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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The way to measure a lot of players is to
measure them against.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Maybe some all time greats, but how about the players
that they currently play against.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Everybody knows in.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Detroit the Terrek Skoobel is the best at what he
does on this team. Doesn't mean I think he's the
best player, but it's the best of what he does.
He is a pitcher. Is better than Spencer trkolsen is
as a power hitter. He is a pitcher. Is better
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than Dylan Dingler is as a catcher.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
He is a pitcher.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Is better than Riley Green as a left fielder. But
Riley Green as a left fielder, I think you could argue,
and I would argue, is the best left fielder in baseball.
He's going to be an All Star. Only Aaron Judge,
as of right now, has more All Star votes as
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an outfielder. Aaron Judge's number one, Riley Green is number two,
Javier Bayez is number three. So kudos to Tigers fans
for out there voting. Labor Torres is going to be
in its second base if it ended right now. Dylan
Dingler is third in catching, cal Raley should be. I
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mean he hit his thirty second Homer of the Year
last night. Most home runs before the All Star Break
in Seattle history is Ken Griffey Junior, not once, but twice,
thirty five, thirty three. Roley's got thirty two the next one. Obviously,
you can do the math ties Ken Griffey Junior for
second most in team history. That's pretty impressive if you're
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in the same conversation as Ken Griffey Junior, a Hall
of Famer and one of the best center fielders of
all time.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
That's pretty damn good.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
But I digress.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Riley Green. I think people.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You know where he was drafted out of high school,
didn't know anything about him until he got to the organization,
followed him a little bit, thought he was rushed to
come up here. Took a couple of years to kind
of get his footing. Last year found his home run
stroke with a career high twenty four. Has seven excuse me,
seventeen already. That's pretty damn good. It's not rileygh it's
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not Aaron Judge stuff like that, but that's pretty damn good.
Riley Green is second among all left fielders in batting average.
Only Stephen Kwan has a better batting average among left fielders.
No left fielder has more doubles than Riley Green's twenty.
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He had a couple of the other day against Tampa
that gives him twenty. He has the most among all
left fielders. You're always hoping for the power to come.
Baseball people will tell you the power is the last
thing to come for hitters at the major league level.
So when a guy burst on to the scene with
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a lot of home runs, it's surprising, and then you
wonder if he can keep it up because if they're
going to pitch him, and so on and so forth.
But Riley Green's power finally came last year with a
career high twenty four, and he has carried that over
into this season. He had five his rookie year, he
had eleven. The next year, he had twenty four last
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year already seventeen this year. Only Kyle Schwarber James Woods,
who people in Washington would argue is the best left fielder,
and considering his offensive numbers, you could make that case
without a doubt. And Taylor Ward have more homers than
Riley Green. Riley Green is number two in total bases
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among left fielders. Only James Woods of Washington has more
one hundred and seventy. Green has one hundred and fifty
seven total basis. Unfortunately, he's also number one in strikeouts.
No leftfield has struck out more than Riley Green. But
remember that was a lot of those, not all of them,
but a lot of those were during a tough one
for thirty two stretch in which he struck out nineteen times.
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He has number three in the American League among left
fielders and on base percentage. Only Stephen Kwan and Randio
rose Arena are better at getting on base than Riley Green.
He is number four, number one in the American League,
but number four in all of Major League Baseball among
left fielders in slugging. What did I say before the season,
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This team needs guys with power. Their top ten in
Major League Baseball in slugging a huge reason why this
team is where they are. And talk about the pitching
all you want. You can talk about the bullpen all
you want. The power that this team now puts on
a regular basis in display, night in and night out,
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for the most part is a re and I think
the primary reason they are where they are. Riley Green
is number one in the American League, Number three overall
in on base plus slugging. That's one of the most
important statistics that now. Analytics has taken over major League baseball.
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It's really taken over sports. A lot of people hate it.
I understand it. I hate it too to a certain extent.
It's interesting with analytics. I mean, do you buy into
that in baseball basketball the big reason why so many
people are shooting threes and a lot of people don't
like it. A lot of fans do not like it. Analytics.
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I had lunch yesterday with a couple of guys who
played in the NBA, and they said the same thing.
It's hard to watch because of the analytics. And it's
getting worse because kids are watching this stuff, and kids
are literally doing what the NBA is doing.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It's like, wait a minute, who's coaching here anyway?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And then Riley Green, if you believe in winds above replacement,
war Riley Green is number four among all left fielders
in wins above replacement.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
He is a star. Why don't we recognize him like that?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Is it because he's overshadowed by Trek Skuebel? It's because
is it because he's not flashy? Remember fielding Bible? I
last year by Riley Green in left field.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Help me out with this.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Meyer hotline is eight six six eight three eight forty
eight forty three. Why don't we see it? This is
the best team in baseball. They have the largest lead
of any division leader. I mentioned the power numbers that
this team has, and that is.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
In not just.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Ops, it's slug it's homers, it's ops plus. They are
top ten in all of that. Okay, that screams success.
The fielding is a given. You and I have talked
about that before. No question that he's the best left
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fielder or one of the best left fielder Stephen Kwan
people in Cleveland. Two time gold Glove the last two years.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So probably unfair to say the best, but he's one
of the best left fielders in all of baseball. So
the power is there, The batting average is there, as
I've told you that he's second in that category. The
defense is there.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
What is it? Oh? I know he runs weird? Okay,
So what.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I had buddies at my golf out and say that,
because we were having this conversation, he runs weird.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
What difference does it make? As long as he gets
a to B.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
When you're playing golf and you're on a par three
and your buddy hits an eight iron but doesn't get
it to the green, and you hit a six iron
and you're on the green. Doesn't matter which club as
long as Riley Green gets to the ball, and he does.
That's why he won Sports Information Solutions Fielding Bible last year.
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That's why he was in the conversation for gold Glove.
He gets the ball. You saw him playing center field
years ago before Parker Meadows came up right. I sure
hope he recognized how good he was at getting jumps
on the baseball, reading bad angles, reading launch angles, anticipating
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where it may be in preparing for games. He's not
going to lead the league in stolen bases. He won't
lead his team in stolen bases. I don't care. He
hits for average, he hits with power. He's excellent defensively.
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He doesn't have a great arm. I'm not comparing him
to Dave Parker or Jesse Barfield. I'm okay with where
he sets up the accuracy of his arm and the
plays he makes in left field. If you want to
build a player in a lab, then Riley Green is
probably not your guy because of the not a great
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arm and left and doesn't steal bases like leu Brock.
But then find me the player you want to him
to model his game after, or you wish you had
in left field because guess what, Stephen Kwan's a really
nice player, but Stephen Kwan doesn't it with power. James
Woods is a really nice player, he's not a great
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defensive player.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Randy A.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Rosarina is a nice player, but he's basically past his prime.
That might be a little much, but he's not as
overall talented as as Riley Green. Kyle Schwarber is a
really good power hitter. He stinks defensively and he strikes
out a lot too. By the way, Taylor Ward No
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doesn't bring to the table what Riley Green does in
overall value. The dude's a star man. Now we can
debate whether or not superstar status belongs in the conversation.
I don't think it does, but I think that's reserved
for the very few. Sure, maybe you want the equivalent
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in left field to what the Yankees have in right
or sometimes play center, and that's Aaron Judge. I understand
that Mashes Homers Ops is off the chain and ridiculous
has a howitzer for an arm. Is a good right
fielder right struck out one hundred and seventy one times
last year. If you're bitching about Riley Green's strikeouts earlier
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this year and then he's got ninety nine this year,
that leads all left fielders, you better be prepared to
answer the questions about Aaron Judge and his swing and miss.
We've kind of accepted it in today's sports or today's baseball,
the swing and miss.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It's almost like shooting a basketball.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
We've kind of accepted the he's going to launch for three,
he's struggling, he's one for nine.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Let him keep shooting. He'll shoot his way out of it.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yet, it's fun to have a guy as a position
player who is an everyday player and who is the
best at what he does in all of baseball. I'm
not saying he's the best stoutfielder. Say he's the best
left fielder. That's who I'm comparing him to. He's going
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to be an All Star for a second straight year.
We worry about extending Terrek's scubel. I think there's a
discussion that needs to be had about extending Riley Green,
we haven't talked about it. Nobody has talked about it,
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always written about it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You know why, because.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
They're so wrapped up in Terrek's Scuoble. It's not Terrek
Scubel's fault. Okay, Derek Scooble is going to be up
before Riley Green. It's just you wonder why people aren't
acknowledging it or recognizing it. I'm not trying to convince
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you that I'm a lone wolf here, that I'm a trailblazer.
I'm sure people have thought about it, but there isn't
a lot of discussion about this issue, about this topic,
and I think there should be. I think the guy
should have a sea on his jersey. I don't know
if they do that with the Tigers. I can't recall
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anybody wearing the sea on their jersey. But he is
the Tigers. He is their leader. I know you want
to believe it's Terek Schuoble because he's a dominant player.
I just told you during the update, dude hasn't lost
since April second for crying out loud. He's considered the
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best at what he does, whether you're left handed or
right handed. He's considered the best by most people in Pittsburgh.
Can make a strong argument for Paul Skeins without a doubt,
but Riley Green's pretty damn close to being the best
at his position too. Left field not outfield. Meyer hotline
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is eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three.
The text line is sports Radio twenty one thousand. Maybe
there's somebody out there who feels like I was never convinced,
and he still hasn't convinced me. I've been in that situation.
Takes a lot for you to to make that leap,
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takes a lot for you to go you know what,
I get it now. It's hard for people to do
that because we want we have a first impression, and
perhaps your first impression was he gets hurt, which I
think is is kind of funny. Conversation last night, talking
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about the ways that the Pistons can get better. I
bring up a certain individual. The comment back was, yeah,
he's injury prone. Dude's played at least sixty one games
in every year or he's been in the league.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
How many is enough.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm not saying he's gonna play eighty two, but he's
been pretty damn reliable. When you play as many games
as these guys play, when you have as many opportunities
to get hurt.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Your bound to get hurt.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Judge has been hurt, Trout has been hurt, A rose
O Rain has been hurt. It's going to happen. But
for Riley Green, because it was early in his career,
ninety three games in twenty twenty two, ninety nine games
in twenty twenty three, Not until last year when we
played one hundred and thirty seven did people really feel
like it was a quote unquote full season. Everybody's gonna
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have a tweak here or there. I hope we recognize that.
We don't think that about Trek Scouble though. Do we
even though he's missed time because of Tommy John surgery,
do we automatically think that he's injury prone? Probably not,
because that's accepted these days in baseball, the acceptance of
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Tommy John surgery for just about everybody, Walker Buehler who
pitched last night and got pounded, or Trek Schoogel. But
I think that was how people viewed him. Well, he
gets hurt if he can stay healthy, because two years
he has been hurt. One was in spring training. How
about the fact that he came back You realize, you know,
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he's not the only player to experience this type of situation.
But because he's ours, because he was a high draft pick,
and because it happened early in his career, that's the
label given. I hope that's not the case. I hope,
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and I would. I can understand why some people feel
that way when it happens the first couple of years.
But how about what he did a year ago? How
about what he's done so far this year? While we
hung up on the past and hung up on the
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negative side of things,