as well. But giving these bodies back,
I mean, I think Lee McNeil one is because she
last year we saw the great push he got in
the middle, and you and I we talked to Matthew
Stafford all the time prior to the games, and you know,
Gary Danis Hip or friends of mine. Any quarterback would
(03:02):
tell you they hate inside pressure way more than outside pressure.
Outside pressure you step up, you step under it, but
inside pressure is in your face. It's harder to see,
and what you're follow through, you're worry about hitting your
hand on helmets. So we get to lean back, things
will really really pick up at that defensive front. I believe.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
This is a team right now that leads the league
in scoring and they lead the league in sacks. Which
one is more surprising to you?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Oh, come on, that's the layup, that's the dog. Yeah,
it's the sacks. I mean, we know this team's going
to score. They got too many dudes on the off
at the side of the ball they got I was
telling someone they got seven or eight guys that could
leave here and start for pretty much every team in
the NFL. That's pretty rare that you have that many
guys on one side of the ball. Yeah, So it's
(03:49):
the sacks that has really been the surprise to me. Now,
some of it's, you know, play the Browns, who we
know are pretty poorous up front and they're going to
get it. But the the Baltimore won the seven they
got to get to Baltimore. That was just amazing. And
you know, Lamar counts for a few of them too,
because he does move out of the pockets. He doesn't
(04:10):
stay in the pocket. Maybe just throw the ball away.
He tries to make something happen, so you pick up
a couple bonus sacks that way. But they've had good pressure.
I mean they've collapsed the pocket evenly every game. They've
been consistent. So yeah, that's been a real shock to me.
But that's one of the reasons this defense is having
some success.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, I don't disagree with any of that. You brought
that up. With the offense and all the different weapons.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
I marvel at how they're able to keep everybody so
team oriented. What do you think the biggest challenge is
for coaches in general? I don't care if it's football,
I don't care if it's any other sport, but trying
to make sure everybody is still happy about winning and
competing instead.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Of their own personal stats.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
No, that was that a Jamo hit I heard coming on.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
It was Jamison Won coming about gap.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
He got paid, didn't he? He just recently realized him
they did.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, three years.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Happy when you're paid, it's not gonna lie, so he's
got so that kind of pacifies him. And he might
be one that I hate the stereotape, but just some
of his actions on and off the field, you might
come to believe that he might be one of those
selfish players. Although if you look at him, but he's
done on the field. Even before he got paid, he
was always blocking downfield. And that's just a tribute to
(05:26):
Dan and Camp one hundred percent. That's, you know, your
head coach. Sometimes it doesn't do a lot during the
game because he has an offense, cordinaer, defense cornator. He's
a he's a player manager, a clock manager, a game manager.
But during the week he obviously has impact on this
young man. He's got this young man to buy in
with like everyone else. You watch his locker rooms after
(05:46):
the game. His team is locked in on him. They
believe in him. They believe that if they follow him
that they're going to have success. And when you have
success as a team and you get to the pinnacle ship,
everyone gets paid. You know what I'm saying. It's a
thing where I can remember, even back in the day
before we had free agency, all the guys in San
Francisco they're getting paid more than everyone else. You know
(06:07):
why because they're winning Super Bowls. Yeah, and you do that.
It all comes back to you.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, and singing on Huey Lewis Records, Rob Rubig with
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(06:32):
throughout the country and go online and also find him
at Meyer as well. I think Taylor Decker is kind
of flying under the proverbial radar. I think he's so
much better than we give him credit for. When we
look at the Lions, you talked about all the different players,
you know, and I know who you're referring to, and
then when we think about the offensive line, we look
(06:53):
at Penney sool. What's impression most about Taylor Decker? A
guy who's been doing this a long time. You know
he's beat up, but he is still playing at a
very high level.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Okay, A couple of things, Chef. First, though, I know
your team me up because you know I've loved Taylor
Decker since they one. All the dude does is line
up and play. He's the Jeff Backus of the new
millennium here. He's a Jeff Backus I thought was underappreciated
for years with the Lions. All he did was line up,
start every week and protect. Give an occasional sack or pressure,
but for the most part did his job. I mean,
(07:26):
was a good player for many, many years. That's Taylor Decker.
Tonay Sewell gets a lot of the hype and the
love because he's more versatile. He's better in space. You know,
he's a good guy as a tackle to highlight, because
he can run. He gets out where Decker is more
of a like a pocket passer is a tackle. He's
going to be there. He's gonna do a good job
in pass pro. He fights, he scraps, he run blocks.
(07:48):
He is a guy that every other team in the
NFL would love to have. I'm telling you, he's one
of the guys I was talking about when I said
there's seven or eight guys, I mean, he's one of them.
He's been a really a borderline All Pro player for
his career, and he's played a lot and he's played hurt.
And that's what I don't see a lot anymore nowadays.
They say that guys get hurt, nicked and they sit out.
(08:10):
I know they're protecting the money, these owners are and
the coasters are. But man, Taylor Decker, I love him.
I just think he's had a wonderful career and he
you know, he's like right now. He's played hurt for
a lot of years. And Frank gave us quality play
week after week. And Sheep, I like about you, Bud.
You've always been an O line guy. Oh yeah, I
(08:31):
mean I mean when this draft time you're going up
and down the line, you could put the receivers, the
tight ends, the quarterbacks, they can go in the next
room because you're looking at the guards and the tackles
and the centers every year because you understand, you understand football,
and that's why this Lions team has been good. This offense.
They got weapons, but if you can't get at your weapons,
you can't protect. And look at the Bengals, I mean
they had great weapons too, but they could protect them,
(08:53):
you know, beating up your quarterback.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Well, I would advise everyone to follow Auburn a little
bit more of the year. Connor low, the center for Auburn,
is really good. He's really good, and it might be
he might really look good in a in a Lion's
uniform as well. Taylor deckro a big reason why Jared
Goff has the thirteenth lowest rate AM on quarterbacks and
be impression in dropbacks. So I give him a ton
(09:17):
of credit. I love what this team is doing. We
had a conversation earlier today about Aman Ross Saint Brown.
I want to know from you how good you think
he is, and what does he do best and who
does he remind you most of?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Well, I hate to do this, but he reminds me
a little bit of a Steve Largent. He reminds me
a little bit of a Julian Edelman. He is don't
don't play Julian Edelman. Everyone will give Tom Brady, but
Julian Edelman was a great space guy. He could in
small spaces. He had a way of getting open. He
has a great feel for the game. He a grabber
(09:56):
of the football and he's good after the catch. And
Steve Largent the same way. Now he was in an
era when they didn't throw it seventy percent of the time,
which excuse all these stats that we're seeing. You know,
they're talking about Puku Naku or whatever he had fifty
catch Well, yeah, they throw it, you know, forty fifty
times a game, right, right, So anyways, but he just
(10:17):
the stat they throughout their chep and I know you
saw it was how many catches he had for first downs. Yeah,
it was the most. I mean more than Jamar Chase,
more than Jefferson, more than any of those dudes. And
to me, that is important. That is what keeps drives going.
That's what puts points on the board. And he's great
in the red zone. You know, those are a couple
(10:38):
of guys he reminds me of. You know, he doesn't
take the top off. When's the last time he's had
a fifty yard play?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, I mean I agree with last year.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I can remember.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yes, that's why I don't know, Larry Fitzgerald, be careful there.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I like Brown who stretched a little bit more.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yeah, you loved Antonio Brown in college. You said that
dude's going to be a pro when you and I
were calling Eastern together and he was at Central Michigan.
He's probably got more speed than I'm on Ross saying Brown,
I likened him to him a little bit. Somebody liking
him to Heinz Ward. What are your thoughts on the
comparison with Heinz wh.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I think he's I think he's better than Hines Ward. Okay,
I do. I think Aman Rojers has something about him,
is such an unbelievable feel he can catch the ball.
Heinsmore was a really good player. Don't get me wrong.
I would not trade him for Amara, saying bro, he
he is trending, Chef. I'm telling you the numbers he's
putting up. You know what I'm saying. We're the same
trending now. This was our game back in the day. Yeah, yeah, trending. Now.
(11:32):
He's got to do three four more years of this,
but who knows.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah, and he can do it for sure.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
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Sanders did a mime as a vote is believed to
be a mock of what Rex Ryan said about him
(11:59):
and his unwillingness to concentrate and be professional. How do
you think players? In his own locker room, he was
asked the question about Dylan Gabriel being the starter instead
of Joe Flacco and how Sanders is still third on
the depth chart, and he just mined his response, there's
no audio there, just mind it. What do you think
players look at when they see a guy like that
(12:21):
acting so immaturely?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Well, I'll tell you this. I just told this story
last night, and this is how impressions can stick with you.
When I was with the Lions in eighty nine, the
year we drafted Barry, we've down in Florida. It was
eighty eight. Maybe I don't know one of the two,
but anyways, Pat Carter was a tight end. We had
drafted from Florida State, and we're at our mini camp
in Florida, and I can remember Deonn Sanders, who was
(12:45):
still in college, came to our practice and afterwards, you know,
Pat was talking to him and he had the gold
chains and everything draped all over him, and I saw
to got he made us feel like he was looking
down at us. And you know what, Deon Sanders probably
one of the greatest corners ever, good man, probably good Christian.
I don't care. I've never liked him because the impression
(13:07):
he gave me there at that one time I saw him,
which is, you know, I'm probably wrong by doing this,
but he just gave me an impression that he was
above everything. And that's the impression you got when you
look at the draft parties and stuff that they were
having with Shadora Sanders and all this stuff and all,
and then it didn't happen. I just I just had
that bad taste. And some of it's not from him.
(13:28):
It's not his fault. Maybe comes from his father, who
you know, he's put him in the Hall of Fame
at Colorado. Yeah, what what I mean? Come on, He
coached his son, he highlighted.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
His son, and people don't see it. That's my bigger problem.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
My problem is people don't see it like they just
they don't even bring that up anymore. It's ridiculous because.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I can't know you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I probably get
in trouble for it. I don't know, but I'm just
telling you, maybe more Dan that I struggled with the kid,
because I think the kid was a self made not
a self made he was a product of the system
of Colorado and his dad. No, he might prove me wrong.
(14:12):
He may get in the leak something and light it
up and be like Lamar Jackson, who when he came
out I thought he was a one trick pony. But
to Lamar's credit, he has worked on his throwing, he
has worked on his reading of and he turned into
a Hall of Fame quarterback. Yeah, so it's a it's
a I don't know chev. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
The lines go to Cincinnati and everybody just assumes that
this is a done deal. This is I mean money
in the bank. They probably thought the same thing of
San Francisco going to Los Angeles before the Rams lost
in overtime twenty six, twenty three last night.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
What concerns you about the banks or getting more of
the Packers going to Cleveland?
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, we see it every week. What concerns you most
going to the Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
As a big receivership big receivers outside. I watched him
and bro is a very serviceable backup. I think he's
proven that he's not a starting quarterback in the league.
And I watched him the other night. But he can
make throwers. And they got those two dudes outside of
just they're gonna throw eight to ten faves or go
over hooks the game to them and hope they get
a catch or a call. And you know, and they
(15:16):
can hurt you. They can get behind you. And we're
you know, we're not real strong at the cover corners.
So I'm looking for If I'm Levin Shepherd, I'm one
of other stuff. I'm saying, Okay, we're gonna play. We're
gonna fa a lot of cover three, Cover four. We're
gonna have three guys deep, four eys deep. We're gonna
maybe show some man and we're gonna stem if they
want to catch that five yards, if they have the
patients catch that five we're gonna have to come up
(15:38):
and tackle. But we can't get them behind us for
the thirty forty yard chunk plays or forty yard pass
interference calls. We can't do that if we make them
work their way down the field. That offensive line is
not good enough and Brownie's not good enough that they
have the patients and the skill set to work their
way down the field. On ten twelve, yard plays where
they're throwing six, you know, five yard hooks trying to
(16:00):
get it down the field. So that's what I would do.
But that's just me. But they scared me. I mean
they're really good. T Higgins is really good. I think
they messed up paying all that money to two receivers
and a quarterback. I mean that's I mean, all the
rest of your team is. That's why they struggle. Isn't
that really good?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
It's always good to talk with you, my friend. Great stuff.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
I know it's been a challenging college football season so
far for you, but I know you're enjoying the line
as well.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
All the best.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Yeah, we'll talk, buddy.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Yeah, I love you, man, Yeah, love you too. Have
a great weekend, enjoy the games and we'll talk next week.
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
So I hurt my hip at the gym and ended
up at PHI Urgent Care. They really took care of me.
They referred me to one of their physios, and while
working on my core, the physio noticed I was walking
at it oddly, so she refers me to a vHIP
I had traced and he was able.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
To help me correct my gait, so yeah, it was.
It was really great how VH I was able to
connect on the dots.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
So I hurt my hip at the gym and ended
up at PHI Urgent Care. They really took care of me.
They referred me to one of their physios and while
working on my core, the physio noticed I was walking
a little oddly, so she refers me to a VHI
podiatrist and he.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Was able to help me correct my gait. So yeah,
it was really great how VHI was able to connect.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
All the dots.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Vhi, because your health means everything.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I just can't be out there, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Power me what a game going on, you know, because
like the player could come my way in you know,
I want to be in the right mindset, so you know,
I just.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Keep a cuting mind mother.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
On the field, I'm not worry about targets out more
worried about the Wayne.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
He's playing a good game, you know, who played a
good offense, good defense, opener, good team.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So you no, I'd rather focus on leaving the game
than you know, a game, a third kitch or something.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I love that attitude for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
It's a fantastic attitude displayed by Jamison Williams. I see
in his Lions teammates get ready to take on the
Bengals in Cincinnati this weekend. It is time for What's
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Speaker 4 (01:51):
Rubes.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
Good morning to you, my friend, hope all as well
when you hear about the news with Alee McNeil, who
is starting to practice and the clock is now on.
When you know that tyry On Arnold will be back
this weekend, even though people thought he would be lost.
There's a lot of positive things happening on the defensive
side and in the health department for Detroit. On top
(02:12):
of that, they're already a really good football team. What
do you gauge as the vibe around the Lions right
now with three and one head into Sincy.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Well, what I've also noticed, Shep is that Covid Shepherd
the DC is starting to figure this out a little
bit too. He's trying to figure out what type of
personnelity has on that back end and the secondary, and
he's starting to mix it a little bit more of
his own play. You're not trying to all man press
because he doesn't have the Darius Slaves of the world
that can just lock people down. So he has kind
of mixed it up a little bit more and I
(02:41):
think that's helped him. I mean, he's done more zone
over the last week or so, and it's a learning
process for him as well. But giving these bodies back,
I mean, I think Lee McNeil one is because she
last year we saw the great push he got in
the middle, and you and I we talked to Matthew
Stafford all the time prior to the games, and you know,
Gary Danis Hip or friends of mine. Any quarterback would
(03:02):
tell you they hate inside pressure way more than outside pressure.
Outside pressure you step up, you step under it, but
inside pressure is in your face. It's harder to see,
and what you're follow through, you're worry about hitting your
hand on helmets. So we get to lean back, things
will really really pick up at that defensive front. I believe.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
This is a team right now that leads the league
in scoring and they lead the league in sacks. Which
one is more surprising to you?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Oh, come on, that's the layup, that's the dog. Yeah,
it's the sacks. I mean, we know this team's going
to score. They got too many dudes on the off
at the side of the ball they got I was
telling someone they got seven or eight guys that could
leave here and start for pretty much every team in
the NFL. That's pretty rare that you have that many
guys on one side of the ball. Yeah, So it's
(03:49):
the sacks that has really been the surprise to me. Now,
some of it's, you know, play the Browns, who we
know are pretty poorous up front and they're going to
get it. But the the Baltimore won the seven they
got to get to Baltimore. That was just amazing. And
you know, Lamar counts for a few of them too,
because he does move out of the pockets. He doesn't
(04:10):
stay in the pocket. Maybe just throw the ball away.
He tries to make something happen, so you pick up
a couple bonus sacks that way. But they've had good pressure.
I mean they've collapsed the pocket evenly every game. They've
been consistent. So yeah, that's been a real shock to me.
But that's one of the reasons this defense is having
some success.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, I don't disagree with any of that. You brought
that up. With the offense and all the different weapons.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
I marvel at how they're able to keep everybody so
team oriented. What do you think the biggest challenge is
for coaches in general? I don't care if it's football,
I don't care if it's any other sport, but trying
to make sure everybody is still happy about winning and
competing instead.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Of their own personal stats.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
No, that was that a Jamo hit I heard coming on.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
It was Jamison Won coming about gap.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
He got paid, didn't he? He just recently realized him
they did.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, three years.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Happy when you're paid, it's not gonna lie, so he's
got so that kind of pacifies him. And he might
be one that I hate the stereotape, but just some
of his actions on and off the field, you might
come to believe that he might be one of those
selfish players. Although if you look at him, but he's
done on the field. Even before he got paid, he
was always blocking downfield. And that's just a tribute to
(05:26):
Dan and Camp one hundred percent. That's, you know, your
head coach. Sometimes it doesn't do a lot during the
game because he has an offense, cordinaer, defense cornator. He's
a he's a player manager, a clock manager, a game manager.
But during the week he obviously has impact on this
young man. He's got this young man to buy in
with like everyone else. You watch his locker rooms after
(05:46):
the game. His team is locked in on him. They
believe in him. They believe that if they follow him
that they're going to have success. And when you have
success as a team and you get to the pinnacle ship,
everyone gets paid. You know what I'm saying. It's a
thing where I can remember, even back in the day
before we had free agency, all the guys in San
Francisco they're getting paid more than everyone else. You know
(06:07):
why because they're winning Super Bowls. Yeah, and you do that.
It all comes back to you.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, and singing on Huey Lewis Records, Rob Rubig with
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On the Lindsay Uner Foundation guest Line. And he's brought
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(06:32):
throughout the country and go online and also find him
at Meyer as well. I think Taylor Decker is kind
of flying under the proverbial radar. I think he's so
much better than we give him credit for. When we
look at the Lions, you talked about all the different players,
you know, and I know who you're referring to, and
then when we think about the offensive line, we look
(06:53):
at Penney sool. What's impression most about Taylor Decker? A
guy who's been doing this a long time. You know
he's beat up, but he is still playing at a
very high level.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Okay, A couple of things, Chef. First, though, I know
your team me up because you know I've loved Taylor
Decker since they one. All the dude does is line
up and play. He's the Jeff Backus of the new
millennium here. He's a Jeff Backus I thought was underappreciated
for years with the Lions. All he did was line up,
start every week and protect. Give an occasional sack or pressure,
but for the most part did his job. I mean,
(07:26):
was a good player for many, many years. That's Taylor Decker.
Tonay Sewell gets a lot of the hype and the
love because he's more versatile. He's better in space. You know,
he's a good guy as a tackle to highlight, because
he can run. He gets out where Decker is more
of a like a pocket passer is a tackle. He's
going to be there. He's gonna do a good job
in pass pro. He fights, he scraps, he run blocks.
(07:48):
He is a guy that every other team in the
NFL would love to have. I'm telling you, he's one
of the guys I was talking about when I said
there's seven or eight guys, I mean, he's one of them.
He's been a really a borderline All Pro player for
his career, and he's played a lot and he's played hurt.
And that's what I don't see a lot anymore nowadays.
They say that guys get hurt, nicked and they sit out.
(08:10):
I know they're protecting the money, these owners are and
the coasters are. But man, Taylor Decker, I love him.
I just think he's had a wonderful career and he
you know, he's like right now. He's played hurt for
a lot of years. And Frank gave us quality play
week after week. And Sheep, I like about you, Bud.
You've always been an O line guy. Oh yeah, I
(08:31):
mean I mean when this draft time you're going up
and down the line, you could put the receivers, the
tight ends, the quarterbacks, they can go in the next
room because you're looking at the guards and the tackles
and the centers every year because you understand, you understand football,
and that's why this Lions team has been good. This offense.
They got weapons, but if you can't get at your weapons,
you can't protect. And look at the Bengals, I mean
they had great weapons too, but they could protect them,
(08:53):
you know, beating up your quarterback.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Well, I would advise everyone to follow Auburn a little
bit more of the year. Connor low, the center for Auburn,
is really good. He's really good, and it might be
he might really look good in a in a Lion's
uniform as well. Taylor deckro a big reason why Jared
Goff has the thirteenth lowest rate AM on quarterbacks and
be impression in dropbacks. So I give him a ton
(09:17):
of credit. I love what this team is doing. We
had a conversation earlier today about Aman Ross Saint Brown.
I want to know from you how good you think
he is, and what does he do best and who
does he remind you most of?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Well, I hate to do this, but he reminds me
a little bit of a Steve Largent. He reminds me
a little bit of a Julian Edelman. He is don't
don't play Julian Edelman. Everyone will give Tom Brady, but
Julian Edelman was a great space guy. He could in
small spaces. He had a way of getting open. He
has a great feel for the game. He a grabber
(09:56):
of the football and he's good after the catch. And
Steve Largent the same way. Now he was in an
era when they didn't throw it seventy percent of the time,
which excuse all these stats that we're seeing. You know,
they're talking about Puku Naku or whatever he had fifty
catch Well, yeah, they throw it, you know, forty fifty
times a game, right, right, So anyways, but he just
(10:17):
the stat they throughout their chep and I know you
saw it was how many catches he had for first downs. Yeah,
it was the most. I mean more than Jamar Chase,
more than Jefferson, more than any of those dudes. And
to me, that is important. That is what keeps drives going.
That's what puts points on the board. And he's great
in the red zone. You know, those are a couple
(10:38):
of guys he reminds me of. You know, he doesn't
take the top off. When's the last time he's had
a fifty yard play?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, I mean I agree with last year.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I can remember.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yes, that's why I don't know, Larry Fitzgerald, be careful there.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I like Brown who stretched a little bit more.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yeah, you loved Antonio Brown in college. You said that
dude's going to be a pro when you and I
were calling Eastern together and he was at Central Michigan.
He's probably got more speed than I'm on Ross saying Brown,
I likened him to him a little bit. Somebody liking
him to Heinz Ward. What are your thoughts on the
comparison with Heinz wh.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I think he's I think he's better than Hines Ward. Okay,
I do. I think Aman Rojers has something about him,
is such an unbelievable feel he can catch the ball.
Heinsmore was a really good player. Don't get me wrong.
I would not trade him for Amara, saying bro, he
he is trending, Chef. I'm telling you the numbers he's
putting up. You know what I'm saying. We're the same
trending now. This was our game back in the day. Yeah, yeah, trending. Now.
(11:32):
He's got to do three four more years of this,
but who knows.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah, and he can do it for sure.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
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Sanders did a mime as a vote is believed to
be a mock of what Rex Ryan said about him
(11:59):
and his unwillingness to concentrate and be professional. How do
you think players? In his own locker room, he was
asked the question about Dylan Gabriel being the starter instead
of Joe Flacco and how Sanders is still third on
the depth chart, and he just mined his response, there's
no audio there, just mind it. What do you think
players look at when they see a guy like that
(12:21):
acting so immaturely?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Well, I'll tell you this. I just told this story
last night, and this is how impressions can stick with you.
When I was with the Lions in eighty nine, the
year we drafted Barry, we've down in Florida. It was
eighty eight. Maybe I don't know one of the two,
but anyways, Pat Carter was a tight end. We had
drafted from Florida State, and we're at our mini camp
in Florida, and I can remember Deonn Sanders, who was
(12:45):
still in college, came to our practice and afterwards, you know,
Pat was talking to him and he had the gold
chains and everything draped all over him, and I saw
to got he made us feel like he was looking
down at us. And you know what, Deon Sanders probably
one of the greatest corners ever, good man, probably good Christian.
I don't care. I've never liked him because the impression
(13:07):
he gave me there at that one time I saw him,
which is, you know, I'm probably wrong by doing this,
but he just gave me an impression that he was
above everything. And that's the impression you got when you
look at the draft parties and stuff that they were
having with Shadora Sanders and all this stuff and all,
and then it didn't happen. I just I just had
that bad taste. And some of it's not from him.
(13:28):
It's not his fault. Maybe comes from his father, who
you know, he's put him in the Hall of Fame
at Colorado. Yeah, what what I mean? Come on, He
coached his son, he highlighted.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
His son, and people don't see it. That's my bigger problem.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
My problem is people don't see it like they just
they don't even bring that up anymore. It's ridiculous because.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I can't know you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I probably get
in trouble for it. I don't know, but I'm just
telling you, maybe more Dan that I struggled with the kid,
because I think the kid was a self made not
a self made he was a product of the system
of Colorado and his dad. No, he might prove me wrong.
(14:12):
He may get in the leak something and light it
up and be like Lamar Jackson, who when he came
out I thought he was a one trick pony. But
to Lamar's credit, he has worked on his throwing, he
has worked on his reading of and he turned into
a Hall of Fame quarterback. Yeah, so it's a it's
a I don't know chev. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
The lines go to Cincinnati and everybody just assumes that
this is a done deal. This is I mean money
in the bank. They probably thought the same thing of
San Francisco going to Los Angeles before the Rams lost
in overtime twenty six, twenty three last night.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
What concerns you about the banks or getting more of
the Packers going to Cleveland?
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, we see it every week. What concerns you most
going to the Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
As a big receivership big receivers outside. I watched him
and bro is a very serviceable backup. I think he's
proven that he's not a starting quarterback in the league.
And I watched him the other night. But he can
make throwers. And they got those two dudes outside of
just they're gonna throw eight to ten faves or go
over hooks the game to them and hope they get
a catch or a call. And you know, and they
(15:16):
can hurt you. They can get behind you. And we're
you know, we're not real strong at the cover corners.
So I'm looking for If I'm Levin Shepherd, I'm one
of other stuff. I'm saying, Okay, we're gonna play. We're
gonna fa a lot of cover three, Cover four. We're
gonna have three guys deep, four eys deep. We're gonna
maybe show some man and we're gonna stem if they
want to catch that five yards, if they have the
patients catch that five we're gonna have to come up
(15:38):
and tackle. But we can't get them behind us for
the thirty forty yard chunk plays or forty yard pass
interference calls. We can't do that if we make them
work their way down the field. That offensive line is
not good enough and Brownie's not good enough that they
have the patients and the skill set to work their
way down the field. On ten twelve, yard plays where
they're throwing six, you know, five yard hooks trying to
(16:00):
get it down the field. So that's what I would do.
But that's just me. But they scared me. I mean
they're really good. T Higgins is really good. I think
they messed up paying all that money to two receivers
and a quarterback. I mean that's I mean, all the
rest of your team is. That's why they struggle. Isn't
that really good?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
It's always good to talk with you, my friend. Great stuff.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
I know it's been a challenging college football season so
far for you, but I know you're enjoying the line
as well.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
All the best.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Yeah, we'll talk, buddy.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Yeah, I love you, man, Yeah, love you too. Have
a great weekend, enjoy the games and we'll talk next week.
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